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Browns Settle for 20-17 Loss to Cardinals In Overtime, Despite Having a Two-Possession Lead

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Some people would say that Seneca Wallace's awkward-looking fumble in the fourth quarter was the best thing that could have happened to the Browns at this point of the season. The Browns aren't going to catch the Colts, Rams, or Vikings for one of the top three picks in the draft, but by losing to Arizona, they are very much in-the-hunt for getting a top five pick in April. I don't advocate that mentality prior to a game, and I doubt the players do as well; it's just something to look at in hindsight. Let's get to the full review of the game...

CLEVELAND BROWNS (4-10)
GAME #14 ARIZONA CARDINALS (7-7)
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WEEK 15 - CLEVELAND BROWNS VS. ARIZONA CARDINALS (COMPLETE GAME REVIEW)

  1. Goat of the Week: WR Mohamed Massaquoi - I had a really difficult time coming up with a goat this week. There were definitely players who made some mistakes, but none that I felt right about singling out. The one play that did frustrate me was when we were so close to connecting on a play that would've set the Browns up for a game-winning field goal attempt in overtime.

    Seneca Wallace
    dropped back and did a pump fake to buy some more time in the pocket and then found Massaquoi open down the field. It's tough to tell (due to camera replays) whether Massaquoi was at fault for jumping too early, or if Wallace is at fault for throwing it a hair too high. Even if Wallace made the mistake, it's up to Massaquoi to adjust and make a big-time play in that situation. He didn't, and Cleveland was forced to punt.

  2. Awarding Game Balls: LB Chris Gocong - There were several players who I could have given a game ball too. The irony of these first two bullet points is that the Browns ended up losing the game. Gocong has really impressed me the past couple of weeks, and he seems to especially be thriving in Scott Fujita's old position. Not only is he making the sure tackles, but he's making quite a few plays behind the line of scrimmage. He finished Sunday's game with 9 tackles, 2 sacks, and 3 tackles for a loss.

  3. Linebackers in General: Not only does Gocong deserve credit, but the linebackers as a unit did very well. I would say that it was Kaluka Maiava's best game of the season, as he finished with 5 tackles, 2 of them for a loss, and 2 special teams tackles. I questioned Maiava's future in Cleveland two weeks ago, and while he still needs to be more consistent, another couple of efforts like this will put make him a contender for a starting role next year. D'Qwell Jackson led the team in tackles again with 13, which might be a season high for him.

  4. Throwback Day for Little: For the first time in over a month, Greg Little looked like the receiver we saw earlier this season, mainly because instead of dropping the football, he was making big catches. He finished the game with a career high 131 yards on 5 catches, including a 76-yard touchdown reception in which both Little and Wallace did a nice job in the scramble drill. With a linebacker on Little, it wasn't too difficult for him to escape the coverage.

  5. Norwood Flashes Skills Again: Wide receiver Jordan Norwood had a drop the first time he was targeted, but on the next possession, he made two catches with a defender all over him. It might have looked like he was juggling the ball, but I look at it as him having good concentration to secure the ball amidst good coverage. On the next drive, he caught a pass and was oh-so-close to slipping the tackle but what could have been a huge play. Unfortunately, the "tackle" or slip was enough to get him on the ground.

  6. Hillis Runs Hard, Slips Up: I liked what I saw from Peyton Hillis on Sunday, but again we see the weird issues that Pat Shurmur is having with finding a good balance between Hillis and a complement back. Shurmur either goes 100 percent Hillis in the gameplan, or he goes 50 percent Hillis in the gameplan. Hillis finished the game with 26 carries for 99 yards and 1 touchdown. No other running back had a carry. Is it too much to ask for Chris Ogbonnaya to come in sometimes as a change-of-pace back?

    Even though Chris Wells did not have a big day for the Cardinals, he had 15 carries while Arizona's primary backup running backs combined for five carries. On another note, I really wish Hillis didn't slip on that one carry he had in the first quarter. That had "big-play" written all over it.

  7. Skrine as the Kick Returner: I don't mean to keep ragging on Cribbs, who has been dealing with a groin injury lately. It can't be a coincidence that as soon as Buster Skrine gets involved on a kickoff though, he busts a 37-yard return. Every time Cribbs isn't returning the ball this season, it seems like someone is picking up a good chunk on their return(s). Speaking of Skrine, he had an awesome interception in the third quarter that should have sealed the game.

  8. Missed Opportunities: One complaint you can make about the Browns' defense is that they drop a lot of would-be interceptions. Mike Adams had one that rolled off of his body while he was on the ground, though to be fair, he had no idea the ball was there. Sheldon Brown jumped a route but was unable to snag an interception. We've seen this all year from our defensive backs and linebackers.

  9. Assessing Wallace: What did I see from Seneca Wallace? 100% what I expected to see. Wallace had a very quality spot start and showed the same thing he always shows: he can make good throws down the field, can have a few nice scrambles, has a good sense of timing in the West Coast Offense, and generally did a good job with ball placement. You have to live with a few other things though, like his difficulties connecting with receivers when the heat was brought in the second half and the awkward slip/fumble that allowed Arizona to tie the game.

  10. Down-the-Field With Cameron? It was great to see tight end Jordan Cameron get his feet wet with a few receptions, but the defenders were able to instantly bring him down when he caught the ball. I'd like to see him get some more work down-the-field or in the seams now that Alex Smith is out for the season as well.

  11. Maynard's Clutch Day: The overtime punt to Patrick Peterson was our coverage's fault in my opinion. The rest of the day, for all the work Maynard had to do, he kept the ball away from Peterson brilliantly. The play of the game might have come with under a minute to go in the fourth quarter.

    With the game tied 17-17, the Browns had to punt from their own 15 yard line. If Maynard punted it out of bounds, Arizona would only need to go about 15-20 yards in 40 seconds to get into field goal range. Maynard surprised me by blasting the ball 55 yards down the field. As soon as Peterson caught the ball, cornerback Buster Skrine planted him for no gain.That sequence made it possible for the game to even get to overtime.

  12. Wallace's Fumble Shenanigans: Our affiliate at Revenge of the Birds does a good job trying to explain what happened on the Wallace fumble. To summarize, the referees ruled that Wallace's hand hit the ground only, meaning Wallace was not "down by contact" before the ball came out. My argument has me citing the following from the NFL Rule Book:

    "A runner (in full possession of the ball) is contacted by an opponent while he is attempting to gain yardage. The contact causes the runner to hit the ground, at which time the ball comes loose.
    Ruling: Play is dead when the impact jars the ball loose. No fumble."

  13. Special Teams Tackles: The Browns finished with seven special teams tackles, led by Kaluka Maiava with two tackles. LB Quinton Spears, S Eric Hagg, S Mike Adams, CB Buster Skrine, and WR Joshua Cribbs each had one tackle.

  14. Brownies: I just knew that Todd Heap would have a big game against us...the new "thing" for No. 1 receivers to do against the Browns is have their biggest (and basically only) catch of the game right at the end...Cribbs did have a 24-yard punt return on a play where literally no one was in front of him...I thought for sure that Dimitri Patterson was going to come away with a blocked punt...Jabaal Sheard tacked on two more sacks to his season total...the Cardinals were 8-of-16 on third down, aided by their hurry-up offense at two points in the game.

Up next, the Browns take on the Baltimore Ravens again. Hopefully the defense can contain Ray Rice this time around. Wallace might have some stuff to work with after seeing how Philip Rivers put together a masterpiece in "Dissecting the Ravens' Defense 101" last Sunday night.

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Why are there so many Browns games that leave me feeling like we lost because of one or two plays or calls. Without the fumble from Wallace would we have won? Without Haden slipping would we have won? If our DBs used the jugs machine in practice… the list goes on and on… in every game.

by crazyL80 on Dec 21, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

It means we’ve finally learned to compete.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Dec 21, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope this is the case. I really do, but its going to take more to convince me of this.

by Off-the-Chain on Dec 21, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, I think also being young its easy for a team to lose focus. They’re all playing a lot of plays and they basically have to be perfect at this point. They’ve said many times this year they’re not yet good enough to overcome mistakes, and its always just a couple of big mistakes here or there that cost them. Still I think with experience and more depth they overcome these things. As they play looser and faster they’ll be able to compete and win which is why I’ve been high on this team and even if they’re record doesn’t reflect it, their youth and effort points to better days.

by HenryDawg on Dec 21, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It means inadequate coaching. If a game is lost by less than seven, blame coaching. Blowouts are a talent issue.

by dabooo on Dec 21, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Or it’s an execution issue. You have to learn to compete before you can learn to win, and coaching didn’t make Seneca fumble the ball or our DBs not hang on to near picks. Well maybe the second one if they aren’t spending enough tiome with the Juggs.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Dec 21, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, what is a juggs machine anyway?

by macdowellm03 on Dec 21, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

A sailor’s favorite toy.

Honor. Courage. Commitment.

by Brownsbacker488 on Dec 21, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

…not a bearded clam?

by athensdawg on Dec 21, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

are you blushing, or just a bad joke?

by athensdawg on Dec 21, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually relieved there actually people as sick as I am.

by macdowellm03 on Dec 21, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i actually got that joke from my wife….

by athensdawg on Dec 22, 2011 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Something the Browns have never heard of.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 21, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

All joking aside it’s the football version of the thing that pitches balls in the batting cages.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Dec 21, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It means we battled

by mgtbfb on Dec 22, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Ditto.

Madden 12 does not have bugs, it has dyslexia & tourettes.

by Groza on Dec 21, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That first drive was amazing. A ny other good team could’ve kept that momentum going.

Fixed

Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73

by Doc's Kid on Dec 21, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

As soon as I posted that I realized, "Wait, we aren’t even good so the phrase any other doesn’t really apply.

by macdowellm03 on Dec 21, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

We are just a poor team. It will get better. I think we have seen the end of McCoy for the year and we will see what will happen at draft time

by champion64 on Dec 21, 2011 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

Just 4 more months away.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 21, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever QB Holmgren decides on better have touch and accuracy. The last 3 we drafted(Frye,Quinn and Colt) all had these 2 intangibles as negatives coming out of college.

by Johnnypronto on Dec 21, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Colt McCoy set accuracy records at Texas.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 21, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

No, he set the NCAA record for completion percentage in a single season (76.7% – his junior year) . Not just the Texas record. His senior year he was 70.6%.

Point being, Johnnypronto will throw anything out there he thinks anyone might believe about Colt McCoy, even if it is patently false (also see champion64’s persistent claims that McCoy is 5’11" tall…).

C’mon guys. You can criticize his play during his career with the Browns if you want, but please don’t go making shit up. It gets really, really old.

That was my understanding.

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 22, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

The career record for highest completion percentage is Colt Brennan. Certainly a great NFL QB.

You have to complete passes in College to be able to complete passes in the NFL (the 60 in the 26-27-60 rule), but that doesn’t automatically mean you have NFL accuracy. I have not seen the accuracy out of Colt that was talked about in college. It isn’t the worst ever, he should be completing 60% of his passes.

I teach good life choices. That's why I almost didn't graduate high school.

by bross09 on Dec 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it innate accuracy?

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 22, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

see below

Mangini apologist by default.

I’m speaking about his innate accuracy, not how well that innate accuracy is translating on the field.

by Villeslgr on Dec 22, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Did I say Colt’s college completion percentage record would translate to the NFL?
No, I didn’t. I was correcting Johnnypronto, who said McCoy’s accuracy coming out of college was a “negative”, which was a ridiculous statement.

That was my understanding.

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 22, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

you may have been responding to JohnnyPronto, but it was linked as a response to mcdowell’s post about it being a product of the texas offense.

I teach good life choices. That's why I almost didn't graduate high school.

by bross09 on Dec 22, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

By at Texas, I mean he was attending Texas, and therefore only set COLLEGE records. That means nothing in the NFL

by macdowellm03 on Dec 22, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was correcting Johnnypronto, who said McCoy’s accuracy coming out of college was a "negative", which was a ridiculous statement.

That was my understanding.

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 22, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously. This guy is all kinds of wrong … At leat he’s consistent.

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 22, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously, McCoy bashing seems to be a part time hobby of JohnnyPronto’s. He only shows up around here if and when an opportunity arises to trash McCoy. Even if it is on a thread about a game in which he didn’t play because of a concussion :-/

This goes for you too champion64 – i.e. the first comment you have in the thread about our loss to the Cardinals is that “we’ll get better because McCoy will be gone soon”. Seriously, finding new and different ways in which McCoy loses games for us I guess – even if he doesn’t play in them, eh?

That was my understanding.

by burntorangeandbrown on Dec 22, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t mean to keep ragging on Cribbs, who has been dealing with a groin injury lately. It can’t be a coincidence that as soon as Buster Skrine gets involved on a kickoff though, he busts a 37-yard return. Every time Cribbs isn’t returning the ball this season, it seems like someone is picking up a good chunk on their return(s).

Fantastic point. Cribbs is no longer elite, heck he may not be good anymore.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 21, 2011 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Cribbs does look washed up. He literally was the heart and soul of the 2007 fluke.

by Johnnypronto on Dec 21, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone realize that returning kicks and punts for 3-4 TD’s a year simply isn’t sustainable? There’s no such thing as a 10 year star kick returner as there is at literally any other position on the field.

by johnf34 on Dec 21, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Special Teams coaching change hurt

by champion64 on Dec 21, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The best returners of all time only average 1 kick return TD a year. It’s not easy.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 21, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And it’s why you never give a kick returner a big contract.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 21, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully Holms and Heck learned from this error. Makes me wonder if he gets cut, to be honest.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 22, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t you think they’d put him on the market first?

by Brownie's Year on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

No one wants a broken down, expensive kick returner.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s not that broken down. There’s some value left.

by Brownie's Year on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He has value simply as a person who likes Cleveland and can sell it as a destination to FA and show rooks like Haden how to get the city to love you (given good play too). He has intangibles that worth paying for, plus the ST units are better when he’s on them.

by HenryDawg on Dec 22, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s an interesting idea. We would have to bring in a lot of new blood for it to be possible.

by Bernie19Kosar on Dec 22, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Mitchell was a fantastic KR for well over a decade. NFL’s all tie leade in yards gained.

But, w/ Cribbs this year it’s not just a matter of TDs on returns. How many game-changing or impact plays has he made in the return game this year?

by DontCallMeJoey on Dec 22, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

He might have more if we could capitalize better.

by macdowellm03 on Dec 22, 2011 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Bad luck cost Cribbs a game winning PR TD in week 1. Other than that, there haven’t been many good things to say about his returns.

by Legoman0721 on Dec 22, 2011 12:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Don’t forget Wallace missing Little on a wide open TD. They even showed that mess on camera.

by Johnnypronto on Dec 21, 2011 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

That hurt but it probably happens more than you think, especially when you have average QBs.

by HenryDawg on Dec 21, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless Shurmur makes tons of improvements and grows a set of balls I fear we are forever going to be a sub .500 team regardless of who we add in the draft and free agency.

No sense in calling for him to be fired because he’s here for a minimum of the full 3 years of his contract so lets hope he gets better.

I still can’t fathom how he didn’t go for it on 4th down from the one against Pittspuke.

Can’t wait to see us punt on 4th and 1 from the opponents 37 yard line down 10 points in the 4th quarter this week.

by mgtbfb on Dec 22, 2011 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

You think we’ll only be down 10 points in the 4th? Now I can’t take any of the rest of your post seriously.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
I have the best wife - ever.

by JustBob on Dec 23, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

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