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The Sunday Five: Benefit of Seneca Wallace, and the Vacant Safety Position

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As I continue to search for certain features that can "stick" here in our fifth year of Dawgs By Nature, today I am trying out, "The Sunday Five," a loosely-titled piece in which I will talk about five NFL- or Browns-related topics related to this past week. Let's get things rolling with the signing of our backup quarterback:

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The Browns signed quarterback Seneca Wallace to an incentive-laden three-year deal worth up to $9 million. The veteran has drawn the ire of fans for talking to the media as if he expects to have a chance to compete for a starting role when we know the organization is committed to Colt McCoy. I think we can safely seperate Wallace's comments with his role as a backup quarterback though. He knows Mike Holmgren loves him and his familiarity with the West Coast Offense. With a more familiar system in place, he can do a good job himself trying to "mentor" McCoy as needed. Despite the Browns going 1-3 in games he started last year, I think Wallace was a very effective quarterback. He wasn't a game-changer or anything, but he brought stability and did a good job making the most of the talent around him.

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By signing D'Qwell Jackson to a one-year deal, the Browns have taken away one of the holes they need to fill this offseason on defense (which I will discuss in my next bullet point). If Jackson ends up playing most of the season as a starter who has a significant impact on the outside along with Scott Fujita, he'll be worth the $4.5 million that will be paid to him. If he ends up getting hurt again or plays poorly and does not see many snaps, I don't think he'll see anywhere near that amount, making it a win-win situation for Cleveland.

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By my count, the Browns probably still need to find another DT, DE, MLB, and safety in their starting lineup. While I wouldn't be thrilled with Chris Gocong being a starter, Tom Heckert approves of him and I imagine he'll be brought back. That reduces the starting defensive needs down to three. Our first-round pick will probably address the defensive line positions, leaving the Browns in need of another defensive lineman and a safety.

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If the lockout situation is solved before next Friday's deadline, I think the Browns will try to find another safety immediately. The team could try to re-sign Abram Elam, but take a look at the former Jets who already were let go: Kenyon Coleman, Eric Barton, and David Bowens. Chansi Stuckey was also not tendered. I thought Buffalo safety George Wilson, who started in 2009 for Jauron, would be a candidate, but he just re-signed with the Bills for three years. Jauron was the defensive backs coach for the Philadelphia Eagles last season, and Philadelphia did not re-sign starter Quintin Mikell yet. Could he be a candidate?

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In the latest Around the Pound, I mentioned the five-year anniversary for Dawgs By Nature. Who were the big free agent names the Browns were signing around this time in 2006? C LeCharles Bentley, WR Joe Jurevicius, NT Ted Washington, P Dave Zastudil, RT Kevin Shaffer, LB Willie McGinest, and TE Darnell Dinkins. I'll let you count how many of those players are still with the team five years later.

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I would bet Matt Roth, Jayme Mitchell, or Marcus Benard would make 1 or 2 good DEs. Roth was a DE in college and according to Heckert Mitchell could be an awesome 4-3 DE

by HenryDawg on Mar 6, 2011 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

Mitchell won’t be though or he already would’ve been this awesome DE. Not a career backup.

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by SpecialBrownie on Mar 6, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He played behind two very good DE’s in Minnesota.

Sometimes a player needs an opportunity to explode.

by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 6, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I should add I am pro-Mitchell.

by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 6, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Hear, hear.

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by golanbatrac on Mar 6, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Here hear

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on Mar 6, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Cautiously optimistic about him (not confident enough to say I am “pro-mitchell”).

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Mar 6, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Roth is gonzo. We didn’t tender him and he is much better in a 3-4. I am sure another team would be willing to give him more money than we would.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Mar 6, 2011 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’d like to second that. He is double live gonzo!

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on Mar 6, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like the Seneca Wallace signing too – but I think you overrated the impact of signing DQ. Hasn’t played in 2 years, and the injuries will be very difficult to overcome. I would be pleasantly surprised if he has any appreciable impact on the 2011 season.

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by realmccoy on Mar 6, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

It isn’t like this guy had multiple surgeries on his knees or anything, he tore his pecs. If he can tackle, he should be fine.

I would be more concerned with him being rusty than anything. DQ has shown the ability to be a solid, above-average starting MLB in a 4-3. Compare that to the zero players on the roster that we’ve had that can say that, it’s a great move.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 6, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are serious injuries for a smallish LB. Never even heard of anyone who ripped both before. I am sure the contract is incentive laden and it is a good risk to take. I do however do not agree with the statement that this “fills a hole”. This is a longshot that if it works out great – but if we needed an LB before DQ – we still should sign one to cover the risk associated with DQ.

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by realmccoy on Mar 6, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

if you look back to the thread about the contract, it is very incentive-laden. This is good, because its low risk and relatively high reward.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Mar 6, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t believe I used the phrase “fills a hole” or even “fills a need”. At worst, it eliminates the position as one where we absolutely need to find a player who is ready to step in and be a productive starter right now.

Even if he only plays 6 games, that’s 6 games we can groom a late round guy with big talent and little experience.

It turns an immediate need into the need for a contingency plan, and it puts us closer to being able to draft BPA—if only for the time being.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 7, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Jurevicius was such a badass.

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by Adrock2099 on Mar 6, 2011 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

I miss JJ, we need a new one

by HenryDawg on Mar 6, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea it takes balls to sue the browns…big ones

by Brocolis154033 on Mar 6, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the DBN bullet points.

by Bernie19Kosar on Mar 6, 2011 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

I do too.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Mar 6, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

By my count, the Browns probably still need to find another DT, DE, MLB, and safety in their starting lineup.

I really think we’d be best with Fujita at SLB, and D’Qwell at MLB. If we are going 4-3, especially the kind of 4-3 I think we are going to, this will be our best combination.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 6, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

Gocong is also slated for MLB isn’t he? Having Gocong & DQ (in any order) at MLB might not get us salivating, but it’’s solif enough considering the holes at DL & WR.

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by LondonBrown on Mar 6, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, Gocong and DQ provide solid depth in the LB core

by HenryDawg on Mar 6, 2011 7:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gocong played ILB last year, but I don’t think he will be anywhere close to as good in the middle of a 4-3. I think he’d ideally be a SLB for us, and I don’t think he’d be that good—Fujita is clearly the superior option.

If DQ is anywhere near his form of 2 years ago, he would be the clearly superior option at MLB over Gocong.

If I was in charge, I would find an athletic WLB in the draft and sign an athletic veteran who can play there too. Jackson and Fujita start at the other two spots, with Gocong coming in situationally.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 7, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I definitely agree. From what I heard, Gocong will be mlb and DQ may be WLB, but I like DQ at mlb better with gocong being a 4th LB who can play Strong or middle. Though that means we would need a WLB

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Mar 6, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

again… let’s dumb anyone that’s not associated with our coaching tree or teams we’ve coached.

dumb.

I’m hoping and trusting it’s not done that blindly, but.. come on.

Roth can stay. even Chansi as well.

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by discoinferno083 on Mar 6, 2011 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

Fumble…. (seemed the season changed on that play, the momentum stopped)

by champion64 on Mar 6, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Roth doesn’t have a position in a 3-4. At least not one he’s good at.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Mar 6, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean 4-3 right?

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by SpecialBrownie on Mar 7, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, thank you.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Mar 7, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope Jackson returns to form,hes not a pass rusher and never fit the 3-4 but in a 4-3 he will shine if healthy! Kaluka Maiava has alot of heart and i am curious how he will fit into things,at the very least he will be awesome on special teams. I hope we can save some money and possibly move Mike Adams back to free safety and grab a fith or sixth rounder to plug in when ready. Sean Considine is a former Heckert guy who could come cheap, hes a little slow but has been around a while with a number of starts under his belt,Him and TJ would be a hard hitting Duo

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by Greg Peters on Mar 6, 2011 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

On the open safety position… I heard on the radio that the Chargers signed Bob Sanders and that they are unlikely to pay what it takes to keep Eric Weddle. Any chance he ends up in Cleveland? Would he be a good fit for us?

by shep615 on Mar 6, 2011 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

I would definitely take him. I dunno the chances, but he is a really nice FS. Honestly, he is one of the smartest players in the league. He can be our Brian Russel (though smaller and probably a bit faster at FS)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Mar 6, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d much rather have Weddle than the above mentioned Mikell. He’s a much more dynamic player. Also, Philly can’t wait to get rid of Mikell (at least the fan base and local media – I live in Philly). And I’d love it if we could start getting some competant veterans that aren’t simply castoffs or backups. There is certainly a prevailing thought that players don’t want to end up in Cleveland unless it’s a last resort. That needs to change.

by Onyx Lightning on Mar 6, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, from what I’ve heard I would rather have Weddle than Mikell.

As far as free agents go, I think we’re just gonna have to go after the guys that just want more $ for a couple of seasons until we have more of a winning culture. Of course, I think it definitely helps that Holmgren is in charge- his rep might attract some people here. I hope, anyway.

by shep615 on Mar 7, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t base anything on what philly fans say. Mikell did make the pro bowl last year, and as much as we disregard that around here, it does mean something.

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by notthatnoise on Mar 7, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d try to sign Weddle.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Mar 7, 2011 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I like both moves and think dq is solid starter when healthy. Hoped roth would stay thought he’d be a good DE for us. I hope we get a 2nd for wright. Mikell would be a good stopgap for season.

by Brocolis154033 on Mar 6, 2011 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Abram Elam stands way above the other Jets signings. He is one of the best classic strong safety in the NFL, and has played his heart out here.
McGinnest may have been the last quality linebacker that got any significant playing time here. Jurevicious, Shaffer and Dinkins should still be playing here.

by mooncamping on Mar 7, 2011 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

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