2011 Schedule

by notthatnoise on Jan 3, 2011 11:47 AM EST

Here it is, folks, the list of teams we'll be playing in 2011. Keep in mind these are in no particular order, as the full schedule won't be out for a couple months I believe.

Obviously a lot can and will change between now and next season, and some of these teams will be surprisingly good or bad, but I see a lot of winnable games here. One game that may be a little under-the-radar that I'm excited about is St. Louis. I'm excited for the possibility of McCoy and Bradford going head-to-head.

Home:

Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati
Jacksonville
St. Louis
Seattle
Tennessee
Miami

Away:

Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati
Arizona
Houston
Indianapolis
San Fransisco
Oakland

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This may all change if there is an 18 game season, which the owners are pushing super-hard for.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 3, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions

hopefully, that’s not likely to happen, particularly not next year.

by discoinferno083 on Jan 3, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions

Owners are making it sound like it is a must. They want 18 games and a rookie pay scale.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 4, 2011 2:34 AM EST up reply actions

What is interesting is that almost everyone I talk to or listen to thinks 18 games is a real, real bad idea (including me). Everyone seems to get it except the owners.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 4, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions

that’s because it’s only a good idea for the owners.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 4, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions

For the fans, it makes sense superficially — more games! (which I agree is exciting) — but it’s one area where it seems most fans get why it is a bad idea for more complicated reasons.

It is a horrific idea for the players by the way, for so many reasons. I almost feel like the owners are using it as a bargaining chip, knowing that they will never get it (and probably don’t even really want it), to get other concessions like a rookie salary cap.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 4, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions

the thing about the rookie cap is that it’s good for veterans, so they should be able to drum up at least a little support in the union for that.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 4, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t claim to be an expert on this at all, but the stuff I have read on the topic says that a rookie cap would be bad for vets — high rookie salaries drive up salaries for vets. So, a guy like Peyton Manning sees Bradford getting $50 million guaranteed can then go to management and say if Bradford is getting $50 million, I deserve XXXX.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 4, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions

On the flip side of the coin, the millions of dollars that is being tossed around to rookies would go to other veterans.

Peyton Manning is going to get his money no matter what, but to the Josh Cribbs and Alex Mack’s, there should be more money to go around.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 4, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly, the extra that is produced my not giving it to rookies can be spread amongst the vets. Win-Win situation, unless you are a rookie. Then it kind of sucks.

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by Kimble_79 on Jan 5, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions

*by not my…damn it

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Jan 5, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions

These are the things they have to work around. Owners want to pay less to rookies and make it mean paying less to everyone. Players want more to the veterans and guys who have proven themselves.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 9, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions

As other people are saying, it may have a negative affect on superstars, but for the vast majority of veterans, the guys like Fujita or Watson or even a guy like Bowens, it drives up salary. Teams are still going to spend to the cap, so that money is going somewhere.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 5, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions

yeah, it sounds like it’d be good for the rank-and-file veterans (and possibly retired players?), while the superstars are pretty immune to anything bad, money-wise.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 5, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions

Retired players deserve a crap-ton more money.

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by rufio on Jan 9, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions

Also

Except Ponzi schemes

Heyo!

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by rufio on Jan 9, 2011 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

ZING!!!!

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 9, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions

I’ll always rec an Elway insult.

by Dawg Nuts on Jan 12, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions

Hey – last time I posted an Elway pic I was almost banned.
(re: unpalatable suggestions for B19K’s new avatar on the bet…)

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by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 13, 2011 8:49 AM EST up reply actions

I’m excited for the possibility of McCoy and Bradford going head-to-head

Nice observation. Make that two of us (surprise).
I watched Bradford at Oklahoma and always thought he had HUGE potential at the next level – still do.
A ‘rematch’ with Bradford would certainly be a treat for this Longhorns fan.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 3, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions

Based on this year’s performance of those teams I’d say that is the easiest schedule I’ve seen for the Browns. Having to play our own division rivals and the Colts are the toughest games. If the Browns can build on some of what was accomplished this year, we should have a better outcome based upon schedule alone.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Jan 4, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions

Bay Area Browns fans should be happy with the team playing two games there, in Oakland and San Francisco.

I was actually at the Browns’ last game in San Francisco, a 13-12 victory in 2003. I remember the fans there being very friendly to me and my friend even though we were Browns fans. That was actually the weekend after I went on a first date with the woman who is now my wife — hard to believe that was 8 years ago.

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 4, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

I was at that game in Frisco. Sat in the sun. Hot as hell.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 5, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions

that game in Frisco. Sat in the sun. Hot as hell

This made me and Colt laugh.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 6, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

There was nothing funny about it. My Niner buddies and I sat first row in the east endzone behind the uprights. The sun was directly in our eyes and we could barely see the game. Getting burned, sweating like crazy, couldn’t see… we left right before half time.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 7, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions

Too bad – sounds pretty unpleasant. Sorry you got unlucky with your seating.

Sorry to rib you about the ‘hot as hell’ comment… can’t resist sometimes after living in South Texas for over 20 years. Crazy frigging hot down there, unbearable for about 6 months out of the year. Finally had to move away from Texas, as much as I love Austin.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 7, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah, it gets pretty fricking hot down here by the boarder. I just moved from the CA desert to the cool breeze of the ocean. No more 110 summers for me.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 7, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions

rec

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 9, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions

(for “and Colt”)

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 9, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions

Am pretty sure I was at that game as well.

by talonk on Jan 5, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions

DBN representing at a Niner game. I love it.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 5, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions

pulling the NFC West is awesome for the browns, and hard earned after this year’s gauntlet. turns out the AFC South is pretty soft in the middle, too … this could set up nicely for the new coach.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 5, 2011 9:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

I predict 3 AFCN teams in the playoffs next year.

by StuckInPa on Jan 6, 2011 2:34 AM EST reply actions

That’s ballsier than my Robo prediction.

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by North Coast Flea on Jan 6, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions

I’m with you on that Robo prediction, too.

by StuckInPa on Jan 6, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions

which 3?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 6, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions

I’m not making that prediction.

by StuckInPa on Jan 6, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Sucks that I no longer live in the Bay Area. Woul dhave had two chances to go to a game. Although I doubt I’d attempt a visit to the Black Hole.

Sigh .. will have to wait at least 4 more years and catch them when they go to Seattle.

by talonk on Jan 6, 2011 5:34 PM EST reply actions

When I was at the game in San Fran the Niners fans who were tailgating were all very nice to me (walking around in my Browns jersey) and my friend. They gave us beer and food and we talked football, and they kept telling me that we wouldn’t get treated like that “across the bay” (they never said Oakland).

by Buckeye Brad on Jan 6, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions

You do realize that all Niner fans are complete wussies, right?

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 6, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

This is not true in the least. First game I saw in Candlestick, was back on 10/28/90 when Kosar was still QBing. Although Kosar was hurt for that game and Pagel started instead. A buddy of mine, two gals and I drove up from the Central Coast for the game.

We scalped tickets outside the stadium (me and my date ended up in the endzone about 10 rows back, and my buddy and his gf were in the upper deck). My date was a Niners fan, but I did wear all my Browns colors. I got heckled all game long rather consistenetly. Browns were down 17-3 going into the 4th and made a huge comeback to tie the game before the Niners kicked the GW FG late. However, after the game, the majority of the hecklers came up to me, shook my hand, and congratulated me on the good game the Browns had. Classy fans mostly.

by talonk on Jan 7, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks for proving me right. They are VERY nice people. I got heckled from the lot to my seat. Even my Niner friends were laughing at me during the process. The majority of hecklers did say they were kidding and were nice. Some shook my hand and put there arms around me. I hated it and gave them the "Get the hell off me" look.
See, I was born and raised in San Jose and my father trained me with a whip to hate the Niners. I hate the team and their wussy fans who would rather go drink coffee than get in a fight.. Don’t talk shit if you don’t want to back it up. I take pride wearing our colors and will defend them.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 7, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions

Sorry, but I feel this is the way “ribbing” should be between fanbases, except for perhaps the hated rivals (Steelers-Browns, etc). Heckle opposing fans all you want, but never be lewd, crude or obnoxious about it. Especially to another fanbase that isnt a true rival.

I lived in the Bay Area for many years and grew to dislike both the Raider and Niner fanbases. But the Niner fanbase was typically much more civil. The Raider fanbase is just plain nasty.

by talonk on Jan 7, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions

I’m with you, with the inclusion of the rivals clause.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 9, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions

Did the NFL change their interconference schedule rotation? in 2011,Seattle is listed as a home date and Arizona is listed as an away date. If I remember correctly, I believe Seattle and SF came here in ‘07. We beat Seattle in OT and the SF game was Quinn’s debut. I remember the away game against Arizona as well (a non-call of a force out on K2 cost us that game) So if the NFL follows the same rotation, we should be playing Arizona and St. Louis at home and SF and Seattle on the road.

by chef77 on Jan 11, 2011 9:22 PM EST reply actions

Peter King answered this question last week in his Mailbag (although it was a Steeler fan)

Beginning in 2010, a change was made to how teams are paired in the schedule rotation to ensure that teams playing the AFC and NFC West divisions would not be required to make two West Coast trips (e.g. at San Francisco and at Seattle), while other teams in their division had none (e.g. at St. Louis and at Arizona) … Seems a quirky and unimportant rules change that hurts fans to me, because now, potentially and anecdotally, a great player like Ben Roethlisberger could play his entire career and never play in Seattle. The Steelers could go 12 years without playing in Seattle. I don’t like that.

by talonk on Jan 12, 2011 2:51 AM EST up reply actions