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Identifying Quarterback Talent

As I'm checking NFL news on Yahoo! Sports just now I came across an article titled "Sunday Blitz" written by Dan Pompei from NFPost.com with the lead story revolving around where Nnamdi Asomugha will end up as a free agent. I would love to have Nnamdi on our team, but the price tag would just be too much when we have multiple roles to fill with our scheme changes.

What really caught my attention with this article though is when Pompei referenced Leigh Steinberg, a popular agent of players like Troy Aikman, Drew Bledsoe, Warren Moon, Steve Young and others. Steinberg doesn't claim to be a scout by any means, but he's been around the business long enough to know what some of the basic necessities are to identify quality talent in young quarterbacks. Here's what Pompei dissected from his conversation with Steinberg:

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Accuracy is an absolute necessity – and not just accuracy at the college level. A quarterback’s accuracy has to be able to project to the NFL level. Without it, a quarterback has no chance. For instance, even though Andre Ware was a Heisman winner at University of Houston, Steinberg learned Ware would have no chance at the pro level as a 51.6 percent passer.

The ability to stay healthy is critical. “You have to look at the injury history,” Steinberg said. “The ones who make it tend to have amazing resiliency. They can take contact, somehow avoid major injuries to their key joints – knees and shoulders. They have incredible pain tolerance, incredible ability to rehab rapidly. I visited Troy just after his disc surgery, and he was up and walking around. I asked him if the doctor said it was okay. He said, ‘No, but isn’t it great?’”

A quarterback has to be able to be able to elevate his play in the clutch. Steinberg talks about wanting his QBs to have a “quiet mind” when the volume is turned up. “Most games are close,” he said. “They often come down to one drive. When a quarterback has thrown interceptions, his team is behind, and he has to be perfect on a final drive, what does he do? That’s so important. You want a quiet mind. I used to see Ben Roethlisberger multitask – he would watch TV, take five phone calls, be on his computer. But he could tune out every extraneous thing, and focus on task at hand. He has a quiet mind.”

The will to be great matters. In 1998, Steinberg, on recommendations from then-Washington State coach Mike Price and Bledsoe, signed Ryan Leaf before Peyton Manning(notes) decided on an agent. He thought Leaf was going to be an NFL star. Steinberg might not have ever had a shot at Manning, but in hindsight he calls this the worst evaluation mistake of his career. “The reality is Manning is not the most physically gifted quarterback, but he has the Joe Montana qualities,” Steinberg said. “His work ethic, his desire and his intensity are all incredible.”

Strong roots make for sturdy branches. In 1993, Steinberg was in the pole position to land Rick Meier. Then he met Bledsoe. And he met Bledsoe’s family. Bledsoe’s father Mac especially impressed Steinberg. As a result, Steinberg chose to pursue Bledsoe instead of Meier. “I saw the stability and security from that family, and how his father was a great motivator,” Steinberg said. “We look at that aspect of a player’s background, his bloodlines. When I met Jim Harbaugh’s father, I knew what we had there. Steve Young’s father [LeGrande] played at Brigham Young and his nickname was “Grit.”

Willingness to be a role model reveals character. Steinberg only wanted players who would give back. “If they are interested in retracing their roots, they tend to be of high character,” he said.

The reason I bring this up is because I personally feel like Colt McCoy falls into a lot of these great characteristics. The only thing someone could really argue out of this list against Colt is his durability concerning his health. As far as I know, Colt has only had that one major injury from his final bowl game in college. Last season he had some ankle and shoulder issues, but I don't think that's enough to claim Colt "injury prone." Although this article doesn't prove anything, I simply enjoyed how encouraging this is for our young guy behind center.

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I agree that perc completion is the biggest stat. If you can’t be very accurate in college, then they’re almost always hopeless in the pros. I hope he has a good enough arm. It’s not bad. His passes have some zing. If he has the ability to be great, he will be. Phenomenal leader and work ethic.

Spergon Wynn had a 47% passing perc. in Div. 1AA football. Shocker that he didn’t make it.

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by 24rubikscube on Jul 24, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Couch was a 70+ percent passer in college, I think.

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by golanbatrac on Jul 24, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it frustrates the hell out of me that the organization threw him to the wolves with no help.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 24, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good pro QB too.

I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League

by 24rubikscube on Jul 24, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he also benefitted from a coach who has put up tons of efficient passing numbers wherever he has gone.

Colt Brennan was also a 70% comp% passer. Couch is better, but a ridiculously high comp % does not always translate. However, to be a good QB, you generally have to have thrown accurately in college.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 24, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Throwing screen passes.

"I wasn’t asked to catch the ball and go out in the flats and run routes, because that wasn’t how our offense was," Lawrence Vickers said. "Now people are lying and people think I can’t catch. I guess I shouldn’t have started knocking people out."

by Villeslgr on Jul 25, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. While a simple completion % might help evaluate a guy, it doesn’t tell the whole story. Even AYPA could be misleading; throw a screen pass to DeSean Jackson and watch him run 80 yards, that’s cheap, easy, and pretty worthless in evaluating a QB.

QBs need to at least flash the ability to make “NFL” throws; throwing guys open, hitting a corner route vs. man, dropping a ball in between a CB and S in C2, throwing a back shoulder ball, etc.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jul 25, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget throwing in on a rope (sorry – couldn’t resist :)

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by burntorangeandbrown on Jul 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that’s what this quote means:

A quarterback’s accuracy has to be able to project to the NFL level.

and i happen to agree.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 25, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the record just saw this morning that Couch holds the record for most completions in a season for the SEC.

"I wasn’t asked to catch the ball and go out in the flats and run routes, because that wasn’t how our offense was," Lawrence Vickers said. "Now people are lying and people think I can’t catch. I guess I shouldn’t have started knocking people out."

by Villeslgr on Jul 25, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He´s not looking for a QB, he´s looking for Captain America in mind symbiosis with Mr. Walton and Professor X.

by mooncamping on Jul 25, 2011 6:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I would love to have Prof. X as our QB, he could float the ball to the right spot with his mind while putting up a force field around him so his O-Line wouldn’t have to work.

(If all the nachos are stuck together, it only counts as one nacho.)

by North Coast Flea on Jul 25, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

for implying that a force field would be more effective than Joe Thomas, you will be pancaked.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

For straw manning a Joe Thomas disciple you will be pancaked. Joe Thomas blocking is a force field in it’s own right.

(If all the nachos are stuck together, it only counts as one nacho.)

by North Coast Flea on Jul 25, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find this discussion to be utterly in vain. You shall both be pancaked, for repeatedly taking Joe Thomas’ name in vain.
Now get off my lawn and go home, both of you. Kneel and pray for forgiveness for your grave lapse in judgement.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Jul 25, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not on your lawn, I’m at home protecting my own. Stay off of it.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 25, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re all welcome on my lawn. Please feel free to park your cars on it, let your kids play in it, bring your goat along, set it on fire if you want. Anything to stop me from having to mow it twice a week in this heat.

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by Clevsports on Jul 25, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWICE a week?! If my lawn gets that kind of attention it’s because I’m working real hard to avoid some other chore.

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by JustBob on Jul 25, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recant, fellow disciple. Apologies.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 25, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No harm, no foul, no pancakes.

(If all the nachos are stuck together, it only counts as one nacho.)

by North Coast Flea on Jul 25, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t remember Prof. X being able to levitate objects with his mind.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 25, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could, but Jean Grey/Marvel Girl/Phoenix was far more adept at it

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by Clevsports on Jul 25, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, whatever it is, I hope Leigh Steinberg would agree to give Colt McCoy a full season, unless we can get Jimmy Clausen or David Carr, or the extreme unlikelihood that Chris Pizzotti and Jared Zabransky get an invite to camp.

by mooncamping on Jul 26, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

you would take Clausen over McCoy? seriously? moon…come on dude…

Yvan Eht Nioj.

by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 27, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should know better by now.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 28, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i rec’d that just because of the picture-in-picture.

Yvan Eht Nioj.

by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 1, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree that it’s interesting to hear this from steinberg … but there’s virtually nothing in here that you can actually measure. all of these things are gut related, which is a good way to get fired as a scout these days.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 25, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

you’re right about almost all of these characteristics, however Colt has proven that his accuracy is very good. that much cannot be debated.

Yvan Eht Nioj.

by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 25, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

his accuracy was all-universe at texas, and slightly above average as a brown (i believe 60.9%). that’s not to say he won’t be hella-accurate as a brown, but he does still have to prove it on the field in cleveland.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 25, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, the question is how much that % can go up when he gets his mind around the NFL game a little better, and is able to make more and more decisions earlier and earlier in the play (or before the play).

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jul 25, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m also hoping the “my shoulder is fully healed now” thing is real. If so, it could be very, very good news.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Jul 25, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even I feel pretty confident he can improve here, and I’m no Colt homer.

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by notthatnoise on Jul 26, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, i have no question that he’ll improve. as rufio said, the question is how much.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 26, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jul 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i certainly expect Colt to get around 64-66% accuracy, but even if he stays 60-61% that doesn’t mean we won’t be incapable of winning games. he won’t be breaking records like Manning or Brady, but given a solid running game and defense to go with it we can still be successful.

Yvan Eht Nioj.

by Brownsbacker488 on Jul 27, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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