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Shurmur Talks About Why the Team Released Robiskie, and More

Cleveland Browns head coach Pat Shurmur met with the media prior to Wednesday's practice and talked about several things. One of the obvious questions that reporters had was why wide receiver Brian Robiskie was released. Shurmur also talked about whether Joe Haden will cover Andre Johnson if he plays this Sunday, among other things.

Side notes: Peyton Hillis did not take part in practice on Wednesday, even though Shurmur said they would try to have him out there in some capacity. Also, the ABJ reports that Artis Hicks was also taking some snaps at right tackle with the first-team offense (as was Tony Pashos). [Read full press conference transcript here]

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(On releasing Brian Robiskie)- "I talked about it yesterday, this is a time of year and we’ve had injuries at running back and then we have to make a roster move. Then you look at your roster and you say, ‘There’s nobody we want to release.’ I like Brian, I have a great deal of respect for him but based on how the roster was shaped we had to make a move to bring in a runner and we made a decision to part ways.  But, we wish him the best and we’re hopeful that he’s playing football soon for somebody."

(On why Robiskie never panned out)- "I don’t know.  He competed with the other receivers and I felt like he was given his opportunities to play and again, you just make decisions.  Again, I like Brian.  He’s an NFL receiver so we’re hopeful he has a place to go."

(On if Chris Gocong will practice today)- "He’ll be out there today, he’ll practice."

(On if Joe Haden will be matched up with Andre Johnson one-on-one or if Johnson’s injury precludes them from doing that)- "We’ll have the ability to do both depending who they line up with, but I’m glad Joe Haden’s playing.  We’ve all watched him have a great first half of the year and he’s a pro.  He started out and had some outstanding games, fought back from injury already and it’s enjoyable to watch him practice.  I’ll leave some of the schematics until Sunday in terms of how we’re going to defend the Texans, but if Andre Johnson’s out there I think Joe Haden probably won’t be far away I would imagine."

(On how Andre Johnson impact’s their offense)- "When you have an explosive playmaker, you have to put a lot of thought in to how you’re going to defend a team, especially a team that runs the ball extremely well.  It’s frequently talk about, the numbers.  You put an extra guy down or you commit seven and a half or eight guys to the line of scrimmage and the coverage gets one-on-one.  But with a guy like Andre, you’ve got to be aware he is.  He is no question one of the best receivers in the league and has been for a long time. He means a lot to their offense.  When he’s in the game they try to get him the ball, which is a very smart on their part."

(On why they decided to sign Thomas Clayton)- "There are reasons why, but he was a guy that’s been, even though he hasn’t played a bunch, he’s been around.  We had some familiarity with him and went that route.  We discussed many guys, but at this time of year, there’s some limitations in terms of who you can get."

(On how much he can expect Clayton to learn from Tuesday to Sunday)- "Obi (Chris Ogbonnaya) did it in three days so that’s the time frame.  He’ll be in there playing, he’s active, he’ll be in there playing so I expect him to learn it. We’re answering some of the questions that we posed earlier.  You’ve got to just be careful how much you give him, but you’ve got to give him enough for him to go in there and be able to execute."

(On if it is against their philosophy to bring in veteran wide receiver like Brandon Lloyd or T.J. Houshmandzadeh)- "I wouldn’t say that.  We’re always looking for any and all ways to improve our team.  Now there are a lot of things that happen behind the scenes and we understand how our team is built.  My job is to get the team better and fight to win games.  Through the draft, free agency or whatever we do what we can to improve our team in ways that we can.  You mentioned a couple of specific receivers and we go through and talk about everybody that’s available and try to make decisions based on what’s best for our team."

(On if Ogbonnaya played every snap after Hardesty got hurt)- "There were a couple downs where I stuck Owen (Marecic) in there."

(On if why Lawrence Vickers was not brought back)- "We made the decision to move forward and we drafted Owen.  I think from what I’ve seen, he’s been somewhat limited in his snaps down there, but when he’s in the game he’s doing well for him.  We just made the decision to move on and we drafted Owen."

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I have a question for Shurmer. If you had so much confidence to give Armond Smith the ball on a 4th and 2, and hes still on your practice squad, why would you bring in Clayton whos sitting at home to play this week? If this a knock on Smith? And what happened to the RB who Smith beat out in camp (sorry I am lazy and forgetful right now)? Why not bring someone whos used to this team in to play this week.

by -bobby- on Nov 2, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I have to guess Smith is too small to block and pick up the blitz on 3rd down.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Nov 2, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point regarding Smith. As for Quinn Porter (?), the guy who Smith beat out, he’s the Rams’s return guy, I think.

by chitown browns fan on Nov 3, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is awesome. i love this comment.

by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m very glad Haden will be out there covering Johnson. I just hope don’t see anymore of these bogus PI penalties on him.

Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73

by Doc's Kid on Nov 2, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Once he makes the pro bowl and starts to build up his reputation, you won’t see them. Revis gets away with a lot that other people can’t, same with Nnamdi, same with Champ.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just had a Mooncamping moment.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill

by JustBob on Nov 2, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

brilliant.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Nov 2, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m glad the media is FINALLY confronting Shurmur with specific questions ( robiskie, veteran WR’s, vickers).

I’m not glad that he is evading the questions.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Nov 2, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Which questions? The only question I see him brush off is the one about Vickers… probably because he could care less.

 I don’t see the purpose in asking it at this point. I liked Vickers, but it’s an old topic by now.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Nov 3, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those should be questions for the GM a bit more than the coach though.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 3, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now there are a lot of things that happen behind the scenes and we understand how our team is built.

This was the most telling part to me. This coaching staff and front office are using this year to find out what we have, and build through the draft.

by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 2, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

OL, WR, and RB are top priorities.

by lightninmcqueen on Nov 3, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would put LB before RB at this point. Fujita is slow and old.

 Unless Hillis gets run out of town, of course.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Nov 3, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would put QB ahead of LB and RB. I think RT/QB/WR are all legit arguments for the top need. I dont know if you can say LB is up there, bc Maiava looks like a starter next year and Titus Brown is a good back-up to DQ (if we resign him). I would say more quality depth at DL and interior OL after our top 3 main concerns.

by -bobby- on Nov 3, 2011 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby, you couldn’t be more wrong! CB, DE, LB, & OL are our priorities. Our D needs to get fleshed out with the proper talent, and our OL needs to get refilled.

Dixon & Minnefield - Enough Said!

by J. W. on Nov 3, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our defense is fine. You’re trying to build a perfect team, it can’t be done.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 3, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s right if you’re looking down the road. CB and LB are big needs.

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by Brownie's Year on Nov 3, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no question. but you can only take on so many problems at a time.

by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

we have way more problems on offense than we do on defense right now.

by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree JW. I’d rather see us become a team that beats you at the line of scrimmage. We need to build an identity as a franchise. Something that we hang our hats on. I want that identity to be an offense that beats you at the line of scrimmage, and a defense that will smash you. It’s worked for a few of our recently successful rivals.

by Uwe Blog on Nov 4, 2011 1:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

rufio this just got me thinking are you going to post your game reviews still?

by -bobby- on Nov 3, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprising about Lauvao getting up to block… that’s a good sign. However I saw Greco do this on a nice run play the last game on one of his first snaps.

Really in need of more consistency all around.

"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur

by LocalMan on Nov 3, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t had time to do anything that through in the past few weeks. Family issues.

I’ll have something up today or tomorrow though.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve got a question for you. Are screens not a part of shurmur’s offense, or, is the offense not executing these types of plays well enough to not be put in the gameplan. It seems to me, that screens would slow down the pass-rush. And when we did utilize the screen, it worked really well.

by athensdawg on Nov 3, 2011 9:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We’ve tried them. We ran a few good ones against Indy, where they were a big part of the gameplan.

The problem is that a screen is purely a constraint play; it only works when the defense helps you out. For every “normal” run or pass play, there’s a way to make it work on paper. Screens never work on paper, they only work when a defense is too aggressive.

I think we’ll see a good amount of screens if we play a 4-3 team with DEs who like to get up the field quickly. Or if we have to pass 61 times per game to win again. But with our RB injury situation and people playing so much tight coverage on our WRs, I don’t think we’ll see screens more than 3 times per game.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was an article on clevelandbrowns.com that talked about how blitz happy Houston is. The article focused on how that could help us get passes to the TEs,but would the screens work in that situation?

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill

by JustBob on Nov 3, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we run some screens like Buffalo does towards the middle of the field, it would work brilliantly provided Colt can time it correctly.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 3, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, man. You had to throw a condition on there. I was hoping for a silver bullet. Seriously, if what Rufio said about Colt looking like he’s getting better with his timing is true then I look forward to the attempt. Hopefully it works and opens the defense up to being hurt some other way as well.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill

by JustBob on Nov 3, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screens can really hurt a defense that is aggressively sending players at the QB. The problem is that you have to know who is coming, or have a quick and easy choice to make for the QB. That’s why it’s a perfect playcall vs the Colts, because Freeney and Mathis are coming every time. We can probably count on Super Mario coming at us a whole bunch, and Houston’s DL. But teams usually move to the 3-4 to be able to have more flexibility up front and to create confusion.

Our Guards are particularly bad at figuring out who to block. If it’s clear pre-snap, they can get the job done. But if Houston is bringing people from different places, it might be difficult.

It’s always cat and mouse in football. Defense brings one thing, offense can counter with something else. Even when teams have something seemingly impossible to stop (Oregon, Oklahoma St, Texas Tech, Hawaii and West Virginia’s offenses recently) there’s always an answer out there. Talent is always an answer.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see the good things too. Colt made a couple nice timing throws to Norwood, and was able to make some plays with his feet.

The problem is these things are far too inconsistent. He still doesn’t do pre-snap well, and he makes some DA decisions out there. Those good plays are nice and all, but even Brady Quinn made some good plays.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was more consistent with his rhythm than he had been against the Raiders, Dolphins, or Seahawks. I think they were called plays and not audibles, but he took some free, cheap yards that defenses gave us by alignment.

It’s definitely not enough to put me back on the “we’ve found our guy” bandwagon, but he played a pretty solid game. One huge and untimely mistake.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a bunch of positives also. But just like NTN said, way too inconsistent.

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by Brownie's Year on Nov 3, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the whole he played much better than the recent weeks

Agreed. He just needs to keep improving week by week. Its just seven games in, he’s still learning and settling in to Shurmur’s new “system” (if you can call it that). But I do believe he will continue to improve.

Just hoping everything else doesn’t crumble around him (the RB situation, MoMass, o-line steps it up a notch / Pashos doesn’t go down to injury, etc.), and Shurmur can put together some semblance of an identity and rhythm for this offense.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 3, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems to trust Norwood. And Little, despite the 9million drops.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like Obgyannalana might also turn into a good option out of the backfield. Seems to me like he’s got pretty good hands and moves really well once he finds a little open space.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 3, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Colt already knows Obi, and you have to build a repore with your WR’s. Making the Robo decision was good, though there are a few more players that need to go. We finish building up the defense, and go for OL, our QB & WR situation will pan out.

Dixon & Minnefield - Enough Said!

by J. W. on Nov 3, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you figure that colt already knows obi and yet he needs to build w/ the wr’s? obi’s been a brown for 51 minutes.

by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

they played together at Texas

by BrutalMovement on Nov 4, 2011 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Obi set the UT record for receptions and/or receiving yards by a RB (with Colt playing QB).

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 4, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said this about Shipley before the season started and it holds here too. You have to get to know a guy within an offense, and Oingo Boingo is new to this offense.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 4, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a homer. But I agree.

by HenryDawg on Nov 3, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

We motioned him out wide and Colt threw him a nice rhythm pass before he came out of his break. He was right where he needed to be and right on time.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I rec’d this just as much for the awesome name as for the Star Wars reference.

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by Adrock2099 on Nov 3, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i rec’d this for recc’ing my post

Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.

by pwndabear on Nov 4, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think from what I’ve seen, he’s been somewhat limited in his snaps down there

Bet when Simms read this he wanted to punch a wall. Shurmur just trolled him.

In Golan we trust.

by SpecialBrownie on Nov 3, 2011 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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