Texans Jump Out to Quick Lead, Dominate Browns 30-12
I don't think of the Cleveland Browns' offense as being "Brady Quinn-bad," but maybe that is because I don't want to believe things have gotten that low. When you take at the past five games, the offense has been terrible (is it a coincidence that this period goes hand-in-hand with the loss of running back Peyton Hillis)? Forget first quarter struggles; the Browns have only had one offensive touchdown in the first half in their past five games. Let's get to the full review of the game...
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WEEK 9 - CLEVELAND BROWNS VS. HOUSTON TEXANS (COMPLETE GAME REVIEW)
- Goat of the Week: WR Greg Little - In the absence of Hillis, this offense really needed someone to step up. It had looked like Little was well on his way to doing that, but I've been pretty disappointed with his production since he became a starter. Colt McCoy definitely is not helping matters, but it is alarming how bad the target-to-catch ratio has been for Little. Against Houston, Little was targeted 8 times but only had 2 catches for 33 yards. The week before that against the 49ers, Little was targeted 11 times but only had 4 catches for 28 yards.
Against the Texans, Little did not bring in an early third-down pass that I felt he should have had. He also continues to look pretty awkward when McCoy delivers the ball deep down the sideline to him. He did catch one of McCoy's short heaves, but we need to see Little be the consistent receiver he was earlier this season. And then, there was also the interception miscommunication before the end of the first half.
- Awarding Game Balls: WR Joshua Cribbs - Two of the Browns' scores were set up by or involved Cribbs. He tried to jump start the offense early with his longest kick return of the season, but the Browns were only able to manage a field goal out of it. Toward the end of the fourth quarter, Cribbs caught a touchdown pass from Colt McCoy down near the goal line. He was targeted five catches and caught the ball every time. He was also involved heavily on kickoff coverage, notching two special teams tackles and one assist. Full game ball award given here.
- Can't Afford to Fall Behind So Early: With the exception of their early Week 1 deficit to the Bengals, the Browns have zero ability to rally from a multiple possession lead. Anyone else in our division would be able to rally from such a deficit; we've seen the Bengals do it multiple times this year, including this past Sunday. Before McCoy was able to throw his first pass against the Texans, we were down 14-0. I don't think McCoy played particularly bad, but it can't be easy to gain momentum when you know the game is quickly getting out of reach. It might have the slightest effects, such as a player on offense pressing too much or a player on defense being a little more aggressive.
- Line Up the Tight Ends: I am begging for the Browns to go with multiple tight end sets and just let McCoy throw the ball to Benjamin Watson and Evan Moore. I still think those are his favorite two receivers, and how many times were they targeted against the Texans? Just four times.
- Holes Early to No Success: I thought our offensive line was creating some pretty decent holes for Chris Ogbonnaya to run through during the first half, but he wasn't taking full advantage of them. Whether it be too much shifting in the backfield or the inability to make a move on a defender in a one-on-one situation, he wasn't cutting it. He finished the game with 13 carries for 28 yards. For as decent as he looked in his first game or two of work as a backup, he didn't show anything to make me want to see him as a third-down back, especially since I've counted numerous plays where he fails to pick up the blitzer.
- Hate the Rotation System: This sort of involves what I said about Moore earlier, but I just hate our rotation of players. There is virtually no creativity, and if there is, it is painfully obvious. Case in point: when Alex Smith went down, rookie tight end Jordan Cameron immediately entered the game and lined up split wide to the right. McCoy looked at him right away and connected with him for seven yards. Just as quick as he got in, Cameron was off the field and as far as I know, did not play the rest of the game. We have certain guys who have shown the ability to provide a spark, but getting them one touch or making them a specialty-only player doesn't help this offense. Sure, if we had elite players on the depth chart ahead of them, it wouldn't be a bad idea. But that's not the case.
- Discouraging Defense: For the second week in a row, the Browns' run defense was gashed in the first half. This week was worse than last week's, and I give credit to the Texans' offense for calling plays that seemed to taking advantage of knowing how to get our defensive ends or linebackers out of position. Ben Tate and Arian Foster each had over 100+ yards rushing with a touchdown, and even Matt Schaub got a touchdown on a quarterback draw. Hey, but at least the Browns' pass defense ranking will improve! /sarc
- What Did You Think of Vickers? I know the announcer kept on saying, "...and look at Lawrence Vickers with the big block here...," only to show him not really engaging with anyone on the replay. I didn't have a chance to go back and look if he was the key to a lot of the Texans' big runs. If you watched the game back, let us know if Vickers had an impact.
- Is DQ at Pro Bowl Status? I think D'Qwell Jackson is having an excellent season, and although you don't think of him as an intimidating force in the middle of the defense, his consistency at making plays at or behind the line of scrimmage continues to stand out. He had 8 tackles this past Sunday along with 2 quarterback hits, 1 pass defended, and 1 interception. The interception came off of an awesome hit by safety Mike Adams.
- Understanding Your Team: I think we have to question the decisions being made by Pat Shurmur when you know that our offense has trouble getting into scoring position and we're down by 14 points. Facing a 4th-and-1 in the first quarter, Shurmur opted to kick a 50-yard field goal instead. I understand that some coaches want points on the board for confidence, but you just knew that we weren't going to be on that side of the field very often. In order to cut the deficit, those types of risks need to be taken. On the next drive, Shurmur opted to punt on 4th-and-1. The Texans answered by quickly driving down the field and making it a 21-3 game.
- Can't Wait to Replace These Guards: I just can't stand the way Shawn Lauvao and Jason Pinkston are playing at the guard positions. I have found no benefit to their ability to run block or pass protect, and one or the other seem to commit so many stupid late personal foul penalties. I understand that both players are young and it is part of the growing pains, but an offense can succeed with poor receivers if the offensive line can block. I am still yearning for John Greco to start at right guard in place of Lauvao.
- Comedy That Doesn't Count: I needed a good laugh toward the end of the game when the Browns were being blown out, and I got it when Derrick Ward fumbled and the ball was picked up by Phil Taylor. Showing almost no regard for protecting the football, Taylor looked as if he wanted to take full advantage of being able to hit someone. It looked as though he tried to throw a semi-punch at an offensive lineman, and then the ball came free as an unintentional lateral right to safety Eric Hagg. Replay review overturned the play when it was seen that Ward's elbow hit the ground before the ball came loose.
- Special Teams Tackles: Leading the Browns in special teams tackles, as mentioned earlier, was Cribbs with two tackles. Adding one tackle each were Usama Young, Chris Gocong, Quinton Spears, and Titus Brown. Spears' tackle might have saved a touchdown on a punt return.
- Brownies: The Browns weren't as successful on third downs as they've been, only converting 4-of-12 (33%)...when T.J. Ward left with an injury early, I thought Young played awful in his place, almost to the point where I wanted Ray Ventrone...only targeting our running backs once on pass plays all game in the West Coast Offense makes no sense to me, and I saw our running back uncovered at least two times...thank god for Brad Maynard, otherwise I'd have another position to complain about.
Up next, the Browns take on the St. Louis Rams. At 1-7, a "big" story (not nationally big) will be Pat Shurmur facing his former team. Neither team is playing good football, and anyone who bets on this type of game would be taking an unnecessary risk.
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This was just a very discouraging effort. Injuries, inexperience, or whatver else we are just bad. I was looking at our remaining schedule today and there may be 3 more wins in there, but more than likely 2 because I don’t think we will get by Jacksonville with this team and the way they are playing. I look for efforts against the Rams and Cardinals like we had with Seattle and those 2 games are the only ones I can view as possibilities for wins. That gives us another 5-11 season. UGH!!!!!! Go Browns, but this is tough to watch.
almost to the point where I wanted Ray Ventrone
Friends don’t let Friends wish for Ray Vetrone.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 9, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Young may not be good, he’s still better than Vetrone.
by Bernie19Kosar on Nov 10, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I have a hard time comparing suck.
by Roger Dorn on Nov 10, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought our top FA signing was on IR?
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down by 14 points. Facing a 4th-and-1 in the first quarter, Shurmur opted to kick a 50-yard field goal
On the next drive, Shurmur opted to punt on 4th-and-1

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 9, 2011 7:01 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
The real litmus test for Haden since Andre Johnson was out last week (and because the Texans didn't have to pass the ball much)
Brandon Lloyd has been targeted quite a bit by Bradford. If Haden can hold him to under 60 yards passing, then he deserves every bit of hoopla you fans wish to give to him
Actually it has been Jay Feeley really targeting Lloyd alot as last week was the first game back for Bradford (since the Lloyd trade went down) and he looked far from 100%. Still, being that the Rams lost another receiver in Salas with a broken leg I expect Bradford to really attempt to rely on Lloyd. I also wouldnt be surprised in Mark Clayton was activated this week.
Yes. I believe he stepped in to play safety two years ago when we were reduced to using Mike Furrey as a FS. I think we also used Cribbs at that position.
No, they had him set up to play safety but it never came to fruition.
In Golan we trust.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 9, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
And to think, I thought the Mike Furrey days at safety were the darkest days for the Browns.
by Off-the-Chain on Nov 10, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s not forget about Hank Poteat, those were some bad days too. I’m still haunted by his stupid play in the endzone against the lions a couple years ago.
by BornAKardiacKid on Nov 11, 2011 4:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Let’s get to the full review of the game…
Do we really have to?
Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by North Coast Flea on Nov 9, 2011 8:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think I’ve reached a sort of zen-like acceptance of how awful this team is. I didn’t even shout at the TV once during the game for the first time all year.
Dawgs By Nature: Where subject lines dare not tread.
Yep. If I see us get stopped, I don’t punch the bed anymore, I shrug and go grab some food.
In Golan we trust.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 9, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I just whispered “damn it” under my breath a few times. No stomping, no screaming, no throwing stuff. Anyone here still think we’re a borderline playoff or even a .500 team?
Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by North Coast Flea on Nov 10, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
“I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed”
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Nov 10, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think we can still get to my 7-9 prediction, but not if we look like we did against the Texans every week.
It will take wins against the Rams, Cards, Jags, and someone in the division. Stranger things have happened (our last win vs steelers).
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Stranger things have happened
not many…
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
5 would be a very successful year in my mind, especially given what we’ve seen so far.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Brady Quinn beat the steelers on monday night to effectively end their season.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
There is NO way we are getting to 7 wins. I will guarantee that right now. The Browns are not beating the Steelers and Ravens. It wont happen. This team is beat up and it wont get better. THe best shots for wins are against the Rams, Jags, Cardinals, and Bengals. At best they go two and two there. SO that means they have to split with the Steelers and Ravens? I dont see it. The team has no viable running back and the defensive back field is hurting bad. I dont see it.
Remember the time they are playing the Steelers and Ravens is when both teams will be trying to make the playoffs and win the division. Especially with Cincinnati in the mix it means that they are all going to have to be 11-5 at least to make the playoffs, so there wont be any let downs there.
The Browns at this point are equal with maybe the Jags and Cardinals, Better than the Rams. Everyone else they are atleast 4 point under dogs and some 10 point under dogs.
i will take your guarantee over Rufio’s relentless football knowledge
We have 3 games against teams with a combined record of 5-19
Our 3 wins came against teams with a combined record of 3-22.
Its entirely possible that we sweep those teams. I don’t get how “at best”, we win 2 out of 3 against teams who are as equally bad as teams we have beaten.
If you want to go outside the record and go by Football Outsiders’ advanced stats (adjusting to strength of opponents), all those teams we faced rank lower than Seattle in DVOA, including offensive DVOA.
We suck but we are not at the bottom of the barrel.
Fun Fact: FO’s estimated wins for us are 6 at this point just by the way the team has played. That is considering that the divisional games at the end are very high statistical chances to be losses. That also means if we pull a surprise upset, there IS a way we could get to 7 wins.
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well of course there’s a way we get to 7. there’s a way we get to 11. neither are very likely.
We suck but we are not at the bottom of the barrel.
we really suck, and the injuries that happen to every team every year are starting to creep in and chip away at our non-existent depth. this could be ugly.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well ok, since you can see the future I guess you’re right.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
All I said was stranger things have happened, and then I listed something stranger.
Then he tells me there is “NO” way we are getting to 7 wins. I don’t think it’s likely, but it’s possible, and I don’t need him to be a jerk and to tell me about how unlikely it is.
I don’t care if you disagree with me, just don’t tell me it isn’t possible when it is while simultaneously being a jerk. If I were betting on it today, I would certainly adjust my preseason prediction.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Our 4-3 is at a strategic disadvantage vs. the zone scheme Houston runs, but I hoped it wouldn’t be quite that bad. Good lord.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Dieken was saying something similar in his analysis on Browns radio. Said the young D Line had never seen a zone blocking scheme before and it showed.
shockingly, grossi made the same observation.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
grossi made an observation???
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I mean Rubin has seen one, but you play it differently in a 3-4.
Also, we were dropping a safety into the box a lot, meaning they knew where that 8th guy in the box was coming from. I think we should have played some Quarters so that either safety could have been involved in the run.
Our LBs didn’t attack quickly enough on the zone runs and their Oline could get up to the second level. But the LBs couldn’t attack quickly because Houston runs that counter play that looks almost exactly like the stretch play.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Seemed like our LBs kept running into each other in coverage when houston was doing crossing routes. I believe I saw Jackson and Fujita pick each other a couple times.
"The rush of battle is a potent and almost lethal addiction, for war is a drug."
With the schedule we had this year I was hoping for a team that would be up and coming… something that was watchable. Back when Mangini was fired I was OK with the move as long as Holmgren had someone better waiting in the wings. I think it is pretty evident that he didn’t. Shurmer is the McDaniels of this year except he is a McDaniels with no fire or enthusiasm. I sincerely would not blame Holmgren if he replaced him… now. I would not fault the move at all. This team should be doing a lot better. Unlike some coaches who seem to be able to create synergy with the players they have been given, Shurmur creates some kind of anti-synergy in which the sum of the whole is less than the apparent sum of the parts. I can’t excuse the team being this bad. When you enter a poor situation, add some decent players to what you have and somehow make the situation worse, you are a bad coach. Sad we will have to watch this again next year before Holmgren can admit he made a mistake. It is all most too much to bear.
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Oh and I almost forgot that firing Mangini resulted in the loss of Seeley (it was in his contract that if Mangini were fired he could seek another job) and Ryan who is a goof but I believe superior to Jauron. I mean how can you add two high draft picks to a defensive squad and end up with something worse? I need a bumper sticker with Mangini on it saying “Miss me yet?”
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Mangini won ten games in two seasons. I don’t miss that.
I miss seeing some creativity in the play calling, which Mangini brought to the table once in a while… but look how far his system took this team. Nowhere.
"That’s the reality of it and I live in that reality." Shurmur
And yet somehow we are worse off than “nowhere” with Shurmur.
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by North Coast Flea on Nov 10, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
2 seasons, man. total teardown/rebuild. gotta have some context.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
the only really loss I see is Seeley. I still don’t get how Rob is “superior” to Jauron. possibly better, but really superior? That implies that he is some elite DC
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Rob Ryan isn’t a good DC. Jauron has been just as good if not better.
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by notthatnoise on Nov 10, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I have a hard time seeing it. He’s been the head of maybe one good defense.
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by notthatnoise on Nov 10, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. I am a Jauron defender here. I agree jauron has done a nice job. Rob Ryan was a very good DC for 1 year, and below par for most of the rest of his career.
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I can’t defend Jauron. He has better players than Ryan and I do not think the defense is any better. If anything it is worse. Remember that so far this season we have played some of the worst teams in the NFL. That will continue for the next two games. The couple of decent teams we have played have handled the defense quite easily. QBs seem to have all day to look for their throws.
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He has better talent, sure. But better talent=/=better players. Some of this talent still needs to play smarter. A smarter player is a better player and there were a lot of smart players in the D last year who made plays (david bowens is one that comes to mind). There are also several players (Rubin, Fujita, Gocong) that seemed to be better fits in the 3-4 and only Rubin has played at the level he played at in the 4-3.
Remember how there was pro bowl talk for Fujita before the injury and Gocong looked really solid? not anymore.
Even if you adjust to the strength of schedule, this D comes out looking a bit better. We right now are 14th in DVOA and were 17th the year before.
Looking a little closer, the actual DVOA for the browns is essentially the same as 2010, the ranking is lower (because defense is down this year).
QBs seem to have all day to throw at some times, but we still have the 12th ranked pass D (adjusted to the QB throwing)
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Scott Fujita in 3-4>>Scott Fujita in 4-3
Chris Gocong in 3-4>>Chris Gocong in 4-3
The only players that benefitted from the 4-3 transition were mitchell (who isn’t anything amazing) and DQ (who didn’t play in 2010).
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I don’t have stats but I was under the impression that Gocong was making more/better plays this year.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
"Whether he really means 'more' or 'Carlton Mitchell more' remains to be seen."
-C. Pokorny
its a mixed bag in terms of stats.
He is doing better at getting to the QB, but I think a lot of that is scheme related (he is blitzing more, we have essentially 2 NTs to take up blockers).
However, his tackle factor (a measure of how many tackles he gets compared to the average player at his position) is significantly down as is his expected points added.
He has made a lot less overall plays this year, but the plays he makes are a bit bigger (getting a hit on the QB, tackle behind the LOS, etc…)
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Well I’ll take those numbers instead of 150 tackles seven yards downfield.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
"Whether he really means 'more' or 'Carlton Mitchell more' remains to be seen."
-C. Pokorny
People I would be ok with replacing Shurmur immediately:
Gruden
Holmgren
Andy Reid
Not ok with:
Brad Childress
Brian Billick
Steve Mariucci
Rod Marinelli
Jeff Fisher
Scott Linnehan
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I wouldn’t mind Billick. He can get emotional on the side lines. We need a little fire out there.
Take a hike, Hillis.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 10, 2011 2:19 AM EST up reply actions
Gruden just agreed to a 5 year extension with ESPN, so he’s not going anywhere. The Eagles would probably have to get back to their losing ways for a while in order for Reid to become available. Regardless, I’d love to see either Holmgren or Reid step in.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 10, 2011 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Gruden just agreed to a 5 year extension with ESPN
i don’t think this means much as far as coaching future.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was gunna say him as a joke but didn’t want to look up the spelling.
Take a hike, Hillis.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 10, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
You’ve got at least 2.5 years of Shurmur left, my friend.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 3:07 AM EST up reply actions
Not if we keep seeing this garbage for the next 18 games.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Nov 10, 2011 7:57 AM EST up reply actions
I’m afraid you’re right DCMJoey. We are stuck with Shurmur. Maybe he’ll learn to coach. We seem to be a good place for coaches to learn and get great parting gifts.
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i’ve said this elsewhere: my hope is that we decided to take all of the pain at once in 2011. change the offense, change the defense, revamp the special teams, get WAY young … and that all of that simultaneous pain will pay off with real growth in 2012 and . it’s better than doing the offense this year, defense next year, youth the following year … but it’s also super risky. my belief is that this is where H&H have put their chips, and we won’t know much until ’12 or ’13.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think you’re on to something. This reminds me of what the Bucs did a couple years ago with their youth movement and coaching overhaul, and it seems to be working for them.
bucs are a good comp. and if you’ll remember, their year of pain (i think 2 wins?) was reported to have nearly cost their young coach his job. good move keeping him around.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 11, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
This game made me absolutely dread the last few games of our schedule. I can take a loss better than a blowout. Last year was painful enough. Right now this team has shown me no proof that they can be competitive at all against anyone other than the Rams, and maybe the Jags. The worst part is, I have no conception of how anyone could begin to fix this team’s problems. Quite frankly, I can’t figure them out. I know that they look pretty bad, but I cannot for the life of me begin to say what the biggest contributing factor is. I suspect its coaching, because I do think this offense could be serviceable if we had a coach who knew how to play to our (albeit limited) strengths. The (mis)use of personnel is mind-boggling.
The cause is the complete overhaul of the schemes under which all 3 phases operate, still-shitty talent (although it’s going the right way), a head coach who doesn’t know the difference b/w his elbow and his asshole, and a bad QB.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
maybe he thought his weenis was somewhere on his butt?
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
For those who don’t know, the weenis is a part of your elbow.
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by notthatnoise on Nov 10, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
We all learn this by the time we’re five and we’re making potty jokes.
Thanks, dad.
In Golan we trust.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 10, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I learned everything on the playground. Everything except weenis.
Take a hike, Hillis.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 10, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
i’ve been farting all day at my desk. i really hope no one comes by for a visit.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by pwndabear on Nov 10, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
my definition of whether or not you are an inherently “lucky” person is how often you get pop-ins after you’ve farted in what is supposed to be privacy.
by DontCallMeJoey on Nov 10, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Do you sell magazines?
Take a hike, Hillis.
by Brownie's Year on Nov 10, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Farted at work the other night and it followed me all the way down the line. You couldn’t smell it where I did it, only where I moved to. It kind of sucked. Lol.
In Golan we trust.
by SpecialBrownie on Nov 10, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Were any of them good? We could use a good FA RT right about now.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
"Whether he really means 'more' or 'Carlton Mitchell more' remains to be seen."
-C. Pokorny
they could have played for the browns
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
That’s not really telling me much. Our recent FA RTs include Pashos, Hicks, Cousins, and St. Claire. We’ll only take one of your FA RTs if they are better than the guys on that list.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
"Whether he really means 'more' or 'Carlton Mitchell more' remains to be seen."
-C. Pokorny
So I was checking out some potential options in next year’s draft, and I was thinking that Markelle Martin, FS from Okie State might be a good fit for us.

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