Heckert Thinks Robiskie Will Be Good

Like I would miss a chance to talk up Brian Robiskie.

about 1 year ago notthatnoise 22 comments 0 recs |

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Yawn. What is he supposed to say? The guy is still under contract and will be playing for us next year so he is not going to be bad mouthing him even if he thinks that it is not likely to work out for him.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 28, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions

I don’t want to slam a Brown – but I just don’t see what Heckert and Mangini see with Robo. To me he looks like spare WR. I have not seen the physicalility and the ability to shake a good corner.

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by realmccoy on Feb 28, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions

I think it’s odd that most of us acknowledge that WRs take a few years to develop and at the same time are ready to give up on guys without three years of playing time. Cognitive Dissonance.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 28, 2011 5:59 PM EST reply actions

Not a lot of people around here know that definition. Sad, really.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 28, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions

I still believe in Robi. Not going to become Torry Holt, but he can be a contributor in this league.

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by rufio on Mar 1, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions

People must also remember who has been throwing to him throughout his career: Anderson, Quinn, Delhomme, Wallace, and a not fully recovered McCoy.

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by North Coast Flea on Mar 1, 2011 7:57 AM EST up reply actions

And to add to those facts, our WR’s were not really involved much in our offensive scheme.

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by Kimble_79 on Mar 1, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions

our offensive scheme

with emphasis on offensive

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by JustPlainBrowns on Mar 1, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs

I am not ready to give up on him at all. He showed a lot of improvement from his rookie year to his second year (he also had better QBs), and he also showed improvement throughout the year, i.e., he was better towards the end of the year than in the beginning. However, my comment was simply noting that we really could not possibly expect Heckert to say anything differently in these circumstances and so his comments are meaningless.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Mar 1, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions

my comment was not aimed at you, sorry if it came off that way.

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by notthatnoise on Mar 1, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t think anyone expects a WR taken within the first 40 picks to take 3 years to develop. Mike Wallace was taken 60 picks later, and averaged more yards over 3 games than Robiski did their entire rookie years.

I would say that WRs out of all of the other positions on the football field, end up having careers reflective of their early career success. But thats when and only when they actually have the opportunities their first year. Robo had all of the opportunities in the world. No excuses for the man.

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by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 2, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions

Robo had all of the opportunities in the world

Not sure what you mean by this. He hasn’t exactly been playing along side Peyton Manning the last two years. The Browns have been on a pretty shaky QB roller coaster since he arrived (not to mention the problems at o-line).

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by burntorangeandbrown on Mar 2, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions

Brian robiskie has a similar career so far to Steve Smith in his first couple years. Did you say top 40 picks arbitrarily to not include guys like smith? You can also say he has been similarly as productive as Sidney Rice too. The 40 range seems like one of your arbitrary #s to make your point look good that has no meaning. Why should Smith and Rice be excluded? When you think about it too, that was an incredibly weak draft and he would not be top 40 in any other draft (so its not 100% fair to compare him just to top 40 guys from other drafts)

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by bross09 on Mar 2, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions

I don’t think anyone expects a WR taken within the first 40 picks to take 3 years to develop.

We’ve had this discussion a million times. People most certainly should expect it to take two to three years.

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by notthatnoise on Mar 2, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions

If you knew it would take AJ Green 3 years before he made a splash in the league, would you take him in the first round?

by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 2, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions

This is part of the reason why I wouldn’t actually unless I viewed him as an elite prospect like Larry Fitz or Calvin. I don’t view Green as either of these.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 2, 2011 7:46 PM EST up reply actions

If the Browns were to draft AJ Green, would you expect him to suck for 2-3 years before living up to his draft status?

by The Licensed Pessimist on Mar 3, 2011 3:13 AM EST up reply actions

WRs taken in the top ten are supposed to be special. They’re supposed to be Randy Moss or Larry Fitzgerald. I don’t think Green is that good, so I think he’ll struggle for a while.

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by notthatnoise on Mar 3, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions

AJ Green=/=Robiskie

End of story

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by bross09 on Mar 3, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions

I wouldn’t call him a bust after 1-2 years if he underpeformed.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 3, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions

Whoever is playing wide receiver for the Browns this year can’t be expected to put up huge numbers because the offense is going to literally be a work in progress. The question is if he (Robiskie , A.J. Green, Julio Jones, or whoever) will prove himself as a legit #1 receiver and if he becomes a key to our offense down the road – i.e. within the next few years.

Take a look at Reggie Wayne’s first few years for comparison.
2001: 345 yards
2002: 716 yards
2003: 838 yards
2004: 1,210 yards (and the rest is history…)

Wayne’s arguably been one of the top 4 or 5 receivers in the NFL for the past 7 years, but it took a few years for him to really “make a splash” after he came into the league.

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by burntorangeandbrown on Mar 3, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions