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Pat Shurmur Talks About the Plan Against Philadelphia, and Injury Updates

After practice on Tuesday, Cleveland Browns head coach Pat Shurmur talked to the media about a variety of topics, a few of which concerned Thursday's preseason game against the Philadelphia Eagles. His quotes about Thursday's game are listed after the jump.

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(On how much the starters will play on Thursday)- "I’m shooting for at least a half and then we’ll see how it goes from there."

(On if Hillis will play Thursday)- "I’m assuming so.  I don’t know much other than when I came out this morning, I was told he had a sore lower back."

(On if he assumes Hillis will play)- "I think so, yeah.  I’m assuming so, but I don’t know.  Again, we’ll have to see how that works."

(On Montario Hardesty’s progress)- "Good, he had a really good day today.  We’re going to play him Thursday."

(On how much Hardesty will be involved in the offense)- "He’s going to get some snaps.  I think it’s important that his process of coming back from this knee injury has been pretty, in my opinion, on pace with that I expected.  Part of that is playing in the preseason games.  We’ll get him some work and see how he holds up.  I do think too much sometimes is as bad as not enough."

(On if there is a set number of snaps for Hardesty)- "Not really.  We’ll feel it out.  He’ll probably appear in the first half at some point."

(On if Brandon Jackon’s injury will increase Hardesty’s reps on Thursday)- "Montario’s workload is going to be the same regardless of who’s in there with him.  If we have to put two fullbacks in the game, we’ll do it.  In terms on Montario, his workload is independent right now of other guys at that position."

The Eagles' staff has indicated that their starters will play into the third quarter against the Browns, so I anticipate that Cleveland will end up doing the same. It's always good to see the starters get some practice coming out of halftime. It'll certainly be interesting to see how Cleveland's defensive line does against a mobile quarterback like Michael Vick, who looked terrible against the Pittsburgh Steelers last week.

Among the players who are expected to miss Thursday's game:

The good news is that Massaquoi, Cribbs, Steinbach, Gocong, and other players could start practicing again next week. Players are given a rest during the preseason for a reason if they have minor injuries -- the coaches would rather have them 100% for the start of the regular season rather than have them get additional reps in.

Players who have returned to practice recently include tight ends Ben Watson and Evan Moore, linebacker Scott Fujita, and cornerback Buster Skrine.

Looking at the latest depth chart for the Cleveland Browns, the only changes made are that Carlton Mitchell and Eric Hagg were dropped to the bottom of their positions. That's probably because they are injured, but it never happened to someone like Usama Young. That leads me to believe that those guys could end up on the injured reserve, particularly Mitchell.

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It’s going to be a great game. For us college football fans, it’ll be McCoy, the 6’1" kid with a teeny frame (175 lbs his freshman year) starting, and VY, the 6’5" dude with a cannon arm backing up the other team. Crazy NFL role reversal.

by scrumm on Aug 23, 2011 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder how much difficulty MoMass is going to have finding his way back into the starting lineup. So much of this passing offense seems timing based, if Colt has it going with Robo, Little and Norwood, it may be tough for MoMass to unseat one of those.

Would really like to see how Norwood matches up with Nnamdi out of the slot this Thursday.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 23, 2011 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t forget Cribbs. I’d say Cribbs has looked the part of our No. 1, Little our 2, Robo our 3, and Norwood our slot. I’m not sure I really want to bump any of those guys at this point to put Momass back in the lineup.

Come on Marecic, get in front of the damn ball! Don't give me this "olé" bullsht!

by Clevsports on Aug 24, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Robo??? Grossi says he is going to get cut! And Grossi is never wrong.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Aug 24, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have checked with him…

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 24, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if momass can’t unseat norwood … wow, he sucks even worse than i previously thought.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 24, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won’t be able to do much of anything until he manages to get out of that walking boot he’s been wearing (after he shed the CAST) every since camp opened.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 24, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO MoMass’ biggest problem is the fact that his injury is something that no one talks about.

by scrumm on Aug 24, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s missed the entire camp and preseason because his foot had some sort of bone chip injury. Not much to talk about until he’s healed and able to start practicing. His biggest problem is that he is potentially headed for PUP status.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 24, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

This will be a great test for us.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 24, 2011 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes it will. You can bet Philly is going to come out swinging, with a chip on their shoulder after the beatdown they suffered last week.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 24, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is a lot of speed on that offense, too. Even if Maclin is still out. Their line and scheme on defense are also very good. Oh yeah, and those 3 corners.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 24, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

With both of our starting safeties out I expect it to look pretty ugly on the score board. But I’ll be satisfied if our D can stop the run and our O can move the ball effectively and consistently.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill

by JustBob on Aug 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good. What better test for this team than Philly?

If Colt goes out and has another good game against Nnamdi, DRC and Asante, then I will be very excited.

by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 24, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Colt has a good game against those guys, assuming they’re all being used throughout the game, then the only thing stopping him from 4000 yards is injuries and poor line play.

And this is Cleveland, where only the right side of the line can go wrong.

by scrumm on Aug 24, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

let’s pump the brakes here, people.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 24, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I was hoping my hyperbole would be a bit more obvious ;-)

by scrumm on Aug 24, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should have went with 5,500 yards.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Aug 25, 2011 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I realized my concept of total yards is based on a 12 game season, not 16.

by scrumm on Aug 25, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems I’ve been bumped to 3rd string on the homer depth chart lately. Going to have to work harder (just like Colt).

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 25, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about keeping the injured guys out. We don’t need them aggravating their injuries in a preseason game. It also gives the younger guys a chance to prove whether or not they’re worth a damn. Given that the Eagles are one of the more talented teams in the league, the coming game should be an ample test of our mettle.

by duke4711 on Aug 24, 2011 2:23 AM EDT reply actions  

What are the odds of Hardesty getting a season ending injury? 10:1? For his first live game, that seems reasonable, no?

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Aug 24, 2011 2:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You should have asked him: “How do you feel already, about your career progressing in Cleveland, with the limited signing of talent?”…“how do you feel, now that you know, talent alone is too expensive here, and paychecks run potential, around here?”…“have you figured out, why no one can break the stalemate, regarding certain peoples´ prognostications, in Cleveland?”…

by mooncamping on Aug 24, 2011 3:08 AM EDT reply actions  

…I agree, coach Shurmur, the best plan, is not to plan, because planning is subject to adaptations to the umpteenth degree.

by mooncamping on Aug 24, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

bad assessment

We are not going to get a good assessment of the defense with our top 3 safety’s out of the game. That kind of stinks. Also, without Cribbs, I would like to see more Little in this game. If he plays well he could replace him in the line-up.

by sean222 on Aug 24, 2011 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Rec’d… although I doubt they choose a chain restaurant they could hit up anywhere, in a city like Philly there has to be better places to eat.

by crazyL80 on Aug 24, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morimoto’s. Only celebrity chef restaurant I’ve ever been to, but it was worth every penny (especially since it was while there for a conference and my work paid for it.)

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Aug 24, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morimoto also makes amazing projector headlights.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Aug 24, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

a man of many talents.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Aug 25, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

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