BREAKING: Browns Release Shaun Rogers and Five Others

Add Kenyon Coleman to the list. My thoughts? We better be signing alot of free agents or drafting some DL very early int he draft. We’ve got Rubin and nothing else right now basically.

Wow. I’ll reserve judgement for now, but unless we are making some big moves, this is a mistake. Shaun Rogers had already proven to be very well suited to a 4-3. He was still probably our best defender when healthy.

Shaun had become a part-time part-timer. At his age and given his shape/condition it’s better to get rid of him, rather than overpay him. He’ll sign for a fraction of that amount somewhere. I’d be happy if it were Cleveland, but not at $5mill.

Except I thought Rogers and Rubin would have been a really good pair of DTs

Now we definitely have to address both DE and DT in freeagency/draft. more of a priority than WR imo.

Does anyone think these cuts push us in the direction of 4-3 vs. 3-4, ignoring the fact that Jauron has historically run a 4-3?

I’m expecting a pretty active free agency period after this. I wonder if there will be any other cuts. I definitely don’t mind losing St. Claire, and Royal wasn’t one of my faves, but we are going to need another TE who can block.

And the implosion begins.

Who’s going the superbowl next year? WE’RE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL NEXT YEAR.

Also keep in mind that Robaire Smith is set to be a free agent in 2011, so he won’t be back either.

Whatever happened to Jayme Mitchell?

Can they get any dumber at the Plain Dealer?

Jauron is in the process of converting the Browns to a 4-3 scheme.
Rogers, who was acquired by former Browns General Manager Phil Savage in a 2008 trade with the Lions for Leigh Bodden and the Browns’ third-round pick, was made expendable in part because Ahtyba Rubin emerged as a premier nose tackle.

Spot the inconsistencies.

I really think that we did need to change our front 7. Quite simply it wasn’t very good . At least the secondary seems to be holding intact. I mean how many “good” players did we cut here. Coleman is a good depth guy, but Rogers wasn’t really contributing much this year. He was playing maybe 25 snaps a game, I can’t argue that cutting him makes sense with him due 5.5 million. But cutting Barton, Royal, St. Clair? Yawn, warm bodies can replace them and you wouldn’t notice.

this is tough, but generally makes sense.

Rogers hurts, but the money helps.
Bowens should have at least gotten the chance to fight for a spot/mentor the young guys (cliche, but DRASTICALLY important)

St. Clair sucked and it’s about time.

better see some FA moves.

Maybe I’m wrong but don’t we have around 50 million in free agency to spend now?

I was expecting Rogers to go, I had almost posted that much in the thread about the salary cap the other day, my guess was we would be even lower. Can’t say I am too disappointed. The guy is a talent….when motivated and healthy. We didn’t get a whole lot of that the past 2 years, unfortunately.

I am the most surprised by Coleman going, but think it’s definitely a signal that we are moving to a 4-3.

No more Barton Island. I am sad.

just throwing it out there…. some of these guys (Bowens, Rogers, perhaps Royal) might have made some interesting collatoral for draft-day trades. ….

Little disappointed we let Coleman and Rogers go, but I can see why. Everyone else, thank God. But DL is a huge issue now. I mean, we just let go two starters and Robaire is probably retiring. Who’s left? Rubin and Robinson? And Mitchell who is technically a FA right now?

I see one player on this list that may have been worth keeping.

 For those overreacting – I was at 6 of 8 home games last year.

Shaun Rogers in particular would not be worth one tenth of his pay next season. His roster bonus should be the equivalent of his salary. He was on the field for maybe one third of the total defensive snaps and was totally ineffective for half of those. I can’t tell you how any times I was yelling at him coming off the field at his usual snails “I could care less” pace – sure the opposing Offense was going to catch us with 12 men on the field.

If you remember – Bowens was sure that even though he was a “Mangini Guy” he was going to get cut at the beginning of last season.

Barton has a neck injury and may retire.

St. Clair sucks.

Robert Royal can block, but even without the 3 broken fingers that were an excuse in 09, still couldn’t catch in 2010.

Coleman probably had some trade value and should have been held on to for at least that.

These moves were a far cry from blowing up anything.

Off Topic Cleveland Browns Twitter Post of the Day:

Do you think that the guy that invented the Dildo heard a voice say “If you build it they will come!”??
About 7 hours ago by DeAngelo Smith Cleveland Browns – Safety

Is it how he was used? Nagging injuries? It seems like you still think he has a good amount left in the tank. I saw the comment earlier he was only playing 25 snaps a game so just wondering what was going on.

The worst part is now I have to find something to replace the “Creation of Bowens” wallpaper on my computer and iPad.

Won’t be able to assess the impact of these moves until their replacements are worked in through draft or FA. But I can’t say I miss Royal or St Clair much already. Overall, I like the decisions. It tells me the front office is leaning forward to improve the overall talent and longevity of the team. I doubt they would release any of these players if they didn’t believe they have a reastic chance to upgrade at each position.

Glad that Bowens, Barton and Coleman were able to contribute to the defense as much as they did while in Cleveland. They seemed like real blue-plate special guys who earned their keep, set a good example for the younger players and helped develop more unit cohesion during their tenure.

Lately, the athletic potential of Rogers seemed to over shadow the reality of Rogers due to his reduced playing time and injuries. While he had some great games and memorable individual — even game changing — plays over the last couple years, I’m reminded of the criticisms that followed him when he arrived from Detroit. He will not be remembered as an overachiever in either city.

Hope we don’t have to face a healthy Rogers wherever he ends up next season cause he’ll likely have a huge day against us.

what is available FA wise for the D line? Seems Cle needs at least one or two guys before the draft?

Somewhat disappointed that we lose Rogers for nothing. I was expecting him to have a huge bounce back season next year.

I am guessing that HH&S know something we don’t. Maybe he is much more injured than we ever knew.

Coleman may have gotten us something – maybe. Cant justify keeping Rogers for 6 million dollars though when he only had 17 tackles last year – and was lazy. These moves look solid – I think the FO is committed to putting together a team that is young, and plays.

Im just happy I dont have to watch St. Clair get beat all game every game this year.

I was trying to see how much Royal made last year. At first I assumed his salary was about that of his salary that the sidebar on the left said he would have for 2011 (around 2 million). However, his salary this year was 3.6 million. Thats ridiculous. that means he got paid 720k for each catch he made.

There are really only 1-2 guys who I thought we had any chance at getting value for; coleman and Rogers. the other players also have marginal impact at best to the team going forward. The fact that we paid Royal and St. Clair over 6 million last year is a joke and we should have cut them. Combined, they aren’t worth 1/10th of their combined salaries for 2011 (over 5 million). Each one is worth league minimum at best.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/fa/dl.html

As far as I’m aware, that’s an accurate list of potential free agents on the defensive line. If it’s wrong or outdated, and anyone has a better list, by all means.

Seems a risky play with the CBA to create so many holes, but I imagine that deal gets done. They could also intend to add more picks in the draft, but they’d have to get creative.

So… We know who we DON’T have anymore on the d-line, who DO we still have on the d-line?

If it has to be done, this seems like the best time to do it. With as deep as people are saying the draft is at DT and DE, we’ll be able to add some good young talent.

As far as free agency goes, what about Cullen Jenkins from GB? I don’t really know anything about him… Just heaqrd on the radio that he’s a backup at GB that has the talent to start so he’s probably gonna look to go somewhere else and start. Think Cleveland has a shot? Think we should go after him?

As disappointed as I am that Rogers is gone, I am that happy and more that Royal, Barton and St. Clair are gone.

Good Lord, I just read that the Browns had the 3rd oldest roster in the NFL last year.

Well nothing to say here

look at the bright side…..we now have a cap # of around $83 million for 2011. We’ll finally be able to pay off the salaries of the Crennel/Mangini era………I’m feeling a Carolina Panthers season coming on….

I’m not surprised by any of the moves except for one or two things. It seems to me that a few of these guys, Rogers being the main one, may have had some trade value left in them. I know the Browns avoid paying the roster bonus with him by releasing him and maybe they took the time to shop him around but got no interest? Overall I pretty much expected this. Most of these guys were either insignificant, going gray, or injured most the year.

I’m more intrigued by what we have in mind to do with this new found salary cap room. Very excited for the off season transactions now.

unfortunately we have to also keep in mind the liklihood of a lockout which means no FA. i fully expect CLE to draft lower than 6th in 2011

Shaun Rogers is the only player worth arguing over. He’s also the only one that wasn’t brought in by Mangini. He probably has a couple of good seasons left, but he’s just not worth the current contract.

We trimmed the fat but now we need about 12 key players. I can’t see us getting that much talent through the draft and free agency. How many walk ons are we going to allow on this team? Open tryouts in Cleveland? Speaking of which, I was reading the football movie post and I didn’t see a lot about the movie “Invincible.” I have to put that one in the top five.

I want to know what happens if there is no new CBA – and the owners decide not to lock out the players. It’s my understanding that if that were the case, there would be no free agency and all FA’s would return to their current team at a yet to be determined salary increase.

So, we just cut a bunch of players on defense that may not be able to be replaced in free agency. That would certainly change the ’ol draft strategy.

WTF?! No more Big Baby hogging up the stantionary bikes?

I’ve had a girl on my mind for a couple weeks now. I’m slippin’. News is already 2 days old.