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Cleveland Browns 2011 NFL Draft Day 3 - Open Thread (Part II)

This will be the final open thread for this weekend's draft festivities. The Cleveland Browns still have three picks remaining -- two in the sixth round and one in the seventh round.

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FIST!

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

this earned you the elusive double rec.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ew.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

PALM!
Paper covers rock.

by Danieldelamaiz on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they draft a little skat back ill be happy

by nickmar19 on Apr 30, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

relitivly speeking however, im still disapointed in this TE FB shananagins

by nickmar19 on Apr 30, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i wouldnt mind if todmans there in the sixth, i would take him. insurance for hardesty.

Lifes A Dance, You Learn As You Go!

by findlaybrownslover on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oline, anyone?

by scrumm on Apr 30, 2011 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m really hoping Herzlich.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bet next pick will be a QB.

by Roger Dorn on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably. Tyrod Taylor? GMac?

by scrumm on Apr 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

McElroy.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at that crap. Pats just sit there and nab Marcus Cannon

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

That made me a sad panda.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want a punter and a long snapper to bring in a develop behind Dawson and Pontbriand. Gotta build for the future!

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Dawson’s punting now, eh?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t you hear? He beat Reggie in a sword fight and absorbed his powers. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that’s why they looked so happy…

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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long Snappers have to be able to catch in the WCO. You can never have enough depth

I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.

by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I can’t wait till these players and this team prove you wrong yet again.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

like MoMass, Veikune, Robo right?

oh, maybe like Haden. I get owned every time he gets burned by a white dude and intercepts a jump ball

I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.

by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn’t be an issue if you could join the rest of civilization in admitting Haden is a player.

by Roger Dorn on Apr 30, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Robaire Smith is slow off of the ball, too.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yea. And Brett Ratliff, Mosley, Barton, and all the other jet cast-offs who aren’t on the team/suck own me daily

I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.

by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we got Haden I’d be extremely pissed. There is no player I’d be more pissed about

by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 22, 2010 5:16 PM PDT

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

thought Robo was taken a little early, but I loved the Massaquoi and Veikune picks.

By rufio. November 9, 2009

I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.

by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Skippy!

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll see your 10 and raise you 5!

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on Apr 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You say Suh seems safer than everyone else but remember….they said the exact same thing about Glenn Dorsey

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raji has done absolutely nothing for their teams

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why Ward before Burnett/Jones?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

In response to drafting TJ:

Roy Williams cam hit. So can Mays. Doesn’t mean much on the field
why not Mays?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The haters are, for some irrelevant reason, saying that he pointlessly compared Clausen to recent number one picks. The purpose of it was to show that irrationality of the Clausen detractors compared to other 1st round QB who didn’t receive this much hate. And it makes sense. How can people, which a lot of people have done on this forum, say hes not a 1st round QB when he’s has better natural tools, and great production in a pro style offense than every other QB taken with less talent around him?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Skippy!

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree, damn skippy. Jif is much tastier.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

DRAFT ME HECKERT. NOW.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I’d be good with a BC guy.

by Roger Dorn on Apr 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a soft spot for them as well. I’m waiting a few years for Swigert. Hometown player.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that the cancer guy? Take him for PR. Plus he’s a freakin’ stud.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, yes and YES.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

just keep him away from the cleveland clinic

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by findlaybrownslover on Apr 30, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jacquizz is a sweet name.

by Matt Y. on Apr 30, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought that too.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d call him Jacexam.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who was are fifth round pick? I had to run to Home Depot.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at the front page brah.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You couldn’t just tell me? dick.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Buster Skrine, CB.

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 30, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the Chattanooga Choo-Choos

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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was a good feature on the fullback we drafted on ESPN during the college season, going to see if I can find it online.

by Roger Dorn on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I love that pick. Stanford homer here.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah, serious? I’m not watching.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured we would

I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.

by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh shit, we’re up!

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

QB

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

McElroy?

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Pinkston. OT

I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.

by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice, I like it.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Pinkston, T, PITT

by Internalfire48 on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

thank god. go die somewhere, St. Clair.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Sheard gets his own teammate to work against again. Awe.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone know what that costs us?

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by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Good, we srsly needed some o-line help.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Cousin played for the Eagles. Nepotism rules.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i can dig that. any info on this guy?

by davus on Apr 30, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

NFL says not the best pass protector but should be solid as a RT

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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

NFL Network*

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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

solid sounds good compared to st. claire

by davus on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No 6th rounder anymore.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe we’ll bring in a UDFA.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it matter? I don’t think anyone we take in the 6th is going to be better than what we have. If Colt isn’t the guy we need to get a good FA or high pick QB next year

by HenryDawg on Apr 30, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care. I just assumed we’d take one.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we’re done now?

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

We have a 7th left still i believe.

by Clevsports on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, the compensatory one. you can’t trade those, right?

by davus on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

From 9:05 AM today, by me:


Interesting candidates still on the draft tracker…OL Jason Pinkston, LB Casey Matthews, CB Brandon Burton, CB Buster Skrine, S DeAndre McDaniel

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

crazy. good work!

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Move over Mel Kiper!

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re the best, daddy.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad we didn’t take McDaniel. He was a “star” on the defense, but he disappeared in far too many games.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

none at all? we had two.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

According to walterfootball (I know), he was projected in the 3rd-4th round by some.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Walterfootball gave Colt a 3rd round grade.

by scrumm on Apr 30, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Jimmy Clausen a 1st. Everyone’s wrong on something in the draft, though.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

41 career starts but durability is still a concern. Injured left shoulder during the third game of the 2007 season (Michigan State) underwent surgery and missed the rest of the year. Missed the 2008 Sun Bowl against Oregon State after injuring right shoulder during a practice.
Commitment to strength and conditioning needs to be investigated further by any teams considering drafting him. Has experience lining up at fullback in short-yardage situations. Served as a junior volunteer fireman for the South Baldwin fire station while in high school. Cousin Todd Pinkston played receiver in the NFL for six seasons. House was robbed in 2010. Reportedly escaped out of a window with friend when heard robbers confronting another friend in another room and called 911.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

A lineman that can fit through a window? I don’t like it.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a bay window.

by themadlibs on Apr 30, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He thought thin.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

At 6’3" 317 lbs… That had to be one big window.

by shep615 on Apr 30, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly where my skepticism comes from.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear he does pilates.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re worried about the size of his windows? I normally prefer larger windows myself. Lets in more sunlight.

by shep615 on Apr 30, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a player teams should feel comfortable asking to protect the blind side. Average arm length and can overset to the outside. Lacks the lateral mobility to recover from false steps. Doesn’t sink hips enough. Gives too much ground when quicker defensive ends get into frame before gets set. Leans into defenders and vulnerable to push pull moves. However, can protect the edge when lines up on the right side. Quick enough to beat most left ends to the corner. Gets sound hand placement. Does a nice job of anchoring against bull rush and mirroring defenders once locked on.
Can get under defender, roll hips and generate above-average push but inconsistent in this area. Doesn’t sink well despite relatively low center of gravity and not nearly as effective when doesn’t keep pads down. Slips off blocks. Plays with a narrow base and leans. Would not fit well in zone heavy scheme at this point. Initial quickness is just adequate and doesn’t always cover enough ground with first step. While doesn’t have great agility and has some problems adjusting to moving targets in space shows adequate body control and can cut off linebackers at the second level. Shows better range on film that timed speed would suggest and can get around the corner when asked to pull.
Can block through the whistle and get under defenders’ skin but doesn’t play with the same chip on his shoulder every play. Gives too much ground and needs to be more aggressive in pass protection.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard some say he could be a second day pick if there were no injury concerns, so getting him in the 5th? nice.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

it seems like we wont be getting a QB this draft since we wont pick again till 248

by Internalfire48 on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i give the Browns a solid B+ this draft

by Internalfire48 on Apr 30, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Hard to give a grade without knowing how Phil Taylor will be used.

by scrumm on Apr 30, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

QB.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He’s going to start at DT…

by Roger Dorn on Apr 30, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obv. Just meant in reference to rufio’s post about it.

by scrumm on Apr 30, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you never know when someone will jump down a flight of stairs and fracture their skull.

by crazyL80 on Apr 30, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

…There is so much more to that story than the simplicity of falling down the stairs.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

that only happens in baltimore

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by dawgtribe on Apr 30, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

So a new thread opened up while I wasn’t paying attention, this is the cheat sheet I was talking about.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there a Madden 10 sheet? That’d be nice

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found it. Awesome.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was about to tell you there was, but I had deleted it from my bookmarks.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also scroll down to the very bottom of the 10 list and I believe that’s the one with who some prospects were modeled after.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I saw that name too.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow that’s in depth.

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by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s very nice.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually learned about it two years ago from someone here.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Live feed of reporters talking to each other right now. lol

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s BS. Draft in going on.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, we don’t pick again til the end of the 7th.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how everyone’s just chilling.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Browns were told that they needed to trade at least 1 of their 6th round picks because the NFL Network thought that taking a 3 pick commercial break would be a bit too long

by superbacker56 on Apr 30, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

If this years draft pans out will never doubt heckert again – but I’m puzzled and disappointed. Went in hoping for AJ or Peterson and would have stoked with jones. Now I’m down because we went on mission on giving those picks back and using mid picks on weird positions. Hopefully will look back fondly on draft but for now – meh

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by realmccoy on Apr 30, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

For a team developing, many solid picks beats few blue chip picks.

by scrumm on Apr 30, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am sure you aren’t faulting them for not taking Peterson or Green when they weren’t available to us?

by Roger Dorn on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m probably headed out soon. rufio, if you’re still here, can you cover the seventh-round pick (or if we trade up again)?

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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 30, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure, I’m on it.

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by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heckert talking about Marecic being able to block and catch the football.

Says Pinkston can play RT and guard, LT if he needs to.

Excited about athleticism of Cameron and Skrine.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Heckert mentioned both special teams and the word backup when talking about Merecic.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Tight lipped about Vickers though.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Vickers, they can’t say anything because the league hasn’t started? Traded maybe?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Say they hope Cameron can play now, he is a basketball guy, but has played football, has experience.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Holmgren less actively involved this year in the draft and making selections. “This was Tom’s draft”

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Placed more of an emphasis on filling the roster (“need”) without reaching, in Holmgren’s words.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

We rank players by position, probably similar to Parcells’ board.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

is anyone else a little upset the browns never went for a change of pace runningback? herdisty is still a questionmark and we all know how broken down hillis got at the end of the year

by nickmar19 on Apr 30, 2011 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Shurmur said Pinkston projects as a G at the moment.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Beat you.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not on my screen.

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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Refresh.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did, yours is still after mine.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

But has the ability to eventually be a tackle.

So who plays where between him and Lauvao?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds right.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pinkston is going to be used at G first, says Shurmer.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Holmgren would rather us hit in the draft than Free agency. Would want the lean of each to flip for the Browns.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Holmgren is drooling over Cameron. Ability to shift from Bball to Fball, loves his drive, says he does well in one of the most difficult positions in the NFL.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Tom says Marecic is strict FB. Says he’s really good.

Says Cameron and Moore are similar but different. Says he’d rather have two Moores than one. Says it’s always important to grab a playmaker for O.

Still says Josh is our guy.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Says he’d rather have two Moores than one.

More than one Moore is just plain greedy.

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on Apr 30, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were all clamoring for more Moore during the season.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

First thing Holmgren says about his opinion of Jordan Cameron is just “Wow”.

I think this was a holmgren pick the way he talks about him (especially with the USC connection).

“Add another weapon to the offense can only help”

(Heckert on Cameron). Also talks about liking having two 6’5’’ guys.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

“Tremendous upside” being used a lot.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Low overall, high potential grades.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’ve got some high overall in the first few rounds.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Says we will be pleseantly surprised for Little. We like him for his YAC, not his speed.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

“I think our receivers are underrated and I don’t know if we know what they can be”

“The offense we’re going to run is a little more geared toward getting the ball in their hands”

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

If no one wants to believe me, that’s fine, but Mangini wanted to get the ball to the players in the middle of the field.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holmgren says our current WR core is still very underrated.ays Little is a great addition to group however.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

“I think our receivers are underrated and I don’t know if we know what they can be”

“I think we have good receiver right here but this man (Little) is a good addition to the group”

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Once again, me and Ruf got it. You can chillax.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chillax to the max

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crank it to 11.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it wasn’t on my screen.

you can chillax about my need to chillax

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair I could have said the same to you a while ago.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chillax bro.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re the one getting uptight with Bross and I.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holmgren always wants to take a QB late. Gren says it must make sense though. He says maybe we aren’t finished at QB but we do what we have to do.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Holmgren doesn’t care for sushi, there was a large amount in the draft room.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

This made me laugh out loud.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

HECKERT’S FAVORITE PART OF THE DRAFT.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wootcaps

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude has gained some pounds, obviously.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh this wasn’t a joke?

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he actually mentioned both of those things.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loving what Heckert was saying about Cameron being so head and shoulders above everyone else that we had to pick him despite our lack of need.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep. Based it on the board, not position.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one can understand why Heckert is so bananas over Cameron.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

*Slow whistle.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

SB can get behind a tight end.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

“tight” end. Dirty.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha reccd

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Says we’ve proven our draft strategy with Joe and TJ.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Holmgren liked bothering the crap outta Tom on the trade before it happened, to make sure he liked it.

Says it was an amazing trade for us.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Holmgren continues to make really bad jokes and it’s over.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s right though, there will definitely be a draft next year.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, of course.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holmgren wants to take the air out of all the footballs, but only those in the United States.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I liked how he responded to: What if there’s no draft?

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

People are now silently browsing the internet on their laptops.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, funny how they leave it on.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

One guy keeps trying to talk to everyone but no one really wants to talk.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

He left.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Another guy pretended he was getting a phone call and has left.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

So exciting.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some lady just checked her purse.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Mary Kay Cabot stole something.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

A guy is shuffling through his papers; might be looking for something.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

He found it.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shurmur looked uncomfortable up there. Either he’s a puppet or he suffers from anxiety.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

He has gotta fix his greasy looking curls.

Heckert looked fat and the Walrus looked like a walrus.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heckert is fat with very small hands.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot to put a subject line. Sorry!

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

cute :)

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

First thing that came to mind when he said fat with small hands.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Fran is getting to you.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quiet you silly boy! ;)

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he’s more like humpty dumty

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know this is really mean, but I can’t stop associating Heckert with Bill Paxton in Weird Science.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think his head tampers off too?

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

tapers*

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a very… unique body type.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of coaches are weird. Think Billichick.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That hoody is so stupid.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way. it’s awesome.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

They sell cut off hoodies commercially now don’t they?

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t think so. gotta pay $90 for one and cut your own sleaves off.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why Romeo failed as a head coach. Too likeable and teddybear huggable.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They interviewed him on NFLN yesterday. Was very very awkward. Tried to talk and would get cut off by Mayock a lot.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You gotta be a little crazy to want to lock yourself in a room and watch video for nights on end.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even weirder was him being in a suit and him trying to keep good posture.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The talky guy is back; is forcing conversation with the purse lady.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear God you are so funny right now.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously. I’m sitting here try to suppress my laughter and people are giving me weird looks.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Haden was on ESPN for a minute and I missed it, what was he saying?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

DAMNIT. Me too.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was talking about giving the commissioner a hug last year.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

they had an odd thing about giving hugs to the commissioner now then you go on stage. I think he said something about “you want to give him a friendly hug, not a tackle hug”.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

UPDATE: guy lost his wifi connection; had to obtain a cable.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

You need a hobby.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

SO DAMN FUNNY.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was funny.

by Villeslgr on Apr 30, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol. did YOU say bye to him?

I live for Christ the KING.

by jlsclarity on Apr 30, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m reading this hours afterwards and damn near pooping my pants because I’m laughing so hard.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 1, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol whats up w Greg mcElroy’s girlfriend? posing weird for the camera.

I live for Christ the KING.

by jlsclarity on Apr 30, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Pats don’t take Herzlich, we should.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

GAH, I KNOW.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pats already took Cannon.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet we take a kicker with our 7th

by crazyL80 on Apr 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Let’s get Greg Romeus.

If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.

by Cap'n Snegiryov on Apr 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Joseph Lefeged is still available? That would be great if he lasted till our pick. Would fill a need too.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I also like Jeffrey Maehl, WR Oregon. He may go undrafted. He’d be a good pickup when we are able to sign undrafted players.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I like it.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we take Patrick Devlin

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Apr 30, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I fell asleep a couple hours ago. Did I miss anything cool? When’s our next pick?
Man, I feel out of it.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

nm, up in 22 picks.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I know this feeling.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it I passed out at about 2:30, missed the trade up for the OT.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

We’re getting old.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Early 20s is the new 40s.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

30 is the new 80, in my case.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This cracked me up. Well done.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dilfer is, and looks, like a nut sack.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

How does such an annoying guy stay on TV.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m listening to a lot of the conference call videos on clevelandbrowns.com, and I must say the questions theses interviewers are asking are really dumb and in no way informative.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta love the 15 second pauses, too. The players keep thinking they’ve been hung up on.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we’ll have to wait until the actual press conferences before we get any decent interviews with these guys.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little definitely has a little bit of WR in him though, I think that comes through.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll put together another 2011 Browns Draft: YouTube Reels fanpost once all our picks are in.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Looking forward to it.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Links, not embedded please.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the videos don’t actually load unless you want them to, so I figured it wasn’t to bad?

I liked the idea of conveniently picking the ones each person wanted to watch, without having to open a new tab/window each time.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Embedded youtube links kill my computer. I think others had similar problems last year. Lots of people (myself included) lose the use of the z button at times with even a single embedded video.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see. It’ll take longer, but it’ll be worth it, I’ll take 1 screen shot for each video and have links.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it happened to me.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Apr 30, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that BC guy still on the board?

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Anthony Castonzo is the only one taken from BC so far, so I’d have to say yes.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you mean that Herzlich guy.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel bad for him. He was a high first round pick at one point.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herzlich is available.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are up and still Herzlich is still there.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herzlich fell because of steroid rumors. He had cancer, so it’s understandable why he’d need a little bump in his training, but NFL teams were worried his quick recovery last season was tied to the PED use.

He’s a good guy and recently reached out to an Ohio high school player who was diagnosed with cancer. I really hope he catches on somewhere and has a career.

by Tyler T. on Apr 30, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish they could just hush it up due to “extenuating circumstances”. If there ever were extenuating circumstances, I figure cancer would fall into that.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brownsyup and Bernie, you guys around?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I need to leave and we haven’t picked yet.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

We picking in 5 mins.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am already late

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can take off.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Want me to put something up on our pick?

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that would be awesome. Sorry I can’t be here. Hoping it’s Herzlich! See you guys later.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my we are picking soon, time to go to a commercial break

There's a new sheriff in town, his name's McCoy

by da36chamberz on Apr 30, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yup….

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL you called it. We’re on the clock!!

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pick is in.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Here is our own personal Mr. Irrelevant.

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by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else tired of getting reminded that we haven’t made the playoffs since 02?

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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

pick is in….

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Eric Hagg (CB) Neb

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

They are calling him a safety which makes a lot more sense I think.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah… I think he is more of a safety for sure.

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by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW This kid has great stats.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Hagg has the size, speed and instincts in coverage to contribute immediately as a sub-package reserve could become a starter in time. Can play man against tight ends and slots, shows good awareness in underneath zone, very capable of covering the deep half and flashes the ability to play in deep cover one. However, doesn’t make enough plays when in position and around the football. Can be drawn down by the play-fake and can be a tick slow diagnosing and reacting to the run. Durable, productive and reliable in coverage.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Sounds pretty good for a 7th rounder.

by emily522 on Apr 30, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

A crap load of tackels, 5 INTs, and 14 tackels for losses last year. I like it.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I obviously can’t spell tackle.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Off-topic: Anyone else excited to watch the 2011 Top 100 Players?

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

?

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the top 100 players that are currently in the league right now, ranked by the players that are currently in the league.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s stupid. Joe Thomas is number 1. Why watch it.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I’ve always had a thing for Top Lists Countdown shows, as long as the topic is interesting.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha same. And NFLN has a ton of them.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he isn’t, the whole thing is bullshit, and he’ll pancake the entire network.

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by Dawg Nuts on Apr 30, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

When was it on? I just got back home from work

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it has aired yet.

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by Dawg Nuts on Apr 30, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Simms begs to differ.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was on at 8pm and will air every Sunday night at 8 for the next nine weeks.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

when is that? you would think after seeing that commercial 1,000 times i would remember

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by da36chamberz on Apr 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was about the 876th viewing of the commercial that finally sold me.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of commercials I’m so tired of these 2 commercials on the NFL channel that I’m ready to throw a football through the TV. One is the “You Don’t Own Me…” ad about the women’s football jerseys and the other is that one showing kids and players on the bus with all the chanting. It is on almost every break. I bet they air 60 times a day and have for months.

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by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww, boo! I guess it’s an episodic thing, tonight is only episode 1. Shame, I thought it was some big special.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic UFC fight tonight too. Very excited for that. Minus the finals, it’s been an awesome weekend.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I think it was a solid if not spectacular draft.

by HenryDawg on Apr 30, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty damn solid

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess so.

Just getting in and todays picks are no what I was expecting! Especially the TE & FB in the 4th.

Still, you can tweak your team down there.

I’m also wondering whether or double NT formation will resemble the Williams pairing at the Minnesota. In the words of my boy, that would be So Cool

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by LondonBrown on Apr 30, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That fullback is a monster.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vickers?

Actually as a west coast FB has to catch I can see Vickers being on the way out. He’d be deadly if anyone was still running the I.

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by LondonBrown on Apr 30, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll probably run from the I a lot, just a guess. But we’ll be able to throw out of it as well.

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by rufio on May 1, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come this time next year, looking at our 2 first rounders, I’ll be ecstatic.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’ll be cool. And very un-brownsish!

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by LondonBrown on Apr 30, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record, I’ve been thinking our first pick will be top 5 too. Not that I want it to, by any means, but with all new coaches and all new systems including the switch from 3-4 to 4-3, it’s going to take time.

I’ve always thought all our coaching positions will filled by guys Holmgren was forced to settle with.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’ll be better than last year. That final 5 game slump was just unfathomable.

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by LondonBrown on Apr 30, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best case scenario: colt is awesome and we have 2 late 1st rounders to use on maybe an elite LB like Vontaze Burflict or the Te’o guy from ND and a FS (like Janzen Jackson or the clemson guy) and we have the makings of an all pro D.

Worst Case Scenario: Colt mccoy sucks, we get a top 10 pick, and use the second 1st rounder to trade up for Luck.

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by bross09 on Apr 30, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction:
Best case scenario: colt is awesome and we have 1 late 1st rounder (ours), while Ryan’s poor season ending injury results in 1 early-to-mid rounder

Worst Case Scenario: our coaches are revealed to be hacks

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our coaches can’t be hacks, they were picked by Holmgren, and HE’S A WINNER!!!!

by Legoman0721 on May 1, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you Fat Fairley hog certain of that?

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by Dawg Nuts on May 1, 2011 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Larry Asante come from Nebraska?

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yessim.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

place your bets on who mr. irrelevant will be.

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by da36chamberz on Apr 30, 2011 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t have the slightest clue.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope there is some free agency and we pick up Sanzenbacher, Herzlich, Homan as prospects.

by HenryDawg on Apr 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

C’mon Herzlich

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

No we can still sign him as a UDFA if that situation ever gets resolved

by HenryDawg on Apr 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that situation ever gets resolved

Now it’s back to reality… where that crap will seemingly never get resolved.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well even though the 8th is generally pro-business, I think they will have a tough time allowing the lock-out.

by HenryDawg on Apr 30, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point, I’m rooting for the fastest possible route to get our rookies learning the new system. That’s the 8th withholding the ruling.

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by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll guess Lefeged.

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by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL… still don’t know. The guy couldn’t read the name.

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by Brownsyup on Apr 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is Mr. Burns on stage? Fuck this dude.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Mr. Irrelevant is irrelevant I really wish they would kill that schtick

by HenryDawg on Apr 30, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude get’s a car. I’d be happy with that.

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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed. Since I missed todays draft looking at a car meself.

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