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Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report: Day 24 - Live Report from Berea

Browns QB Colt McCoy Talks to WR Brian Robiskie during practice.

I was live in Berea for my final training camp session of the year, and it might be safe to say that Monday morning was the coldest practice of the season (below 70 degrees). When I arrived in the morning, I was surprised to see the camera lifts surrounding the field that was closest to the fans, near the seating area that I knew would be in the shade the entire session. I scored "front row bleacher seats" since I arrived early, although it was definitely a lighter crowd today than any of the other sessions I had been to. Let's get to the review of what went on. I'm sure you're tired of hearing about injuries, so I will end the report with injury notes, rather than begin with them.

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TRAINING CAMP REPORT - DAY 24 (8/22/11)

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      The players stretch before practice begins. You can see where I was sitting and how the shade covered us pretty much the entire practice session.
  1. Early Drop for Watson: Tight end Ben Watson dropped a pass from Colt McCoy that was a very easy ball to catch. You'll get that sometimes with Watson, but he rebounded right after that with a couple of nice receptions. Later on, he caught a ball that somehow got by the hands of two converging defenders on a pass by Seneca Wallace. McCoy almost hit Watson on what would have been an awesome play that went almost back across the grain, but it fell just beyond the extended reach of Watson.
     
  2. Windsor Goes Up Top: Perhaps the highlight of the day was wide receiver Rod Windsor, an undrafted free agent, jumping into the air to catch a pass from Colt McCoy. McCoy threw the ball deep down the right sideline. Some members of the media criticized it for being underthrown, but personally, I thought it was good enough given the defensive back's position. Windsor made the necessary adjustment to haul it in over cornerback Ramzee Robinson.
     
  3. Brown Gets a Pair: Cornerback Sheldon Brown intercepted Seneca Wallace twice during the practice. They were nice, but not spectacular, plays by Brown. One of the interceptions saw him maintain his ground and catch the ball, while the other involved him jumping the route even though he already had tight coverage. More of the blame lays on Wallace, who really didn't seem to have a sharp day throwing the ball again.
     
  4. Wondering About Weatherhead: I've trashed quarterback Troy Weatherhead in the past for not even being able to throw accurate passes from a couple yards away, but now he is just getting zero reps during practice. Maybe he sees more work in the walk-through sessions later in the day. Jarrett Brown's stock has fallen based on his last two preseason outings. He looked more confident again in practice today, but I wish that confidence would translate to the field during the games.
     
  5. Marecic Drops Another One: During 11-on-11 drills, Colt McCoy threw a pass to the flat. The play was designed to gain about five yards, but it bounced in and out of the hands of fullback Owen Marecic. I'm not trying to rehash the Marecic debate from the past couple of days, but he doesn't seem reliable as a receiver right now. I'd rather see Brandon Jackson in there on two-back sets since he can catch and block well. Jackson remained out of practice with a toe injury.
     
  6. Norwood, the Highlight Reel: I continue to be impressed with what Jordan Norwood has brought to the table. He caught everything thrown his direction and kept making shifty moves to gain yards after the catch. He once again showed quickness in returning punts too. One punt by Richmond McGee sailed near the crowd where I was sitting. The ball bounced out of bounds, and then went into the mini-bleachers about ten feet away from him (I caught it on video, maybe I'll upload it tomorrow). Norwood asked the fan for "a little help," to which the ball was thrown at Norwood's feet. Someone yelled, "what's up Jordy?" to which Norwood responded, "what's up?" before heading back to his position.
     
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      It's Tony Grossi! I wanted to chat it up with him, but ended up chickening out.

  8. Watching Robiskie a Little: Because of Tony Grossi's comments about Brian Robiskie the other day, I tried to watch him specifically on several plays. It is true that he seems to have a tough time getting separation compared to some of the other receivers. What I notice about Robiskie though, at least when Colt McCoy is throwing, is that he is still a safety valve. McCoy usually looks elsewhere first, but if he doesn't like what he sees, he starts winding up to throw the ball where he knows Robiskie will be. That happened several times in practice today. At least twice, Robiskie came away with catches despite the defender being right on him. The other two times, the ball was thrown behind him and fell incomplete.
     
  9. Titus Does a Little Showboating: Wide receiver Johnathan Haggerty lined up on the right side of the field and was the intended target when linebacker Titus Brown made a nice deflection. He had tight coverage and after the play, which presumably ended his unit's time on the field, Brown grabbed the ball and fake punted it (he let it drop to the ground), alas Greg Little from this past Friday.
     
  10. The Injury Report: The players who missed practice today included RB Brandon Jackson (toe), WR Mohamed Massaquoi (foot), WR Joshua Cribbs (hamstring), TE Evan Moore (concussion), LG Eric Steinbach (back), LB Chris Gocong (neck stinger), LB Steve Octavien (undisclosed), CB Buster Skrine (undisclosed), S T.J. Ward (hamstring), and S Usama Young (hamstring).
     
  11. More Action for Cameron: I noticed less passes to the running backs today and more down-the-field action for the tight ends and wide receivers. That meant less action for running back Montario Hardesty and some more action for tight end Jordan Cameron, who had several catches in 7-on-7 drills. It doesn't seem like he's quite involved in the first-team offense yet, even with Moore out -- that time still went to tight end Alex Smith, who caught a few nice passes again during practice.
     
  12. Not How You Script It: Quarterback Seneca Wallace had one of his passes deflected at the line of scrimmage, but it ended up being smacked straight back into Wallace's lap (he caught his own pass). He then proceeded to sprint up the middle for a good gain.
     
  13. No Extended Drills: Practice ended after special teams drills about a half hour early, so there were no two-minute drills or any drills that kept track of yardage/clock.
     
  14. Video Maybe? I shot video on my cell phone camera for about 14 minutes straight. Included in that video were Jarrett Brown leading the scout team offense (in preparation for the Eagles) against our first-string defense, Ben Watson's dropped pass, Rod Windsor's long catch, Titus Brown fake punting the ball, Scott Fujita being punished for spinning a ball carrier around in practice, and more. It's a large file beyond my uploading capabilities at the moment, but I'll see if it's possible to put it online Tuesday. Remember, if it does go through, it's not the greatest quality, and I was talking (briefly) in a few spots.

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Thanks for the post QQ – Any comment on how Montario looked? Is he cutting with conf? I am afraid we will have to cut Jarret Brown and get a more dependable 3rd QB. Maybe a practice squad spot. Owen is troubling.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Aug 22, 2011 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a little puzzled about Marecic. I was expecting him to double as blocking fullback and special teams workhorse. Since when was he supposed to be an integral part of the passing game?

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 22, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we supposedly got rid of Vickers because he couldn’t catch so the assumption would be that Maresic could. Frankly its probably a lot of politics. Why should the NFL be any different than any other job in the world.

by HenryDawg on Aug 22, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, what about a detailed list of frozen ropes thrown by each QB? ;-)

by scrumm on Aug 22, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Every ball thrown by Colt is on a frozen rope so it would be a short list since it wouldn’t be necessary to list Colt’s throws.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 25, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember when I saw Grossi when I went to training camp this year. I was surprised by how NOT orange he looked. Also, those are some nice pictures. Having the team practice by you takes a lot of luck.

Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73

by Doc's Kid on Aug 22, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

More of the blame lays on Wallace, who really didn’t seem to have a sharp day throwing the ball again.

When can we cut this guy?

Mangini apologist by default.

by Villeslgr on Aug 22, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I still believe Wallace is a serviceable backup.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 22, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s looking less and less serviceable this preseason so far.

cautiously realistic

by North Coast Flea on Aug 22, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah maybe. But I still don’t foresee the Browns picking someone up as a backup who would be any better than Wallace.
I still believe if he gets called into action come regular season he’ll be up to the task – i.e. someone who can manage the offense reasonably well as long as he isn’t asked to make lots of big plays.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 22, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I still don’t foresee the Browns picking someone up as a backup who would be any better than Wallace.

Ratty.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Aug 23, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace can win you a couple of games if needed. He is a good backup.

by HenryDawg on Aug 22, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was eager to see Brown, but he doesn’t seem any better than Wallace.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Aug 22, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand how you could read a defense so slowly.

Ok, maybe that’s too harsh, but this guy has been in this system before and he’s been a pro a long time. Why so slow with the reads? Against vanilla d in the preseason?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 23, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The reports early in camp were that Wallace was making the fastest reads of any QB.

by scrumm on Aug 23, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you watch either preseason game? Good lord. He hits the back foot and the ball doesn’t come out. He hitches…still doesn’t come out. He hitches again…still doesn’t come out. Then he either gets hit from behind or starts running.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 23, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yea, I watched him play. I’m not doubting you, just making a note of the disconnect between the practice reports on him and what we saw in the games.

by scrumm on Aug 23, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not trying to accuse you of not watching, just emphasizing how bad he’s looked. I don’t get Seneca Wallace. At all. Meant more a “did you see that?” than “were you even watching?” Sorry if that sounded bad.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 23, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

In that case, yeah he looked bad for reals. /cheers

by scrumm on Aug 23, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just read this on ESPN

The Browns and Joe Thomas have agreed to a 7 year 84 million dollar extension with 44 million guaranteed.

by Steve n NC on Aug 22, 2011 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Marecic:
ball thrown below waist: hands down, palms out, fingers spread, pinkies together.
ball thrown above waist: hands up, fingers up and spread, thumbs together.
ball thrown anywhere else: Choose between the options above.

by mooncamping on Aug 23, 2011 3:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the fake punt by Titus Brown. To me, it suggests that there’s a locker-room culture developing that could help to keep potential prima-donnas like Little in line. That’s something we were definitely missing during the Crennel years.

by woostahpastah on Aug 23, 2011 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

huh?

Mangini apologist by default.

by Villeslgr on Aug 24, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point 8 in the article.

cautiously realistic

by North Coast Flea on Aug 24, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I saw that, I just didn’t get the locker-room culture keeping prima-donnas in line, nor the reasoning for jumping back to the Crennel years.

Mangini apologist by default.

by Villeslgr on Aug 25, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace Sucks.

Mangini apologist by default.

by Villeslgr on Aug 24, 2011 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

He’ll never be a starter, but I think he’s a serviceable backup. I suspect his disappointing preseason might be partly due to an “attitude issue”. I think he came into this year thinking this might be his last chance to make it as a starter in the NFL, and now his morale is suffering and he’s not 100% on the motivation front. I think the coaches need to pump him up. I have a feeling if he gets the call (injury to Colt…) during regular season he’ll do ok.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 25, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not worried about his preseason. I was referring to his entire sucky career.

I think the coaches need to pump him up.

I’ll pass.

Mangini apologist by default.

by Villeslgr on Aug 25, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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