The Sunday Five: Extended Draft Edition
"The Sunday Five" is a loosely-titled piece where I talk about five NFL- or Browns-related topics related to this past week. Earlier today, I had my traditional edition of The Sunday Five. This special edition covers five random thoughts I had about how things went down for the Cleveland Browns during the three days of the draft.

When we did our SB Nation writer's mock draft over at Mocking the Draft, in the first two rounds I ended up taking DT Marcell Dareus and DE Adrian Clayborn for the Browns. I would have preferred it if the Browns could have come away with both of those players, but as expected, Dareus was gone by by the time Cleveland was on the clock at No. 6 overall and Clayborn was taken in the first round. Alas, I mock drafted too ideal of a draft to be true. As I'll touch on after the jump, that didn't stop Tom Heckert and company from following a similar strategy that I did.

I went defensive tackle in round one and defensive end in round two. Heckert ended up doing the same thing, just with different personnel and at a different slot (in the first round). With that considered, I was very pleased with the back-to-back selections of DT Phil Taylor and DE Jabaal Sheard. It isn't like there was a ridiculous drop off in talent between the pair of players, and on top of that, Cleveland added an extra first-round pick in 2011. They also moved their third-round pick up a little bit to a late second-rounder when you look at the net result and were able to select WR Greg Little. I know it wouldn't have been a huge difference in selections, but I don't think Little would have been available in the third round.

The Browns had a lot of needs heading into the draft. On defense, they could've used help at defensive line, linebacker, and the secondary. The secondary was invested in last year and is the best unit on the defense right now. The linebackers are "iffy," but this wasn't a strong linebacker class after Von Miller. Defensive line was our biggest defensive need, and coincidentally, this draft was deep with linemen. Taking advantage of that back-to-back in the first and second rounds addressed our defensive needs very well.

After addressing defense, the next priority on our list was to fine some new playmakers for the West Coast Offense. Heckert ended up adding three intriguing prospects back-to-back-to-back, and not the ones you might have anticipated heading into the draft: WR Greg Little, TE Jordan Cameron, and FB Owen Marecic. All three players have size, toughness, and are quick. Considering Chansi Stuckey is gone and Carlton Mitchell is unproven, this gives Cleveland a fresh group of talent for Colt McCoy to work with. I could really end up seeing either Mohamed Massaquoi or Brian Robiskie being pushed aside with a lineup of Little and one of those two receivers in the starting lineup, Cameron and Evan Moore splitting time as a slot receiver, Ben Watson being the traditional tight end, and Joshua Cribbs coming in when the Browns show more of a running package as a good blocker. rufio has some WCO features coming up, so we'll have a ton of time to talk about exactly how these pieces can fit together.

Who was the best mock drafter this year? Sure enough, Rick Gosselin made a triumphant comeback to the top of the list for 2011, according to Huddle Report. Our very own Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft scored highly this year too, finishing tied for fifth place. In the past two years, Dan is tied for being the second-best mock drafter, only behind Gosselin. Before I head off, I'd also like to promote a piece that Jason from our Eagles affiliate wrote. He attended the draft live as part of the media and blogged about how the draft went down from his perspective in round one. Here's what he said about the Browns:
Universal jeers for the Atlanta trade up for Julio Jones. They gave up two first round picks, a second and two fourths to move up to #6 to take WR Julio Jones from Alabama. One member of the media here called it a "franchise changing haul" for the Browns. Another said it was "another Herschel Walker deal" referring to the bounty of draft picks the Cowboys got for Herschel Walker, which ended up being the foundation of their 1990s dynasty.
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Ricky Williams deal, maybe. Everyone has learned from the Herschel deal. Less than 1% odds of that kind of pillaging ever occurring again.
WOOf! WOOf!
Has anyone seen Hillis lately? Reports coming in that Osama is dead…
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
by troy145 on May 1, 2011 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I guess Joe Thomas went to Pakistan.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“US Missile” is military code for “Joe Thomas pancake.”
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
And here I thought they were calling him the predator drone.
Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.
by North Coast Flea on May 2, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Another said it was “another Herschel Walker deal” referring to the bounty of draft picks the Cowboys got for Herschel Walker, which ended up being the foundation of their 1990s dynasty.
I would not mind if this turned out to be accurate.
"Quote goes here."
A new suspect in the ‘89 Amy Mihaljevic case. Sadly, they questioned this guy back then. Apparently wasn’t asking the right questions.
WOOf! WOOf!
Welcome new poster, Nancy Grace!
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
In all seriousness, we don’t normally provide news updates here.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Couldnt help but point out the added historical significance of last night. A dead BinLaden, and a possible closure to one of the most well know child murders, 22 years later.
WOOf! WOOf!
It’s amazing all that we can get done when the Playstation Network goes down.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Don’t F with Anon.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently this one wasn’t Anon’s doing. Or Geohot. Geez, Sony sure likes to piss off hackers, don’t they?
"Quote goes here."
Meh, I bet it was Anon in some capacity. Sony calls out a lot of hackers and they always get raped in the end.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously resent your seriousness.
Please consider a direct email or fax in the future.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on May 2, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think your reply could probably say the same thing about you. That Nancy Grace reference was hilarious.
"Quote goes here."
Yeah. So funny I forgot to laugh after the first time. Hilarious? Not. Especially since its coming from the guy who ‘broke the news’ to DBN about Bin Laden only a short time earlier. Apparently, I’m the brunt of some inside joke for you. Whatever get you off, is your business. Lets’ keep it that way.
WOOf! WOOf!
Apparently, I’m the brunt of some inside joke for you. Whatever get you off, is your business. Lets’ keep it that way.
Where the flying fudgems did that come from? I think you need to maybe take that foil hat off and not read so much into someone making a funny reference. And if I think something is funny I’ll say so. So no, I won’t just “keep it that way.”
"Quote goes here."

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
I WANT ONE! Ohio’s a big ‘gun show’ state. Why have I never seen that? lol
G-o-l-a Gola go-go-go-go Gola Well I'm not dumb but I can't understand,
I imagine this would make deer hunting in OH or WV very easy. :)
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
Another 50 pounds and Heckert’s in the mix at Right Tackle.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Haha, it’s pretty damn crazy how much he’s changed since coming here.

Essentially the opposite of what happened with Mangini.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
You got to imagine the stress level with being a NFL GM plays a huge role in his weight gain.
Anyone else think he looks like Paulie Jr. from OCC?
by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You got to imagine the stress level with being a NFL GM plays a huge role in his weight gain.
True. What’s really interesting is… You got to imagine the stress level with being a NFL coach played a huge role in his weight loss.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
he must be gettin pudgy off Holmgren’s diet.
If we don't resign Phil Dawson until he retires from the league I'm going to cry like a little sissy boy.
by Brownsbacker488 on May 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
They talked about crammin’ the sushi in the war room during the draft… how much sushi does it take to get that doughy?
he must be dipping it in ranch dressing. hard to get that big on sushi alone.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
he must be dipping it inranch dressingbacon grease. hard to get that big on sushi alone.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
Now there’s an idea.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on May 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, he looks awful in the picture above compared to this. I hope he doesn’t have a massive heart attack before he’s able to score big with those extra picks next year.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
Stress and age will do that to a man. He did look pretty bad at the press conference on Saturday.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s hold a benefit concert for him. We need SB rings.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I also think this may have been more than a year or two ago.
This picture is more recent when he was with the eagles…
But it definitely seems like he gained some in cleveland (unless even this pic is several years old)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Cleveland doesn’t even have any great food!
Good thing that no trans fat ordinance was passed…
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Cleveland doesn’t even have any great food!
You haven’t been looking hard enough.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Anthony Bourdain claims to ‘often fantasize about making his home’ in Cleveland.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I heart that show. Was so pumped when he came to Cleveland and we got our very own episode. Everywhere else in the rustbelt all got lumped together.
"Quote goes here."
Is it that one show where this dude just eats a crazy amount of crap?
I hate that show. Cool Cleveland was signified as awesome as it should be, but I really hate that show. It’s annoying.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
“Though I’ve made television all over the world, often in faraway and "exotic" places, it’s the Cleveland episode that is my favorite–and one about which I am most proud.”
http://blog.travelchannel.com/anthony-bourdain/read/the-original-goodbye-splendor/?fbid=7SuM-1RqmDa
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Awesome. I’d never seen that piece … Thanks for posting.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 3, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t go to Clveland very often and if I do, most of the bars are 21 and older. I just meant we aren’t famous for anything in particular. I know I used to go to one great restaurant right off the Gund and Jake though. It was an a corner, but that’s about as much as I can remember.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a lot of good food around, though you’re right in saying there probably isn’t one thing in particular that Cleveland excels at. I’m particularly fond of a few of the asian restaurants, and then there’s always places like Melt, The Happy Dog, or Westside Market, to say nothing of everything around East 4th.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t always go to Cleveland—but when I do…
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Damn it! I had meant to make a joke about that.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on May 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Woah, woah, woah. Stuckey’s gone? As in, off the roster? Since when? How?
Stuckey watch: 31/30. Haha! I AM SET YOU UP THE BOMB!!!!
as if that’s a big deal…
If we don't resign Phil Dawson until he retires from the league I'm going to cry like a little sissy boy.
by Brownsbacker488 on May 2, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
As far as I’m concerned, it could have happened about 15 catches ago. Damn it. -———————————————————————→
by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Ah, don’t worry about it. You only have to wear it until the season starts.
Stuckey watch: 31/30. Haha! I AM SET YOU UP THE BOMB!!!!
by BrownDawg1409 on May 2, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I am thinking about taking it as an avatar for a while in honor of this epic year.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
We should make a ritual. We can never drop the avatar, it can only be passed.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 3, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, that’s a good ideal. Maybe some kind of prediction or something and whomever is last has to use it?
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
Farthest prediction on gameday wears it for a week.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 3, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it…we just need a prediction to agree on. Hillis yardage, McCoy yardage, Scores?
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
I do. Good ole’ Rob…

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on May 2, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He had Braylon’s mugshot for a while as well.
Dawgs by Nature -- where Mike Holmgren, apparently, 'did some good things'.
No shit? Was that payment for a lost bet too?
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on May 2, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Or wait – is that TheDriveStillHurts old pic before he turned into Bill Clinton?…
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. -- Vince Lombardi
by burntorangeandbrown on May 2, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That was TDSH. I think Bernie’s last one was Braylon’s mugshot.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The one I had before this was the “In Rob We Trust” Obama style poster.
I miss it.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh right, I wanted you to go to the “CHANGE. Into a Truck.” Obama poster when the dude was holding the picture sweepstakes.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Shepard Fairey, well known street artist, guy who created the HOPE poster, started that trend. Politics aside, he does some really cool art work. This is my personal favorite.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
He got sued didn’t he? And no care about who started the trend or his artwork.
If you haven't watched Inception, do it now. Right now.
by SpecialBrownie on May 2, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He was sued for copyright infringement, I’m not sure how the case concluded. Personally, I think street art is awesome, aesthetically. Banksy, Ron English, Shepard Fairey.
If you care it, that’s fine. I was just making a comment that was related to this specific conversation.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I liked it, never knew the background on the guy.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, and before that, I think it was a pic of the real Bernie Kosar.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
He’s a free agent; I assume we won’t resign him.
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by Chris Pokorny on May 2, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Luck Next year?
If McCoy doesn’t show any progress?
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We’re going to have to be the worst team in the league in order to have any shot at Luck. Barring any drastic injury, Luck will go first overall.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I said it in another thread, but people said this same thing about Jake Locker.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
From what I’ve been hearing, Luck is on another level, like the QB version of Suh.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
He’s probably a better prospect, and he likely will be the first pick next year. But it’s no sure thing.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
There is always that chance that Luck could fall if the teams that have the first few picks are more or less set at QB. It would be hard for example to imagine Detroit, St. Louis or the Panthers taking a QB early next year. Of those teams maybe the Panthers have a chance of picking first. I don’t know if a team has ever traded out of the first pick… maybe a swap like what happened with Eli Manning and Phil Rivers. If the Browns tank this year and end up with a 4th or 5th pick, there would need to be a team without QB need at the first pick to have a chance at Luck.
Brownsyup
I’m going to throw it out there this year. St Louis and the Panthers I don’t know about, but Detroit will atleast be a .500 team this year at worst.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
I think the Rams are going to win that crap division for the next 5 years.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Prediction: Buffalo gets the #1 overall pick.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
They took Dareus knowing they’re in the running for Luck next year.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
possibly.
Even if buffalo gets the #1, I think they would entertain offers for both of our firsts, plus maybe a 3rd for luck if we wanted to.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
But it’s no sure thing.
Valid point, there’s definitely no sure things in the NFL draft.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Joe Thomas heard that.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I was pancaked seconds after pressing the POST button. I’ve been struggling to comment from the hospital ever since. I consider it a bit of an honor that he graced my presence.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
If you’re still here, then he took it easy on you.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on May 2, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just a bit of an honor?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on May 2, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
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"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on May 2, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
You have me in stitches.
Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.
by North Coast Flea on May 2, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake Locker never had a 70% Completion % or threw for 3,000 yards
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I believe it was reported that he was in the 70% realm while on the run throwing. He was pretty shatty inside the pocket though.
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
thats like saying _ batter is .320 when batting with a 3-0 count. So? what is his BA in all situations?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
except isn’t on the run supposed to be harder?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
yeah, thats true. weird analogy I guess.
what I really meant to say is that being able to throw on the run doesn’t mean all that much. But with a guy like locker whose strength is athleticism, its not surprising he throws his best on the run
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Unless we trade up. Either way it’s unlikely we take him unless he throws someone through a window or gets thrown out of Stanford.
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by golanbatrac on May 2, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
correction: Atlanta will have to be the worst team in the league >:D
Moisture is the essence of wetness.
Then we’d be picking at 1 and 32.
Evil wins again, but Truth prevails where Good fails.
by North Coast Flea on May 2, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Worst teams drafting high next year will be (in no particular order)
Tier One: Panthers, Bengals, Raiders, Cardinals or 49ers
Tier Two: Bills, Titans, Redksins, Vikings (may win enough games to keep them out of the top 5)
Bills, Cardinals, 49ers will need QB’s – Luck will likely go to one of these teams. IMO
by SBP on May 2, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would venture that Luck is going first overall regardless of who is picking. A QB prospect like him always goes first … whether it’s for the team w/ the first selection or for a trade.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 3, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it was obvious that they would have to fluffer up their undemocratic switch to the 4-3 with some personnel. Somehow they choked on getting the linebackers suited to it.
Undemocratic, huh? Whom would you have liked to see granted the franchise in Browns-defense-opotamia?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 3, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
stalin would have you snuffed out for your insubordination and disrespect regarding the switch to the 4-3, though…
by DontCallMeJoey on May 4, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I gave in to the monosybillic despotic group imperative demands here, at the cost of my enjoyment of proper 3-4 delight in defensive prowess. Dear Stalin, lesson one for aspiring communists: Eliminate the leaders and the conflict degenerates.
by mooncamping on May 5, 2011 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
maybe your best work ever here, moony. i am quite speechless.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 5, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Joyce would be jealous.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on May 5, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions

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