Shurmur Talks About Why the Team Released Robiskie, and More
Cleveland Browns head coach Pat Shurmur met with the media prior to Wednesday's practice and talked about several things. One of the obvious questions that reporters had was why wide receiver Brian Robiskie was released. Shurmur also talked about whether Joe Haden will cover Andre Johnson if he plays this Sunday, among other things.
Side notes: Peyton Hillis did not take part in practice on Wednesday, even though Shurmur said they would try to have him out there in some capacity. Also, the ABJ reports that Artis Hicks was also taking some snaps at right tackle with the first-team offense (as was Tony Pashos). [Read full press conference transcript here]
(On releasing Brian Robiskie)- "I talked about it yesterday, this is a time of year and we’ve had injuries at running back and then we have to make a roster move. Then you look at your roster and you say, ‘There’s nobody we want to release.’ I like Brian, I have a great deal of respect for him but based on how the roster was shaped we had to make a move to bring in a runner and we made a decision to part ways. But, we wish him the best and we’re hopeful that he’s playing football soon for somebody."
(On why Robiskie never panned out)- "I don’t know. He competed with the other receivers and I felt like he was given his opportunities to play and again, you just make decisions. Again, I like Brian. He’s an NFL receiver so we’re hopeful he has a place to go."
(On if Chris Gocong will practice today)- "He’ll be out there today, he’ll practice."
(On if Joe Haden will be matched up with Andre Johnson one-on-one or if Johnson’s injury precludes them from doing that)- "We’ll have the ability to do both depending who they line up with, but I’m glad Joe Haden’s playing. We’ve all watched him have a great first half of the year and he’s a pro. He started out and had some outstanding games, fought back from injury already and it’s enjoyable to watch him practice. I’ll leave some of the schematics until Sunday in terms of how we’re going to defend the Texans, but if Andre Johnson’s out there I think Joe Haden probably won’t be far away I would imagine."
(On how Andre Johnson impact’s their offense)- "When you have an explosive playmaker, you have to put a lot of thought in to how you’re going to defend a team, especially a team that runs the ball extremely well. It’s frequently talk about, the numbers. You put an extra guy down or you commit seven and a half or eight guys to the line of scrimmage and the coverage gets one-on-one. But with a guy like Andre, you’ve got to be aware he is. He is no question one of the best receivers in the league and has been for a long time. He means a lot to their offense. When he’s in the game they try to get him the ball, which is a very smart on their part."
(On why they decided to sign Thomas Clayton)- "There are reasons why, but he was a guy that’s been, even though he hasn’t played a bunch, he’s been around. We had some familiarity with him and went that route. We discussed many guys, but at this time of year, there’s some limitations in terms of who you can get."
(On how much he can expect Clayton to learn from Tuesday to Sunday)- "Obi (Chris Ogbonnaya) did it in three days so that’s the time frame. He’ll be in there playing, he’s active, he’ll be in there playing so I expect him to learn it. We’re answering some of the questions that we posed earlier. You’ve got to just be careful how much you give him, but you’ve got to give him enough for him to go in there and be able to execute."
(On if it is against their philosophy to bring in veteran wide receiver like Brandon Lloyd or T.J. Houshmandzadeh)- "I wouldn’t say that. We’re always looking for any and all ways to improve our team. Now there are a lot of things that happen behind the scenes and we understand how our team is built. My job is to get the team better and fight to win games. Through the draft, free agency or whatever we do what we can to improve our team in ways that we can. You mentioned a couple of specific receivers and we go through and talk about everybody that’s available and try to make decisions based on what’s best for our team."
(On if Ogbonnaya played every snap after Hardesty got hurt)- "There were a couple downs where I stuck Owen (Marecic) in there."
(On if why Lawrence Vickers was not brought back)- "We made the decision to move forward and we drafted Owen. I think from what I’ve seen, he’s been somewhat limited in his snaps down there, but when he’s in the game he’s doing well for him. We just made the decision to move on and we drafted Owen."
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I have a question for Shurmer. If you had so much confidence to give Armond Smith the ball on a 4th and 2, and hes still on your practice squad, why would you bring in Clayton whos sitting at home to play this week? If this a knock on Smith? And what happened to the RB who Smith beat out in camp (sorry I am lazy and forgetful right now)? Why not bring someone whos used to this team in to play this week.
by -bobby- on Nov 2, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good point regarding Smith. As for Quinn Porter (?), the guy who Smith beat out, he’s the Rams’s return guy, I think.
by chitown browns fan on Nov 3, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
this is awesome. i love this comment.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m very glad Haden will be out there covering Johnson. I just hope don’t see anymore of these bogus PI penalties on him.
Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73
(On releasing Brian Robiskie)- “The troll is draining the loch. Robiskie will know what to do. But the mermaid can’t fetch Robiskie if I don’t release him first and bring her the jeweled comb.”
by jonnyphoenix on Nov 2, 2011 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
brilliant.
"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping
by discoinferno083 on Nov 2, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m glad the media is FINALLY confronting Shurmur with specific questions ( robiskie, veteran WR’s, vickers).
I’m not glad that he is evading the questions.
"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping
by discoinferno083 on Nov 2, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Now there are a lot of things that happen behind the scenes and we understand how our team is built.
This was the most telling part to me. This coaching staff and front office are using this year to find out what we have, and build through the draft.
OL, WR, and RB are top priorities.
by lightninmcqueen on Nov 3, 2011 12:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would put LB before RB at this point. Fujita is slow and old.
Unless Hillis gets run out of town, of course.
"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur
I would put QB ahead of LB and RB. I think RT/QB/WR are all legit arguments for the top need. I dont know if you can say LB is up there, bc Maiava looks like a starter next year and Titus Brown is a good back-up to DQ (if we resign him). I would say more quality depth at DL and interior OL after our top 3 main concerns.
Bobby, you couldn’t be more wrong! CB, DE, LB, & OL are our priorities. Our D needs to get fleshed out with the proper talent, and our OL needs to get refilled.
Dixon & Minnefield - Enough Said!
Our defense is fine. You’re trying to build a perfect team, it can’t be done.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
He’s right if you’re looking down the road. CB and LB are big needs.
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by Brownie's Year on Nov 3, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
no question. but you can only take on so many problems at a time.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
we have way more problems on offense than we do on defense right now.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree JW. I’d rather see us become a team that beats you at the line of scrimmage. We need to build an identity as a franchise. Something that we hang our hats on. I want that identity to be an offense that beats you at the line of scrimmage, and a defense that will smash you. It’s worked for a few of our recently successful rivals.
by Uwe Blog on Nov 4, 2011 1:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You know, re-watching this game, we did better than I thought. Especially Colt. Some very good reads and quicker decisions than he’s been making lately. Obviously, the decision to throw to Little in double coverage was horrible, and he can’t do that if we want to be competitive. But on the whole he played much better than the recent weeks.
SF was not playing “prevent” against us on several drives where Colt made good throws before the rush had a chance to get to him. Good “rhythm throws” off of the back foot in his drop, which always means good reads.
We aren’t going to win with this many drops, with this many fumbles, and with this bad of a running game, though. Our guards continue to play poorly, but I actually saw Lauvao get to the second level on a zone blocked play! Twice! (might have been the first time all year)
Upon further review, let’s not panic. We played an ok game against a good opponent. We made some key errors, and they didn’t really make any. I know I’ve thrown the word “awful” around a lot lately, but it hasn’t been that bad. We aren’t playing playoff caliber ball, but we also aren’t playing like a 4-12 team.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Nov 3, 2011 3:13 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I’ve got a question for you. Are screens not a part of shurmur’s offense, or, is the offense not executing these types of plays well enough to not be put in the gameplan. It seems to me, that screens would slow down the pass-rush. And when we did utilize the screen, it worked really well.
by athensdawg on Nov 3, 2011 9:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We’ve tried them. We ran a few good ones against Indy, where they were a big part of the gameplan.
The problem is that a screen is purely a constraint play; it only works when the defense helps you out. For every “normal” run or pass play, there’s a way to make it work on paper. Screens never work on paper, they only work when a defense is too aggressive.
I think we’ll see a good amount of screens if we play a 4-3 team with DEs who like to get up the field quickly. Or if we have to pass 61 times per game to win again. But with our RB injury situation and people playing so much tight coverage on our WRs, I don’t think we’ll see screens more than 3 times per game.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
There was an article on clevelandbrowns.com that talked about how blitz happy Houston is. The article focused on how that could help us get passes to the TEs,but would the screens work in that situation?
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
If we run some screens like Buffalo does towards the middle of the field, it would work brilliantly provided Colt can time it correctly.
Oh, man. You had to throw a condition on there. I was hoping for a silver bullet. Seriously, if what Rufio said about Colt looking like he’s getting better with his timing is true then I look forward to the attempt. Hopefully it works and opens the defense up to being hurt some other way as well.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
Screens can really hurt a defense that is aggressively sending players at the QB. The problem is that you have to know who is coming, or have a quick and easy choice to make for the QB. That’s why it’s a perfect playcall vs the Colts, because Freeney and Mathis are coming every time. We can probably count on Super Mario coming at us a whole bunch, and Houston’s DL. But teams usually move to the 3-4 to be able to have more flexibility up front and to create confusion.
Our Guards are particularly bad at figuring out who to block. If it’s clear pre-snap, they can get the job done. But if Houston is bringing people from different places, it might be difficult.
It’s always cat and mouse in football. Defense brings one thing, offense can counter with something else. Even when teams have something seemingly impossible to stop (Oregon, Oklahoma St, Texas Tech, Hawaii and West Virginia’s offenses recently) there’s always an answer out there. Talent is always an answer.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I see the good things too. Colt made a couple nice timing throws to Norwood, and was able to make some plays with his feet.
The problem is these things are far too inconsistent. He still doesn’t do pre-snap well, and he makes some DA decisions out there. Those good plays are nice and all, but even Brady Quinn made some good plays.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Nov 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He was more consistent with his rhythm than he had been against the Raiders, Dolphins, or Seahawks. I think they were called plays and not audibles, but he took some free, cheap yards that defenses gave us by alignment.
It’s definitely not enough to put me back on the “we’ve found our guy” bandwagon, but he played a pretty solid game. One huge and untimely mistake.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I saw a bunch of positives also. But just like NTN said, way too inconsistent.
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by Brownie's Year on Nov 3, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
on the whole he played much better than the recent weeks
Agreed. He just needs to keep improving week by week. Its just seven games in, he’s still learning and settling in to Shurmur’s new “system” (if you can call it that). But I do believe he will continue to improve.
Just hoping everything else doesn’t crumble around him (the RB situation, MoMass, o-line steps it up a notch / Pashos doesn’t go down to injury, etc.), and Shurmur can put together some semblance of an identity and rhythm for this offense.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 3, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He seems to trust Norwood. And Little, despite the 9million drops.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Seems like Obgyannalana might also turn into a good option out of the backfield. Seems to me like he’s got pretty good hands and moves really well once he finds a little open space.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 3, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Colt already knows Obi, and you have to build a repore with your WR’s. Making the Robo decision was good, though there are a few more players that need to go. We finish building up the defense, and go for OL, our QB & WR situation will pan out.
Dixon & Minnefield - Enough Said!
how do you figure that colt already knows obi and yet he needs to build w/ the wr’s? obi’s been a brown for 51 minutes.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 4, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe Obi set the UT record for receptions and/or receiving yards by a RB (with Colt playing QB).
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 4, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
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