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The Sunday Five: Extended Draft Edition

"The Sunday Five" is a loosely-titled piece where I talk about five NFL- or Browns-related topics related to this past week. Earlier today, I had my traditional edition of The Sunday Five. This special edition covers five random thoughts I had about how things went down for the Cleveland Browns during the three days of the draft.

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When we did our SB Nation writer's mock draft over at Mocking the Draft, in the first two rounds I ended up taking DT Marcell Dareus and DE Adrian Clayborn for the Browns. I would have preferred it if the Browns could have come away with both of those players, but as expected, Dareus was gone by by the time Cleveland was on the clock at No. 6 overall and Clayborn was taken in the first round. Alas, I mock drafted too ideal of a draft to be true. As I'll touch on after the jump, that didn't stop Tom Heckert and company from following a similar strategy that I did.

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I went defensive tackle in round one and defensive end in round two. Heckert ended up doing the same thing, just with different personnel and at a different slot (in the first round). With that considered, I was very pleased with the back-to-back selections of DT Phil Taylor and DE Jabaal Sheard. It isn't like there was a ridiculous drop off in talent between the pair of players, and on top of that, Cleveland added an extra first-round pick in 2011. They also moved their third-round pick up a little bit to a late second-rounder when you look at the net result and were able to select WR Greg Little. I know it wouldn't have been a huge difference in selections, but I don't think Little would have been available in the third round.

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The Browns had a lot of needs heading into the draft. On defense, they could've used help at defensive line, linebacker, and the secondary. The secondary was invested in last year and is the best unit on the defense right now. The linebackers are "iffy," but this wasn't a strong linebacker class after Von Miller. Defensive line was our biggest defensive need, and coincidentally, this draft was deep with linemen. Taking advantage of that back-to-back in the first and second rounds addressed our defensive needs very well.

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After addressing defense, the next priority on our list was to fine some new playmakers for the West Coast Offense. Heckert ended up adding three intriguing prospects back-to-back-to-back, and not the ones you might have anticipated heading into the draft: WR Greg Little, TE Jordan Cameron, and FB Owen Marecic. All three players have size, toughness, and are quick. Considering Chansi Stuckey is gone and Carlton Mitchell is unproven, this gives Cleveland a fresh group of talent for Colt McCoy to work with. I could really end up seeing either Mohamed Massaquoi or Brian Robiskie being pushed aside with a lineup of Little and one of those two receivers in the starting lineup, Cameron and Evan Moore splitting time as a slot receiver, Ben Watson being the traditional tight end, and Joshua Cribbs coming in when the Browns show more of a running package as a good blocker. rufio has some WCO features coming up, so we'll have a ton of time to talk about exactly how these pieces can fit together.

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Who was the best mock drafter this year? Sure enough, Rick Gosselin made a triumphant comeback to the top of the list for 2011, according to Huddle Report. Our very own Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft scored highly this year too, finishing tied for fifth place. In the past two years, Dan is tied for being the second-best mock drafter, only behind Gosselin. Before I head off, I'd also like to promote a piece that Jason from our Eagles affiliate wrote. He attended the draft live as part of the media and blogged about how the draft went down from his perspective in round one. Here's what he said about the Browns:

Universal jeers for the Atlanta trade up for Julio Jones. They gave up two first round picks, a second and two fourths to move up to #6 to take WR Julio Jones from Alabama. One member of the media here called it a "franchise changing haul" for the Browns. Another said it was "another Herschel Walker deal" referring to the bounty of draft picks the Cowboys got for Herschel Walker, which ended up being the foundation of their 1990s dynasty.

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Ricky Williams deal, maybe. Everyone has learned from the Herschel deal. Less than 1% odds of that kind of pillaging ever occurring again.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 1, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

If nothing else, our receiving corp got bigger. Not a bad thing.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

I only wish we got 3 firsts, 3 seconds and a third.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess Joe Thomas went to Pakistan.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like that they found him in a mansion.

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by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And here I thought they were calling him the predator drone.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on May 2, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another said it was “another Herschel Walker deal” referring to the bounty of draft picks the Cowboys got for Herschel Walker, which ended up being the foundation of their 1990s dynasty.

I would not mind if this turned out to be accurate.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

For the record: I’ve been calling for a Browns dynasty thru the 20Teens. lol

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

A new suspect in the ‘89 Amy Mihaljevic case. Sadly, they questioned this guy back then. Apparently wasn’t asking the right questions.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

In all seriousness, we don’t normally provide news updates here.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldnt help but point out the added historical significance of last night. A dead BinLaden, and a possible closure to one of the most well know child murders, 22 years later.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t F with Anon.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently this one wasn’t Anon’s doing. Or Geohot. Geez, Sony sure likes to piss off hackers, don’t they?

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by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, I bet it was Anon in some capacity. Sony calls out a lot of hackers and they always get raped in the end.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone on facebook linked a “funnyjunk” picture saying this. Pretty funny.

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by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s making the rounds. Funny as hell.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously resent your seriousness.

Please consider a direct email or fax in the future.

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on May 2, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, Geraldo!

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s hope Julio Jones makes Atlanta feel like they just opened Al Capone’s Vault.

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by Dawg Nuts on May 2, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could rec this multiple times.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Says a lot about your sense of humor. Or lack thereof.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think your reply could probably say the same thing about you. That Nancy Grace reference was hilarious.

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by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laugh out loud every time I see it.

by emily522 on May 2, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. So funny I forgot to laugh after the first time. Hilarious? Not. Especially since its coming from the guy who ‘broke the news’ to DBN about Bin Laden only a short time earlier. Apparently, I’m the brunt of some inside joke for you. Whatever get you off, is your business. Lets’ keep it that way.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only been here since March. Guess I should just be happy, I finally got welcomed. Even if it was sarcastically. Thanks, again Golan. lol

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently, I’m the brunt of some inside joke for you. Whatever get you off, is your business. Lets’ keep it that way.

Where the flying fudgems did that come from? I think you need to maybe take that foil hat off and not read so much into someone making a funny reference. And if I think something is funny I’ll say so. So no, I won’t just “keep it that way.”

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by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever dude. Thank you, Judge Judy

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

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by Adrock2099 on May 3, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 3, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I WANT ONE! Ohio’s a big ‘gun show’ state. Why have I never seen that? lol

G-o-l-a Gola go-go-go-go Gola Well I'm not dumb but I can't understand,

by MWP333 on May 3, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine this would make deer hunting in OH or WV very easy. :)

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 3, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure. Hook that baby up to some flood lights and damn the cows, full speed ahead!

I am effing hurdling you and you can't stop me.

by JustBob on May 3, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another 50 pounds and Heckert’s in the mix at Right Tackle.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Haha, it’s pretty damn crazy how much he’s changed since coming here.


Essentially the opposite of what happened with Mangini.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

30 at 30. Then 40 at 40.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

his wife is PISSED

Moisture is the essence of wetness.

by troy145 on May 2, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

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by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

You got to imagine the stress level with being a NFL GM plays a huge role in his weight gain.

Anyone else think he looks like Paulie Jr. from OCC?

by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

You got to imagine the stress level with being a NFL GM plays a huge role in his weight gain.

True. What’s really interesting is… You got to imagine the stress level with being a NFL coach played a huge role in his weight loss.

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by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Referring to Mangini that is.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

he must be gettin pudgy off Holmgren’s diet.

If we don't resign Phil Dawson until he retires from the league I'm going to cry like a little sissy boy.

by Brownsbacker488 on May 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the reason they got rid of Mangini, his weight loss was making the FO look bad.

by Villeslgr on May 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They talked about crammin’ the sushi in the war room during the draft… how much sushi does it take to get that doughy?

by Vududawg on May 2, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he must be dipping it in ranch dressing. hard to get that big on sushi alone.

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by Dawg Nuts on May 3, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

What if they ate an ocean pack?

"I wasn’t asked to catch the ball and go out in the flats and run routes, because that wasn’t how our offense was," Lawrence Vickers said. "Now people are lying and people think I can’t catch. I guess I shouldn’t have started knocking people out."

by Villeslgr on May 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he must be dipping it in ranch dressing bacon grease. hard to get that big on sushi alone.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 3, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now there’s an idea.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds delicious.

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by Dawg Nuts on May 3, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, he looks awful in the picture above compared to this. I hope he doesn’t have a massive heart attack before he’s able to score big with those extra picks next year.

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by Dawg Nuts on May 2, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stress and age will do that to a man. He did look pretty bad at the press conference on Saturday.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has got to get a handle on his health. Nothing is worth sacrificing that.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on May 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s hold a benefit concert for him. We need SB rings.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also think this may have been more than a year or two ago.

This picture is more recent when he was with the eagles…

But it definitely seems like he gained some in cleveland (unless even this pic is several years old)

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland doesn’t even have any great food!

Good thing that no trans fat ordinance was passed…

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by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland doesn’t even have any great food!

You haven’t been looking hard enough.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anthony Bourdain claims to ‘often fantasize about making his home’ in Cleveland.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heart that show. Was so pumped when he came to Cleveland and we got our very own episode. Everywhere else in the rustbelt all got lumped together.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on May 2, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it that one show where this dude just eats a crazy amount of crap?

I hate that show. Cool Cleveland was signified as awesome as it should be, but I really hate that show. It’s annoying.

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by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it that one show where this dude just eats a crazy amount of crap?

No.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that’s “Man Vs. Food.” Anthony Bourdain was a really good chef who became a really good writer. He then parlayed that into making a really good travel show.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on May 3, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Though I’ve made television all over the world, often in faraway and "exotic" places, it’s the Cleveland episode that is my favorite–and one about which I am most proud.”

http://blog.travelchannel.com/anthony-bourdain/read/the-original-goodbye-splendor/?fbid=7SuM-1RqmDa

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Awesome. I’d never seen that piece … Thanks for posting.

by DontCallMeJoey on May 3, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t go to Clveland very often and if I do, most of the bars are 21 and older. I just meant we aren’t famous for anything in particular. I know I used to go to one great restaurant right off the Gund and Jake though. It was an a corner, but that’s about as much as I can remember.

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by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot of good food around, though you’re right in saying there probably isn’t one thing in particular that Cleveland excels at. I’m particularly fond of a few of the asian restaurants, and then there’s always places like Melt, The Happy Dog, or Westside Market, to say nothing of everything around East 4th.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The asian restaurants are good. I would also add Zach Bruel and michael Symon restaurants and (once I go there on my 21st) GLBC.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 3, 2011 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t always go to Cleveland—but when I do…

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 3, 2011 3:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it! I had meant to make a joke about that.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

… I apparently never eat at any restaurants. And drink Dos Equis instead of Great Lakes Brewing Co. like a FOOL.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on May 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tommy hungry … Tommy want wingy …

by DontCallMeJoey on May 3, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah, woah, woah. Stuckey’s gone? As in, off the roster? Since when? How?

Stuckey watch: 31/30. Haha! I AM SET YOU UP THE BOMB!!!!

by BrownDawg1409 on May 2, 2011 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

News to me too.

WOOf! WOOf!

by MWP333 on May 2, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

as if that’s a big deal…

If we don't resign Phil Dawson until he retires from the league I'm going to cry like a little sissy boy.

by Brownsbacker488 on May 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 2, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, don’t worry about it. You only have to wear it until the season starts.

Stuckey watch: 31/30. Haha! I AM SET YOU UP THE BOMB!!!!

by BrownDawg1409 on May 2, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am thinking about taking it as an avatar for a while in honor of this epic year.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on May 3, 2011 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

We should make a ritual. We can never drop the avatar, it can only be passed.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on May 3, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, that’s a good ideal. Maybe some kind of prediction or something and whomever is last has to use it?

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like where this is going. We need to find a good way to determine the “passing of the torch.”

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by Dawg Nuts on May 3, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farthest prediction on gameday wears it for a week.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on May 3, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it…we just need a prediction to agree on. Hillis yardage, McCoy yardage, Scores?

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 4, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or we could change it each week in a fanpost to something different for each game?

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 4, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree. That is fantastic.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 3, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t even remember the avatar you had before this.

by emily522 on May 2, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do. Good ole’ Rob…

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on May 2, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had Braylon’s mugshot for a while as well.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No shit? Was that payment for a lost bet too?

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on May 2, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie should stay the hell away from Vegas, for sure.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

just for fun I believe. Its always cool to make fun of Braylon whenever you log in to DBN and he had it built in.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or wait – is that TheDriveStillHurts old pic before he turned into Bill Clinton?…

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi

by burntorangeandbrown on May 2, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was TDSH. I think Bernie’s last one was Braylon’s mugshot.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one I had before this was the “In Rob We Trust” Obama style poster.

I miss it.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh right, I wanted you to go to the “CHANGE. Into a Truck.” Obama poster when the dude was holding the picture sweepstakes.

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by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shepard Fairey, well known street artist, guy who created the HOPE poster, started that trend. Politics aside, he does some really cool art work. This is my personal favorite.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got sued didn’t he? And no care about who started the trend or his artwork.

If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.

by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was sued for copyright infringement, I’m not sure how the case concluded. Personally, I think street art is awesome, aesthetically. Banksy, Ron English, Shepard Fairey.

If you care it, that’s fine. I was just making a comment that was related to this specific conversation.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked it, never knew the background on the guy.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, and before that, I think it was a pic of the real Bernie Kosar.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 3, 2011 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Brian Sipe.

"Quote goes here."

by Adrock2099 on May 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure it was bernie.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 3, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a free agent; I assume we won’t resign him.

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by Chris Pokorny on May 2, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Luck Next year?

If McCoy doesn’t show any progress?

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by Max Strauss on May 2, 2011 6:49 AM EDT reply actions  

We’re going to have to be the worst team in the league in order to have any shot at Luck. Barring any drastic injury, Luck will go first overall.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said it in another thread, but people said this same thing about Jake Locker.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

From what I’ve been hearing, Luck is on another level, like the QB version of Suh.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a prospect of course.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s probably a better prospect, and he likely will be the first pick next year. But it’s no sure thing.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is always that chance that Luck could fall if the teams that have the first few picks are more or less set at QB. It would be hard for example to imagine Detroit, St. Louis or the Panthers taking a QB early next year. Of those teams maybe the Panthers have a chance of picking first. I don’t know if a team has ever traded out of the first pick… maybe a swap like what happened with Eli Manning and Phil Rivers. If the Browns tank this year and end up with a 4th or 5th pick, there would need to be a team without QB need at the first pick to have a chance at Luck.

Brownsyup

by Brownsyup on May 2, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to throw it out there this year. St Louis and the Panthers I don’t know about, but Detroit will atleast be a .500 team this year at worst.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 2, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that. They are definitely on the uptick.

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by Brownsyup on May 2, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If healthy, I think they’re a better team than we are, that’s for sure.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Rams are going to win that crap division for the next 5 years.

by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prediction: Buffalo gets the #1 overall pick.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They took Dareus knowing they’re in the running for Luck next year.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

possibly.

Even if buffalo gets the #1, I think they would entertain offers for both of our firsts, plus maybe a 3rd for luck if we wanted to.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It won’t be necessary. Colt will see to that.

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by Dawg Nuts on May 2, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so. I forgot to mention that this is all if the worst case scenario happens and colt fails.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s no sure thing.

Valid point, there’s definitely no sure things in the NFL draft.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Thomas heard that.

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by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you’re still here, then he took it easy on you.

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by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just a bit of an honor?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s askin’ for it again.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have me in stitches.

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by North Coast Flea on May 2, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jake Locker never had a 70% Completion % or threw for 3,000 yards

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it was reported that he was in the 70% realm while on the run throwing. He was pretty shatty inside the pocket though.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on May 2, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats like saying _ batter is .320 when batting with a 3-0 count. So? what is his BA in all situations?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

except isn’t on the run supposed to be harder?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, thats true. weird analogy I guess.

what I really meant to say is that being able to throw on the run doesn’t mean all that much. But with a guy like locker whose strength is athleticism, its not surprising he throws his best on the run

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on May 2, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless we trade up. Either way it’s unlikely we take him unless he throws someone through a window or gets thrown out of Stanford.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’d require a major haul of picks. I think a lot more than our 2 firsts next season.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

correction: Atlanta will have to be the worst team in the league >:D

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by troy145 on May 2, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’d be epic. I’d settle for anything in the top 15. An injury to Ryan is the only thing that could make that possible, maybe not even that just for the top 15. They are stacked.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then we’d be picking at 1 and 32.

Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.

by North Coast Flea on May 2, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Worst teams drafting high next year will be (in no particular order)

Tier One: Panthers, Bengals, Raiders, Cardinals or 49ers
Tier Two: Bills, Titans, Redksins, Vikings (may win enough games to keep them out of the top 5)

Bills, Cardinals, 49ers will need QB’s – Luck will likely go to one of these teams. IMO

by SBP on May 2, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would venture that Luck is going first overall regardless of who is picking. A QB prospect like him always goes first … whether it’s for the team w/ the first selection or for a trade.

by DontCallMeJoey on May 3, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it was obvious that they would have to fluffer up their undemocratic switch to the 4-3 with some personnel. Somehow they choked on getting the linebackers suited to it.

by mooncamping on May 2, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Undemocratic, huh? Whom would you have liked to see granted the franchise in Browns-defense-opotamia?

by DontCallMeJoey on May 3, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

stalin would have you snuffed out for your insubordination and disrespect regarding the switch to the 4-3, though…

by DontCallMeJoey on May 4, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe your best work ever here, moony. i am quite speechless.

by DontCallMeJoey on May 5, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joyce would be jealous.

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In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on May 5, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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