How Many Current/Former Browns Make the List of Least Valuable Players?
Over at the Grantland blog (where Bill Simmons is editor-in-chief), an article was published titled, "The 25 Least Valuable Players in the NFL." Four players still in the league with affiliations to the Cleveland Browns had the honor of being put on that list. In fact, the top two players on the list were members of the Browns. Can you guess who they were?
Let's start off with the non-Browns on the list. Coming in at No. 17 was offensive tackle John St. Clair, and coming in at No. 12 was quarterback Derek Anderson. St. Clair couldn't block to save his life at times, and Anderson failed to even come close to becoming the second coming of Kurt Warner.
St. Clair's appeal has been as a utility lineman, but teams have mistaken his willingness to play tackle for ability. It was St. Clair who launched Elvis Dumervil's career into orbit with a four-sack game in Week 2 of the 2009 season.
Anderson's career rests on a few good games against terrible opposition in 2007, and the only guy with a lower completion percentage over the past five years is JaMarcus Russell.
So, which two players at the top of the list were also members of the Browns? That would be safety Sabby Piscitelli and quarterback Jake Delhomme, for reasons outlined below:
After a dismal 2009, Piscitelli responded to losing his job in camp by all-but-invoking "Operation Shutdown"; he got back into the lineup after rookie Cody Grimm broke his ankle, promptly gave up a touchdown after biting on a run fake, and got cut anyway. His unique mix of blown tackles, dreadful instincts, and inflated ego really make him the worst player to see regular time in the NFL over the past several years.
…But he wasn't making $19.7 million at the time. Thanks to somehow-employed Panthers GM Marty Hurney forgetting to stick offset language in Delhomme's contract, the Panthers and Browns combined to pay Delhomme nearly $20 million last season. The Panthers were probably better off than the Browns, since they didn’t have to line up Delhomme at quarterback for five games. The permanently shell-shocked passer threw an interception every 21.2 attempts, converted just 27.5 percent of the third downs he faced, and put up one of the most awe-inspiring terrible lines of the 2010 season by going 12-of-20 for 86 yards and an interception against the Bills in Week 14. His existence as a highly paid quarterback would make more sense only if he was the walking, breathing example of the players’ case against the owners in the lockout.
Piscitelli's assessment doesn't reflect his time in Cleveland, and he probably won't be retained. Neither will Delhomme in all likelihood. That means heading into next year, the Browns shall have ridden themselves from being named on this list!
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Nice post. Think the author was right on with DA and St. Clair – and a little harsh on Jake and Sabby. The reality is that Jake improved the QB postion from both DA and BQ. He provided leadership, and made major contributions in training camp with an excellent pre-season. I know it is only preseason, but having a successful training session is important to the cohesiveness and improvement of the entire offense. The 2010 offense was not great – but the watchability vs. 2009 offense was up prox 73%. What is indefensible, is that after all those years in the NFL – he will throw some of the most ridiculous interceptions in the NFL – and at the worst times. That is inexcusable – but I still give him some props on leadership of the team that made him less “less valuable” than DA.
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
yeah i would’ve rated DA lower than Delhomme also, and i agree that Jake upgraded our offense from 2009 even if just a smidgen. but Jake is awful and ought to get cut unless he’s willing to take a very cheap 3rd-string backup role. but i know there are other free agents out there that are more capable than he is at this point in that role. and from the looks of it with McCoy i don’t know if he really needs a veteran mentor anymore.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 12, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather have a young QB prospect than Delhomme as the 3rd string QB. Holmgren made a living in GB of developing youngsters and then trading them for early draft picks (Brunell, Hasselback, et al) But while his best days are behind him, he would be a “better than average” 3rd string QB – so if cheap I would welcome him also.
Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen
i would definitely take a younger guy over Delhomme. i can’t remember who posted it and in whichever thread it was, but there were several names mentioned as free agent QBs and it shouldn’t be that difficult to find one. i’ve always liked Billy Volek, and i know he’s not real young anymore, but i feel like he’d be an upgrade over Delhomme.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 13, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t argue with any of that. Makes me a little nervous that Holmgren may think he’s some sort of Quarterback whisperer.
by HenryDawg on Jul 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Moon’s not gonna like this.
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by 24rubikscube on Jul 12, 2011 6:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
it’s Piscitelli that he really likes, right? i honestly don’t even know who he is, and i usually keep a pretty close eye on our roster throughout each season.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 12, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew people that thought we should have taken Levi Brown over Joe Thomas. Glad we dodged that bullet.
I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League
by 24rubikscube on Jul 12, 2011 6:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fear not, for chances are they’ve already been pancaked.
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by North Coast Flea on Jul 12, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i was going to half-seriously say Sabby before i even looked.
who knew this guy was even relevant to this conversation?
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by discoinferno083 on Jul 12, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
I probably wouldn’t know who he was if it werent for Moon. lol
I thought they’d have Sheldon Brown on there. Not because I thought he belonged, but that he’s well known, and coverage isn’t his specialty.
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by 24rubikscube on Jul 12, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
How in the hell did Brady Quinn not make the list?
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A ghost!
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by notthatnoise on Jul 13, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
AH!
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by North Coast Flea on Jul 13, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It’s ok. We do exist.
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by Brownie's Year on Jul 13, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Banned for life (but only for about a month)?
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
It was longer than a month.
You think you know, but you don’t know.
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by Brownie's Year on Jul 13, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You lost me.
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by golanbatrac on Jul 13, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s just leave it at that, bro.
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by Brownie's Year on Jul 14, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
AH!
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by North Coast Flea on Jul 13, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good to have you back.
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by notthatnoise on Jul 14, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you, NTN. It’s good to be back.
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by Brownie's Year on Jul 14, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
is every third string QB on a first round contract and had expectations to be a starter? They did say they factored in $ and expectations. Thats why guys like Okoye were even on the list.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Derek Anderson is a good player, we didn´t release him because he was bad. We released him because he was complicit with Brady Quinn and the front office, in regards to adapting his level of play to more realistic expectancy towards the prognosticated final record. The Cardinals like him, and he has produced when given a chance.
Jimmy Clausen is the same thing, he played like the tool he was in the draft. Bradford top QB chosen, pick 1, Clausen second QB chosen, all the way down to pick 48, allowing Holmgren to snatch McCoy as third QB chosen, at pick 85. This was the worst display of QB devaluation, NCAA to NFL, ever. Clausen can play…he can play…play!…not produce like a system stooge. Apparently the Panthers have chosen the other path.
Piscatelli? Former 2nd round draft pick, he can´t be that bad. It´s clearly delineated how he had to pay for a response the DB coach didn´t appreciate, and that´s that coaches problem, not ours. Lets do our own evaluations and judgements.
St. Clair did fine, regarding our expectations.
You are too optimistic about bad players, also you forgot about God’s own grandson.
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by North Coast Flea on Jul 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
How? What?!
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by 24rubikscube on Jul 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
St. Clair did fine, regarding our expectations.
This might actually be accurate.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jul 13, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Now there’s one hell of a solution:
Someone playing bad?
1. Expect less of said player.
2. Consider their play fine, relative to expectations.
3. ????
4. PROFIT!!!
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Anyone who expected more of St. Clair than what we got out of him clearly hadn’t seen him play before he was a Brown. I’d argue that he exceeded realistic expectations here (mostly because he’s an adequate run blocker and all but one of our half dozen QBs these last two years sucked donkey dick).
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
I think it’s 100% accurate.
St. Clair played about as well as expected. He was never sold as a replacement for Tucker or Schaffer. He was just a warm body. An inexpensive warm body who, though not as good as Tucker or Schaffer, was needed given Tucker’s retirement and the ridiculous contract Phil had given to Schaffer. We basically swapped a mediocre Tackle with a gazillion dollar contract for a less than mediocre (yet experienced) Tackle with a reasonable contract. A necessary move given that we were in ‘cap hell’ that offseason.
The blame for St. Clair’s play shouldn’t fall to St. Clair (who played as expected — like a backup). The blame should fall to Mangini, and then to Heckert for not finding a solution at the position in subsequent drafts. Or to Savage, for failing to address Tucker’s rapidly deteriorating physical and mental health by drafting or signing a capable Tackle (or even a project at Tackle).
Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.
absolutely correct.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jul 13, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said.
We're going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're gonna go through him like crap through a goose. -- Patton (channeling his inner Joe Thomas)
by burntorangeandbrown on Jul 13, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Or to Savage
Savage did have a lot to do with this. i was really upset to see what happened to Tucker and i miss him a great deal, but mostly because we’ve yet to find anyone capable enough to replace him. Ryan could easily go down in the Browns ring of honor (or whatever it’s called.) there’s a reason why he started on a Super Bowl team with the Rams.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 13, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
SBN needs such a better mobile browser
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by SpecialBrownie on Jul 13, 2011 7:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Click to view it in normal full size, works fine on my phone. I’ll agree the mobile format sucks.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
can you z on yours?
All i can do is read and post, but I can’t tell what’s newly posted, which is very frustrating in a long thread
"I wasn’t asked to catch the ball and go out in the flats and run routes, because that wasn’t how our offense was," Lawrence Vickers said. "Now people are lying and people think I can’t catch. I guess I shouldn’t have started knocking people out."
Improvement to the mobile SBN is supposed to be in the works, but I have no timetable. Showing new comments (i.e. maybe the same yellow tint) was mentioned as a specific feature upgrade.
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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 13, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
it looks more orange on my computer. i don’t use a mobile device, but i suggest it stays orange! :o)
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by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 13, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I WANT THE Z!
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
seriously, the z button completely changed my experience here.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jul 14, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
it helped me a lot once i realized what it was in all those Oft Topic threads.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 14, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions

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by North Coast Flea on Jul 14, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
My only Browns jersey is of DA. I wouldn’t feel ashamed wearing it if he didn’t bash us when he left.
Adam Foote still blows!
My only Browns jersey is of DA
I feel your pain, I have Chris Spielman, Andre Rison, William Green, and Tim Couch.
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by North Coast Flea on Jul 14, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
My signed Cribbs makes up for it.
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by North Coast Flea on Jul 15, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I have 4 jerseys:
Eric Metcalf – oldest one, love it and still wear it regularly.
Tim Couch – I think I’ve made it clear that I’m a fan.
Brady Quinn – if not for the fact that it is an irregular that cost me $7, it would have been a serious mistake.
Joe Thomas – Joe Thomas.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
a McCoy shirt that has the name/number on the back
Won’t be long before half the kids in America will be wearing one of these. You’re ahead of the curve, wear it with pride.
We're going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're gonna go through him like crap through a goose. -- Patton (channeling his inner Joe Thomas)
by burntorangeandbrown on Jul 15, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can wear it ironically. Make sure to laugh and then tell people how “I take this sh** seriously!!”
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
LOL. That sounds good. I thought about adding “Anderception” on the back but I don’t like altering jerseys, no matter how much of a tool the player is. I like your idea.
Adam Foote still blows!
Just use masking tape and a sharpie, peels right off.
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by North Coast Flea on Jul 15, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions

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