Scott Fujita Says That Colt McCoy Reminds Him of a Young Drew Brees
by Chris Pokorny on Oct 5, 2011 9:01 PM EDT
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Tsk tsk. What a teammate will say to stick up for his quarterback.
Cleveland Browns outside linebacker Scott Fujita was on the Bull & Fox show on 92.3 The Fan to talk about the team's disappointing loss to the Titans, and what he thinks of starting quarterback Colt McCoy. The bit about McCoy compared him to Drew Brees, arguably one of the best quarterbacks in the league today. What exactly about McCoy reminded him of Brees? Read on...
Do you think Colt McCoy is on the progression to possibly becoming like a Drew Brees or be as good as him?
"I don’t want to take any credit for this, but I think I was the first one locally to say that. I think last season when Colt McCoy first got the nod as the starter and it wasn’t so much the play at that point it was just watching the way he commanded the huddle and the way he commanded the respect of the guys in the lockerroom and the way he was such a natural leader. That was the thing that struck me the most being similar to Drew Brees. Drew is one of my best friends down there and played against his former team when he was with San Diego and I was with Kansas City. I got to know him really, really well over the years and Colt McCoy just reminded me of a young version of Drew Brees. Obviously he is going to keep growing as a player and keep getting better and better, but in terms of those intangible leadership qualities? Colt has got that."
The rest of Fujita's interview can be read here.
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Can we file this under “a smart veteran knowing what to say to build his young QB up on the radio?”
Obviously hope it’s more than that though.
Lets see how the season plays out. Still have two with Baltimore and Pittsburgh. These four games will tell a lot.
I am not that optimistic.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I don’t know, Pittsburgh is giving up a lot of hits on Big Ben.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
Sheldon Brown and Mike Adams trying to cover Mike Williams.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Yeah that guy.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Touche’, our secondary is not good outside of Haden in coverage.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
good job Fujita, our young QB needs a confidence booster and the veteran is gonna give it to him. He is a leader, and this is one reason why.
What you do is so loud no one hears what you say.
by allsides on Oct 5, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think this is a case of wishful thinking too on Fujita’s part. He wants to believe Colt will turn out like Brees because they have some similar characteristics but he really has no idea if Colt can continue to develop and then finally breakthrough as Brees did.
Come on….give Colt a break. It’s like Shurmur said….he is basically a rookie because he has to start in a whole new system this year. Colt is a winner and he will develop into a good QB. I truely believe that he can step it up to the next level. He just needs a bit more experience.
First of all, for being such a winner Colt sure loses a lot of games.
Second of all, it’s great that you believe it, but why are you so sure he’ll develop, why do you believe he can step it up?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Oct 6, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The kid does have a long history of winning in his favor at every level of football he’s played thus far other than this one, and he’s not the only QB to struggle for his first full year as a pro. Yes, analysts compared Colt to Brees early, but that was largely based on one physical factor: height. I’m willing to concede that Colt may never become Brees; I’m also willing to delay full judgment on whether that is or is not the case because it’s still early – not to mention a new system and coaches.
Even if Fujita’s just referencing Colt’s demeanor in the locker room, leadership style, and composure in the huddle being similar to Brees’s, that’s a positive sign that no analyst/commentator can legitimately claim to know to be true unless he’s played with both players, as Fujita has. I don’t claim to know Fujita’s motivation behind his statement, but I’m willing to assume that one possibility for his making such a statement is that he believes it to be true.
by chitown browns fan on Oct 6, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
The kid does have a long history of winning in his favor at every level of football he’s played thus far other than this one
So HS and college? This can be said about quite a few used car salesman across the country.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
True. But the really good ones who played QB at the highest level of college ball are mostly insurance salesmen.
by chitown browns fan on Oct 6, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i don’t think he’s making it up out of thin air, but it is certainly well timed and it’s not a stretch to think he’s embellishing a bit for everyone’s benefit.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 6, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Brees comparison, whether you think it is valid or invalid really doesn’t matter. In this day and age, no team can wait as long as it took Brees to have his break out year before they are forced to find a replacement.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 5, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
I disagree with this whole-heartedly.
by Uriah33 on Oct 5, 2011 10:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It took Drew Brees four or five years to become a good QB, and he didn’t really hit his stride until year six. That’s longer than the average coach gets.
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by notthatnoise on Oct 5, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Brees was very good his third year.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 5, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That was his fourth year, as I stated.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Yeah, but he sat most of his first year. He had a pretty good second year.
By the way, teams are still waiting on players for a long time — Chad Henne? Alex Smith? It’s just a function of circumstances whether and when you give up on a prospect. Some players fail so royally — see, eg., Quinn, Brady; Russell, Jamarcus — that you give up quicker. Others, like Henne, Smith, Brees, and possibly Colt, show flashes here and there so you hold out hope and/or you decide to address other needs because you don’t like any of the available QBs (Henne, Smith) or the guy you drafted holds out all camp (Brees getting the start his fourth year over Rivers), etc., etc. Sometimes it works out (Brees), usually it doesn’t. But then most QBs that get drafted, even in the first round, don’t work out and don’t turn into above-average starters in the NFL.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way, teams are still waiting on players for a long time — Chad Henne? Alex Smith?
Their original coaches are gone. That was the point here. The player may be able to turn it around eventually, but the coach won’t be there to find out.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Which is sort of nuts because you could say the guys with flashes are just squirrels finding an occasional nut while the really slow guys have the skills, they’re just waiting for the light bulb to go off. I still think if you put Russell in the right situation, and had patience, he could have been a player.
Brees would have gotten a lot more time if he didn’t have Rivers sitting right behind him.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I think the Chargers would have kept Brees if he didn’t get hurt in the last game of the regular season. He was having an amazing year that season.
i agree with you. the shoulder made their decision easy.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 7, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But in retrospect, it was a horrible decision. Brees came back better, and LT was still really, really good. They could have made a real run that year.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 7, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m not necessarily saying it was the right decision looking back, but the decision was super-easy at the time. brees was a risk to never play again.
but you’re right … if they hang onto brees that saints super bowl could really easily have been 1 or 2 in SD.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 7, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And his coach still would have gotten fired, which was the original point.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
in fairness, marty got fired b/c aj smith is a dick.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 7, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Drew Brees third season: 57.6%, 5.9 YPA, 11TDs, 15 INTS.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Yup, I was wrong. I follow the Chargers pretty closely so I should have known that.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s longer than the average coach gets
Exactly. A lot longer.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 6, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
translation….“Colt is short.”
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by discoinferno083 on Oct 5, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
i love this synergy between 92.3 and DBN…
My AM dial hasn’t worked in my car for 2 years, so shows like Bull and the Fox and Ken Carman have made life bearable when I can’t troll SB in my car.
I heard Fujita make the comment, and I can’t disagree with how he phrased it. He’s really pointing out Colt’s ability to rally the team at times on and off the field. No idea if Colt will ever be able to elevate his talent to a Brees/Rodgers type level, but I think Fujita has seen those signs of leadership in him, and that is usually an intangible you can’t teach.
when I can’t troll SB in my car.
So it’s been you!
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 5, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m all of the new members, just using different accounts. surprised nobody has caught on yet…
by bone_to_pick on Oct 5, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I know Fujita has to say something good about Colt, but I don’t think he has to say this specifically. I think it says something about the respect that Colt has from the team and their confidence in him, but obviously his play has to speak for itself.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Disregard this, as the question prompted Fujita about the Brees comparison.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Long story short…It would be nice for him to be playing like Drew Brees by the end of the year.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
What it comes down to and I’m speaking for the defense is big plays. That is one of the areas we’ve been so strong so far this season. If you let three or four big plays get behind you and you are going to loss every single time.
Well I think Joe Haden is growing into becoming really one of the premiere cover corners in the league. Just look at his ball skills. The plays he makes on the ball, disrupting passes, he gets to a point where he can shut down one side of the field. That’s impressive and he helps do so many things defensively, so hopefully we can get him back as quickly as possible.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Steelers
Ok off topic here but I see our Browns beating the Steelers once this year. I doubt we can win both but I see us beating the Steelers this year. Which would be a good sign for this team going forward. The Ravens will beat us both times. Thoughts?
i hate subject lines
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
by pwndabear on Oct 6, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
i hate the steelers.
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by Dawg Nuts on Oct 6, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I hate subject lines twice as much when they read, “Steelers”
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Oct 6, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I see you guys beating them twice this year…
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
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MADAM RUBY!!!???!?!?
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
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by North Coast Flea on Oct 6, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hate the ravens.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
i’m a fan of all things cleveland, and someone asked me the other day if i hate #6 for the heat or the ravens more. i think my answer at this very second is #6, but ask me again in 10 years … it’ll definitely be the ravens. #6 will be retired and out of sight/mind soon enough. the ravens will always be around to remind me of that bullshit.
by the way, as an early college graduation present, i got to go to the super bowl. i got the tickets in, like, october and was so jacked to go to my first-ever super bowl … and then i had to watch the ravens win it in tampa in 2001. talk about a kick in the nards…
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 7, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know Drew Brees. I don’t know Colt McCoy. Interestingly, Scott Fujita knows them both. If he wants to say Colt reminds him of Drew then who am I to question that.
I recognize he is not going to answer the question with a negative tone, but he certainly did not have to be glowing with the remark.
My hope is this if Colt does not prove himself by the end of this year . . . Rams go 2-14 or something and get the first pick. In that case, I would think they would say, f—k it, we are taking Luck, and we are auctioning off Sam Bradford. We then trade our two number ones (one this year and one next) along with some other stuff for Bradford. Or, if the Rams say they will keep Bradford, we trade both of our number ones this year, plus our number one next year, plus some other stuff for Luck.
That’s my plan and I am sticking to it.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
And to preempt questions about why we would trade a lot for a starting QB who could only lead his team to such a sh!tty record his second season, I have two words for you: Josh McDaniels.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i literally cannot wait to see the stupid things McDaniel’s does next.
however, he’s the OC isn’t he? not head coach?
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by discoinferno083 on Oct 7, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking out this situation exactly as you did.
I’m in.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We still need a true #1 WR. Andrew Luck or Colt McCoy I don’t see our offense being successful until we get that player.
by BornAKardiacKid on Oct 6, 2011 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you really believe Luck = Manning at this point?
by SBP on Oct 6, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And if he’s not, there’s Blackmon.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
With our luck (no pun intended), Blackmon will be drafted exactly one pick before us.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
boooo… not again.
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by discoinferno083 on Oct 7, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally I think that Colt has at least proven himself capable of being a decent stop gap QB solution… something we haven’t had in a while and something that IMO is being undervalued big time.
You and many others would have us continue to throw all of our best assets at trying to find our “Peyton Manning”, the reality is that there are very, very few guys out there capable of that level of play, and more importantly, its almost impossible to figure out who those guys are before they actually are producing at that level.
While you are throwing all resources into that endless project, I’ll take those top 2-3 picks and get us another lockdown corner to pair with Haden and a stud RT to give us possibly the best O line in the league. At the same time, I’m maximizing the value out of our 2010 3rd round pick by having him serve as a decent stop gap QB and allowing us to build up the rest of the team. A luxury we haven’t had for awhile.
2-3 years down the line, we’ve got a perennial division title contender, with a big question as to whether or not our QB can take us all the way to SB champs. But who knows, maybe by then with better playmakers around him and a studly OL and continuity in the coaching staff, Colt has developed into a top 10-15 QB. If not, maybe another chance to acquire an upgrade has presented itself.
Either way, 2-3 years down the line, we’ve got a perennial division title contender.
I think that’s the main point. You all are trying to figure out how we are going to win a SB, when we haven’t even been respectable. Let’s become a playoff team first.
Either way, 2-3 years down the line, we’ve got a perennial division title contender.
Name me some perennial division contenders without a legitimate franchise QB.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
BUFFALO! Oh… wait.
CINCY! Oh… wait.
I’ll think of one don’t you worry.
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by SpecialBrownie on Oct 6, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Eli Manning count? What is a franchise QB to you? Top 5? Top 10?
What if...
by Danieldelamaiz on Oct 6, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Romo is in the same boat, either in the playoffs or in the hunt for one several of the past years. Any of the NFC West teams right now, fastest rebuild wins. Chicago has done it with defense.
What if...
by Danieldelamaiz on Oct 6, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
romo’s teams have won exactly 1 playoff game.
culter is pretty good.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 6, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cutler just got there, they were making playoffs without him. And the question was division contenders, not playoff success.
What if...
by Danieldelamaiz on Oct 6, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This really depends on your definition of a “franchise QB”.
I’d put the Jets, Ravens, Bears, Titans and Giants all in the category of having very solid, playoff contending teams nearly every year without top 10 QBs.
With the exception of the Titans, we’d all be happy if Colt turned out to be as successful as any the QBs on the teams you named. None of those teams are dealing with “stop-gap” solutions (as you termed it) — they all committed to their QB long term. You may disagree with them, but they have done so.
We will know by the end of the year if Colt is worth committing to. If he’s not, coming out of the first round of next year’s draft with just Sam Bradford — my best-case scenario if Colt is not worth it — would be pretty damn great. I’d easily trade both of our first round picks for Bradford if we think that Colt is not it. No doubt. And I know two other guys who really love Bradford — Mike Holmgren and Pat Shurmur.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and not coincidentally, the Titans are the one team you named that have not been consistent playoff contenders year-in and year-out.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I think difficulty of comparison may be stifling my argument a little.
*I feel safe in saying Colt will be a QB in the 10-20 range of hypothetical rankings during the next 3-4 years if we allow him to be.
*Sanchez/Flacco,Dilfer,all other garbage in between/Grossman,Orton/Vince Young/Eli Manning all were/are in this range of QB caliber on successful playoff teams over a period of at least a couple years.
This is all to back up my point that you do not need a top 10 QB to be a contender, therefore I see more value in a non-superstar McCoy than you do.
Also, I believe that the opportunity cost of giving up multiple 1st/2nd rounders is greater for us now than it has been in the past (when there was a lower % chance that we would hit on those picks) and it will be in the future (when we hopefully don’t have as many holes to fill).
I also think that investing in a QB is more of a crapshoot than other positions that are a little easier to project, and a miss doesn’t set your franchise back as much.
but the marginal return on a qb is much greater than any other position, and maybe greater than any two other positions we can cover in the 1st and 2nd rounds.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 6, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally do not think that the value added from Colt to Bradford is more than what a 1st round RT and CB, for example, would do for us. Make one of the 1st rounders a #1 WR instead if you prefer. Either way, those can address our teams biggest weaknesses. We already have a nearly league average QB so the marginal value added is not as great.
the qb, quite literally, makes the entire team better. if you upgrade from mccoy, even if he’s at league average, the return is significantly greater than upgrading sheldon brown, in my opinion.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 6, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that QBs are a crapshoot and that giving up multiple 1st’s is a big risk (see Brady Quinn), but if you have the chance to get Luck, it’s worth the big risk. Also, Bradford has proven himself to be a QB worth investing in long-term. If, my hypothetical scenario played itself out, leaving the first round next year with only Sam Bradford would be awesome in my opinion.
Again, this is all a huge if, and it requires the Rams to finish last in the NFL, which I think is unlikely. But if the Rams do get the first pick, we would have a unique opportunity. The Rams are either going to auction off Luck or Bradford I would think.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, I understand this whole thing is hypothetical, and we also don’t really know what the asking price would be, but I have no doubt that if Bradford were available at any point, our FO will at least be in the conversation.
It seems like the difference between us really is our view of Colt. We both understand the importance of QB’s (although I’ve spent my time arguing against the absolute necessity of a top guy, there is no question that it is the most important individual piece to the puzzle.. by far), value of 1st round picks and see the problems with evaluating and acquiring top flight QB talent.
If we were to get Luck/Bradford in the hypothetical, what happens to Colt? Backup? To me, that’s a big waste of an asset and that’s the type of thing we can’t afford to do. There are plenty of teams that would take Colt in a second right now over the situation that they have.
i think you answered your own question. you move colt out if we end up w/ luck/bradford. that actually adds to my point from above, which is that you make a league average qb available, which is likely to bring back a meaningful 1) pick or 2) cb/rt, etc.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 6, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Bradford has proven himself to be a QB worth investing in long-term
I tend to believe in Bradford just from my gut and having seen him in college (about equally to my gut belief in McCoy…).
But I am curious what you base this statement on. Bradford’s stats this year so far are really pretty bad. Again, as I said I am a believer in Bradford. But its hard for me to see how he has, as you say proven himself as a long-term elite QB worthy of two 1st round picks (plus additional picks as you suggest…).
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by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 6, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s completely changed offenses this year, and I just don’t think McDaniels is the right guy for him. Also, it’s a sophomore slump. I know what I saw last year, and I think Bradford has got it.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 7, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t McD have a reputation for making QBs play above their level though?
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by North Coast Flea on Oct 7, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with everything you just said, but in your eariler comment you did use the phrase “has proven himself” (as a QB worth trading two 1st round picks + etc.). This was all I was questioning.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Bradford is in a bad spot right now, but I also think that within a few years he will be one of the premier QBs in the league.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 7, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
(… I just don’t think he has necessarily proven himself, yet, worthy of trading away two first round picks for)
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by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 7, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions
HArder schedule and horribel receivers. Bradford has actually played ok, I have watched a few games. There was something like 11 drops by WRs in the game against the Redskins.
Agree with everything you just said. I think Bradford will be good.
As I said, all I was disagreeing with was the “has proven himself to be a QB worth investing in long-term” part – where TDSH implies he has proven he is worth two 1st round picks + (additional picks).
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 7, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
horrible receivers
Interesting how some folks around here are quite willing to use this defense of Bradford’s performance, but when discussing McCoy what I usually hear is things like “The Rams did all right last year with some really bad receivers”, or “It’s possible to succeed without wideouts, you just need a great QB”, etc. :-/
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 7, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I still believe that to be true, I just think in Bradford’s case with the injuries they have suffered in the WR corps, that they truly have one of the worst WR groups in a long time.
I do also think the bigger difference is the more challenging schedule this year compared to last.
Agree with everything you just said. I think Bradford will be good.
As I said, all I was disagreeing with was the "has proven himself to be a QB worth investing in long-term" part – where TDSH implies he has proven he is worth two 1st round picks + (additional picks).
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 7, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Part of the equation for us is not having a go-to guy. But Bradford does some things that Colt doesn’t do, though I’ll admit SSS in watching Bradford this year.
He seems more comfortable with the protections, with setting his team up for success pre-snap.
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Ravens.
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by discoinferno083 on Oct 7, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Dallas.
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by discoinferno083 on Oct 7, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, Ryan Fitzpatrick (this year), Big Ben his first year
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on Oct 7, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
qb can be a late addition to a good team, but you absolutely need a good qb to be a great team. if you think you can get the qb to put you over the hump, you take him. whether the team is good yet or not.
by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 6, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly my point.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 6, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Zing, haha!
Even though I think TDSH makes a reasonably good case, have to admit this was pretty funny.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Oct 6, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Fujita needs under armor. I can see his crack. I mean, it’s the first thing that loads on my screen.
In Golan we trust.
It reminds me of Pro Bowl Alex Mack.
Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73
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