In a search for a coach.....What about Rob Ryan???

I see some club taking a shot with him over the next few years. It needs to be a team that is the right situation to gamble with him at the right time. Holmgren may not think he wants another guy from the def side of the ball. Or he may want someone with previous HC experience. Or he may want someone with a different temperament. Or he may want someone from the West Coast schemes tree. But, If he wants someone who has experience with the players on this team and has shown that players will follow him, that could qualify Ryan as a good choice.

by elsandito on Jan 8, 2011 4:18 PM EST reply actions

This would be by far the awesomest choice we could currently make.

by discoinferno083 on Jan 8, 2011 9:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Do not understand why people think this would be a good idea. Rob Ryan would be a bigger leap then when we hired Mangini. I do not see how Rob Ryan would be any better then what was just fired IMO Rob would be a step back because now you have to deal with growing pains of a guy that has never been a HC.

by Brownsfan4ever on Jan 10, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions

People like his personality. That’s about it.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions

If Mangini wasn’t acceptable, I find it hard to believe Holmgren would pick one of his assistants to be the HC. All reports I have seen indicate Mike wants someone of a similar, offense-oriented football philosophy. I certainly don’t claim to be be privy to MH’s thought process, but I don’t view Ryan as even a long shot for the Head Coaching job.

by Combat Medic on Jan 9, 2011 7:28 AM EST reply actions

Suggestion… right now thee are about 40 threads on five other posts discussing the head coach search.
Seems like it might be a good idea to have a new single ‘home’ post / thread for this topic.
Chris / B19K / Rufio?…

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions

please proofread before posting.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2011 5:11 PM EST reply actions

The proofreading isn’t bad in this one, but please stop using multiple punctuation marks in a row. I don’t care if other people think I’m being picky or too hard on the guy. We are trying to keep the discussion here mature and intelligent. Ending every other sentence with “!!!!” or “?” doesn’t do that.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions

This guy writes the worst fanposts ever. It’s all he ever does here, is write terrible fanposts.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions

I am a fan of his, too. It would be great if we could just hang on to Ryan as our DC for now. Some stability there would really help with both new HC and OC coming on board. The man definitely knows football, no doubt about that. However, in my opinion, he needs to work on his public speaking skills and polish up his professional appearance a bit so more teams will take him seriously. Many are sure to disagree with me. But, his “devil may care” attitude might cause some teams to take pause when considering him as the face and voice of their franchise. It is a business.

Bottom line: I can see him as an HC somewhere in 3-5 years. Not sure if it will be Cleveland, though.

by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 10, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions

I agree with pretty much everything you said except if he remains the Browns DC for now I don’t care about the “polish up his professional appearance” part. Not so sure I care a whole lot about his public speaking skills either. If he can build the Browns defense into something we have to make up a nickname for ("… the famous “Browns Blockade” defense from the Cleveland 2011-14 teams…"), I don’t care if he looks and sounds like Ozzie Osborne after a three day bender.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 10, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions

Your in the wrong forum

No, you.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jan 10, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Jan 10, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I rec’d this because it scares me.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions

SipedUp I’m not doing this as a direct reply because your comments are going to be deleted as soon as a mod sees them. The reason some people here harp on grammar is simply because: Thees krap iz hard 2 reed, I no eet makes mi brane hert!!!!!!!!2 Seriously we try to foster intelligent football conversation around here and 14 point ellipses, endless streams of exclamations, or twelve question marks makes people question ones intelligence and maturity. reacting they way you did when asked to clean it up only furthers this line of thinking.

Your friendly neighborhood Mangini apologist.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 10, 2011 12:35 PM EST reply actions 4 recs

i missed it. But now that his comments are deleted, it just looks like you are all nit-picking.

(the title of the thread really isn’t that big a deal)

oh well.

Go Browns.

by discoinferno083 on Jan 10, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions

Let’s just say the title wasn’t the only thing I had a problem with. Comments are one thing, but when you make a fan post, it’s supposed to be a blog entry. It should be proofread at least once, and I sincerely hope this one wasn’t.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions

more dots on an ellipsis does not a longer pause make.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jan 11, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions

Well….

Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 11, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions

this is one of the great threads in the history of DBN

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 10, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions

dammit i missed everything

by Villeslgr on Jan 10, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions

ME TOO! DAMN!

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 10, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions

I’m not sure if there was more that I missed, but lets just say SipedUp did not appreciate my criticism.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions

I can only imagine. Well, at least I caught most of the fun stuff in the game thread yesterday….

Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.

by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions

SipedUp wanted to reconstruct NTN’s face following NTN’s “constructive” criticism of SU’s postings.

it was amazing. f bombs for everyone. and series of exclamation points as far as the eye could see that concluded w/ “1”, for good measure. too bad most missed it.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 10, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions

Sound epic. Someone should have been grabbing screenshots.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Jan 10, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions

now I feel like Hurley when he guest starred on HIMYM…

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jan 11, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions

Suffice to say, it was a rant of absolutely epic proportions.
The funniest part was that NTN rec’d SU’s rant (which was directed at NTN), then proceeded to provide some additional criticism for SU to cap it off.
I could probably reconstruct the entire thread from memory, for a nominal fee if anyone’s interested.

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 10, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions

something about college professors or football fans with a few bad words sprinkled in.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 10, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions

I’m on the wrong forum apparently, could you direct me to a fencing forum?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

i also think you learned a lesson in maturity, if i’m not mistaken.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 10, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions

shoot, so did I

by Matt Y. on Jan 10, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions

Same!

by emily522 on Jan 11, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions

Ryan could be a good head coach, but I think the plan is to get a HC with a background in offense. I’m kind of looking forward to it; our last few coaches were more defensive-minded.

by Matt Y. on Jan 10, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions

I got this.

Why was Mangini Fired?

- lack of “balls” (going for it on forth and one, too conservative, etc.)
- lack of “connection” (i.e, players “quitting on him” at the end of this season)

Ryan would obviously be a plus in those categories where we speculate Mangini wasn’t.
Also, there would be continunity with Ryan being familiar with the players, defense and organization.

Not saying it’s likely to happen, but there are interesting positives to at least interviewing Rex, particularly if other team(s) are going to be doing so.

by discoinferno083 on Jan 10, 2011 6:19 PM EST reply actions

I mean, Rob, not Rex.

oopsie.

by discoinferno083 on Jan 10, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions

i don’t think either of those is at all interesting as it relates to evaluating a qualified head coaching candidate. they would be extremely far down the list, in any case … and certainly wouldn’t trump X’s and O’s.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 10, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t think your second point holds any water.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions

Indeed.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2011 9:25 AM EST up reply actions

Ryan would obviously be a plus in those categories where we speculate Mangini wasn’t.

saying ryan would be better in these categories too would be speculation. because his brother is rex ryan, he would go for it on 4th an 1? i think he would trust his D, considering he is the guy who had a large part in building that defense.

how do you know players won’t quit on Rob?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jan 11, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions

He’s great i hope we can keep him. If you give him a few pass rushers and another playmaker in the secondary we can be a top 5 defense.

by Zoom88 on Jan 11, 2011 9:30 AM EST reply actions

Though Ryan has said he’s ready and he expects to get interviewed, I haven’t seen him on any list in the media for any team including the Browns. Has anyone seen him talked about as a possibility for any team? Has anyone heard of a report of him being interviewed by any team on a coaching search this year?
As far as my opinion goes, I’m against having Ryan as the next Browns coach.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Jan 11, 2011 12:11 PM EST reply actions

I’ve heard him connected to the Carolina job.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 11, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions

Not anymore. See fanshot.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions

Give interviews, but Shurmur is frontrunner

Give Rob Ryan an interview but bring in more canidates such as Brian Schottenheimer, offensive coordinator of the Jets, Marty’s son. A coach or offensive coordinator with some experience with the “west coast offense” or some one with college and pro coaching experience. Pat Shurmur looks like the forerunner in this race because of his experience and knowledge of the “West Coast Offense”. The Browns are seven players away from playoff material, lets see what Mike Holmgren decides on running this team.

by Anthony7 on Jan 11, 2011 11:34 PM EST reply actions