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Shurmur: Update on Hardesty's Chances of Playing, Browns Haven't Won a Coin Toss Yet

In his Wednesday press conference, Cleveland Browns head coach Pat Shurmur met with the local media and provided what seemed to be some more encouraging news about running back Montario Hardesty and his chances of contributing this week. He was also asked about the Browns being 0-for-9 on coin tosses to start off games, among other things. [Read full press conference transcript here]

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(On if Hardesty has a chance to play Sunday)- "I think he does.  Again, we’ll know more based on how he progresses today and tomorrow so we’ll see.  I know he’s anxious to get back out there and I think he’s looking forward to being healthy again.  It’s just a matter of when he can do it physically."

(On taking a cautious approach with bringing Hardesty back)- "I think it’s important that we make sure he’s right before we put him out there.  I think that’s the case with any injury and a running back dealing with a calf strain, I think that’s probably the same."

(On if Hardesty would be full go if he could play)- "I don’t think he’ll have the number of carries he had in some of the games, but if he’s ready to go we’ll use him.  We’ll try to get him back in the flow."

(On how far Hillis is away from practicing)- "It’s hard to say right now.  Maybe as soon as next week, I can’t tell you that exactly, but it may be a couple more.  We’ll just have to see how this thing progresses, but I know he’s working extremely hard to get back.  I know he’s really attacking the rehab and keeping his strength up. He’s doing what he can do behind the scenes to get ready."

(On Dimitri Patterson coming back from injury)- "He looked good yesterday running around.  He actually made a lot of plays.  He finds a way to get his hands on the ball and it was good to see him out there.  I think he felt good after practice, your first day back you are curious as to if there’s soreness that develops. I think he felt good so we’ll get him one day closer."

(On if Jayme Mitchell being active, but not playing last Sunday)- "Emmanuel (Stephens) came in and did a nice job. We had him and Auston (English) basically in backups roles in case we needed them. Jayme will be up and ready to go."

(On if he has a positive or negative interaction with Browns fans when he does go out)- "I’m sure there’s a little bit of both.  There are people that are encouraging and then there’s also folks that may be a little bit frustrated.  It’s just part of it.  I think I understand it. I think I do and I appreciate everybody’s passion and I think I get it."

(On the team being 0 and 9 on the coin toss this year)- "Really? Wow, I didn’t think of that.  I probably should know that.  0 and 9 really?"

(On the team that wins the coin toss having a slightly higher percentage of winning the game)- "Wins the actually game? Well, then we better win the coin toss (joking)."

(On if there’s any advantage to have the ball at the beginning of the game)- "We did do a study on that when I was back in Philadelphia.  It was one of those long winter weeks I guess so we’re deciding what to do and we did a study. I don’t know how they got the information, but it was so meaningless, the difference about whether you have the ball first to start the game or first to start the second half whether you win the game or not.  I do know statistically you always talk about winning the fourth quarter, it’s very, very important.  But, statistically if you can get ahead in the game that’s where you give yourself a better chance, statistically."

(On they would take the ball if they ever won a coin toss)- "Oh yeah.  Sure, absolutely."

(On if they need to practice the coin toss)- "We’ll have a meeting about the coin toss (joking). I don’t think we are going to do that. "

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Browns being 0-for-9 on coin tosses to start off games

Boooooooooo! SHURMUR SUX! MANGINI NEVER WOULD HAVE LOST COIN TOSSES!!!!!!

by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 17, 2011 6:21 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

What’s worse is SHURMUR DIDN’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS!

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by Chris Pokorny on Nov 17, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Hey, just be happy they sent out the right personnel.

by jonnyphoenix on Nov 17, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d hate to have a backup TE calling heads or tails if he’d never practiced it before!

by Legoman0721 on Nov 17, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Problem is our guys always call out Heads you win, Tails we lose.

by champion64 on Nov 17, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The players aren’t at fault. They aren’t allowed to audible in that situation.

by tribe71 on Nov 18, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

the odds of us losing 9 coin tosses in a row is 1:511

man, we take take the term “suck” to a whole new level.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by pwndabear on Nov 17, 2011 6:57 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I am sure some will say well we did not really lose 9 coin tosses we only lost the four we called. the other 5 were WON by the visiting team! HA

by champion64 on Nov 17, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s just that kind of year.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 18, 2011 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

There was no OTA’s for this. What do we really expect to happen?

I heard coin toss practice was the next topic at Camp Colt before the lock out ended.

by SBP on Nov 18, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

In addition to understanding and battling, Shurmur is also an experienced thinker.

Dawgs By Nature: Where we're about one loss away from Jonestowning ourselves.

by Adrock2099 on Nov 17, 2011 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

Statistically, at least, statistically.

In Golan we trust.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 17, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats the general opinion of y’all when you would want the ball (start or half)? I’ve always thought getting it after half is much more beneficial because you either can further separate a lead (not likely for the browns) or shorten your deficit. When your offense is as bad as the browns, esp in the 1st and 3rd qtr I guess it doesnt matter that much…

by -bobby- on Nov 18, 2011 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

Assuming your defense is half decent I prefer to defer also. You then have a good shot at controlling field position in the first drive by stopping their offense and hopefully getting the ball back somewhere decent. If you are on offense first, even if you have an OK drive and get out to the 50, you’re still in good shape field position wise but its still a bummer that you were stopped.

by HenryDawg on Nov 18, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You generally want your best unit out on the field first. An explosive offense can score off the bat, a stout defense can force a 3 and out. Either can give your team momentum to start off the game.

Another theory is that you want your defense out there first so the offense has time to calm the nerves.

by Brownie's Year on Nov 18, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If you feel good about your offense and your openers, you can put your offense out there to try to set the tempo. If you score, you put the pressure on the other team to score. If you can put the other team in a 14-0 hole early, you could change the way the game is going to be played.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 19, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

How do you NOT KNOW that your team is 0-9 on coin tosses as a head coach…my god.

by Eltone on Nov 19, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

The coin toss is the LEAST of your worries when you’re a HC. It doesn’t mean jack sh*t. The HC doesn’t ask “Who won the toss?”. It really doesn’t matter. I have no problem with Shurmur not knowing the “stats” of the coin tosses. All Shurmur wants to know is who is going on the field first.

by Brownie's Year on Nov 19, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, but your comment is f*cking irritating.

by Brownie's Year on Nov 19, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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