Cleveland Browns 2011 NFL Draft Day 3 - Open Thread (Part II)
This will be the final open thread for this weekend's draft festivities. The Cleveland Browns still have three picks remaining -- two in the sixth round and one in the seventh round.
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FIST!
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
pump (i guess).
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Ew.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
relitivly speeking however, im still disapointed in this TE FB shananagins
by nickmar19 on Apr 30, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i wouldnt mind if todmans there in the sixth, i would take him. insurance for hardesty.
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by findlaybrownslover on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really hoping Herzlich.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
McElroy.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at that crap. Pats just sit there and nab Marcus Cannon
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I want a punter and a long snapper to bring in a develop behind Dawson and Pontbriand. Gotta build for the future!
"Quote goes here."
Dawson’s punting now, eh?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Didn’t you hear? He beat Reggie in a sword fight and absorbed his powers. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
"Quote goes here."

Did someone say SWORDFIGHT?
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Long Snappers have to be able to catch in the WCO. You can never have enough depth
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t wait till these players and this team prove you wrong yet again.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
like MoMass, Veikune, Robo right?
oh, maybe like Haden. I get owned every time he gets burned by a white dude and intercepts a jump ball
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It wouldn’t be an issue if you could join the rest of civilization in admitting Haden is a player.
by Roger Dorn on Apr 30, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Robaire Smith is slow off of the ball, too.
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Oh yea. And Brett Ratliff, Mosley, Barton, and all the other jet cast-offs who aren’t on the team/suck own me daily
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If we got Haden I’d be extremely pissed. There is no player I’d be more pissed about
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 22, 2010 5:16 PM PDT
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
thought Robo was taken a little early, but I loved the Massaquoi and Veikune picks.
By rufio. November 9, 2009
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And I’m sticking with my 10-win prediction.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Apr 30, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’ll see your 10 and raise you 5!
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Apr 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Why Ward before Burnett/Jones?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
The haters are, for some irrelevant reason, saying that he pointlessly compared Clausen to recent number one picks. The purpose of it was to show that irrationality of the Clausen detractors compared to other 1st round QB who didn’t receive this much hate. And it makes sense. How can people, which a lot of people have done on this forum, say hes not a 1st round QB when he’s has better natural tools, and great production in a pro style offense than every other QB taken with less talent around him?
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Damn Skippy!
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree, damn skippy. Jif is much tastier.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
by Dawg Nuts on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
DRAFT ME HECKERT. NOW.

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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I have a soft spot for them as well. I’m waiting a few years for Swigert. Hometown player.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that the cancer guy? Take him for PR. Plus he’s a freakin’ stud.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes and YES.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
just keep him away from the cleveland clinic
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by findlaybrownslover on Apr 30, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like a new euphemism for a male climax.
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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I thought that too.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d call him Jacexam.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at the front page brah.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You couldn’t just tell me? dick.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Buster Skrine, CB.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Apr 30, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a good feature on the fullback we drafted on ESPN during the college season, going to see if I can find it online.
I love that pick. Stanford homer here.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m more of a Harvard Marge.
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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Woah, serious? I’m not watching.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured we would
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
McElroy?
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason Pinkston. OT
I met a fairy today that granted me one wish. "I want to live forever," I said. "Sorry" said the fairy, "I'm not allowed to grant wishes like that!"
"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
"You crafty bastard," said the fairy.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions
Nice, I like it.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
thank god. go die somewhere, St. Clair.
"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping
by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
anyone know what that costs us?
"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping
by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
solid sounds good compared to st. claire
by davus on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From 9:05 AM today, by me:
Interesting candidates still on the draft tracker…OL Jason Pinkston, LB Casey Matthews, CB Brandon Burton, CB Buster Skrine, S DeAndre McDaniel
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crazy. good work!
"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping
by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re the best, daddy.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
none at all? we had two.
"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping
by discoinferno083 on Apr 30, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
41 career starts but durability is still a concern. Injured left shoulder during the third game of the 2007 season (Michigan State) underwent surgery and missed the rest of the year. Missed the 2008 Sun Bowl against Oregon State after injuring right shoulder during a practice.
Commitment to strength and conditioning needs to be investigated further by any teams considering drafting him. Has experience lining up at fullback in short-yardage situations. Served as a junior volunteer fireman for the South Baldwin fire station while in high school. Cousin Todd Pinkston played receiver in the NFL for six seasons. House was robbed in 2010. Reportedly escaped out of a window with friend when heard robbers confronting another friend in another room and called 911.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
A lineman that can fit through a window? I don’t like it.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He thought thin.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ve taken two Pitt Linemen now who can fit through a window.
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by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Exactly where my skepticism comes from.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a player teams should feel comfortable asking to protect the blind side. Average arm length and can overset to the outside. Lacks the lateral mobility to recover from false steps. Doesn’t sink hips enough. Gives too much ground when quicker defensive ends get into frame before gets set. Leans into defenders and vulnerable to push pull moves. However, can protect the edge when lines up on the right side. Quick enough to beat most left ends to the corner. Gets sound hand placement. Does a nice job of anchoring against bull rush and mirroring defenders once locked on.
Can get under defender, roll hips and generate above-average push but inconsistent in this area. Doesn’t sink well despite relatively low center of gravity and not nearly as effective when doesn’t keep pads down. Slips off blocks. Plays with a narrow base and leans. Would not fit well in zone heavy scheme at this point. Initial quickness is just adequate and doesn’t always cover enough ground with first step. While doesn’t have great agility and has some problems adjusting to moving targets in space shows adequate body control and can cut off linebackers at the second level. Shows better range on film that timed speed would suggest and can get around the corner when asked to pull.
Can block through the whistle and get under defenders’ skin but doesn’t play with the same chip on his shoulder every play. Gives too much ground and needs to be more aggressive in pass protection.
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QB.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
…There is so much more to that story than the simplicity of falling down the stairs.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
So a new thread opened up while I wasn’t paying attention, this is the cheat sheet I was talking about.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
Is there a Madden 10 sheet? That’d be nice
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Found it. Awesome.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Was about to tell you there was, but I had deleted it from my bookmarks.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Also scroll down to the very bottom of the 10 list and I believe that’s the one with who some prospects were modeled after.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, I saw that name too.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow that’s in depth.
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It’s very nice.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually learned about it two years ago from someone here.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmgren, Heckert, and Shurmur holding a live press conference at 3:15, stream at http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Live-from-Berea/507ea6df-224f-4a55-881a-83913de2a5d1
Live feed of reporters talking to each other right now. lol
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s BS. Draft in going on.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, we don’t pick again til the end of the 7th.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how everyone’s just chilling.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The Browns were told that they needed to trade at least 1 of their 6th round picks because the NFL Network thought that taking a 3 pick commercial break would be a bit too long
by superbacker56 on Apr 30, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If this years draft pans out will never doubt heckert again – but I’m puzzled and disappointed. Went in hoping for AJ or Peterson and would have stoked with jones. Now I’m down because we went on mission on giving those picks back and using mid picks on weird positions. Hopefully will look back fondly on draft but for now – meh
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
by realmccoy on Apr 30, 2011 3:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I’m probably headed out soon. rufio, if you’re still here, can you cover the seventh-round pick (or if we trade up again)?
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Heckert mentioned both special teams and the word backup when talking about Merecic.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
Tight lipped about Vickers though.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmgren less actively involved this year in the draft and making selections. “This was Tom’s draft”
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Shurmur said Pinkston projects as a G at the moment.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
Beat you.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Not on my screen.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Refresh.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I did, yours is still after mine.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Tom says Marecic is strict FB. Says he’s really good.
Says Cameron and Moore are similar but different. Says he’d rather have two Moores than one. Says it’s always important to grab a playmaker for O.
Still says Josh is our guy.
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Says he’d rather have two Moores than one.
More than one Moore is just plain greedy.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Apr 30, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
We were all clamoring for more Moore during the season.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
First thing Holmgren says about his opinion of Jordan Cameron is just “Wow”.
I think this was a holmgren pick the way he talks about him (especially with the USC connection).
“Add another weapon to the offense can only help”
(Heckert on Cameron). Also talks about liking having two 6’5’’ guys.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
“Tremendous upside” being used a lot.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Low overall, high potential grades.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we’ve got some high overall in the first few rounds.
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Indeed.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
“I think our receivers are underrated and I don’t know if we know what they can be”
“The offense we’re going to run is a little more geared toward getting the ball in their hands”
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
“I think our receivers are underrated and I don’t know if we know what they can be”
“I think we have good receiver right here but this man (Little) is a good addition to the group”
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Once again, me and Ruf got it. You can chillax.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Crank it to 11.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair I could have said the same to you a while ago.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Chillax bro.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re the one getting uptight with Bross and I.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmgren doesn’t care for sushi, there was a large amount in the draft room.
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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
HECKERT’S FAVORITE PART OF THE DRAFT.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wootcaps
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude has gained some pounds, obviously.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Loving what Heckert was saying about Cameron being so head and shoulders above everyone else that we had to pick him despite our lack of need.
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Yep. Based it on the board, not position.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
No one can understand why Heckert is so bananas over Cameron.
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*Slow whistle.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
SB can get behind a tight end.
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by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“tight” end. Dirty.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Holmgren continues to make really bad jokes and it’s over.
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He’s right though, there will definitely be a draft next year.
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Well, of course.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked how he responded to: What if there’s no draft?
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
Haha, funny how they leave it on.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Grossi?
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by golanbatrac on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Another guy pretended he was getting a phone call and has left.
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by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So exciting.
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by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Mary Kay Cabot stole something.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Shurmur looked uncomfortable up there. Either he’s a puppet or he suffers from anxiety.
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He has gotta fix his greasy looking curls.
Heckert looked fat and the Walrus looked like a walrus.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Heckert is fat with very small hands.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
cute :)
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
San Fran is getting to you.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Quiet you silly boy! ;)
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
But he’s more like humpty dumty
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i know this is really mean, but I can’t stop associating Heckert with Bill Paxton in Weird Science.

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You think his head tampers off too?
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
tapers*
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of coaches are weird. Think Billichick.
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no way. it’s awesome.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
They sell cut off hoodies commercially now don’t they?
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t think so. gotta pay $90 for one and cut your own sleaves off.
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
They interviewed him on NFLN yesterday. Was very very awkward. Tried to talk and would get cut off by Mayock a lot.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta be a little crazy to want to lock yourself in a room and watch video for nights on end.
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Even weirder was him being in a suit and him trying to keep good posture.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear God you are so funny right now.
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by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Haden was on ESPN for a minute and I missed it, what was he saying?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
DAMNIT. Me too.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he was talking about giving the commissioner a hug last year.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
oh.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
they had an odd thing about giving hugs to the commissioner now then you go on stage. I think he said something about “you want to give him a friendly hug, not a tackle hug”.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Only black guy in the room just left; no one said bye to him, might all be racist.
"Quote goes here."
by Adrock2099 on Apr 30, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
You need a hobby.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
SO DAMN FUNNY.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m reading this hours afterwards and damn near pooping my pants because I’m laughing so hard.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 1, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Pats don’t take Herzlich, we should.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
GAH, I KNOW.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s get Greg Romeus.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Apr 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
Joseph Lefeged is still available? That would be great if he lasted till our pick. Would fill a need too.
Brownsyup
I fell asleep a couple hours ago. Did I miss anything cool? When’s our next pick?
Man, I feel out of it.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
nm, up in 22 picks.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn it I passed out at about 2:30, missed the trade up for the OT.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
We’re getting old.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
30 is the new 80, in my case.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Its the other way around you lazy shitheads. Now get off my lawn.
by HenryDawg on Apr 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This cracked me up. Well done.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m listening to a lot of the conference call videos on clevelandbrowns.com, and I must say the questions theses interviewers are asking are really dumb and in no way informative.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Gotta love the 15 second pauses, too. The players keep thinking they’ve been hung up on.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Yeah, we’ll have to wait until the actual press conferences before we get any decent interviews with these guys.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I’ll put together another 2011 Browns Draft: YouTube Reels fanpost once all our picks are in.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Links, not embedded please.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
But the videos don’t actually load unless you want them to, so I figured it wasn’t to bad?
I liked the idea of conveniently picking the ones each person wanted to watch, without having to open a new tab/window each time.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Embedded youtube links kill my computer. I think others had similar problems last year. Lots of people (myself included) lose the use of the z button at times with even a single embedded video.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I see. It’ll take longer, but it’ll be worth it, I’ll take 1 screen shot for each video and have links.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
yes
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If you mean that Herzlich guy.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel bad for him. He was a high first round pick at one point.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Herzlich fell because of steroid rumors. He had cancer, so it’s understandable why he’d need a little bump in his training, but NFL teams were worried his quick recovery last season was tied to the PED use.
He’s a good guy and recently reached out to an Ohio high school player who was diagnosed with cancer. I really hope he catches on somewhere and has a career.
I wish they could just hush it up due to “extenuating circumstances”. If there ever were extenuating circumstances, I figure cancer would fall into that.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Brownsyup and Bernie, you guys around?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I need to leave and we haven’t picked yet.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
We picking in 5 mins.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
oh my we are picking soon, time to go to a commercial break
There's a new sheriff in town, his name's McCoy
by da36chamberz on Apr 30, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL you called it. We’re on the clock!!
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else tired of getting reminded that we haven’t made the playoffs since 02?
Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.
by North Coast Flea on Apr 30, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions
Hagg has the size, speed and instincts in coverage to contribute immediately as a sub-package reserve could become a starter in time. Can play man against tight ends and slots, shows good awareness in underneath zone, very capable of covering the deep half and flashes the ability to play in deep cover one. However, doesn’t make enough plays when in position and around the football. Can be drawn down by the play-fake and can be a tick slow diagnosing and reacting to the run. Durable, productive and reliable in coverage.
A crap load of tackels, 5 INTs, and 14 tackels for losses last year. I like it.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I obviously can’t spell tackle.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Apr 30, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Off-topic: Anyone else excited to watch the 2011 Top 100 Players?
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
?
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the top 100 players that are currently in the league right now, ranked by the players that are currently in the league.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
That’s stupid. Joe Thomas is number 1. Why watch it.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’ve always had a thing for Top Lists Countdown shows, as long as the topic is interesting.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Haha same. And NFLN has a ton of them.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
if he isn’t, the whole thing is bullshit, and he’ll pancake the entire network.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
When was it on? I just got back home from work
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Simms begs to differ.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on Apr 30, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
when is that? you would think after seeing that commercial 1,000 times i would remember
There's a new sheriff in town, his name's McCoy
by da36chamberz on Apr 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It was about the 876th viewing of the commercial that finally sold me.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Speaking of commercials I’m so tired of these 2 commercials on the NFL channel that I’m ready to throw a football through the TV. One is the “You Don’t Own Me…” ad about the women’s football jerseys and the other is that one showing kids and players on the bus with all the chanting. It is on almost every break. I bet they air 60 times a day and have for months.
Brownsyup
Aww, boo! I guess it’s an episodic thing, tonight is only episode 1. Shame, I thought it was some big special.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Pretty damn solid
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by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess so.
Just getting in and todays picks are no what I was expecting! Especially the TE & FB in the 4th.
Still, you can tweak your team down there.
I’m also wondering whether or double NT formation will resemble the Williams pairing at the Minnesota. In the words of my boy, that would be So Cool
This Space available for Rent!!!
That fullback is a monster.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Vickers?
Actually as a west coast FB has to catch I can see Vickers being on the way out. He’d be deadly if anyone was still running the I.
This Space available for Rent!!!
Come this time next year, looking at our 2 first rounders, I’ll be ecstatic.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
For the record, I’ve been thinking our first pick will be top 5 too. Not that I want it to, by any means, but with all new coaches and all new systems including the switch from 3-4 to 4-3, it’s going to take time.
I’ve always thought all our coaching positions will filled by guys Holmgren was forced to settle with.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Best case scenario: colt is awesome and we have 2 late 1st rounders to use on maybe an elite LB like Vontaze Burflict or the Te’o guy from ND and a FS (like Janzen Jackson or the clemson guy) and we have the makings of an all pro D.
Worst Case Scenario: Colt mccoy sucks, we get a top 10 pick, and use the second 1st rounder to trade up for Luck.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Correction:
Best case scenario: colt is awesome and we have 1 late 1st rounder (ours), while Ryan’s poor season ending injury results in 1 early-to-mid rounder
Worst Case Scenario: our coaches are revealed to be hacks
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
if that situation ever gets resolved
Now it’s back to reality… where that crap will seemingly never get resolved.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Why is Mr. Burns on stage? Fuck this dude.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dude get’s a car. I’d be happy with that.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Apr 30, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

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