NFL Divisional Playoffs (Saturday): Game Threads
by Chris Pokorny on Jan 15, 2011 3:04 PM EST
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PrintThere are two games taking place today for Saturday's NFL Divisional Playoffs. Cleveland Browns fans can use this game thread to discuss the games as they are taking place, and I'm sure the Ravens-Steelers game will be of particular interest. I encourage you to head over to the respective team sites to see some of the articles they have been posting as well.
Baltimore Ravens vs. Pittsburgh Steelers
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Game: Baltimore Ravens vs. Pittsburgh Steelers
Date/Time: Saturday, January 15, 2010 at 4:30 p.m. EST
Local Television: WOIO/CBS, Channel 19 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Greg Gumbel & Dan Dierdorf
One team has to win, period. The Ravens are coming off of a dominant victory over the Chiefs last week, but the Steelers are fresh off of their first-round bye. The theme of this game is whether or not Joe Flacco can pick apart the dangerous defense he is up against. I appreciate the talent that Troy Polamalu has, and there is no denying that he is a difference maker. His strip/sack against Flacco in their last meeting proved to be the difference. I'll go with Pittsburgh again. My Pick: Steelers win 17-14.
Green Bay Packers vs. Atlanta Falcons
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Game: Green Bay Packers vs. Atlanta Falcons
Date/Time: Saturday, January 15, 2010 at 8:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WJW/FOX, Channel 8 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Joe Buck & Troy Aikman
Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers seems unstoppable in postseason play. The Packers could be struggling, but then at a whim he will hit a receiver in stride on a bullet for a 70-yard touchdown. Green Bay's running game got going last week, but I think it would be a mistake for them to think they can run well against Atlanta. The Packers' strength is still their passing game, and if they beat Atlanta, they'll have to do it through the air. The Falcons have been outstanding this season and have been flying somewhat under-the-radar. When I look back at all of the games they have played this season, it seems like every game has had a close, postseason feel to it. They are ready to take the next step forward. My Pick: Falcons win 27-21.
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I’m rooting for the comet in the first game.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 15, 2011 3:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
C’mon meteor!
Your friendly neighborhood Mangini apologist.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 15, 2011 3:40 PM EST reply actions
Shit. I said the wrong celestial body.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 15, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ditto!
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 15, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t help but root for the Seahawks. I hate their coach, but I like an underdog.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Picking the lesser of two evils. Go old Browns.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 4:15 PM EST reply actions
Are they really the lesser of the two evils though? I mean I might hate that team more than i hate pittsburgh at this point. They absconded from our city with our team and now they have hijacked our identity as a smashmouth arch-rival for the steelers.
"Smokescreen."
I’d rather have the ravens win because they aren’t as dirty as Pitt.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
They didn’t hijack our identity. . . we gave it up, through our decade plus of ineptitude. Time to stop blaming the Ravens organization for our woes. Plus, the Steelers fans are 10x more obnoxious than any other fanbase in the NFL (excepting maybe the Patriots’).
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
You’re allowed to be obnoxious when your team is winning all the time.
And I’ll go right on blaming the ravens because they are a constant reminder of what Browns fans could and should have had for the last decade if Art Modell wasn’t such a greedy asshole.
"Smokescreen."
Are you actually defending Steelers fans? Can’t believe I’m hearing this.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I submit that the Ravens’ success over the past decade probably wouldn’t have happened if not for Steve Bisciotti, a Baltimore businessman. So you can’t just say that if that organization had stayed in Cleveland, the results would have been the same.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think you both need to stop and realize how much you’re both defending the two most evil entities in the universe to each other.
"Quote goes here."
by Adrock2099 on Jan 15, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Head says Squeelers; gut says Traitors.
Should be a great game. Somebody’s got to lose!
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 15, 2011 4:25 PM EST reply actions
!@#$ both these teams.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Jan 15, 2011 4:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
oh my god these announcers are awful. that was offensive interference. it was an awful call.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I think they are showing some steeler bias. not a lot, but it’s there. Before someone throws a fit, I am being objective here, I hate both teams.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Pass interference rules need to be changed. It needs to get called on the offense more, and it needs to stop being a spot of the foul penalty.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I like how it’s 15 yards in college.
I think one college football rule that should change is you’re down even if you weren’t touched.
I like how it’s 15 yards in college.
That’s not the right way either.
It makes for smart “on purpose penalties” if you get beat you can just try to intentionally interfere to avoid big plays and settle with only 15 yards instead of a TD or 40 yard gain.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I still don’t like spot of the foul. It’s the only penalty that works that way. Illegal contact or defensive holding have the same effect, but neither are spot of the foul. It doesn’t make sense to do interference differently.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
I’m fine with it being a spot foul, I just think the refs suck at calling it. I suppose, the league should accept that their garbage officials suck at their job, and thus take the least destructive path with is making it a 15 yard penalty.
Ideally, refs would just call it fairly, and the spot foul is fine, but that isn’t happening.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I just think it seems arbitrary to have interference be a spot foul, but not defensive holding or illegal contact, which are basically the same as interference, just before the ball is in the air.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Joe Flacco doesn’t look very good right now.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
You’ve got a point, he hasn’t thrown a pick yet.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
HA! Ray Rice just ran over Troy Polamalu. That’s what happens when you just dive at people instead of tackling.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Gotta wrap ’em up Troy!
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 15, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a fumble! TD ravens.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Replay looks inconclusive. Play should stand as called.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 15, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I am for any NFC team that will beat either of these teams in the SB.
by kingcrimson2 on Jan 15, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
I still hate Clay Matthews. Almost to the point that I’m nearly rooting for the Falcons. But I like Rodgers too.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Yeah we heard about your feeling about CM Jr. and Casey in last week’s thread.Let’s leave it there.
by kingcrimson2 on Jan 15, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Rodgers is my favorite QB in the league besides Colt. I love how Rodgers proved that he could be just as good as Favre if not better. I remember so many ESPN people saying Rodgers could never replace Favre.
Exactly.
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 15, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
1. Colt McCoy
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Drew Brees
That’s my top 3. Matt Ryan would probably be the 4th or 5th.
Colt McCoy
Peyton Manning
Matt Hasselbeck
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Colt McCoy
Mike Vick
Aaron Rodgers
Those are really the only QBs I actually like.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Tom Brady is great, but he’s such a tool bag that he’s instantly unlikeable.
I love this little gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqErnhihQFQ&feature=related
You scored 14 and lost, you jackass.
HA!
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I would love for a play making impact LB that we can anchor our defense on.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Owen Merecic
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 15, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a freakin nut case. Take him!
Suppose everyone thought the same way you do.
by YossarianLives_InCleveland on Jan 16, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Not if he stabbed Ben.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
you think he wanted to play in cleveland?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
well there you go then.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
I moe, I moe. They signed him for such little $ imo. Not that I am the hugest TJH fan but damn we need WRs.
by kingcrimson2 on Jan 15, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
He thinks he’s a lot better than he is.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Valid point, but I don’t think TJHoush is the answer, he’d only be another 2nd/3rd string receiver…
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I don’t see him as an upgrade over Stuckey or MoMass.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
I hate all of the celebrating whenever someone makes any kind of play.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
you don’t need to do a stupid dance every time you make a tackle. you’re a defensive player in the nfl, that’s your job.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it’s funny that the announcers said Polamalu barely ever misses tackles. He sucks at tackling. Great at pass defense, but man does he miss a lot of tackles.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
How did one of the most inept officiating crews in the NFL get a playoff game? I thought they used a ratings syste to determine the crews for playoff games?
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
Dude, CBS has the worst shows.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 5:51 PM EST reply actions
How is Pitt out of challenges, but still have two timeouts?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
seriously, what is going on?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
May have been a mistake by the announcers – they are almost as bad as the Refs.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
they had it up on their graphic the whole time.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
You get two challenges per game. If both of those challenges go your way (the call is overturned), you get a third. If one of them fails, that’s it.
Pitt used a challenge on the opening kickoff and the fumble. One was successful, the second was not. The announcers are correct.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 15, 2011 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I missed the first one, and thought they lost it.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Steelers forgot how to tackle today. That and turnovers have been the difference. Boy does Ben look shaky.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 15, 2011 6:20 PM EST reply actions
Wish they were playing a better QB. Never thought Flacco was anything special. He’s just a younger version of Dilfer for them but they think he’s the best ever.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
I think he’s better than Dilfer, but he’s certainly nothing special.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
His receivers really let him down today. Where was Boldin all game? Saw him drop one in the end zone and don’t remember hearing his name besides that play.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 15, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not even good in the regular season Em.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 15, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
A talented team with asshole fans vs another talented team with asshole players.
Fudge ’em both, but may the Steelers lose.
Adam Foote still blows!
To me the difference is Worthlessberger is a total scumball while Flacco is not. I give Ray Ray a lesser scuzball rating because he is a LB
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
That is the worst holding call I’ve ever seen.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
That is the same ref that threw the flag in our OL eye and ended his career. He is also is the guy that screwed up the OT because he called the flip of the coin the wrong way. If you can screw up a coin flip – you never know what he will do.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
Actually it didn’t end Orlando Brown’s career, we cut him and he got signed by Baltimore.
Your friendly neighborhood Mangini apologist.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 15, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Eagles fired defensive coordinator Sean McDermott.
Speculation is that Dick Jauron will be promoted to defensive coordinator in order to get him to stay in Philly instead of coming to Cleveland.
You know, I might prefer McDermott anyways.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Shit. The three AFC teams I hate the most are the only ones left.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 8:01 PM EST reply actions
you hate the Patriots and Jets more than the Ravens?
I don’t like either of them but I HATE the Ravens (and the Steelers)
I hate all four, go Seahawks.
Your friendly neighborhood Mangini apologist.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 15, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely I do. I base my hatred more on the current state of teams and their fanbases than anything else. Don’t get too jazzed about historical rivalries.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Where’s a meteor when you need it?
Your friendly neighborhood Mangini apologist.
by North Coast Flea on Jan 15, 2011 8:03 PM EST reply actions
F’ing astronomy always letting us down.
by kingcrimson2 on Jan 15, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
It’s something like 1/400000 that it hits.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 15, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
That’s it, we should fire the meteorite head coach.
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 15, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Man, that’s a long time to wait for the playoffs. This rooting for the meteorite strike business is a real labor of love.
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 15, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
seriously, could he care any less about his (cake/well paid/sweet) job?
by kingcrimson2 on Jan 15, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Every time I say Clay Mathews play I think he should be with the Browns.
Mack is great but Mathews has browns blood in him.
Welcome Joe!
Go Seneca!
We should look hard at Casey too.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 15, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yes – bout time the Packers D started making some noise.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 15, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions
“What he’ll is going on out there!”
Life moves pretty fast. If don't stop and look around once in a while you could miss it. - Ferris Bueller
*hell – hate the iPad auto correct. But at least when I type in therapist it changes it to ‘the rapist Ben.’
Life moves pretty fast. If don't stop and look around once in a while you could miss it. - Ferris Bueller
by Kosar19 on Jan 15, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
NO FREAKING WAY
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
dear god the cavs are awful.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I really haven’t watched many non-Browns games until the playoffs, and the thing that sticks out to me is how much better every teams WRs our than ours.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1798296921078&set=a.1591659915282.76950.1349401928
Life moves pretty fast. If don't stop and look around once in a while you could miss it. - Ferris Bueller
Remember that one time Brandon MacDonald had that like 97 yard INT return and he didn’t score a touchdown because the half was over? NFL record. I was reminded of that at the end of the half.
We should have put him at WR
Welcome Joe!
Go Seneca!
by LondonBrown on Jan 15, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
…No, I don’t.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 15, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Why can’t the browns have a QB as good as Rogers:(
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Jan 15, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions
Pretty sure every fanbase aside from NE, IND, and maybe PIT is thinking the same thing right now.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 15, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure I’d rul out IND or PIT either. Next to Brady, Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL IMO.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 16, 2011 7:11 AM EST up reply actions
Rodgers is more athletic that Brady but both are truly gifted. Would be great to see them go head to head in the Superbowl. Hope that happens this year.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 16, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
What?
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 15, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I still can’t believe with all the bad plays of the Baltimore offense the Steelers still needed help from the refs to win. What a bunch of nonsense. Why bother watching or caring about football if every year it’s the same thing. Let’s rise up and have these people investigated and striped of every single dirty trophy.
Watching the Ravens/Steelers game, there were so many fouls that were not called it was pathetic.
Now it probably ended up evening out in the end, but what I realized is both those teams get away with borderline/dirty plays all the time. If the Browns (or other teams for that matter) did any of that borderline stuff there would certainly be flags thrown. Disgusting.
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