Devil's Advocate: Draft Terrelle Pryor

Well, I’m first and the vote is 100% no. I guess you guys know which direction I’m going.

Meh, I’ve read better Advocate’s. Even with your points, Terrelle doesn’t excite me or show me anything for greatness.

You almost always convince me to take a shot at the guy, but not this time. I think he will be a cancer

I like these posts.

I like it better that the Browns never bite.

No, thank you.

That is all the Browns 3rd round draft selections since 1999.

You forgot Shawn Lauvao — that’s like forgetting Poland in my book.

TAKE HIM. Jesus, let’s have the Browns do SOMETHING exciting and risky for once. It’s a third rounder, who cares? It’s this “he’s too much of a risk, let’s hold out for a sure thing” ideal that keeps us under .500 every year.

I feel like I’m the only one without blinders on here because I don’t care about college ball at all and have no allegiance to tOSU.

I’m convinced. Then again, I was convinced on Russel before his life coach quit on him.

He is built more for the AFC North than Colt McCoy. I would take a flyer on him. Colt is not durable, and is he the smallest QB in the league. we all agree Colt has more heart and leadership…put those in Pyor’s body and …yep

Just because of the things I’m hearing about Jarrett Brown’s performance in camp it seems highly unlikely the Browns will go after Pryor. Sounds like Brown is a keeper.

I would draft him, but with a 4th or 5th at most.

Pryor was very good at OSU. He showed he can make all the throws, and he’s obviously a very good runner for a QB. I am not sold on his ability to make complex decisions in fractions of a second. He’s always had those “what the hell were you thinking?” plays at OSU and I think he’ll continue to struggle in the NFL in that key area.

OSU’s passing offense was better than a lot of people thought under Tressel, but there’s a lot of difference vs. the NFL and I don’t think I would like how Pryor reacts when he suddenly isn’t the most physically dominant player on the field.

Holmgren loves Qb’s and will probably be there. He will wnat to see first hand if there is reason to take him. After the workout Holmgren willl walk away and not think about it again. Pryor has athletic skill, but not at QB. He would bust quickly.

Are his “character problems” really that bad? Think about it, the actual scope of the violation is no worse than what AJ Green did? One is selling your game worn jersey and one is trading a similar item for a tattoo. The difference is that Tressel covered it up and there were a lot of mitigating factors (such as others doing it, the cars that he had that people didn’t like) that make him look worse but its no huge difference.

I am convinced for a 3rd rounder. 3rd rounders are nice, but after the first 2 rounds your odds of finding a great player drastically go down. Between 2002 and 2008, the Eagles had 8 picks in the 3rd and only turned 3 into starters and out of those 3, only one was ever a great starter who could stay healthy (Gocong was never amazing in Philly and Stewart Bradley can’t stay healthy). Would I trade a 3/8ths chance at getting Gocong for Pryor? Hell yes.

The “cancer in the lockerroom” aspect is overrated imo. I understand if its OchoCinco or T.O., a veteran who at least commands respect but a rookie? A rookie does not have the clout or influence with other players to make any sort of significant impact in the lockerroom.

I know players need to “suck it up” and fight their hardest if they are facing competition in the NFL, but I like the sense that Colt McCoy isn’t having to look over his shoulder. I’m content with living or dying my McCoy this season. I want to experience a season where the starting quarterback is definitely the guy. That won’t happen if Pryor is drafted. The new front office seems more keen on playing their young guys that they draft too, so I don’t think they’ll spend high.

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 NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

I think Pryor is, at best, another prospect of the level of Colt McCoy. So from a strategy standpoint I think it would be a waste for the Browns to get him. I’ve written before that I think the likelihood of McCoy succeeding in our division is very, very small. I think of him as a flyer ala Charlie Frye. There are things I like about him as a person and as an athlete but I think the odds are against him and there is a reason there are odds. Weak-armed QBs picked in the third round from colleges running the scheme McCoy was in are not often successful in this or any other division. So why add another big question mark that you have to give a chance too? You won’t know enough this year or next. I say live or die with McCoy and if it is die, we have the pick of next year’s QBs and there are some definite 1st rate prospects in that group.

Our offense has very little athleticism, for a 3rd rounder I definitely take him. Even if he flops as a QB you can still use him in packages and he can be very dangerous.

Rec’d and very convincing. So I hope you won’t be selling me my next new car… ’cause I will get raped.

Not even the devil advocates this.

I would give a 4th, and consider a 3rd for Pryor, but not as a QB. Watched all his games at OSU, liked the guy too. But, No way do I want him playing QB for my Browns. With his athleticism though, they could find a place for him. WR, TE, maybe even KR. Put him under, another college QB, Josh Cribbs’ wing in let him develop.

This conversation wouldn’t even be happening if he didn’t play for OSU. The guy was a huge disappointment and ultimately not a very good college QB.

No Thanks.

well, I’m pretty sure he’s not going to be Randal Cunningham. he achieved functional at Ohio State. what makes you think he will achieve razzle dazzle as a brown?

I feel about him like I do about Newton – I don’t really want him, but I don’t want to have to play him either.

there is no possibility that Terrel Pryor will be a better NFL QB than Colt McCoy. it’s just not going to happen, and i’m disappointed in this article because it didn’t give us any real reason why we should pick Pryor up aside from him just being a great athlete. there’s no evidence that shows us he’ll be a franchise QB like Brady, Manning, McNabb, or Rivers.

your dream scenario about having the #1 pick to trade down for two 1sts and two 2nds is nice but that’s certainly a reach with so many factors out there (ie. we’re playing a weak schedule this season, there’s a handful or more of other teams worse than us, comparing Pryor to Luck is insanity, etc.) i’m not against picking up Pryor, but to have such lofty expectations for his guy is simply irresponsible and i’m very happy you’re not our GM.

Many people are making a false value comparison of Pryor vs. McCoy. While we can only have one QB playing most of the time, we can carry both guys on the roster forever if we want to.

The choice isn’t between Pryor and McCoy, it’s between spending a pick and keeping Pryor on the roster or not. It isn’t like we would cut McCoy once we drafted Pryor, it actually improves the chances that we have a franchise QB on the roster regardless of what you think of either player.

With all the other needs the Brown’s have and all the opportunities (and cap space to do it with), why would they want to move off the plan and go after this guy? It just does not seem logical to me based on all the other decisions this FO has made.

I don’t understand the reasoning for TP for canceling his pro day workout.I know he says he’s waiting until the NFL rules on his eneligability,I’d think he would try to impress teams as soon as possible.Do teams get to have private visits with these draft prospects like the original draft?I don’t think he’ll ever be more than a backup.I wouldn’t draft him,mostly because I wouldn’t want to put the pressure on McCoy.If McCoy isn’t the answer and the Browns need to draft a QB next year,there will be better options than Pryor.I doubt they’ll be getting Luck,but I also like Landry Jones,QB from Oklahoma,among others over Pryor.
I’ll be dissapointed if they draft him,especially if they give up more than the 4th they will get from the Falcons next year.

I’ve seen some good teams shrivel and die because they started wasting 3rd rounders on bizarre projects instead of filling holes and building depth. The Broncos taking Clarrett and the Rams taking Bellisari and some other QB to play safety and wr respectively come to mind. Not saying that’s the sole reason, but ego can get in the way of picking up important players.

I would love for Pryor to come in and be a rock star, M. Vick type QB for the Browns, I just don’t think it will happen.

I’d pass on Pryor. I think the media coverage he would bring is be too big of a distraction. Also, I think the pressure would turn up on a lot on McCoy. What should have been Colt’s season to prove himself, would become 8 games. The intrigue that Pryor brings would have the media clamoring to see him play by mid-season. I agree Pryor has unlimited upside but I don’t think we are the right fit for him. I think he needs to sit for a couple seasons, so he can learn what it is to be a professional qb.

My biggest reason not to take him: If Colt sucks then we will probably be in a position to pick a Luck, Landry Jones or Barkley. I would rather develop one of those guys.

If TP would be comfortable playing some receiver, some slash packages, while patiently developing as a QB I would take him for 4th in a second.

BTW… this is a really, really great article. Thought provoking, a bit of controversy, and fun to read. Just look at all the comments. Nicely done.
One more comment from me on this… IF we were to have picked up a QB in the draft this year I’d have preferred Ryan Mallett. True… he is much slower than Pryor but he is a more accurate thrower and I’d prefer that.

I guess I have to admit that if he hadn’t screwed over The OSU I would probably wanted us to take him as a developmental project. Homerism admitted.