Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Day 12 - Massaquoi Removes the Cast
Kudos to rufio and Bernie19Kosar, who have just put out posts about what to expect from our offense this year and a reason why the team should hypothetically draft quarterback Terrelle Pryor. My computer still has not returned to life, and I've narrowed it down to either a fried motherboard or a processor gone bad. I have to decide whether to buy a replacement motherboard, or to use this time to purchase an entirely new machine. In the mean time, I'll try to keep up with posting as best as possible. Today's training camp report highlights a step forward for one of our wide receivers.
TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 12 (8/10/11)
- Bring Out the Boot: One of the top stories from today's training camp reports involved the team's No. 1 receiver, Mohamed Massaquoi. He still did not participate in practice, but the cast was removed from his right foot and replaced with a walking boot instead. This is supposedly a step forward for Massaquoi, who is projected to start practicing again after this week's game against the Packers.
- Alford Carted Off the Field: The cart had to be brought out Wednesday morning for rookie offensive guard Dominic Alford, who apparently sustained a back injury. Linebacker Chris Gocong missed practice again with a neck stinger, and defensive end Jayme Mitchell sat out with soreness in his left knee. And, this should go without saying, running back Montario Hardesty did not practice again.
- Little Gets the Crowd Roaring: When a big play happens in practice, you know it because every reporter makes sure they mention it. Today, the one that got the crowd roaring was Colt McCoy throwing about a 50-yard pass down the field. While the throw was not perfectly in stride, receiver Greg Little outjumped safety Usama Young and came away with a touchdown. Grossi said, "no one else on the team comes down with that pass."
- Third Stringers Get in On the Fun: Where were all of these deep passes when I went to the practice sessions? Third-string quarterback Jarrett Brown used his rocket of an arm to complete two passes deep down the field, and on one of the players, Brown had rolled to his right to avoid defenders. The passes were completed to Rod Windsor and L.J. Castile.
- Dockery Stands Alone: When it comes to undrafted free agents, wide receivers are the "camp" names who usually stand out the most because offense is flashy. So far, there has been one undrafted free agent to make some noise in this year's camp, and it could spell trouble for Coye Francies' roster odds: cornerback James Dockery. Dockery added two more solid plays to his resume -- a deflection on a pass by Seneca Wallace, and an interception to end Jarrett Brown's two-minute drill.
- The Other Two-Minute Drives: Above, I said that Brown's two-minute drill ended with an interception. Colt McCoy's two-minute drill ended with a 51-yard field goal that went wide by Jeff Wolfert. Wolfert has some redemption when Seneca Wallace ran the two-minute drill, as Wolfert connected on a 41-yard field goal.
- Moore Dazzles Again: Maybe we should only mention Evan Moore when he makes a bad play, because otherwise, this is going to start sounding repetitive. Moore had a "brilliant leaping sideline snag" on the first play of team drills that went for about 25 yards, according to reports.
- Sheard Gets "Something" on Thomas? How dare he! Check out Daniel Wolf's recap where he believes rookie Jabaal Sheard might have finally broken the barrier of getting an edge on Joe Thomas on one play, with the assistance of a fellow defensive lineman.
- Weather Remains Nice: When I went to Monday's practice, I predicted it would end up being the best day weather-wise of camp. It looks like I was wrong. The past two days have been even cooler temperature wise in Cleveland, so hopefully that lessens the amount of fatigue and injuries we end up seeing.
- Brownies: I'll have a post a little bit later on that discusses the team's first depth chart (for the Packers game)...running back Brandon Jackson had a rare drop that was then almost intercepted by linebacker D'Qwell Jackson...the Browns are scheduled to really start preparing for their game against Green Bay during Thursday's session.
Wide receiver Greg Little made a big play Wednesday (photo credit: National Football Authority, Daniel Wolf)Wednesday's Link Collection / Camp Sources
- Browns training camp report, August 10: plenty of deep balls (National Football Authority, Wolf)
- Browns receiver Mohamed Massaquoi out of cast on right foot (Plain Dealer, Grossi)
- Backup QB Jarrett Brown is 'wowing' fans and coaches (National Football Authority, Wolf)
- Notes and observations from Browns camp (Akron Beacon Journal, Ulrich)
- Moore creating mismatches (The OBR, Greetham)
- Browns Rapid Reports (CBS Sports, Gitlin)
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Today, the one that got the crowd roaring was Colt McCoy throwing about a 50-yard pass down the field.
Yaaaaay!
by emily522 on Aug 10, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
On a rope, no doubt.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 10, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 10, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you see how low and straight the rope seems? Great diagram.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Gravity necessitates this, yes.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Aug 12, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Without reading the comments I saw this image and McCoy threw a 50-yard pass, and I jumped to the conclusion that you were saying Hell had frozen over…
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 11, 2011 12:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL. I would hope that most folks around here realize by now that a post like this from me implicitly carries the /sarc qualifier (the “on a rope” comments in particular, which is obviously in reference to a number of past threads where the phrase became a metaphor both silly and contentious in the various amusing attempts at interpretation and definition…)
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 11, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"Where were all of these deep passes when I went to the practice sessions?"
The reports of Colt’s incessant check-downs early on in training camp was getting me really concerned…it sounded all to similar to how Brady Quinn often looked during training camp.
But now it seems to me that the progression we are witnessing in Colt’s passes has been Shurmer’s design all along. The installation of the offense looks to be a concentric one — the first couple of days emphasized short “check-off” passes, the next after that, medium range passes, and now finally 11 days in, long passes. It appears to be a nice, logical progression that is allowing Colt to gain timing and confidence at each passing level. This was especially important when we were short on vets early on either due to injury (e.g., Watson, Cribbs, MoMass) or that free agent waiting nonsense (e.g. Moore). Anyhow, I’m so glad to hear he is getting comfortable airing it out.
by Noël Pretila on Aug 10, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
The installation of the offense looks to be a concentric one — the first couple of days emphasized short "check-off" passes, the next after that, medium range passes, and now finally 11 days in, long passes. It appears to be a nice, logical progression that is allowing Colt to gain timing and confidence at each passing level
Very well put. I’ve been following reports from camp very closely and I believe you are right on the money with your assessement.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 10, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really liking how these guys are running camp. From everything I have read, its smooth, efficient, and everyone seems to be on the same page. Also the lack of running laps and other assorted BS should pay off on gameday with fresh legs.
by HenryDawg on Aug 10, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
It does seem to be going relatively smoothly. Things could definitely be a hell of a lot worse given the circumstances / big picture.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 10, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Also the lack of running laps and other assorted BS should pay off on gameday with fresh legs
Hopefully, not only will the removal of this unnecessary BS help the team in the present (e.g., fresher legs, less injuries throughout the season) but also will set us up in the future. Besides all the cap room Heckert has saved for next season and beyond to sign key free agents and draft choices, this team needs to rehabilitate its image as a place that future marquee free agents would even desire to play for. Shurmur’s coaching style seems to be moving the Brownies in this direction.
by Noël Pretila on Aug 10, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys cannot honestly think that jogging a few laps is going to fatigue an NFL player for games that are more than a day away.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Aug 11, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
seriously.
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i was thinking the same thing. i agree with most of what Noel said, but if they’re not running laps they will actually start to lose their endurance. i know this from simply missing a couple days of my own jogging routine. if i do it at least every other day, or at best every day, it’s a lot easier for me to complete 4-5 miles without breaking pace. as long as the players are staying hydrated and stretch well there shouldn’t be any major fatigue for game day.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 11, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Your point proves its uselessness. They are in condition NFL players so a few laps won’t hurt them. They are conditioned NFL players, so why add laps on their legs that will and do add to the strain of a season? It may not matter this early in the season but come week 15 it takes its toll.
by darthVictor13 on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
I personally think NFL players should be escorted in a wheelchair whenever they travel so the strain of them holding up their own weight won’t effect them during the season.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 11, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You are still kidding me if you think jogging laps while perfectly healthy is going to take a toll on an NFL player. It’s 320 yards, which is 0.1818 miles.
It was never about conditioning them, it was about an embarrassing punishment and a deterrent not to make stupid penalties.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
conditioning is most definitely an issue this season with as many ACL tears and other injuries there have been around the league already with barely even two weeks of camp. not all, and maybe not most, but a good portion of these players became very lethargic this offseason compared to previous years due to the lockout.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 11, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
ACL tears have nothing to do with conditioning.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 11, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehhh I don’t know, I would think you’re a lot more susceptible if you are out of shape. When you are tired your technique breaks down, and that’s a recipe for injury. I am not sure about ACL tears specifically, but injuries in general for sure.
But regardless of that, I am not so sure the players are in much worse shape this year than in other years. They’ve missed what 15 practices over the course of 140 days where they bascially install the O and D? Are they really that out of condition?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Injuries in general sure, but not ACL tears. There are two main ways those occur. The first and most obvious is getting hit in the side of the knee with your foot planted, causing your leg to bend sideways and snapping the ligaments. The second, less obvious way is where after a player jumps they land awkwardly and have their knee bend sideways as the hit the ground. Maybe I’m being dumb and not thinking of something, but I can’t see how either of these are injury related.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 12, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, considering that they’re ACL tears, they’re very injury related.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 12, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn it.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 12, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
But tell me you aren’t more likely to have poor footwork and leave your leg in position to get rolled or to be fatigued and more likely to land with less athleticism from a jump.
When you are out of breath and tired, you are less likely to feel a guy start to roll up on your leg, remain alert, and have the balance, coordination, reflexes, and agility to pull your cleats out of the ground.
Sure the actual tearing is not due to fatigue, but you don’t think being out of shape would increase one’s chances of being in awkward positions at all?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
My buddy tore his ACL playing football while tailgating at a Penn State game a couple of years ago. He’s horribly out of shape and was drunk. I’m guessing that contributed.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
being drunk is setting yourself up for disaster. i lightly tweaked my ankle a few weekends ago when i challenged a buddy to some push-ups. i don’t know how that could possibly happen but i was intoxicated and that’s all i remember.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the props! I think Colt’s long ball success today wasn’t an accident …the gradual command he grasped of the short and intermediate game over the past 10 days set up his long ball. Our defense, no doubt, was defending his short and intermediate game today and he was able to burn them long…let’s hope that this becomes a blueprint for the season in which opposing defenses who key upon Colt’s strength (short and intermediate passes) will pay dearly for putting eight in the box.
When colt goes out and dominates the packers first team D…
by lightninmcqueen on Aug 10, 2011 10:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Delhomme looked very good against them last year.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
True….what happend!? Not but in all honestly when it’s pre-season, the out come doesn’t really matter to me. I like watching the guys who are fighting for a roster spot or the guys who i’ve grown to “likeing” this year it’s CB james dockery, WR johnathan haggerty, and RB brandon jackson, so i’ll keep an eyes on them, haggerty and dockery i think should really make the roster.
by lightninmcqueen on Aug 11, 2011 3:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Other teams figured us out. Their defenses became more complex during the regular season and we didn’t have answers to their adjustments. That’s my take on it anyway. Daboll wanted to run everything but he didn’t make it all go together.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
buy build a new computer. and then play some league of legends with me.
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by pwndabear on Aug 11, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just built a new computer for less than $400. Couldn’t be happier with it.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 11, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never done it. Can you tell me a good website/store to do this at?
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Aug 11, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i got all my stuff from newegg and just put it together myself. takes a little bit of knowhow but its not hard. if you know someone who knows about puters, ask ‘em; they’ll be flattered.
im sure you can find places cheaper than newegg too btw
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
From dissecting each piece of my computer the past couple of weeks and literally testing everything, I quickly gained knowledge (through research too) to the point where I think I could build it myself. With the NFL season coming up though, I need a new unit soon and I probably don’t have time to research each component I want, order it, and build it with the chance I could screw something up.
One thing that bugs me is that all the new computers from the stores is they don’t seem to have a single PCI slot (only PCI-e slots). I know regular PCI slots are a thing of the past, but my digital TV tuner card (which has worked perfect) is a PCI card, and I’d hate to have to spend an extra $80 for a new one if I don’t have to.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Aug 12, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
And, by the way, newegg has been awesome in terms of researching potential graphics cards and power supplies in the past. The customer reviews and videos there are very helpful.
Dawgs By Nature - Covering the Cleveland Browns on SB Nation.
by Chris Pokorny on Aug 12, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Newegg is awesome. And I use Macs.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
flag mac usage
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
I am a photographer and the new iMac display is amazing. Also, I don’t know jack about windows, and I hate viruses.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
only if youre a tried and true hipster, its ok.
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
Even then it’s still hipster. Which makes it not okay.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 13, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i do ride a fixed gear bike but it is not vintage. I do shop at thrift stores but I do not have a mustache. I do wear tight jeans, but I don’t wear trucker hats. I do occasionally wear ironic shirts but I don’t weigh 115lbs. Make your own judgements.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
ew tight jeans? duck muck all day…
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 13, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You have viruses. They just don’t give a crap about the kids who use Macs for photography.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
macs are like tricycles; anyone can ride them. PCs are like motocycles, you have to have the knowledge to ride one, but they beat the hell out of a tricycle.
macs suck.
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
I like Newegg, but I use TigerDirect more.
by superbacker56 on Aug 12, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Newegg is the way to go. You can buy complete packages of parts and put them together yourself, so you don’t have to worry about whether everything will fit or if each piece is compatible with everything else.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 12, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Newegg and Thinkgeek are the two I’ve always been referred to.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 12, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That game is way too addicting. It’s not healthy
by superbacker56 on Aug 11, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I know. I started in late may and I am up to level 27. I am such and addict and stop reminding me because it makes me want to load it and play again
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
yea i started around the same time too and am also to lvl 27. very addicting. but im giving in to my addiction because i figure its not as harmful as black tar heroin. friend me on there. pwndabear (go figure, right?)
teemo ftw!
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
I juts started using a new build for teemo. Tons of on-hit effects and atk speed. I am getting way to addicted to the point where I have rough drafts of game guides for characters on my computer
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
teemo is by far my fav char. i have a very nice build for him and am damn good. so much so that its almost not fun to play as him anymore.
katarina, fiddles, and sivir are some of my other favorites.
really, friend me on there.
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
I’ve been playing for a few months now. Hit level 30 a couple weeks ago. I have yet to venture into the world of ranked games though.
Some favorite champs are urgot, ezreal, veigar, mordekaiser, and as of late amumu.
My summoner name is Tiberyus if anyone wants to play some games. I’m usually online for at least a game or two every night.
by superbacker56 on Aug 11, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
uh oh. do i smell a premade team in the making?
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
I typically play with two of my brothers and there are a couple other friends who I play with from time to time, but none of them play nearly as much as me. Usually I can only get a group of 3 together. I really wish I could get a group of 5 more often because randoms in this game can be so annoying. Especially when games can take 45 minutes to an hour and you are stuck with them.
by superbacker56 on Aug 11, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I just have to mention this, Dominion looks epic
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Yeah it definitely does. I will be going to PAX Prime in Seattle in a couple weeks where they will have a playable build of it, so hopefully I will be able to try it out while I’m out there.
by superbacker56 on Aug 11, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
same (with being on line for at least a game). I have gotten to the point where I can play with a ton of characters. I have beasted this week with ganplank and Dr. mundo.
Some of my faves though are teemo, twitch, gangplank, sion (if played right, best offtank), fiddlesticks, veigar, Jax
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Joe Thomas would pancake me if i ever decided to quit my Browns obsession, so i have no time to play MMORPGs.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 11, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, but League of Legends is a Multiplayer Online battle Arena (MOBA) game.
by superbacker56 on Aug 11, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m not aware of that game i was just thinking of WoW which is an MMORPG if i’m not mistaken.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 11, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
it actually has ties to it. Not WoW specifically, but Warcraft III which is a RTS (real time strategy) like Age of Empires or Starcraft. There was a custom map, Defense of the Ancients that LoL is based off of and the designers worked for blizzard.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Warcraft II was the only one i played. i loved that game.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
3 was pretty fun too.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 12, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I am buying Warcraft III when I save up some $…partially for DoTA. I was talking to one of my friends and he said DoTA is like League of Legends, but 1,000 times more awesome
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
DoTA is like League of Legends, but 1,000 times more awesome
That’s going to be an incredibly rough transition for you, trust me. LoL is about 1,000 times more user friendly. I played a lot of DoTA about 5 years ago.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
thats what I heard. There are so many things different (lose gold when killed, you can lose items, no recall) but it sounds so much more fun.
From what he told me too, HoN (heroes of Newwerth) is closer to DoTA than LoL and I just downloaded it. If I start playing DoTA, I am going to ease myself in.
Plus, I am starting to find LoL can be easy at times if I choose characters I am good with. I can even beat a lot of players with characters I’ve never used if I find a halfway decent build strategy
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
A lot of it is taste. Some of the hardcore old DoTA fans dislike the new disparity in skill, and that it’s easier to pick up and play. Personally, I see this solved with the matchmaking system. It uses an ELO rating system so you’re generally playing with similarly skilled players.
Personally, I think LoL is far more fun. It’s a lot less pointlessly convoluted.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
now that you mentioned LoL, i look at DPS’ name on here in a whole new way…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
by bross09 on Aug 11, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since I play Warcraft, I’ve always seen it that way.

cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 11, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
warcraft or WoW? never played WoW but played warcraft once. LoL is a spinoff of DoTA so…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Both, but the DPS reference is from WoW.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 11, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It means the same in all these games. Damage per second, but in layman’s terms, heavy damage dealing character/player. (Usually that’s physical damage rather than magical.)
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I meant that as: that’s where I got the dps reference. Not that it was exclusive to WoW. As far as world of Warcraft goes, they’ve nerfed most physical damage dealers quite a bit (other than hunters) and arcane mages have been the heaviest source of damage generally since WotLK came out.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 12, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
random, but I heard WoW might be free soon.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I believe they made it free to play up to level 20 recently, and there is a free 10 day pass you can get, but I doubt it will ever be totally free. It’s a HUGE cashcow and usually MMOs only resort to making itself free when their memberships start falling off to bring back old customers or to compete with WoW itself.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 12, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think WoW is inevitable, but could be many years off as they milk every last time from the addicts first one.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I think WoW 2 is inevitable, but could be many years off as they milk every last time from the addicts first one.
fixed
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
I think there will be at least three more expansions before we see a sequel, and after all the work I’ve put into my toons (7 85s and counting) I will be sooo pissed when it happens.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
if its magical, I usually think of them as a nuker.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I think of nuker as only burst damage. There are some magic damage dealers that have sustained output.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
From my experience nukers are AOE damage in large bursts.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 12, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s your name on LoL?
Mine’s the same as is here.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
his is pwndabear
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
by bross09 on Aug 12, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jabaal Sheard might have finally broken the barrier of getting an edge on Joe Thomas on one play
“Am I not merciful?”
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
by Dawg Nuts on Aug 11, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
We need a combo of this and that Romeo picture, and then I’ll be set for the rest of the year.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 12, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
he reminds me of Buddha.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Thomas is a God

Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i can’t find the article where i recently saw him with his shaved head, otherwise i would.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 13, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe Thomas isathe one true God
Fixed.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 12, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there are others, trust me.

Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 13, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Sure, demigods. Joe Thomas likes to spread his Brownsyrup.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 13, 2011 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions
what a mistake. enjoy your pancaking, along with the other false prophets.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
you're forgetting the God that started it all.

Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 13, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Man who gave you PS? Haha
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 12, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
haha i use paint. i’m old school.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Thomas Rec
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
Joe Thomas Rec.
Only thing manlier than football? Ponies.
by BrownDawg1409 on Aug 11, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

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