NFL Wildcard Weekend (Sunday): Game Threads
by Chris Pokorny on Jan 9, 2011 11:55 AM EST
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PrintWell, that was a pretty surprising Wildcard Saturday, wasn't it? You have to give credit to the Seahawks' offense and the throws made by quarterback Matt Hasselbeck. He hasn't played that well in years -- in fact, I don't know if I've ever seen him play a better game. The run by Marshawn Lynch to seal the game was unbelievable. Considering the weapons they had (i.e. they don't have superstars), I give a ton of credit to the Seahawks' offensive coordinator for coming up with some creative formations and plays, and going toe-to-toe with the Saints.
The Colts game was more of a disappointment for me. The Jets' defense deserves credit for getting enough stops, but the thing that killed the Colts during the game was that they had so many 3rd-and-1 situations. They are not a team that gets into those situations very often -- they either convert the first down on second down, or they are faced with a 3rd-and-medium for an obvious passing situation down the field. The execution in those situations didn't work out for Indianapolis.
And then, I'm still baffled by the timeout that Jim Caldwell called with under 30 seconds to go in the game. The Jets appeared content with trying a 51-yard field goal as time expired, but Caldwell called a timeout in hopes that the Jets would be forced to run another snap. I understand that philosophy and would have agreed with that call had the Jets already been in chip-shot range. However, even though it was in a dome, Nick Folk has choked a few times in his career. The timeout allowed the Jets to wisely take advantage of a one-on-one jump ball to the hated Braylon Edwards, setting up the chip shot. Ballgame.
After the jump are my previews for today's games.
Baltimore Ravens vs. Kansas City Chiefs
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Game: Baltimore Ravens vs. Kansas City Chiefs
Date/Time: Sunday, January 9, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WOIO/CBS, Channel 19 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Jim Nantz & Phil Simms
Nobody here wants either of our division teams to win, right? And, the last thing we want to see is another Ravens vs. Steelers matchup. Regardless of my hatred for Baltimore, the Chiefs seem well-equipped for the postseason -- in most games this season, they have had efficient play at the quarterback position, an explosive running game, and a highlight-reel receiver. This game is very tough to predict because these teams haven't faced each other this year and each have different strengths and weaknesses. My Pick: Chiefs win 20-17.
Green Bay Packers vs. Philadelphia Eagles
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Game: Green Bay Packers vs. Philadelphia Eagles
Date/Time: Sunday, January 9, 2010 at 4:30 p.m. EST
Local Television: WJW/FOX, Channel 8 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Joe Buck & Troy Aikman
This one has the billing to be another NFC shootout. Both teams have aggressive defenses, but I expect each team's big-play offensive attack to dominate the game. That means plenty of slants for yards after the catch from Aaron Rodgers to his many receivers, and a bunch of runs by Michael Vick. Vick and the Eagles have had two weeks to correct their offensive gameplan from when they couldn't handle the Vikings' blitzing. Clay Matthews and Charles Woodson are difference makers though and will come up with a big play when it counts. My Pick: Packers win 35-31.
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Tough for the games today to top yesterdays. Go KC.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 9, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions
Packers / Eagles should be a good one.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions
If it goes into overtime it will be interesting to see what the Eagles decide to do if they win the toss ;)
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
well, we know one person who’s not going to have any say on the matter.
“Andy—Andy hold up for a second-wait-let’s think about this maybe we—
“Shut -up Marty.”
by johnnyphoenix on Jan 9, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This might be blasphemy, but I usually root for AFC North teams to win in the playoffs. The further they get, the worse draft picks they have.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:09 PM EST reply actions
Meh. Regardless of my personal feelings towards the other teams in our division, it’s in our best interests for them to win at this point. It also makes the division as a whole look better. I mean, I know most Alabama and Florida fans are going to be rooting for Auburn tomorrow night, and most folks don’t have a problem with that. Is this any different?
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by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
This is the NFL, not some BCS sham, it doesn’t matter how our division looks, just ask the Seahawks.
Regardless, everyone already knows we are the toughest division in sports anyway.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Jan 9, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not following your reasoning man. SEC rivalries predate the BCS by about 65 years. Those teams hate each other.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I’m saying, that in the NFL, how good your division looks does not matter (i.e. Seahawks). This is unlike college football, where conference toughness does effect BCS ranks, hence automatic qualifying conferences.
The second part about the AFC North being the toughest division in sports, well that is just self explanatory.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Oh, OK. I follow.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I understand your reasoning, but cannot approve.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Right…in a perfect world we have 11 Joe Thomas’s on the field and we pancake the Steelers and Ravens repeatedly until there is nothing but gold/black and purple/black mush on the field. I hate steelers fans and there are way to many of them around here.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
too many i mean
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I admittedly can’t claim to be a ‘long term / diehard Browns fan’, but I don’t really understand why everyone wants to root against all the other teams in your division with so much enthusiasm.
Last time I was a ‘long term diehard fan’ was when I was a teenager and had 10+ years (i.e. my whole life) of history rooting for the St. Louis Cardinals (who then left town for Arizona and I haven’t given a shit about Arizona or St. Louis football teams since). I ‘hated’ the Cowboys (they were pretty much the bane of the Cardinals existence, but probably more so because of the “America’s Team” title than anything else). But I don’t remember having such a hard core disdain for the other teams in the NFC East back then.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
It would take about 50 years to explain it to you then.
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 9, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
With the Ravens, I definitely can understand the resentment, considering how successful they have been since the relocation. But at this point—15 years since the old Browns left, and more than a decade into the expansion Browns era—I can’t blame Art Modell & co. for our woes anymore. Plenty of teams have gotten it together in a much shorter time frame for me to do that.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
To clarify that last sentence, which doesn’t really make sense now that I’ve reread it—I’ve watched so many teams build or rebuild themselves into contenders in far fewer seasons than the expansion era Browns have existed. Thus, I can’t lay any blame for the current Browns’ ineptitude on the move to Baltimore.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
The Modell – Ravens thing is a good point.
I suppose if Bidwell had migrated the team to a new team in the NFC East maybe it would have been a different story, except I had moved away by the time the Rams came to St. Louis and never had any interest in them (and I wasn’t from St. Louis anyway – I grew up in Southern Illinois about 100 miles away).
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Art Modell is the biggest POS in the history of sports. The city of Cleveland gave him everything and he continued to rape the city until he couldn’t bleed it anymore and just left. I don’t blame him for anything, I just want to piss on his grave.
by HenryDawg on Jan 9, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t beat around the bush, man. Tell us what you really think.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
There was a great post written here about what Art Modell did to the city of Cleveland, which involved more than just moving the team. I’ll see if I can find it so you may have a better understanding of the team’s history with the city and why he is so hated. There also have been several books written on the subject.
Ok, thanks.
BTW – rufio expressed pretty much the same thoughts in a response to one of my posts a while back, so I am aware of the general sentiment about Modell.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
He was bleeding the Indians….he was pissed when they got a new park and he couldn’t charge them at the old stadium anymore which he owned.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
In the old days most smaller markets had one stadium to share. Modell wanted luxury boxes to offset the lost income. Baltimore gave him luxury boxes.
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Jan 9, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
OT: Just watched Inception. Blew my f*ckin’ mind! WOW!
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
Damn, I still owe B19K an email on that! Just heads up, don’t spoil it for anyone reading through this thread.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Oh course. Should we email or try to talk in code about it?
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
You can email me (the one I use is on my profile page.)
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
SBN needs a chat option.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve always thought of these live game threads as sort of half chat – half fourm.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Right, but when speaking about movies, a pure chat option is ideal. Suppose that’s why this is a football blog.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Email sent by the way.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Re-Responded.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
This could go on forever, so this will be the last time I mention that I re-re-reponded. Now you have to check your email yourself!
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I was hoping it’d keep going, baha.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve got to transfer it from my laptop, so it’ll be just a second. (I’m on my desktop right now.)
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Let’s do this. We need to get B19K into this Inception brain trust.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Beautifully explained, my friend
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, I was hoping it was something that wasn’t too convoluted, which can happen trying to explain something as complex as this.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
This was the problem I had trying to explain just the first 5 minutes to my girlfriend. First time I saw Mal, I understood how she was there and what the problem was.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Slightly off-topic: Apparently Nnamdi Asomugha is going to hit free agency. Why on earth would the Raiders agree to a player option that vests upon Asomugha’s failure to hit certain performance benchmarks?
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:23 PM EST reply actions
Al Davis, hello.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone else kind of think that it sucks that the Seahawks won yesterday?
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:44 PM EST reply actions
No, I was hoping they did. Thought it was awesome, even if their coach is Carroll.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
If they had upset the Patriots or something, I probably would have enjoyed the schadenfreude. But I have no hatred for the Saints. . . and to me the Seahawks are just a garbage team that snuck into the playoffs because they play in a division of garbage. I’d rather see a good organization win (which is why I rooted for the Steelers against the Cardinals a few years ago in the Super Bowl).
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Holy crap, you have a lot of bad views. You seriously rooted for the Steelers over the Cardinals? What the hell…
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
What can I say man? I believe in meritocracy.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the underdog factor was amazing. Nobody in the world picked the Seahawks.
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed. Also, the Saints got their shot last year. I wasn’t rooting for them anymore.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Long shot surely, but I think i’m rooting for the 7-9 team that becomes the joke that won a SB.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
(which is why I rooted for the Steelers against the Cardinals a few years ago in the Super Bowl).
How do you deal with the indigestion and acid reflux?
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
And the incest from doing your sister?
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
No, that’s a common Steeler joke around here.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, got it.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was so pumped about that Fitzgerald catch in that game….I just kept thinking “they left too much time”.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me, or do the Browns show up at an abnormally high rate in other teams’ highlight reels? I mean, every other clip they showed in that pregame package had a Browns defender getting beasted.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
I notice this as well. It’s disturbing.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when Haden shut him down a few weeks ago? Small victories.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Saw that. Hope it was Berry’s coverage. More reason to pile on that Ward was the much better pick.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
What you should be arguing, Haden + Ward > Eric Berry.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I don’t know if you read the link I posted in a recent threat to FOs all-rookie team.
In short, TJ Ward made the all-rookie team at safety over Berry and Nate Allen.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Kiper picked him as one of the ten best rookies as well.
He also inexplicably picked Kyle Wilson over Joe Haden.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Great breakup by Eric Berry in the red zone there.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
Shh.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Vince Vaughn + Kevin James = awful comedy compounded a few hundred time over
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Those Mayhem spots are 10x funnier than anything James has ever been in.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Not a game topic, but how would you use the Browns first three draft picks? ROT, WR and maybe LB?
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions
I would be ok with those needs in that order unless Green were still available.
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 9, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
A massive drunken orgy with another species? Actually I only saw 3 female aliens, for about 300+ dudes.
That’s one sick sausage fest.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Lots of homosexual undertones in that commercial.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I would’ve been smart. I would’ve stayed for the eventual party of 300+ women.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
The girl’s really have Guiness, not bud light.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
That would actually make a for a good response ad by Guiness, as long as the viewers knew the reference.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Indeed.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’d be inclined to stay behind.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
TD….woohoo!
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions
Nah man, T. Jones is way better.
/Todd Haley
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
At least Todd Haley gives him the ball a lot right?
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
The Chiefs are going to get blown up in the second half if they don’t get their D a little more rest.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 1:53 PM EST reply actions
Can someone explain to me how and why Weis is going to Florida to be the OC? Why not stay and OC in the NFL?! It’s obviously working great. Also, how did he get out of his contract to do so?
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
I think his ego clashed with Haley.
SEC schools are pretty experienced with buying people so I’m sure they just tossed a few million to KC who will probably be happy to see him go anyway.
The guys got health problems and a retarded kid. I’d imagine that CF OC is less of a grind than the NFL. NFL is 21 weeks, half on the road, while CF is, what, 12 weeks, and less than half on the road when you coach at a major program like Florida.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Indeed. Every time he does something good, he either gets sacked or fumbles the next play. Not that i’m complaining.
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Why couldn’t Romeo create a defense like that for us?
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
He wasn’t our DC?
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
He was our HC though. Some HC’s take one of the coordinator jobs. Also, he couldn’t have nugged the DC some help?
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
In Cleveland the head coach is only responsible for clock management and wins and losses. Didn’t you know that? (sarcasm, just to be clear)
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
7 3 KC
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Lol…where’s realmccoy?
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
lmao….I posted this a.m. on yesterdays thread that at least he can say he was McCoy’s biggest fan If he does become our glorious QBOTF.
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think the kid has potential and I hope he is successful but someone was drinking more than I was last night to say he was better than Manning at any point.
I was just going to say something to that effect (where’s realmccoy: probably nursing a hangover, I think he may have been drinking last night.). Oh well, I guess I can’t blame him.
A lot of Longhorns fans have taken to the bottle lately I believe.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I do too…he needs a little more help. Some of those floaters in the bad weather bother me though. I , and I hate to say it, wish we had a prototypical QB for our division. About 6’5" and strong as a bull.
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
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Oh dear. Baltimore has a lead and huge t.o.p. advantage. Looks like AFC North football will reign.
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:24 PM EST reply actions
The slide rule is dumb. If you don’t want to be hit, don’t run the ball.
At the very least, you should be considered down the moment you start the slide. The ball should be spotted at the exact place the QB starts the slide, regardless of where the defense makes contact or where the body makes contact with the ground.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
again, this works in our favor as well.
if you don’t want the QB to slide for extra yardage, get to him faster.
by discoinferno083 on Jan 9, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
How bout the Cowher analysis, dump offs and run it…..AFC North at it’s finest and I don’t disagree. Just wish we could duplicate how well they do it in Pukesburgh.
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by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 2:36 PM EST reply actions
I love the fact that the Chiefs are willing to run up the guy on 3rd and 1.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
I kinda thought BAL would be rippin’ them apart.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Just an FYI: Pat Shurmur supposedly emerging as frontrunner for HC job
(I just created a FanShot link – article today from Cabot on cleveland.com…)
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions
How very underwhelming.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Shurmur?
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. Not particularly impressed with him.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I guess the one thing he has going for him is that he worked nine seasons under Andy Reid.
Supposedly (from the article) he comes highly recommended by Reid.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
That’s a very kind description of St. Louis’ WRs.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Bradford was OK this year. He had an overrated season in a garbage division.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely agree with that.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
don’t get me wrong. I think Bradford will be really good. Eventually.
The bottom line is the schedule was very weak this year and he hasn’t done anything very spectacular. Not that I would expect him to – as a rookie.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea what to think of this guy, neither good nor bad.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
He probably wouldn’t kick it in overtime, so that’s always a plus.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Yeah, I’m indifferent too.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Same.
Although he’s done good things with Bradford this year, so that’s good. He’s worked with a lot of good QBs.
Rams had one of the worst offenses in football this year.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Frontrunner in a field of how many other runners? Answer: 1
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 9, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Who do you think is the other ‘1’?
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Just my opinion but Mularkey intrigues me most.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
well, this news probably came from saturday (chris mortenson heard it from NFL execs this morning so the news is already about 3rd-hand and probably about a day old), it makes sense considering he was the only person at that point we know they had interviewed.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Work on your car like I’m gunna do.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Same here. Changing the oil, replacing my gauge lights and making a shifter plate to replace my shifter boot. Gonna be fun.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I miss that. Had a nice garage until my divorce.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t have a garage to begin with. Hoping it doesn’t snow like this weekend.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t do that anymore….cost me like 400 more to get our cars inspected this year than it would have if I was still willing to work out in the cold.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Blah, I love doing my own work.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I never was till I bought my first car. My dad was in auto mechanics as a high schooler and I feel like I was never living up to his expectations. I was great in school but terrible with car stuff. Now, up to my third car, I’m much more handy and car knowledgeable.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
My second car was a 79 Mercury Capri RS Turbo. The turbo 4 banger shit the bed on me so I dropped a 351 windsor in. Bolted right up with 302 mounts and a c4 tranny. Wow…that was in 1989. I feel old.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
I own a 4 banger Honda. I’m in a tough spot to do any large engine modifications until the summer when I’m out of school and my loan is done but I plan to do a turbo build or swap a different 250+ hp 4-cylinder Honda engine into it and begin an N/A build.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Same. Oil change and the lil’ brake tabs are starting to squeel. The noise is pissin’ me off.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for reminding me, also replacing my shoes and resetting the adjusters in the back. My pedal is starting to hit the floor
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Cars suck.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but it;s fun to do (sometimes) and I always like doing my own work, so I know it wasn’t duct tapped together by a mechanic (real life experience)
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
That gross looking Frito Burrito? LOL Hell yeah. Looks nasty.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
You’re crazy. It’s f*cking delicious.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Really? I’m scared to try it.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I usually stay to the same things when I go there but I got the box and it’s a decent burrito. It’s the nacho cheese that brings the burrito together.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Taco Bell meat is one slight grade above dog food meat. Nuclear orange fake cheese product? Psuedo spicy MSG fritods? Pass.
Don’t care. I love me a crunchwrap.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
That meat is all processed with ammonia and other “stuff.” Watch Food Inc. for more on that. Good flick. I don’t eat there no mo.
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 9, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed it was. I know Taco Bell food isn’t the best, but they got me hooked. Oh well, it’s good in my mouth.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I try to avoid fast food, but I may make an exception just to try that thing. Or I may just get a Chipotle and throw some flaming hot fritos on it.
Chipotle is the much healthier, but much more expensive version of Taco Bell. It’s so much more delicious but 25 minutes father away than the Taco Bell I live by, sadly.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Chipotle is really good.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t into it the first time I tried it, due to getting the burrito (the items that accompany the burrito, I did not enjoy). But the next I went, I got a Taco Salad (their servings are huge) and it was amazingly delicious.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
You just made me hungry thinking about it.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
No offense but I hate Chipotle….not enough selections and they will only give you cheese OR sour cream. Not both.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
When I go there I don’t need no stinkin’ selections.
I just get the burrito with chicken, have ‘em load it up and I’m good as gold.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. Find what you like there and you never need to worry about choice.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
No, there is not a big selection but I don’t think there needs to be. And I always get cheese and sour cream. Sorry yours sucks.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
I have only ever ordered online. Maybe that’s why.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t do that. Go in and do it personally. Only way you can get food from Chipotle.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
K….I did like the smokiness of the chicken.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I get the chicken Taco Salad. So good. And everything they buy is grown locally, which makes it amazingly healthy, if you can believe that.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
the things they buy at many restaurants is grown locally, but may not be healthy. Its all about what they add and all restaurants add lots of butter/oil and lots of salt.
I could make a chipotle burrito at home with pretty much the same ingredients, but cut out a hundred or so calories and 500-600 mg sodium at minimum.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
QUIT IT.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
relevance?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
because of your mouth.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I still don’t get it…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Probably more like 500 calories and 1000 mg Na. Restaurant food is awful for you.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
thats probably what I could make at home.
their best thing for you is 600-700 calories (at least their burritos) and 1500 mg sodium. So cut the amount I mentioned out and you get wheat you said.
I agree on restaurant food. this was my general point. pretty much every restaurant pumps tons of butter and Na into your food. it enhances the flavor but also gives more enhancement to your gut.
I like living at home now b/c my dad cooks healthy and we don’t go out.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I think the tortilla is like 300 calories by itself so if you get the bol, without cheese and sourcream it’s not too bad. In college I worked at a restaurant that loaded MSG and other flavor enhancers onto almost everything they made. People would come in craving the food like crack addicts – no wonder!
I get the bowl. I understand how and why I crave fast food sometimes. But the fact that’s it’s so convenient over rules the unhealthiness for me. For a while I’d only get it rarely, like once on payday. But in the last few weeks, I’ve gotten pretty bad.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
I know we moved this summer and everything got so hectic we’ld constantly just run out to grab some quick food instead of trying to unpack all our kitchen wares. You’re probably young enough to process it, but at our age, we both put on like 30 lbs in a month – which is scary and really gross, plus it takes us 10xs longer to lose it.
so you are down to 700 calories and 1600-1700 mg sodium. Still not particularly good.
You are right. the bol without cheese and sour cream is the only way you can eat healthy there. Forgot they do the bol. If you do that and get the steak (surprisingly their healthiest meat) and fajitas instead of beans, you are able to have a meal under 500 calories and under 1000 mg sodium.
I try to eat out as little as possible b/c I know that most places add a lot of either
a) butter/oil
b) MSG/other flavor enhancing chemicals
c) Salt.
All places add way too much salt and most places add either A, B, or both. My grandma never eats out anymore b/c she can’t have too much salt.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Good God, my mouth is actually watering now.
I’m trying to think where the nearest Chipotle is…
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
25 minutes away from me in Canton. My friend is going tonight, I’m jealous.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and don’t get me started on the chips…. Oh my God…
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing there’s some time between the games.
Seems I have an errand to run…
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Guac is my enemy. I always stay away from it when ordering toppings.
Chicken Taco Salad. Cheese, Pintos, sour cream, lettuce.
Delicious.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Tacos were my favorite but when compared to all the other serving sizes of the other choices, you’re getting ripped off. So I moved to the taco salad with chips and it’s essentially the same thing + tons more food.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
chipotle isn’t THAT healthy. I mean it is made with healthier ingredients, but the fact that chipotle is “healthy food” is a complete myth.
this is the nutritional information of your average Chipotle burrito
~950-1000 Calories
~2000 mg sodium
~35 g Fat
The food isn’t terrible, there is just a lot of it.
Unless you get a fajita (veggies, no beans) and take out the cheese and sour cream (which very few people do), it is unhealthy. If you do that, the calories go down to about 650 and the sodium drops to 1500.
Surprisingly, the steak is actually the leanest meat.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Of course, you had to Bross-ify this conversation. WHEN TALKING ABOUT FAST FOOD AND COMPARING IT TO TACO BELL, IT IS SURPRISINGLY HEALTHY. That’s what I said Bross. Their food is grown locally and is for the most part all natural. It’s healthy. They just give you huge portions.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
you know taco bell has healthy options now too…just as healthy (if not healthier) per volume as Chipotle. Yes, they have big servings and one burrito is a meal. However to claim anything with around 1k calories and upwards of 2k mg sodium is “healthy” seems a bit dishonest to the word.
IT IS SURPRISINGLY HEALTHY
Not really. surprisingly healthy would mean the healthiness would exceed one’s expectations. However, considering the way they advertise it, I am underwhelmed with the health content.
Their food is grown locally and is for the most part all natural. It’s healthy
I can grow 100% natural organic chicken, but if I marinate it in butter and throw a handful of salt on it, it loses its health advantage.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
tl;dr. SHUT UP.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not Bross, but thanks anyways haha.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Butter and salt are nothing compared to the steroids, anti-biotics, and hormones that are in most fast food meat.
At least butter and salt are natural, like I was saying.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
those things are in all meat, unless you buy meat from other countries.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 11, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
lol, did you really need to break down and analyze this discussion?
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Are you shocked?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing is that they don’t use meats and dairy with hormones, anti-biotics and steroids, which is important for me from both the animal welfare standpoint and the personal health of my family.
and I get this. this is very good. I guess I have been recently looking at things from the sense of calories/fat/sodium. In recent months I have become a bit of a health nut.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I think Mighty Taco is better personally…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
My usual choice is a crunchwrap and nachos bell grande. But when they have a good $5 box, I substitute the box for my usual until they change it to something less desirable.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
thats a good choice.
Mighty taco is actually a taco chain in the buffalo area.
After I said it, I realized people wouldn’t get it.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Ah, got it.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
its like taco bell with less options, but different ones for the region. Like they have options where they have the chicken marinated in buffalo wing sauce.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Applebee’s is also disgusting. Last time I ate there, I had this sizzling shrimp thing. The vegetables where puny unfrozen bits with this sickening sweet (not spicy as advertised) sauce. The bartender asked “Is everything tasting ok for you?”. In a rare instance of complete frankness with someone who is serving me, I said “No really.” He looked surprised and walked away.
Applebees is the worst crap ever.
It’s not a lie if you believe it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Applebee’s food is all freeze dried and sent there. All microwaved food.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
If I have to go there, I get a salad. I’d much rather hit up the Texas Roadhouse down the road. Food is so much better and you can actually watch them cook it.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Colt McCoy would NEVER eat there.
by kingcrimson2 on Jan 9, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Cassel has absolutely cratered the past couple of games.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:13 PM EST reply actions
Cassel was never good to begin with.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
He was having a pretty solid season up until the last few games.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Andersonesque, if you will. KC had a very soft schedule this season. I think they only beat one team that went to the playoffs and that was Seattle.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah – just looked at their schedule again, didn’t realize it was so weak.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
somebody needs to explain that to me.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
A rule that only benefits those of the Patriots or formerly of the Pats.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ordinarily, if the quarterback drops or loses the football while he is bringing the ball forward in a passing motion, and the ball touches the ground, it is considered an incomplete pass. If the quarterback drops or loses the football at any other time, it is considered a fumble, as if any other player had dropped it.
The tuck rule is an exception to this rule. It applies if the quarterback brings his arm forward in a passing motion, but then changes his mind and tries to keep hold of the football rather than making a pass. In this situation, if the quarterback loses the ball while stopping his passing motion or bringing the ball back to his body, it is still considered a forward pass (and thus an incomplete pass if the ball hits the ground).
Thank you! That’s exactly what happened here.
How is this rule still enforced? Ravens got the shaft here, this should be a fumble.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
This was from Wikipedia. There could be some errors.
by emily522 on Jan 9, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That’s what happened on the play. Looks like he was motioning forward then decided to keep it.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Rec.
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yep! By a Pats QB nonetheless.
"SHOW OF HANDS! WHO DOESN’T HAVE PANTS ON RIGHT NOW!?!?!"
-B19k, after the Sugar Bowl victory.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
RC looks pretty good all bundled up on the sideline with his eyes peeking over his gator neck warmer…at least they said it was RC.
This game is turning into a smack down.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions
+1
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
The melodic fat lady is providing her aria.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:33 PM EST reply actions
Phil Simms has no clue that you can challenge the spot of the ball.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
Phil Simms is the biggest douche of a sportscaster ever. That includes Esiason and Bob Costas.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
And don’t forget Marv Albert……bigger douche than him too. What with all the biting and whatnot.
Forgive my cynicism, i'm still in denial. My sense of community is lost.
by 489favegame stat on Jan 9, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
can’t blame them, KC laid an egg today.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Sheesh. Too bad for KC – their ‘return to glory season’ comes to an ugly end.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Great first half, though. Arrowhead must be among the top 10 NFL venues. Fans are generally very loyal and football smart.
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 9, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Wild Card domination this season.
Next two AFC games are division games. That’s weird.
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Heard today that this was the first time the previous two Super Bowl teams were eliminated in the first round.
That makes no sense. Steelers won before the Saints, then it was the Colts.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, you didn’t say winning teams. You meant the last two from the previous game. Got it.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m hungry. I think I’m going to go to the one bar where the playoffs are on, order me some wings and watch this epic quarterback battle.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 4:12 PM EST reply actions
Chipotle. You know you want to.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh… right. You have ACTUAL Mexican food. Bleh, no thank you.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Having lived in South Texas (Austin and San Antonio) for over 20 years, I was going to say something about ‘actual Mexican food’ – but I think if I talk about food any more I really am going to have to get in my car and drive to Chipotle, so I think I’ll stop here.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Haa, it was a joke. I love going to Don Pablos for authentic Mexican food. A three enchilada deal with fried rice and bean dip, is to die for.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Suffice to say you could spend a month vacation in San Antonio and Austin drowning yourself in a mile long list of incredibly good Mexican restaurants.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Not really, we don’t. California Burrito Company is the closest we come to Mexican food. Actually, if you want to make your own hard shell tacos, you can buy Ortega products in some supermarkets.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 9, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Well, of course.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
You do realize that Buenos Aires is no where near Mexico, don’t you?
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Jan 9, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, I know. Was making a joke due to the Spanish origins of the name.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
I heard their food is healthy…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I heard it wasn’t so much.
Can’t remember where – but I’m pretty sure I heard it somewhere recently.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
No offense to him, but never trust Bross. Also, everything he was saying was skewing my words.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
No offense to him, but never trust Bross
yes, because this CLEARLY does not denigrate my intergrity.
Also, everything he was saying was skewing my words.
nope.
Maybe I am a little biased because everyone I know claims chipotle is so healthy and it kind of annoys me.
And its not just me Men’s Health agrees with me on Chipotle.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I SAID QUIT IT.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
No offense to him, but never trust Bross
No offense to you, but you are an annoying piece of shit to everyone who disagrees with you.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Wow, that was completely uncalled for.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, that was completely uncalled for.
and your comment wasn’t?
you make rude comments like that to EVERYONE, ALL THE TIME and when you get one back it is uncalled for?
I am sorry, but that is ridiculous.
Honestly, I can’t remember the last time I was annoyed to the point of insults. I have a very long fuse, but you burned all of it.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Bross, quit it.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
SB, go to hell!
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Hm, you need to chill man.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Hm, you don’t?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I’m obviously perfectly fine.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Why, thank you.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Sure it was. Sure it was…
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
You missed the whole convo above.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
You also missed that convo below I think.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
He could be foreign.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
+1
(what can I say – I got a Bart Starr jersey for Christmas when I was about 7 years old)
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I have Vick and Akers on my fantasy team. LET’S DO THIS EAGLES.
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Same.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
No harm wished upon your fantasy teams but I hope something worse than losing happens to that horrible excuse for a human being.
Damn, you’re one of the holdouts eh?
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
People who still hate Vick.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
That is an un – needed feeling toward Vick. Much too harsh.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not to get an a whole side debate, but the guy subsidized and likely first hand participated in bloodsport (needless, vicious death) of sentient domesticated animals. Time in jail and insincere apologies don’t erase that, no matter who good he is at football.
I didn’t say it didn’t. I just feel you’re holding too much of a grudge that doesn’t equate to the crime he committed.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, because I understand your position too.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Emily should be in charge when there aren’t any mods around.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 10, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
I did it, but I’m not guilty about it.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 10, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I don’t really see why Vick discussion is not allowed.
We also verbally bash players in live game threads all the time, often without any censorship whatsoever.
But apparently calling Clay Matthews Jr. a * is off limits.
But the following is perfectly acceptable:
Hey Braylon Edwards, fuck you. I always hated you.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
If you have an issue that you would like to discuss, feel free to email me.
Profanity is allowed in game threads. Slurs are not.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 11, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
Ah, we are keeping it P.C. around, here. Fair enough. I wasn’t fully aware of that before my previous transgression in this thread Sunday.
it’s definitely something that was easily worked out, clarified, right here and now.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Thanks for the clarification, B19K. Not to drag this out, but have we completely put the kibosh on Vick discussion? While there was some heat in the chatter here on it, I thought there was some light as well, and it was actually more relevant to the site than the epic tales of food health above it.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 11, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t mind if you talk about Mike Vick.
Just remember, as long as it is football based (for the most part) and civil, there shouldn’t be a problem.
I know that I have been sucked into the non-football thread more than I would like to admit, and with the off-season coming up, it is bound to happen. We, myself included, just need to remember to keep it classy. Don’t say anything on here you wouldn’t say to someone’s face. (Not claiming anyone did that here, just an off-season reminder. Last season got nuts.)
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 11, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Cool, thanks. I’ll try not to abuse the privilege. I’m guessing the Vick stuff here got pruned for some of the more intense statements made more than anything else, then.
I’ve half a mind to do a fanpost on Vick here when things get quiet – so you guys wouldn’t hate me too much for that, would you?
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 11, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Come over to the dark side, Emily. We have chocolate!
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 11, 2011 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously, a little guilt is a good sign. It means you’ll do better next time. Still mod material!
Never underestimate the powers of Mike Holmgren.
by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 11, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Killing innocent animals (dogs no less) and profiting off their deaths is a crime that should equally more time than he did, imo.
To be clear, so we all understand, he didn’t go to jail for the dog fights. He went on probation for the dog fights and went to jail for lying to officials.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Right. He did zero time for animal cruelty which is not right., imo I’d rather live in a society that recognizes how destructive animal abuse is instead of glorifying animal abuser if they are good at sports or a celebrity.
Basically, it comes down to if you believe animals are property and have no inherent value/worth beyond that, or if they are something more. I’ll leave it at that.
Do you hate bullfighters too?
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Or horse racers?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t like either.
Again, I think if we keep talking about this it’s going to lead to getting a big chunk of this thread deleted.
Yeah, I caught myself too late. My bad!
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
And try to verbally abuse you for no reason when you tell him to quit it?
Hopefully not.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
And try to verbally abuse you for no reason when you tell him to quit it?
and snide comments like the ones you and em made above that people make ALL THE TIME aren’t verbally abusive?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Damnit, shouldn’t have done that. Disregard my comment please…
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yes to both. I have a retired thoroughbred who barely got saved from slaughter auction by a former trainer of mine. The horse started 100 races, finished in the money 46% of the time and raced until he was 12 years old winning over half a million dollars. His thanks was to be thrown on a truck meant to haul cows and be paraded around for the value of his meat. He’s one of the lucky few who only have to deal with arthritis and my fat ass occasionally sitting on his back.
Yes to both. I have a retired thoroughbred who barely got saved from slaughter auction by a former trainer of mine. The horse started 100 races, finished in the money 46% of the time and raced until he was 12 years old winning over half a million dollars. His thanks was to be thrown on a truck meant to haul cows and be paraded around for the value of his meat. He’s one of the lucky few who only have to deal with arthritis and my fat ass occasionally sitting on his back.
Hats off to you for that, HD.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think the trend is actually “things that fly.”
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Packers if the Wild Card trend continues.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Vick being my favorite non-Brown/Buckeye, I won’t mind if the Eagles win. But the Pats are my semi-second favorite team.
Win-win scenario, so I just want a great game.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
You mean Pack*. F*ck the Pats. Cheating bastards.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sad that Fox calls them their best huh?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve heard 5 Guys is good.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Heard it’s greasy as all hell though.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if I can respect a person who doesn’t love Five Guys.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Jan 9, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nevermind, Jackson was hurt. Not McCoy.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
It’s alright, we’ll get Casey and continue the generation of Clay LBs in Cleveland.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
You can see for yourself when he plays Auburn…
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. I still do a tiny double take every time I hear the name “Clay Matthews” during a play by play.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Simms, what video types does 360 support? I’m assuming .AVI is fine, but just want to know.
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You might have to download a patch for certain codecs. I’m not sure though, with the new firmware.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
What type do you run?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
You’ve told me before you play movies through your 360 off a USB, I’m asking what types the 360 supports.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
It should support most .avi codecs. But you may have to download a patch. I’m not sure with the new firmware, whether or not it’s supported automatically, or if you still need to download something.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I have upgraded to the new firmware, but I assume it would support it. I’ll wait till it downloads and pop it in and give an update.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit Joe Buck, why are you using the passive voice? “A good play was made.” WTF
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
No way to you go for a field goal there.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2011 7:19 PM EST reply actions
Starks over 120 yards. Awesome.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 7:29 PM EST reply actions
Go MAC!
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 9, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen. Send Vick home today!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
High five!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Good night, Mr. Vick. Thanks for the INT!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 7:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I need a new wallpaper, I need some ideas. I tried the actual “desktop” one, where you can place your icons on a shelf, but without W7, it doesn’t come out right. Suggestions?
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I created a wallpaper folder and change depending on mood. Right now, I have a nice close – up of a Honda rim with red Blembo calipers. Tomorrow it could be a picture of Carlton with “Thug Life” etched into his shirt, or a picture that says “Your Computer Is Now” and a choice of off/on with On lit up in green. I’m very pleased.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t see it as political. A tiny portion is about political correctness though.
I did make sure to censor myself, though I doubt it’ll make a difference.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Oh well, enjoy it while you can. I thought it was a fun way to waste an hour.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Right back at you, Simmsinns.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
No hard feelings, I hope. Considering the this whole debate is about feelings toward a third party figure.
I would hate if my refusal to hold a grudge against Vick were to make me a lying subhuman monster in your eyes.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Heh. No sir, no hard feelings at all – unless you suddenly admit to overseeing a dogfighting ring, try to subvert your bankruptcy proceedings by squirreling millions away out of the sight of the law, and perform some other stellar acts of personal conduct! (And we call it a sense of justice, not a holding a grudge.)
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Can we all just agree not to discuss fast food anymore?
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 9, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Debating whether cruelty to dogs is worse than other forms of animal torture/execution is like debating abortion. You either believe that human life believes at conception in a meaningful way or you don’t, and you either believe that dogs are special creatures or you don’t. There’s not really a middle ground, and that’s why these debates can rage on without any end in sight.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t really see the parallel. I also think there is in fact a ton of middle ground. But this, right now, is where it would turn political.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
The common factor is that both sides are starting with a presumption that can’t be rebutted by facts or reasoning.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
I get what you are saying, I’m just not entirely sure that it is the case.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
With abortion I know that’s the case, because I’ve had to listen to so many damn abortion debates. It all ends up in equivocation—“life” means different things to different people, and it usually depends on their unchangeable spiritual beliefs.
I see the similarities in the Vick animal cruelty thing because the pro-Vick side, at least when it’s arguing that what Vick did wasn’t all that horrible, points to the fact that the way human beings regard animals pretty much varies from society to society and that what’s “wrong” is all relative. The dog-loving Vick haters respond by pointing to the nature of dogs as animals, and describing the horrific stuff Vick did to the dogs. In other words, what the Vick-haters say doesn’t really do anything to rebut what the Vick-supporters say. . . their conclusion (that what Vick did was especially awful and unforgivable) flows from the premise that dogs have unique characteristics that makes cruelty to them a worse act than other types of animal mistreatment. That premise can’t be rebutted by any type of facts or reasoning—it stems from innate belief I think—and it is not shared by the Vick-supporting relativists.
Maybe I’ve created straw men, though.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
This must have been the least game thready game thread ever.
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 9, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions
And they lost.
I’m just going to pretend that LeBron has a season ending injury but his twin, LeGone, decided to go to Miami. ;)
At this point, I’d rather see them lose. Need those lottery picks.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Jan 9, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
For what it’s worth: All but one of the remaining eight playoff teams have either:
1. An HC with previous HC experience, or
2. At least one coordinator with previous HC experience.
The exception? The Jets. No matter what you think of the team, their success is pretty remarkable considering the overall inexperience of their top coaches, notwithstanding the buttload of skilled free agents they have added to their roster this season.
So what? Maybe HC experience does matter.
by JustPlainBrowns on Jan 9, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions
2. At least one coordinator with previous HC experience
Good point. Folks make a point about football minds of HCs but one of the most important things is who he chooses to surround himself. One of the reasons Bill Walsh has such an extensive tree is that he hired smart guys in the first place.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Jan 10, 2011 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey Mods,
Thanks for cleaning up in here…
Except for the Seahawks the clearly better teams won, setting up an exciting Divisional Weekend. Alas, we have to listen to 6 days of Rex Ryan. I think we will be spared the debate over whether he is an excellent coach or not. That will happen if the Jets knock off the Pats.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Jan 10, 2011 8:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Hat tip on calling out Caldwell on that TO – beyond stupid. He let the Jets keep their timeout on the edge of FG range – and thus gave them the run/pass option. Let it run and you know Sanchez has to pass without the benefit of the huddle. Thinking on the fly not Mark´s strong suit.
Note to Bill Byrne "Because you aren´t Texas and you´ll never be Texas"
I said somewhere upthread that the Cape looked horrible – I was wrong, based on the pilot, it seems to be a really, really good replacement for Heroes. NBC seems to have made Mondays into its geek night so it fits into a nice niche lineup with Chuck and maybe the Event. I’m sure they will all be cancelled soon enough and replaced with adults singing while jumping around in ball machines
I’m sure they will all be cancelled soon enough and replaced with adults singing while jumping around in ball machines
This is true.
(I missed The Cape, and missed the encore last night. Wish I hadn’t.)
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Jan 11, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Heroes was complete garbage after the very first season.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Heroes was complete garbageafter the very first seasonin general.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
If you haven’t watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
BTW SB, I have this lined for my long weekend!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 11, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
It will be one of the greatest movies you’ve ever seen. Your mind will be blown. Your wife will be confused in the first 5 minutes. If she starts to ask questions, leave her behind, it only gets worse for her till she turns cross – eyed.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 11, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Tell us how you really feel! Fortunately, my stunning mystery companion has a long history with abstruse foreign films and once acted as the projectionist for a showing of Salò, so I very seldom leave her behind. Gotta say this vastly improves our post-film conversations!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 12, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
You won’t be disappointed.
Pay attention.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 12, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
Noted!
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by RelapsingDawgCatcher on Jan 12, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
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