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Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Day 13 - Playing Time

The Cleveland Browns had their final practice Thursday morning before their game against the Packers. Head coach Pat Shurmur decided to have the team go without pads, probably hoping to prevent any minor injuries that would hold players out of the camp.

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TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 13 (8/11/11)

  1. Shurmur Talks About the Playing Time: After practice ended, head coach Pat Shumur talked about the amount of playing time he anticipated giving his players this Saturday. It was pretty standard for a first preseason game, and it goes like this:
     
    1st Quarter: First-teamers
    2nd Quarter: Second-teamers
    3rd Quarter: Second-teamers
    4th Quarter: Third-teamers
     
    It'll be important for those third-stringers to fight for a roster spot since they haven't received a lot of opportunities in training camp.
     
  2. Injury Report: After missing parts of practice on Wednesday, defensive end Jayme Mitchell and offensive lineman Dominic Alford were practicing again. Linebacker Chris Gocong remained sidelined, and safety Usama Young's hamstring acted up, causing him to leave the session early. Similarly, safety Eric Hagg left practice after banging his knee a little bit.
     
  3. Skrine Continues to Shine: Cornerback Buster Skrine had a good day of practice, defending receiver Greg Little well twice, according to the Akron Beacon Journal. On one play, he defended a pass by Seneca Wallace. On another play, Colt McCoy looked like he completed a pass to Greg Little, but it was stripped by Skrine, who also ended up coming up with the ball at the same time.
     
  4. Fujita Gets in on the Action: Unless a linebacker records an interception, you don't hear much about them in practice. That's what Fujita did Thursday morning, as he picked off a pass thrown by Seneca Wallace.
     
  5. C. Mitchell Has Best Practice Yet: I'd like to give a special shout out to Daniel Wolf, who made his final live training camp report of the season on Thursday. In his final report, he spent a lot of time talking about how Carlton Mitchell had his best practice yet. Read about it more here.
     
  6. Staring Down Moore Too Much? Wolf also noted that it seemed like when Evan Moore came in on some plays, it started seeming like Colt McCoy was starring him down too much. If that's the case, hopefully he breaks that habit before defenses catch on.
     
  7. Watson Getting it Done: We've heard about the other tight ends on the roster, but Ben Watson is still getting it done in camp. He came away with several key red zone passes in practice today.
     
  8. Pat Shurmur (On if he’s worried there will be injuries because they haven’t had any hitting in practice) - "I disagree.  We’ve done a lot of hitting, we just haven’t tackled to the ground.  That would be the only difference in a scrimmage.  In every padded practice, all of our teams drills have been what we would call thud.  Its full speed the only difference is you don’t tackle the back.  From that standpoint, I feel like we’ve banged them.  Pretty typical of what I’ve seen in other training camps.  Some of the tackling things, cutting guys, we don’t cut in practice.  That’s got to get done if we are going to do it in a preseason game.  Our tacklers, our defenders, you practice your tackling at a full speed rate in the preseason games.  That’s what I’m expecting."

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Thanks for pulling together a nice report. With all the Browns have had to deal with – will be impressed if they have a cohesive effort against GB. On the downside, it is obvious that Hardesty’s physical condition is worse than anticipated. On the upside, it sure would be nice if Skrine could contribute at a level higher than Wright. I can’t see Mitchell contributing this year – but am hoping to be proved wrong on that one.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Aug 12, 2011 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Hardesty is worse. I think they are doin the right thing by taking their time with him. Strengthen his legs and let him adjust to the game

by The naome40 on Aug 12, 2011 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m hearing nothing but good things about Buster Skrine. It sounds like he could be a real diamond in the rough. You’ve got to love the guy’s name too. I really hope we hang on to him.

by duke4711 on Aug 12, 2011 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2011/7/29/2303052/so-long-eric-wright-headed-to-detroit

I told ya….He just looks the part. I worry about his size and how that may affect his longevity and ability to stay on the field.

by southbound on Aug 12, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buster Skrine will be the man. I believe he will be the surprise of this years draft. Mark it down, take a picture of it, but just remember I told you so….LOL

sorry….in the comments I wrote this….

“He reminds me of a bulldog with a lot of fight in it. Undersized but he makes plays especially against big time competition.

He could have a career path like Bob Sanders though. Lights it up but gets hurt every year because he plays bigger than his body will allow.

One thing about it though, he can run with pukesburg WR Mike Williams.

by southbound on Jul 29, 2011 9:00 AM PDT"

by southbound on Aug 12, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he can run with Mike Williams he can definitely play in this league.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol its Wallace. I know you knew that. Good stuff lol

by The naome40 on Aug 12, 2011 5:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I remember watching his combine video and i just loved how his hips seemed so fluid and he was so fast!

by lightninmcqueen on Aug 12, 2011 12:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yea but does this mean skrine is really good or little sucks?

Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.

by pwndabear on Aug 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s funny that you would comment on how none of the linebackers are standing out, yet completely fail to fill the readers in on the progress of some of the invitees at the position. Eric Gordon and Brian Smith for instance, were very productive starters at their respective colleges, hope we’re not wasting their time. this obvious omission really tugs at your journalistic integrity. you must still be stuck in recession conformity mode, to not allow for any challengers, based on your fraudulent assertions, that a fat contract spells a guaranteed featuring role. when such a clause ever enters your usual contract formulation, it would be interesting to all aspiring athlete.

by mooncamping on Aug 12, 2011 2:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

you dumped the sure thing in Abe Elam, citing an Eric Mangini accolyte eradication scheme. yet Fujita and Gocong will quaintly survive your purge, because it serves your timetable for assembling a paycheck bolstered rationale.

by mooncamping on Aug 12, 2011 2:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why are you so mean to the writers recently?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 12, 2011 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fujita and Gocong were brought in under Heckert. Mangini was the coach and coach alone. Abe Elam was far from a “sure thing.” Further, if Eric Gordon and Brian Smith were so productive why were they passed over by 32 team through all seven rounds of the draft? If some undrafted guys crack that 53 man roster that is good but we should not expect that every UDFA is going to be a super star because they were productive starters in college.

by BrownsFanRegina on Aug 12, 2011 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Abe Elam sucks. Accept it.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 13, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except he didn’t.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 13, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was serviceable. Not great but he definitely did not suck.

cautiously realistic

by North Coast Flea on Aug 13, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offensive lineman C.F.A.`s

    Great job, love all the info I can get, we dont hear too much in Indiana.
I beleive that the Browns have the potential to have the #1 O-Line this year. They not only have the starters in place, (I hope they stay healthy this time) but the newbys that were brought in seem like class acts.
   Can you tell us a little something about each one and how their doing? I would also like to hear the same of the D-Line, like Brian Sanford and Jabari Fletcher. Just little bits would be fine. Are they legit, potential to make the team, or pratice squad? Or, are they this years tackling dummies? Thank You All, and GO BROWNS………

by William Scott Eltzroth on Aug 12, 2011 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

You’re stuck in Indiana? Same here!

by shep615 on Aug 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I envy both of you. I’m stuck in Pittsburgh. I can’t explain how horrible it has been living behind enemy lines for the last few years.

by darthVictor13 on Aug 12, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i’ll see if i can sneak you some grenades while i’m in the Navy.

Yvan Eht Nioj.

by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell me about it. I live in McKees Rocks, and any time I look South I see that abomination of a city. Thank god the view from my house is blocked by a bridge.

cautiously realistic

by North Coast Flea on Aug 12, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

 I’m sure around the league it’s not viewed as dangerous. I know we have questionmarks at key positions but from what I see in Hillis and the camp our TE’s seem to be having, I can’t help but be optimistic about our offense.

by darthVictor13 on Aug 12, 2011 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Top tier O line + Top tier power running game + Top tier set of TE = (somehow) one of the worst offenses in the league. We need play makers at WR, and I am shocked this team hasn’t made a move.
Most optimistic WCO projection- mediocre. It’s not 1986, defenses know how to defend the WCO. Need explosive studs at skill positions, or a shut down D to make a TE/power running game based offense good enough.

The snozberries taste like snozberries!

by discgolfur on Aug 12, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully when teams go down to 53 we can pick up some depth at DL, LB, and maybe even WR.

The snozberries taste like snozberries!

by discgolfur on Aug 12, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

About your 1986 comment: we most likely aren’t running a pure WCO. It certainly won’t be the same offense Bill Walsh ran. The offenses have continued to adapt along with the defenses.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Aug 12, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anything it’s always been the defenses that have to adapt to offenses. almost always the offense has the advantage unless you have a guy like Daboll running it or a guy like Edwards as your #1 WR.

Yvan Eht Nioj.

by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is not, though I was surprised to see some of the split back formations I said were basically extinct.

Though the Packers ran some of them too, and that’s worked out decently for them in the recent past.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 12, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top tier O line + Top tier power running game + Top tier set of TE + Daboll = (somehow) one of the worst offenses in the league.

by HenryDawg on Aug 12, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Old offensive and defensive plays and schemes often are revived, tweaked, and made very successful both in the NFL and in college.

Auburn has adapted the old triple option and the Veer to fit a spread system. Hawaii is killing it with no talent, no recruiting budget, and the Run-n-shoot. Dick LeBeau is infamous for reviving old defensive trends such as his zone blitzes. The Ryan brothers have brought versions of the 46 back.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the WCO is completely outdated then how come the Packers just won a SB with an offense based in the WCO?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Aug 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

good stuff, i’m interested to see if Evan Moore can translate all of this hoopla into a nice season

by johnf34 on Aug 12, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

if he could learn to block as well as Watson he’d be our #1 TE without a doubt.

Yvan Eht Nioj.

by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 12, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it matters, he’ll be on the field probably about the same amount as Watson for now.

by HenryDawg on Aug 12, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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