What to Look For: Detroit Lions vs. Cleveland Browns
As the Cleveland Browns head into their second preseason game, there might be a little less excitement than last week's opener against the Packers, due to all of the injuries the team has. Granted, the injuries aren't considered serious, but it is less fun watching a first-team unit that doesn't have all of its regulars in tact. Some brief notes to preview tonight's game (7:30 PM EST start time, WKYC Channel 3) are after the jump...
- There is a high probability that three defensive starters, safety Usama Young and linebackers Scott Fujita and Chris Gocong, will not play. Young and Gocong missed last week's game. Adding Fujita to the mix changes things, because before, you had a somewhat experienced guy (Kaluka Maiava) replacing Gocong. Maiava can't play two spots and Titus Brown backs up the middle, so that means undrafted free agent Brian Smith will probably get the call. He has been put in a prime position to secure a final roster spot.
- There is an off chance that T.J. Ward won't play at safety. If that happens, it is expected that Mike Adams would shift over to his spot, and rookie undrafted free agent James Dockery would take Adams' spot. Either way, I expect Dockery to get some work at safety against the Lions. If he proves he can be an all-around backup contributor, he'll make the final roster.
- On offense, it's a tough situation to project who will start at running back. Montario Hardesty returned to practice this week and it would be great to see him in action. Throughout the week, Pat Shurmur remained hesitant when it came to giving a definitive answer as to whether or not he'd play. Peyton Hillis suffered a minor hamstring injury on Wednesday, and whether that keeps him out or not remains to be seen. Brandon Jackson will still allow the first-team offense to flow, so the "safe" bet might be to just go with him. Jackson is used to facing the Lions from his days with Green Bay.
- The final substitution we could see is Jason Pinkston being thrown into the starting lineup at left guard after Eric Steinbach suffered a minor injury on Wednesday. Ultimately, I'd like to see Steinbach play with the first stringers, even if it is just the preseason. If I'm looking for a positive here, it is that Pinkston in the starting lineup would give us our first chance at really being able to evaluate his abilities. He has not made headlines in training camp. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means I don't know what to expect. Whoever plays at left guard will go up against former Brown Corey Williams.
- Speaking of former Browns, the Lions have a bunch of them on their roster. They include...
RB Mike Bell
RB Jerome Harrison
OG Isaac Sowells
DT Corey Williams
CB Anthony Madison
CB Brandon McDonald
CB Eric Wright
They are competing with Arizona for the "most former Browns players" award. Wright is expected to play despite an injury earlier in the week, and I imagine we'll see Harrison and some of the other guys in action too. That will certainly make this a unique-feeling rivalry. Wright and Harrison offered some comments about their time in Cleveland here. Wright seems gracious, while Harrison was a bit cold in his remarks.
- I don't expect Colt McCoy and the first-team offense to look as good as they did in the first preseason game, because let's face it -- they were pretty much perfect. If I see the same type of output over the duration of an entire half, I'll be ecstatic.
- The number one position I want to look at tonight is the defensive line. I want the duo of Phil Taylor and Ahtyba Rubin to be more effective than they were a week ago. I'd also like to see Jayme Mitchell and Jabaal Sheard force Matthew Stafford to hurry up some of his throws. Last week, their pressure came when the second stringers entered the game.
- I want to see if Jordan Norwood's increase in training camp time at receivers shows up on gameday. Will he be playing the slot with the first-team offense, or will Greg Little be in that role again?
- I already talked about Ndamukong Suh yesterday, but I will re-iterate the point: the goal is to keep Suh away from Colt McCoy at all costs. It'll be a great test for Shawn Lauvao to see where the right side of our offensive line stands.
- With Hardesty and Hillis possibly out (or, possibly both playing!), I wonder if fullback Owen Marecic will be incorporated into the offense a little bit more. I thought he'd be involved as a receiver quite a bit, but that hasn't been the case in camp thus far. Don't get me wrong, though, I'd probably much rather take my chances throwing to the tight ends.
- I'm not sure if we're just trying to keep him healthy or what, but I want Joshua Cribbs to have at least two attempts at returning kickoffs or punts. I know he's experienced, but nothing matches getting reps against teams really coming down to hit you.
- No one stood out on special teams last week, and it might be tough for anyone to do so when you have 90-man rosters. If anyone makes an impression though, it'll help me decide if any more of the undrafted free agents deserve a roster spot.
- Last, but not least, let's hope everyone stays healthy again. Feel free to share what you'll be looking for in tonight's game.
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jerome harrison

Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
by pwndabear on Aug 19, 2011 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Watch Live Detroit Lions vs. Cleveland Browns on 24/7 world wide network coverage.
Watch today Detroit Lions vs. Cleveland Browns online live streaming on available latest online live streaming HD TV link which will be held in Cleveland Browns Stadium at 07:30 PM (ET).
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RE: Tonight's game
I’ll be watching the play of both lines. Solid NFL teams have always been built from the lines outward. In the AFC North, you have to take control of the line of scrimmage early and hold your edge throughout the game. This is why the line play on both sides of the ball is so important and why it’ll be what I’ll watch tonight, throughout the remaining preseason games and for the entire season. The Browns have to get this right, otherwise nothing else is going to matter in the long run.
is it on local tv or nfl network?
"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping
by discoinferno083 on Aug 19, 2011 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Detroit @ Cleveland
7:30 PM ET
Detroit feed:
Detroit, MI: WXYZ 7 (ABC)
Escanaba, MI: WJMN 3 (CBS)
Flint, MI: WNEM 5 (CBS)
Grand Rapids, MI: WXMI FOX 17
Lansing, MI: WSYM FOX 47
Traverse City, MI: WFQX FOX 33
Cleveland feed:
Cleveland, OH: WKYC 3 (NBC)
Columbus, OH: WBNS 10 (CBS)
Dayton, OH: WHIO 7 (CBS)
Youngstown, OH: WYTV 33 (ABC)
NFLN re-air: Sun, 10:00 AM ET
This information is from http://www.the506.com/temp11.html
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 19, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it at 7:30, or 8:30, as you stated in the post?
by Uriah33 on Aug 19, 2011 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Opps, so sorry about that! Definitely 7:30 PM EST. I had my fantasy draft time on my mind.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 19, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody in NYC know where I can go to watch the game tonight?
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Aug 19, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
NFLNet won’t be showing it until 10 AM (EST) Sunday.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
And I just noticed my comment is redundant. Way to fail Flea.
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 19, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
would you stop self-talking please? it’s weird. at least put a bluetooth in your head so people dont think youre crazy.
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
Flea doesn’t like it when you insinuate that he’s crazy.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 19, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone abandon thread, crazy bigfoot is on the loose!
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Aug 19, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
“ustream”
"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden
firstrow is good.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Aug 19, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It shouldn’t. Also try vodkasports.com
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 19, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Any regular internet use puts you at risk, you just got to be careful. Never install anything if your not 100% sure about it.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
dude, you rock. EVERYONE NEEDS TO REC THIS SHIT
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
Who is this Colt McCoy you speak of?
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 19, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
He is a priest of the almighty Joe Thomas. Some say he once punched a horse to the ground, and that he is illegal in 17 states. All we know is, he’s called the QB.
Alcohol abuse and Cleveland sports fans: hand-in-hand since 1955.
by Clevsports on Aug 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you’re thinking of Coly McCoy.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Aug 19, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
rec. And new helmet for McCoy.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
by JustBob on Aug 19, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Only the British edition. The Americans are annoying hobbknockers.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 19, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed, the Brits do it waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more better!!!!
but to be fair, I haven’t even watched the American version.
(out of fear we’ve ruined it like many other things!!! lol)
by mr.saturday.night on Aug 19, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine we’ll see Haden matched up with Megatron, it’ll be interesting to see how he fares.
Go Browns
Joe Thomas is going to be covering megatron actually.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 19, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know I am beating a dead horse, but this
DT Corey Williams
still makes me mad. A 2nd round pick for a guy who was not meant to play in our defensive scheme. All time great move by Phil.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 19, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
Shhhh! You’ll make Kwoog cry. Wherever he is in Golan’s basement on the exorcize bike that fuels the compound.
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 19, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
exorcize bike

“Will with increase your cardiovascular health in the name of God!”
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
I knew that didn’t look right. It’s what the little red line told me to put when I didn’t spell the word right in the first place.
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 19, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ALLLLLL CAAAAAAPPPPPPPSSSS RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
by lightninmcqueen on Aug 19, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d like to see Colt go after E.Wright a few times…
Let’s see how he handles covering Greg Little.
by mr.saturday.night on Aug 19, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
Well… We should be able to throw at them because teams were able to do it against us when we had wright and mcdonald.
by lightninmcqueen on Aug 19, 2011 1:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was thinking something similar. What are the odds that they can both cover on the same play? The Dynamic Duo together again.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
I would love for that to happen, have lions fans feel what we had to endure and we can laugh at the horrible coverage!
by lightninmcqueen on Aug 19, 2011 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Seneca can throw a few E. Wright’s way…….he’ll be on the bench.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
by DaveDawg09 on Aug 19, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Jason Pinkston, he was mentioned by Chris Burke at SI.com in an article about possible late-round steals from this year’s draft.
NE Ohio getting props in that SI piece: Delone Carter (Copley) and Cecil Shorts (Collinwood and Mt Union) . . .
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Aug 19, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
MOUNT UNION WHATTTTTT. Come at us bro.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 19, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
My direct tv doesn’t carry Columbus channels, instead they have Charleston, WV. Wtf…
by athensdawg on Aug 19, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Athens, OH – almost Almost Heaven.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
I love it down here, but I miss the lake. Our Browns Backer bar is next door to the Bengals bar and right across the street from the Steelers bar. A lot of smack talking going on, on Sundays! Hopefully the Browns can give us something to back us up this year.
by athensdawg on Aug 19, 2011 4:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you guys should have knife fights / turf wars!!!
by mr.saturday.night on Aug 19, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Montario Hardesty reportedly ruled out for tonight’s game:
http://twitter.com/#!/caplannfl/statuses/104609724787474432
Side note, the game thread will go live at 6:00 PM EST. I set the second half game thread to go alive at…I think 8:50 PM EST. Even if I mistimed my guess of when it’ll start, just know which threads to use for first half vs. second half.
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Montario Hardesty reportedly ruled out for tonight’s game:
Damn it, was really hoping to see him play tonight.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
Well, gives more reps to armond smith, we’ll get to see more of him
by lightninmcqueen on Aug 19, 2011 4:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Disappointing, but I can see where the coaches are coming from. Hardesty may only be healthy for most of one series. Why waste it in a preseason game (again)?
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
Is Cleveland in the Eastern Time Zone? Never been to Ohio so idk.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Yep, Cleveland is in EST.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 19, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Game Replay
The game is being replayed at midnight on STO (Sports Time Ohio) It is the rebroadcasting of the game filmed by WKYC channel 3. It will have Bernie and that other guy doing the play by play
we are all Kipnises...

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