"@TonyGrossi #Browns have waived snapper Ryan Pontbriand, confirms agent. End of an era on Browns special teams. Details on replacement to come.
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No no no, there have been multiple bad FG snaps this year—its just only two resulted in game losing (kinda, sorta) affairs.
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Nov 29, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t recall Maynard moving much to get any of the snaps.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 29, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
He seemed fine on punts, no arguing that. But FG attempts were becoming more and more of an adventure each week.
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Nov 29, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I still don’t recall Maynard moving much to get any of the snaps.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 29, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
MFW this is the fault of the front office canning Brad Seely and not Pontbriand.
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as a direct result of the actions of the FO
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 29, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Because they let Mangini go. Seely made his own choice.
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by The Licensed Optimist on Nov 29, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
The only way Seely was going to stay is if Mangini was.
That was never going to happen, so I don’t understand the constant hand wringing over a ST coach.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 29, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
considering the ST went from the best unit on the team to the worst unit on the team (and not b/c the offense and defense suddenly became all-world) in a single offseason, i can see why people would be frustrated.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 29, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Right, I understand the frustration, but it wasn’t like the Browns kicked Seely out, the guy left on his own.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 29, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, but it sucks to lose him. Wonder why an awesome special teams would be so heart set on staying with Mangini.
Ryan was the same way. For as much as people call Mangini an asshole, a lot of people seem loyal to him.
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by notthatnoise on Nov 30, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Or maybe it was Fujita who jinxed:
“I thought you were a professional…c’mon man, hit the target!!!”
by mister serious on Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I was considering buying a F of S T-shirt but my heart is a F of S on Sundays and most of Mondays so why bother? Cribbs is right. This sh— is getting old. Where is Mooncamping again?
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Nov 29, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
This is a terrible decision. He’s had a rough couple of games, but his track record precedes him here. To me, this is more of the arrogant policy of Shurmur/FO that special teams are easily replaceable (from letting Sealy go, leaving Phil dangling before the season, etc.).
I agree. This doesn’t really mean much but I question the necessity.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Nov 29, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Was mad with the guy, but he certainly didn’t deserve to be waived. Wonder if there’s more.
by DisplacedBuckeye on Nov 29, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions
perennial pro bowlers at that. shurmer’s WCO is waived, fan decision
November 6, 1995 is unforgiveable.
by WYBHaden? on Nov 29, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
There has to be more to this than meets the eye. I’ll wait until they say more before making judgment.
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by The Licensed Optimist on Nov 29, 2011 5:20 PM EST reply actions
It was a coaches’ decision.
That’s all we’ll get from Shurmur.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 29, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
Although, I’ll tell you, he looked pretty weird on the sideline after the bad snaps. Eyes closed and just kind of out of it.
You would be out of it too if you bowled a snap to the holder!!
by Brownie's Year on Nov 29, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Because 55 yard field goals are automatic.
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by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Christian Yount is our man now. Played for the Bucs for 8 games
I'm storming your castle on my steed, m'lady.
More bad news: Fujita and Emmanuel Stephens were placed on IR today.
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by The Licensed Optimist on Nov 29, 2011 6:22 PM EST reply actions
Last year, our D really struggled without Fuji. This one sucks.
by mister serious on Nov 29, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
bad knee, which is awesome. not sure if he’ll miss any time, but suffice it to say he won’t be at his most effective.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 30, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
So you go from the best LS in the NFL to the worst over 2 bad snaps
by The Licensed Pessimist on Nov 29, 2011 6:48 PM EST reply actions
and really it was just one bad snap. mack kicking the ball in the stl game … i mean, who do you blame for that? not pontbriand, right? at least not 100%.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 29, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Its actually several over the course of the season and it seemed to be getting worse. You can’t lose games because of your LS. I am sad, but its probably time to move on.
He had one bad snap that I’m aware of, and it happened Sunday.
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by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
I get why they released Pontbriand but I don’t have that strong of feelings. On one hand, he was a good player for the Browns and he would have been nice to keep. On the other, he was doing very poorly at times this year and his value is very replaceable.
I am not going to get worked up over this, Pontbriand’s contribution was so minimal, though I appreciate the service he has given to the Browns organization.
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He is a longsnapper. END TRANSMISSION.
by jonnyphoenix on Nov 29, 2011 7:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This just reeks of someone trying to displace blame.
We have this mess of a team and have a mess of a collapse and it’s the LS that gets waived on Tuesday? Give me a break. I’m all for accountability but it seems those that need to be held accountable aren’t and instead we’re busy cutting off warts from fingers when one side of the whole damn head is missing from a shotgun blast.
Mangini apologist by default.
I’m speaking about his innate accuracy, not how well that innate accuracy is translating on the field.
Well we’re not going to waive a rookie second round draft pick or McCoy and we’re not firing Shurmur. If you’re the long snapper its pretty clear what your job is. Deliver the ball to the holder quickly every single time. He has had some bad ones all year, he had some high ones that Maynard handled well but I don’t think it was going to get better. They needed to move on.
This is total revisionist history. I don’t know how many other games you watch, but nobody snaps the ball perfectly every time. I don’t remember seeing Maynard jumping after any balls.
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by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Well we’re not going to waive a rookie second round draft pick or McCoy and we’re not firing Shurmur. If you’re the long snapper its pretty clear what your job is.
I’m not asking for them to be waived. I’m saying hold them accountable. Don’t give me this it’s my understanding we battled chit. It’s my understanding Little dropped balls all over the damn field, Colt has been beyond mediocre (not specifically in the last game but over the entire year), and the Head Coach, well he’s the Head Coach.
Awesome, they needed to move on. Do we move on from the weak spots in our line but not signing any potential replacements in free agency this year? It was the worst kept secret that our O-line needed serious help as well as our WR unit. Nothing there, but a bad snap and you’re axed.
Hell, I don’t even care that Ponti was released, it’s not like he’s a superman FB. But hell, I want to see that same line of accountability drawn throughout the organization.
Mangini apologist by default.
I’m speaking about his innate accuracy, not how well that innate accuracy is translating on the field.
by Villeslgr on Nov 30, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d be fine for benching Little for a little bit and giving him less reps next week as a message,
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How about the benching of little until he doesn’t suck.
You think a message is what he needs?
by The Licensed Pessimist on Dec 1, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
isn’t the problem that if we benched everyone who sucked then we’d field like 3 guys on offense and 5 on defense?
by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 1, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I don’t really know if I’m wanting a benching. But hell Little has been doing this since the pre-season. Someone needs to let him know it’s not acceptable. And I’m not going to lie, when he dropped on of his last passes towards the end of the game and the camera zoomed in and you could see his face, I actually felt kind of sorry for him. It looked like he was really feeling bad out there.
Maybe the dude just can’t catch. He might be putting in all of the work but he just doesn’t have the skills needed to catch the ball well.
I don’t know, but considering he plays WR on a football team something needs to be done about his drops. I remember the hell Braylon got for his drops and I don’t think he was ever as bad as Little.
Mangini apologist by default.
I’m speaking about his innate accuracy, not how well that innate accuracy is translating on the field.
I feel bad for him too. He knows he screwed up, but in some way a message to him wouldn’t hurt.
In a way, maybe isn’t the cutting of Pontbriand possibly sending a message not only to him, but to everyone? Its showing that players WILL be held accountable for their play on the field.
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I already addressed that. You don’t send a message to a crappy team by cutting the long snapper and then not hold players accountable for their play on the field.
Mangini apologist by default.
I’m speaking about his innate accuracy, not how well that innate accuracy is translating on the field.
I agree.
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Collapse? What collapse? We all knew we weren’t going anywhere this season.
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by The Licensed Optimist on Nov 30, 2011 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Damn, if the licesenced optimist knew we weren’t going anywhere this season, we are all hopeless.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 30, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m talking about the collapse in the game on Sunday. It’s my opinion that we did not lose that game because of a bad snap. Nor did we lost the Rams game because of a bad snap.
Mangini apologist by default.
I’m speaking about his innate accuracy, not how well that innate accuracy is translating on the field.
i think champ64 has a single theory that would cover the reasons that we lost both of those games…
by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 1, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
OT: OSU basketball is the real deal. We crushed Duke’s face tonight. They’re a good team, but we’re worlds better.
Dawgs By Nature - Where winning, apparently, did some bad things.
This team looks better than the team with Oden/Conley/etc…
This team is so much better offensively. that team didn’t have a scorer like Buford and Sully is better than Oden offensively.
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it’s early yet, but my concern with this osu team versus the oden/conley squad is depth.
by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 1, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
yeah. Those guys didn’t become solid depth right away so there is a chance guys like Ravenel can become solid depth.
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