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Cleveland Browns 53-Man Roster Projection (Pre-Training Camp Edition)

Training camp has quickly jumped up on us. With free agency and trades taking place at a different time this season, I almost forgot that I needed to make my first 53-man roster projection of the season (as I have done in the past few years).

The first projection list is not based on much information, but just a general "feel" of what I am thinking. There will probably be 1-2 more roster projections throughout training camp, especially if the Browns sign more players and seeing how players are performing in training camp and the preseason.

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Pos Final Roster Players Cut
QB Colt McCoy
Seneca Wallace
Jarrett Brown
Troy Weatherhead
RB Peyton Hillis
Montario Hardesty
Brandon Jackson
Quinn Porter
Armond Smith
FB Owen Marecic
Tyler Clutts
WR Mohamed Massaquoi
Brian Robiskie
Greg Little
Joshua Cribbs
Carlton Mitchell
Johnathan Haggerty
Jordan Norwood
Demetrius Williams
Rod Windsor
Chris Matthews
L.J. Castile
Juan Nunez
TE Ben Watson
Evan Moore
Jordan Cameron
Alex Smith
Evan Frosch
OL Joe Thomas
Eric Steinbach
Alex Mack
Shawn Lauvao
Tony Pashos
Billy Yates
John Greco
Jason Pinkston
Steve Vallos**
Phil Trautwein
Pat Murray
Branndon Braxton
Dominic Alford
Calton Ford
Jarrod Shaw
DL Ahtyba Rubin
Phil Taylor
Jabaal Sheard
Brodrick Bunkley
Jayme Mitchell
Brian Schaefering
Brian Sanford**
Scott Paxson**
Travis Ivey
Ko Quaye
Kyle Anderson
Andre Caroll
Jabari Fletcher
LB Scott Fujita
D'Qwell Jackson
Chris Gocong
Kaluka Maiava
Marcus Benard
Titus Brown
Steve Octavien**
Derrick Addai
Auston English
Benjamin Jacobs
Brian Smith
Sidney Tarver
Alex Wujciak
S T.J. Ward
Usama Young
Mike Adams
Ray Ventrone
Eric Hagg**

CB Joe Haden
Sheldon Brown
Coye Francies
Buster Skrine
DeAngelo Smith**
Ramzee Robinson
James Dockery
Carl Gettis
Darian Hagan
ST Ryan Pontbriand
Phil Dawson
Reggie Hodges
Jeff Wolfert

 

The above list contains 53 players that I kept, and 34 players that I cut. The Browns still need to add three players to meet the 90-man requirement for camp.

Every year, I fill in each player's name either on the "roster" side or the "cut" side, without tallying whether or not I have surpassed the 53-player limit. Then, I count up the left side, and if I am over 53 players, I weigh my options and decide who the "tough" cuts are. The past two years, my initial count came to 55 players, meaning I had to cut two players I initially wanted. This year was different.

On the first draft that I made, I only had 47 players on the roster. That is a direct result of the NFL Lockout. I still think we are going to add a couple more free agents (or players via trades) to take those final six spots. Also, I haven't had enough time to get to know the undrafted free agents yet, so it's hard to pick-and-choose between them.

General Roster Projection Notes

  • I needed to add six players to the roster to reach 53 players. In general, I was pretty confident in what I had set forth on offense. I only had eight offensive linemen though, and I usually like to go with nine. I chose Steve Vallos, since he has some experience in the league (five years) and plays tackle.
     
  • The other five players needed to come on defense, and the position that was still "light" in depth was the defensive line. I only had six players there, unless you count Marcus Benard as a defensive end. I felt I needed to add two more players. For now, those players are defensive end Brian Sanford and defensive tackle Scott Paxson. I'm not crazy about either guy being in the regular rotation, but I anticipate the Browns going after another veteran. (Fingers crossed), I'm hoping it's Robaire Smith so he can play both defensive end and defensive tackle as needed.
     
  • Three more spots left. I only had six linebackers, and with special teams considerations, I think I needed another one. I'd really like to see the Browns re-sign Blake Costanzo in the next couple of days -- it would make me jump for joy. For the moment, I put Steve Octavien on the roster. He came over last year after the Cowboys released him and played a bit on special teams for two games.
     
  • And the last two spots go to...safety Eric Hagg and cornerback DeAngelo Smith. I originally had Hagg on my cut list with a plan to put him on the practice squad, but I needed another defensive back and the team had somewhat of an investment in him. I'm still hopeful we can acquire another veteran defensive back after losing out on Eric Wright. Smith got the last spot because he has played cornerback, safety, and some special teams.
     
  • Vallos, Sanford, Paxson, Octavien, Smith, and Hagg. Not exactly six guys I'm thrilled to have on the roster, so let's see if we make some more moves or if some of the UDFA's make an impression.
     
  • I don't really think I had any surprise "makes" in my original 47. The only one you might consider if quarterback Jarrett Brown, who has never played in the NFL. Honestly, it was just a toss-up between he and Weatherhead. Getting Lawrence Vickers back as a fullback would make me happy too, but that's probably a pipedream at this point.

Feel free to share your roster projections here, or some changes you would make to mine. Cleveland Browns training camp officially opens to the public Sunday morning!

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I’d really like to see us keep either brian smith or that wujciak guy both hve gotten high praise.. Also would like us to see us have haggerty or mathews, and i thought that with the new CBA we could have 54 on the final roster?

by lightninmcqueen on Jul 31, 2011 12:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nope, still a 53 man roster. The change was that 46 players can be active on gameday instead of just 45, but the third quarterback rule was removed.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh i gotcha, thanks chris. Just mis-interpreted the rule.

by lightninmcqueen on Jul 31, 2011 1:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I liked what I saw from Haggerty last year. I hope he makes the roster somehow.

"I guess I shouldn't have started knocking people out." - Vickers

by acousticswk on Jul 31, 2011 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s what i’m saying, i think haggerty could fit really well in our offense.

by lightninmcqueen on Jul 31, 2011 1:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haggerty looked really good today, which is saying a lot since the receivers looked poor from what I was seeing. They could not break out of coverage at all during drills.

Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73

by Doc's Kid on Jul 31, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to HS with Alex Wujciak and I can’t put in words how pumped I was to hear we signed him. had a stellar career at Maryland and may not be much of a freak athlete but has a high motor and is a sure tackler, just a smart linebacker who bias aside I can see doing big things in the NFL. really hope he makes our 53 man squad

by tlfoster on Jul 31, 2011 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Love the high motor guys. Every D needs 1 or 2 of them.

by HenryDawg on Jul 31, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus Wujciak just sounds like a good football name.

"... you slay the chicken and you crack the egg ..." - Moon

by JustBob on Jul 31, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially in Cleveland

by HenryDawg on Jul 31, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda interested to see how the ole Hagg does.

I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League

by 24rubikscube on Jul 31, 2011 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t realize we had brought on Ramzee Robinson.

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Jul 31, 2011 1:49 AM EDT reply actions  

he’s been clinging to an NFL life with us for a few years now. But he stinks.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 31, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad. I liked him a lot at Bama.

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Jul 31, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

God I hope we dump Vetrone. I don’t care how good at ST he is, the guy was destroyed every time he played defense.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jul 31, 2011 1:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sure it was his fault – he doesn’t have the physical capability to play safety.

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by realmccoy on Jul 31, 2011 1:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Which is another reason why I don’t want him on this team.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 1, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I probably ripped on Eric Wright more than anyone here, but damn, when it looks like Coye Francies could be your nickel really makes me feel the loss. And no, I don’t blame the FO for that one.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Jul 31, 2011 3:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Wasn’t Titus just recently cut?

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by SpecialBrownie on Jul 31, 2011 5:36 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that was DT Titus Adams.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

We over the league limit of Titus’

by HenryDawg on Jul 31, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was Titus Young

by ctowndawgpound on Jul 31, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Hillis is looking huger than normal. He must’ve been destroying the weights.

Classic mode button! =D

by SpecialBrownie on Jul 31, 2011 5:42 AM EDT reply actions  

He was pulling trucks all summer

by HenryDawg on Jul 31, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

QB
Colt McCoy
Jarrett Brown
Troy Weatherhead
RB
Peyton Hillis
Lawrence Vickers
Owen Marecic
Tyler Clutts
Evan Frosch
Armand Smith
WR
Mohamed Massaquoi
Joshua Cribbs
Greg Little
Carlton Mitchell
Demetrius Williams
L.J. Castille
TE
Evan Moore
Cameron Jordan
Greg Estandia
OT
Joe Thomas
Eric Steinbach
Phil Trautwein
John Greco
Jason Pinkston
OG
Alex Mack
Shaun Lauvao
Dominic Alford
Calton Ford
Billy Yates
DT
Phil Taylor
Ahtyba Rubin
Brodrick Bunkley
DE
Jabaal Sheard
Jabari Fletcher
Auston English
Scott Paxson
Brian Schaefering
LB
Brian Smith
Alex Wujack
Derrick Addai
D´Quell Jackson
FS
Sabby Piscatelli
T.J. Ward
SS
Abe Elam
CB
DeAngelo Smith
James Dockery
NB
Joe Haden
ST
Chris Gocong
Scott Fujita
Matt Roth

…49!…4 to spare…Justin Durant, Ernie Sims, Brian Leonard and Harry Coleman

by mooncamping on Jul 31, 2011 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

1. Elam already went to the Cowboys.

2. What’s this new offensive scheme you’ve invented that forgoes a center?

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 31, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. Not official yet, but sounds close, right?

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably enough so that I’d consider it done.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 31, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. not
2. gonna line up five guards, pulling all over the field. Screw Wildcat, this is Wild Rhino.

by mooncamping on Aug 2, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting Lawrence Vickers back as a fullback would make me happy too, but that’s probably a pipedream at this point.

Yes, unfortunately. Especially considering that someone (Marecic?) is wearing his number in the picture above.

"There is a small, but important difference between peeing in the pool and peeing into the pool." - Demitri Martin

by Browns town on Jul 31, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Vickers must have pissed someone off. I don’t understand how the FO could otherwise treat him this way.

by HenryDawg on Jul 31, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who do we cut if we bring back Vickers? An offensive lineman?

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by discgolfur on Jul 31, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could, having vWickers is like having an extra O-lineman.

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by Dawg Nuts on Jul 31, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Today it was a defensive player with his number I believe. Never saw a name.

Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73

by Doc's Kid on Jul 31, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the eyewitness accounts. I wish I could be there. Keep them coming.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 1, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

ABJ says that Benard is going around with the defensive linemen in camp so far, so I’d probably already need to add another linebacker to my list and take a Brian Sanford away.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

My first thought when I read your LB list was that so many folks on this site had said Benard wouldn’t fit as a LB in the 4-3. Looking forward to seeing what he can do at DE.

"... you slay the chicken and you crack the egg ..." - Moon

by JustBob on Jul 31, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burress is make in the Meadowlands.

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by SpecialBrownie on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

back*

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by SpecialBrownie on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Burress > Edwards. Good move for Jets.

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by Chris Pokorny on Jul 31, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec and rec.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Jul 31, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s just cus he blows

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Jul 31, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on. everyone knows that bray sucks.

Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.

by pwndabear on Aug 1, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, even as Edwards is 5 years younger.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Jul 31, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Burres will suck, but I still kinda agree.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 31, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was cheaper that’s about it.

by Brocolis154033 on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Today I saw something I hadn’t seen since 2007: someone wearing #17 caught a pass.

Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73

by Doc's Kid on Jul 31, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would get rid of Alex Smith and keep Haggerty. Hopefully send Chris Matthews to the practice squad as well as either Weatherhead or Jarret Brown (whoever is not the #3)

by HenryDawg on Jul 31, 2011 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually like the potential at DL – more nervous about:
1. Cb. 2. S. 3. Wr

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Jul 31, 2011 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Huff is still out there right? With elam pretty much gone we need a saftey

by lightninmcqueen on Jul 31, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Resigned by Oakland this morning I believe.

by Don'tBuyBrownsQBJerseys on Jul 31, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would make me jump for joy.

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by Clevsports on Jul 31, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if we’d take a look at Kelly Jennings. We could use another corner and he plenty of starting experience.

Also, he played for Holmgren for a couple seasons in Seattle.

by Bumblyjack on Jul 31, 2011 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting thought. I would be cool with that.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 1, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah Simms. I m assuming Vickers is not coming back considering some white guy in the photo is sporting #47. Is it Maeric?

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by SpecialBrownie on Jul 31, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone already said this. My bad.

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by SpecialBrownie on Jul 31, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s tight end Evan Frosch wearing 47, Marecic is listed as #48. It’s definitely safe to say Vickers isn’t coming back at this point though.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Jul 31, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to that huge canadian OL we had- Reindeers? He was on the practise squad all year wasn’t he?

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by LondonBrown on Aug 1, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

He was actually from the North Pole.

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by Dawg Nuts on Aug 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought someone snagged him off waivers.

"... you slay the chicken and you crack the egg ..." - Moon

by JustBob on Aug 1, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might be on a CFL team, but trying out for Giants now:

A couple of Argo offensive line draft picks made news south of the border this weekend. Joel Reinders, whom the Argos took with the 26th pick overall last season, had a workout with the New York Giants.

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=372990

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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 1, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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