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Jauron: Hagg's Increased Role and Haden's Coverage on Green

When I read through Dick Jauron's press conference, I continue to enjoy the explanations he gives for more specific situations. I supposed that is a disadvantage to having a head coach who doubles as an offensive coordinator -- you sort of lose the opportunity to ask the "offensive coordinator" about duties that are very specific to his line of work.

Anyway, Jauron was at it again on Thursday, this time answering quite a few questions about defensive backs Eric Hagg and Joe Haden and the role they played in this past Sunday's loss to the Cincinnati Bengals. [Read full press conference transcript here]

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(On Eric Hagg plying a lot last week and where he stands going forward)- "I’m happy with how he’s coming along. He suffered that setback early and it really did set him back. Now he’s getting a chance to not only get lots of reps in practice, but he’s getting lots of reps on gameday, which will really help us over time I believe. He’ll get better every week. He’s very conscientious and he’s a capable guy, he’s very into it. It’s important to him. He’s got good coverage skills particularly on people that generally give your safeties a problem, bigger receivers, bigger tight ends. Obviously, they can give him problems too because he’s not as big as most of those tight ends are."

(On if Hagg was in good position on Jermaine Gresham’s touchdown or if it was a matter of the opponent taking advantage of a rookie not looking for the ball)- "It was a couple things, if he had to do it over again he’d rather have slightly outside shade as opposed to slightly inside shade. He lost vision early. He’d like to stay on top a little more than he did. He was in pretty good position at the ball and then you’ve got a bigger receiver with better vision to the ball at the end of it. He was still on top, which is where you want to be. You don’t want to get pinned behind that big body. The quarterback made a good throw and the bigger receiver got it. The red zone is part of the field where the jump ball does come into effect. Every place else I’ve always thought it was reach, but not necessarily your ability to jump. Down in the red zone, your ability to jump comes into play. If your 6-6 and you’ve got a four or five inch advantage, it’s a problem."

(On if Hagg showed resiliency by bouncing back and breaking up a pass on third down later in that game and if that was an example of him keeping his wits)- "I think you could say all of those things. It’s not a surprise when a guy makes a play. It was great experience for him to be out there. It was obviously great for us at that time that he made that play. Eric plays that position well. He played it well in college at really the highest level of college football that you can play. We drafted him for those reasons. We hadn’t seen him a lot as a safety in true safety situations. We had seen him a lot in those kinds of situations, underneath covering tight end type people, even some wide receivers. Again, his work ethic, his attitude and then his physical skills I believe over time are going to get better and better and help us."

(On if he was unhappy with the defense on the play to A.J. Green and if there was anything they could have done because of the way they through it and went up for it)- "You’ve got a chance at the ball. It was an interesting play at the top of it, our post safety had another receiver just on top of that so it was hard for Mike (Adams) to get through that one to the receiver. Joe (Haden) had slipped under him and sometimes that’s good and sometimes it’s not. It wasn’t good there. He needed to be on the up-field shoulder and he would’ve had a chance. The receiver is taller than Joe. Joe’s has got unusual ability to stretch and leap so it would’ve been interesting but it was one of those deals that it worked out the way it did unfortunately."

(On if Rubin was close to disrupting Dalton on that play)- "Oh yeah, Rubin was right there."

(On if it was just a split second difference)- "Yeah, that’s what makes the game so good so interesting. It’s always a few things here, a little thing there, another step, six inches of reach, anything like that."

(On if the best defense would have been hitting Dalton)- "Any of the above except what happened, I guess."

(On how much time Schaefering has spent inside versus outside this season)- "Recently, I’d say probably about 50-50. Earlier was mostly inside, but he plays both and he does a nice job."

(On his assessment of Colt McCoy)- "That’s not my area. I like Colt a lot, but I don’t study him. I very seldom watch him, very seldom, if ever."

(On if he observes McCoy’s nuances from practicing against him)- "I don’t, I have nuances I’ve got to look at on the other side so I don’t. I really like the young man, I can say that."

(On who the right defensive end will be this week)- "There are a number of guys obviously that will play there off the depth chart, so it will be Schaef (Brian Schaefering) and Auston (English). Auston’s getting healthier every week. Schaef will play some out there. Jayme (Mitchell) should be healthier than he’s been. We’ve got a number of options to rotate there."

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“That’s not my area. I like Colt a lot, but I don’t study him. I very seldom watch him, very seldom, if ever.”

I think this is where the lack of an OC hurts us the most. The fact that Jauron can be hands on with the defense at all times is huge. I know that Colt meets with Whipple on the sidelines, but nothing replaces that one-on-one with an OC during a game.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 1, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

It should also free up Shurmur to think about bigger-picture things about the offense. Let the coordinator give that feedback and the minor coaching points, Shurmur needs to stay one step ahead.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I bet he was very happy to give that answer — one thing he had to deal with as a HC was bad QBs. It must be a heavy load off your back when you don’t have to deal with the constant search and evaluation of a QB.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

what happened to buster skrine? is he hurt?

we are all Kipnises...

by BG_Dom84 on Dec 1, 2011 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

I was just thinking that myself as I was reading this, it seemed like in the 6 weeks of the season he was developing nicely. My guess though is that Dimitri Patterson has just simply won out in terms of taking snaps away from him.

by BornAKardiacKid on Dec 1, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Patterson has been our 3rd CB when healthy. Most of the time on defense we’d see 3 DL, 3LB, and 3CB and 2S in nickel, so Skrine doesn’t play much.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Patterson has also been a very pleasant surprise. Definitely thought he was a step down from Eric Wright as our 3rd corner and now I think he has worked out great. Also think it was best for E Wright to move on and get a starting gig — I admire him for taking less money so he could start.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 2, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed regarding Patterson. I really wished Eazy E would have played better in his final year here. I felt as though he wasn’t into it for whatever reason, so yeah, it’s probably best he moved on.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 2, 2011 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Has Wright been playing well?

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw Wright play on Thanksgiving against Green Bay. He played pretty well, but there was at least one big play I remember he gave up that set a Green Bay touchdown. Also, Brandon McDonald gave up a touchdown in that game.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Dec 2, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

that lions d is just littered w/ cleveland cast offs, huh? corey williams, easy e, brandon macdonald … it’s a wonder they can tackle.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Williams is a pretty good player in a one-gap scheme.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

He hasn’t been as great in Detroit as he was in GB, but he definitely is a better fit there than he was under mangini.

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by bross09 on Dec 3, 2011 4:45 AM EST up reply actions  

He and the rest of that line get plenty of pressure. He might not be putting up the numbers that he did for that one season, but he does his job pretty damn well.

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by rufio on Dec 3, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. He was a monster at GB in his last couple years there, but still is good.

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by bross09 on Dec 3, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon McDonald got beat bad twice in a row by Greg Jennings, with the second being that TD. Now, why is Brandon McDonald guarding Greg Jennings? The Lions coaching staff should really answer that one.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 2, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Has Wright been playing well?

Yes, he has definitely been playing better than last year. I think, however, he may be excelling for the same reason he excelled in 2009. He has very weak companions in the secondary, so the QBs just threw at the other guys and avoided the only competent member of the secondary (that competent member being Wright).

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 2, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Eric Wright must really love having Brandon mcdonald on the other side by now.

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by bross09 on Dec 2, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

even when Patterson has been healthy, occasionally I would remember seeing Skrine play a bit. H

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by bross09 on Dec 2, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d like to see more of Skrine in nickel/dime packages and maybe on punt returns. The guy has ridiculous speed, and I’d like to see what he can do. He was a gamer in college.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 3, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

We just don’t play dime enough for him to be in there a whole lot. He’s not better than Patterson at this point, so he isn’t playing.

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by rufio on Dec 3, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

hasn’t he been dinged up, too?

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2011 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Skrine and Dockery have been playing pretty well on ST, I believe. But I still miss Nick Sorensen. Where did that cat end up (if anywhere)?

by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Last I knew he hadn’t signed with any team.

I take this optimism shit seriously.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Dec 2, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

But I still miss Nick Sorensen.

You and no one else.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 2, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I miss him too.

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by Chris Pokorny on Dec 3, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i was a serious non-fan of the jauron hire at the time it happened. i must say, though, that he’s been a pleasant surprise … the defense is way more un-terrible than i thought it would be, and jauron deserves plenty of credit for getting a pretty young, inexperienced group ready to play.

on top of that, these are the most articulate, transparent, understandable and insightful comments i’ve seen from a browns coach in a long time. very refreshing, especially considering what a pud shurmur sounds like (reads like?) in his pressers. gotta love the english major from yale as DC.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 1, 2011 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I feel like I learn stuff reading his pressers.

by HenryDawg on Dec 1, 2011 11:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with everything you just said.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 2, 2011 5:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Reply fail. Meant for DCMJ.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 2, 2011 5:55 AM EST up reply actions  

this guy must listen to shurmur and just shake his head … “i work for this idiot??”

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I imagine that when you make as much money as he does, the public speaking ability of the man you work for matters less.

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by roar888 on Dec 2, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like I was mostly right about Haden’s coverage on that play. He should be just deeper than Green and outside of him, forcing him into the MoF safety and underneath. He slipped under Green, going for the pick, when the real shot to break that pass up would have been staying “higher”/deeper relative to Green. I still think that’s a “perfect offense beats perfect defense” play even if Haden is in the right spot.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

Folks have been questioning whether Haden’s lost a step the last couple of weeks, and if he’s dinged up, that may be the case. On the flip side, the fact that he pretty much shut down the first 5 or 6 #1 WRs he faced this year set the bar pretty highly for his weekly performances going forward. The fact that he sometimes gets beat isn’t necessarily an indictment of Haden as it is the reality of playing his position. Also, he’s pretty aggressive in coverage, so I’m assuming DCs are keying on that (to your point, Rufio) in film study.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 2, 2011 6:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Meant “OC’s” above. Need. More. Coffee.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 2, 2011 6:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, as Jauron mentioned it seemed like he was hoping for a lower throw and pick there, and Dalton made the correct pass. Really perfect read by the Bengals.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 2, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Did he make the correct pass or just a bad pass where green did an amazing job getting the ball?

by youngergenerationbrownsfan on Dec 2, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, I don’t know what he was thinking and he may have lucked into it, but it turned out to be the correct pass, and presumably a great read or assumption that Haden might play underneath.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 2, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes you have take a chance. In this case it could arguably be called a risky throw, but I agree with your call – i.e. it was “the correct pass” under the circumstances.

That was my understanding.

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

The pass wasn’t perfect, but it wasn’t a bad pass. Considering the circumstances I’d call it a good throw. Dalton was about .2 seconds away from getting leveled, and he fired one up that was in range for Green to make the leap and do his thing.

That was my understanding.

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably a little of both.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Haden was trying to cut under him and intercept any ball thrown there. I think he was probably unaware of Simpson’s route that sort of got in Adams’ way, thinking he had help over the top.

Jauron makes it sound (and if you go by the book for C1 robber) like Haden should not have cut under Green.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I looked at it again last night. Haden came underneath and paid the price. He’s going to get beaten every once in a while, but his aggressiveness is still one of my favorite qualities about him. He bothers WRs that are bigger than him coming off the line; Brandon Marshall comes to mind. He just needs to be cognizant of situations where that quality might have to be put in check.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 3, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

the fact that he pretty much shut down the first 5 or 6 #1 WRs he faced this year set the bar pretty highly for his weekly performances going forward

yea, shutting down such dominant forces such as Jason Hill, Braylon Edwards, Darius Heyward Bey, Jacoby Jones and amazing passing attacks by teams lead by Curtis Painter, Blaine Gabbert and Tavaris Jackson really raised the bar for haden on the year. I can just imagine he’s going to someone like Tim Tebow. He’s probably going to do the unthinkable and limit him to only 2 or 3 completed passes!

by The Licensed Pessimist on Dec 3, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

There were games played last season too you know.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 3, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

the fact that he pretty much shut down the first 5 or 6 #1 WRs he faced this year set the bar pretty highly for his weekly performances going forward.

by The Licensed Pessimist on Dec 4, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Is Eric Hagg considered a better FS or SS? Does anyone think Sheldon Brown could be remade into a FS if we draft another corner, or could Hagg develop into that role assuming the return of Ward at SS? As it currently stands, again assuming Ward’s retrun, I like Adams and Young as depth in the FS position, but it’d be nice to have a more natural ball hawk type back there. Thoughts?

by chitown browns fan on Dec 2, 2011 6:06 AM EST reply actions  

I think sheldon brown should be moved to that FS spot, or at least be in that rotation. we keep a great defensive leader on the field, while upgrading both positions. Brown also has shown some skill in catching, so he might be the ball hawk we were looking for. Hagg might be good reliever for ward, specially in passing situations where hang seems to excel at, while ward is a run supporter.

by youngergenerationbrownsfan on Dec 2, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see how moving Brown to FS does anything but hurt us at the corner position.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 2, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct. I’d rather draft a natural Free Safety than move Brown to safety and then try to draft a replacement for him.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 2, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i haven’t noticed hagg at all … is he more a FS or SS do we think?

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

#27, tall, good tackler, had decent coverage on Gresham, he didn’t get beat on foot speed but did on technique. Looks like he’s still learning how to play coverage. he seems like he could be either SS or FS. At Nebraska he was Def. MVP on a defense that had Suh if that tells you anything.

by HenryDawg on Dec 2, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he got MVP after Suh was in the NFL.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Dec 2, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That is correct, but Prince Amukamara was still on the team.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 2, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless you have a guy that you can “build a defense around” like Polamalu or Reed, there isn’t much differentiation in NFL safeties these days. You have to be able to come up and play in the box, and you have to be able to cover a deep half and a deep third.

Brown could make a move to FS but he’s not a terrible corner and we’re on borrowed time with him anyway. I’m sure Jauron will put his best DBs on the field and not make too big of a fuss about who plays where—they can all cover, they can all hit.

As for Hagg, it’s hard to project him. He’s a little bigger so if I had to I would say SS over FS. But he played basically the Nickel DB at Nebraska, who they use as almost a hybrid DB/LB. He’d play close to the line, be involved in run support, and cover usually shorter zones. He’s probably better against the run at this point.

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by rufio on Dec 2, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

they can all cover, they can all hit

as long as this is true i don’t care what position they’re slotted into.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 2, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s so nice to have DBs who tackle

by HenryDawg on Dec 2, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think I could take any more Brandon McDonald.

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by notthatnoise on Dec 3, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s a good thing Detroit has the front 7 they have because between Ronald McDonald and Eazy E, there’s not much tackling going on. Although I think Houston (I think that’s his last name) is pretty solid in their defensive secondary.

by chitown browns fan on Dec 3, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

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