Stopping the run in the 4-3 Defense
The Cleveland Browns have run a 3-4 in the recent past, but with new head coach Pat Shurmur and new defensive coordinator Dick Jauron coming to Cleveland, the smart money is that we'll run a 4-3.
The defense won't just look different, it will probably function a lot differently than those we've run recently. So how will we stop the running games of the Baltimore Ravens, Pittsburgh Steelers, and Cincinnati Bengals? It's all after the jump.
Principles
In reality, a 4-3 defense isn't that much different than a 3-4 defense because there is one less linebacker and one more defensive lineman on the field. It's the way the linemen are (usually) asked to play and what they (usually) do after the snap that constitutes the major differences between a 4-3 and a 3-4. For simplicity's sake, I'll refer to these things as "4-3 principles" and "3-4 principles", but keep in mind that there may be teams who line up one way and play with the other set of principles.
Simple = Quick
Linemen switching to a 3-4 defense will sometimes complain about having to "think too much" and not being allowed to "just play." 3-4 principles require linemen to read the play as it is happening and react to it. The 4-3, however, is predicated on turning linemen loose. In a 4-3, linemen each have one gap assignment; they are responsible for controlling the area between two blockers and tackling the ball carrier if he comes through their assigned gap.
Let's say that we are lining up in a "normal" 4-3 defense with a TE. The DL would be responsible for the weakside C gap, weakside A gap, strong side B gap, and strong side C gap:
It's just arithmatic
Utilizing normal "pro" personnel, the offense presents 7 gaps on the line which the defense must defend. That's perfect for the defense because 4DL + 3LB = 7 players to fill those gaps.
Things get tougher for the defense, however, when the fullback is introduced into the running play. The fullback presents an extra gap that the defense must account for--a gap that a skilled offensive coordinator can place anywhere along the line.
In order to successfully defend the run against 21 (2 RB, 1 TE) personnel, the defense must do one of two things:
- Cover two gaps with one player OR
- Bring another player up to cover a gap.
How the Browns will do this and in what situation will probably vary. For example: if you always bring a safety up in run support on 3rd and 4, that's a tendency other teams can scout and exploit. That's the sort of thing that coaches pull all-nighters to find out, and that sort of knowledge can make or break a key 3rd down play for your team.
Go with the flow
Below, I'll show how a 4-3 team would determine gap fits based on the flow of the backs. I'll show where a team could use a player to "two gap" or could bring a safety down to fill after the play is determined to be a run. There are three ways a two-back play could flow: flow strong (both backs to the tight end side), flow weak (both backs away from the TE), and split flow (one back each way)
Flow Strong
When the SAM backer reads flow strong, he will attempt to maintain outside leverage on the FB. He will get outside to the E gap that was just created by the FB, and he will "set the edge."
The MIKE will fill between the TE and FB in the D gap.
The WILL backer could either attack the A gap right away or be assigned both the front side A gap and the weak side B gap. If someone from the secondary is responsible for the cutback into the weak side B gap, the WILL backer can shoot the A gap and maybe make a TFL. This can also look like a blitz, which makes your defense's film harder to study.
Flow Weak
With the backs going away from the TE, the WILL backer will get outside the FB and set the edge, defending the D gap and turning runs back inside. If the FB blocks inside in the B gap, the WILL takes the gap just outside the FB.
The MIKE will go fast to the B gap. This is key because he will want to make the LG block him to prevent a double team with both the LG and C on the DT.
The SAM then becomes the player assigned two gaps; the backside A gap and the backside D gap. Obviously, a defensive back could be introduced to the run fit to eliminate the need for the SAM to two-gap.
Split Flow
If one back goes each way, the SAM and MIKE will key the RB. Between the two of them, they must cover the strong side D and strong side A gap if the RB continues away from the FB, or the weak side B gap and strong side A gap if he cuts back.
The WILL will key the FB and maintain outside leverage on him.
Play Fast
Notice how the gap assignments of the DL stay the same throughout each of these run fits. Every defensive lineman can fire off of the ball and get into his gap quickly. The reads for the LBs are mostly easy: key a back, then follow him a specific way into one of the gaps that is open. If done correctly, this should lead to a fast, attacking defense.
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this is all good information, but it almost seems like common sense. i’m sure there are plenty of football fans out there that don’t know this stuff, but i figure if your crazy enough about football to post on a message board like this you’re likely a crazy enough football fan to know a lot of in-depth information like this, as well. i’m sorry if i offend anyone, but that’s just my point of view.
If we don't resign Phil Dawson until he retires from the league I'm going to cry like a little sissy boy.
by Brownsbacker488 on May 19, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
I think you’d be surprised. There are a ton of people that love football but never played, so they don’t know most of this stuff.
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by notthatnoise on May 19, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i only played in 7th grade so it must be all the Madden football i’ve played on Playstation.
If we don't resign Phil Dawson until he retires from the league I'm going to cry like a little sissy boy.
by Brownsbacker488 on May 19, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The AI in Madden is not good enough to figure out run fits with a FB.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
But the point of this is that it is supposed to be simple so that LBs can play instinctively and quickly. It’s what to do when the other team schemes against a specific run fit that can be complex; the cat and mouse game.
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if your crazy enough about football to post on a message board like this you’re likely a crazy enough football fan to know a lot of in-depth information like this
That may be true for a high percentage of the bloggers on here, but I freely admit that I’m largely ignorant of many of the nuances and ’X’s and ’O’s of the NFL game. One of the reasons I like this blog is because its been quite an education and I’m guessing there are plenty of others in the same boat. I love this stuff. Keep it up rufio.
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by burntorangeandbrown on May 19, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I’m as passionate about all of Cleveland’s sports as the next guy, but when it comes to formations and play calls I’m as lost as Cam Newton.
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by Adrock2099 on May 19, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Nice. actions >> Rec
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by burntorangeandbrown on May 20, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Here, hear! It’s definitely instructive and, when I forget what Rufio previously posted and have to be pointed back to it, it’s reinstructive.
Still, this doesn’t answer the question of whether we’ll be playing the Straw Man or Slippery Slope defense.
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No matter which one we end up playing, it will be totally awesome and virtually impossible to run or pass against.
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by JustPlainBrowns on May 19, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Rufio needs to be D coordinator over mr Dick.
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by discoinferno083 on May 19, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Rufio needs to beD coordinatorhead coach over mrDickShurmur.
If we don't resign Phil Dawson until he retires from the league I'm going to cry like a little sissy boy.
by Brownsbacker488 on May 19, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i just want to openly state/ re-iterate the fact that I am truly truly afraid of the sup-par heights of medicority to which Dick Jauron could carry our defense.
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by discoinferno083 on May 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
sub-par, even.
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by discoinferno083 on May 19, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would even settle for consistent mediocrity if we can the offense hummin’ again.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on May 19, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, the guy has always had solid defenses no matter where he went.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 20, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Bad head coach, good coordinator. For all of our love of Rob Ryan, Jauron actually has the better track record as a coordinator.
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by notthatnoise on May 20, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
didn’t we already show numbers that at best, Dick’s D’s finished what, 10th best in the league?
wow.
sign me up.
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by discoinferno083 on May 21, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
When was the last time we were 10th best at anything?
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on May 21, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
2002. We were exactly 10th in the league in points allowed by our defense.
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Who was the Def Coord?
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by JustPlainBrowns on May 21, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I had trouble tracking that down and just reviewed his bio. He had an interesting coaching career. I had also forgotten that he took over the reins from none other than RAC before Belichick brought him to New England.
Sorry to hear of his passing in 2009.
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In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on May 21, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I would do a freakin’ backflip if we finished 10th in defense.
We finished 22nd in the league last year.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 21, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
meh. i guess i see what you’re saying.
i still don’t like Jauron.
but oh well. So much for personality.
winning would trump flavor, I suppose.
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by discoinferno083 on May 21, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally off topic here – but I wanted a reply quick so I’m putting this on an excellent and recent post.
How the heck do you send a PM on this site?!?!? I feel like an idiot – I’ve looked all over the place (and in the FAQ’s) and can’t seem to figure it out.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
If that means a private message, I don’t believe you can.
by Bernie19Kosar on May 20, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I did mean PM, and I would swear I have seen people put “I will PM you about it later” etc. in posts here. Maybe they meant they were doing it on another site?
Good news is I’m not going blind or missing something obvious. Thanks.
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some people have their e-mail available on their profile page, and if you need a way to get in contact with a certain poster that’s probably the best way to go about it.
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by notthatnoise on May 20, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
The difference between the 4-3 and the 3-4 is one less linebacker and an extra defensive lineman, and it makes a huge difference. In the 4-3 the line is expected to redirect rushing traffic inside at the middle linebacker, while the outside linebackers are much more prone to the short passing game and being outplayed if the ball carriers do get passed the Defensive Ends. The defensive tackles usually play off a ways because their prerogative is at least redirect the runningbacks decision which hole to choose, if they can´t get him. Engaging and separating from the blocker is much more important.
The 3-4 to me is much cooler, the defensive linemen can concentrate on fighting the offensive linemen, and the linebackers can own and dominate their areas and make it much less comfortable to access different choices, the discouragement factor to ball carriers having to choose their poison is much more potent. The DBs don´t have to compensate for sparsely covered areas and are much more capable of participating in gang tackles.
by mooncamping on May 20, 2011 6:14 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Thanks for the excellent post, very informative. I played all through Jr. High and high school, but played in the secondary as a cb/safety and had an excellent dl/lb’s to play behind and still didn’t have full knowledge of what those big nasties were doing. Thanks again.
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by athensdawg on May 20, 2011 8:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I. Loved. Running. Stunts.
Also loved being put at 0 in a 4-3. Bear defense is the defense I recorded my first sack in.
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I got my only sack on two point conversion. We would bring the safety down, in a four point stance over the center. When the oline would set I slid in between the center and guard, when the ball was snapped I was quick enough to bear crawl between the two, the qb never saw me coming.
by athensdawg on May 20, 2011 10:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hated stunts, because if I as involved as a defensive end it meant I wasn’t edge rushing, which is what I was good at.
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by notthatnoise on May 22, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
what about the 2-2-3?
or the 2-3-2?
or the 2-2-2? (nickel package)
or the 1-2-3-1?
or the 1-2-1-3?
or the 3-1-2-1?
or the 3-2-2-1? (did you catch the 8th man in the box?)
or the 2-2-2-1?
You see where this could go. The possibilities are limitless and Jauron is a Yale man. Lemme know if you want me to do a fan post on this.
Let’s go Browns!
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In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on May 20, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
Excellent post. I’d love to know more about the nuances of the old school 4-3 with two stay at home DTs and crashing ends (say 80s redskins- Mann & Manley with Butz/Rocker etc in the middle) compared to something like the Vikings used to run, with Doleman lined up at DE but way, way wide, Millard almost playing 3-4 DE and Henry Thomas trying to clog up the middle almost as a conventional NT.
Can’t recall who the other DE was but think he was nicknamed the Samoan Sack man?
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by golanbatrac on May 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, many of those defenses were before my time. If you have cutups I would love to watch, but just guessing based on what you are talking about DTs 2-gapping (“3-4 principles”) maybe? I expect us to do something similar to this with Rubin and Taylor next year. I have an 88 Redskins playbook and they seem to have run a lot of fronts, even a few that are essentially a 3-4 alignment with 4-3 personnel.
The front with a DE way wide sounds like a version of the 4-3 Under, maybe. Some teams like to line that rush DE (on the left here) up at a 9-technique, which would be outside of a TE if there was one. #4 in that shot is a safety who is up as an 8th man in the box. The LBs are 43, 58, and 10 who is the furthest on the right.
One more; the double-eagle front. This one has 2 guys at 3 techniques and one at a 0- or 1-technique. The DE/4th lineman is head up on the end man on the line to the right, while the other DE is over the OG at a 3 technique to the left.
With the photos of both the Under and Double-Eagle fronts, USC was lucky enough to have Clay Matthews play as a DE. He would stand sometimes, but he was playing as a DE. Sorry if that makes it confusing.
In any event, many of these fronts work the same way as described above, just with different guys playing different gaps. Sometimes they might have a NT who is the two-gap player instead of having a LB do it like I diagrammed above.
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