Around the Pound (8/6): Phil Taylor Impressive, Matt Roth the Best FA, and More
If I had some fancy theme music to go along with Around the Pound, I would have played it subtly in the background to get you excited for its long-awaited return. With the offseason and lockout over, it's much easier to churn out posts that our football-related, so we actually have some more stories left over that I'd still like to touch on. Those will be highlighted in Around the Pound.
In today's edition of Around the Pound, we take a look at James Walker's visit to Browns camp, how a former member of our team is currently designated, "the best free agent on the market," how poorly the Browns were graded in free agency, and more.
Walker: Taylor and Braxton Showing Off
Perhaps this is a good sign: James Walker of ESPN called the Browns' Friday session, "the best practice Cleveland had this week." He also said it was "crisp with a lot of contact." One of his observations involved first-round pick Phil Taylor. For someone who visits other AFC North camps too, it's good to hear Walker's perspective -- his praise might have more merit than others:
Friday marked the first full-contact activity for rookie defensive tackle Phil Taylor. He had a great practice and usually got the better of Browns guard Shawn Lauvao in team drills. Taylor is hard to move and also showed the ability to get up field. It's early, but Taylor looks the part.
Could we also be in the beginning stages of a sudden battle at right tackle between a veteran and a surprising youngster?
Backup offensive tackle Branndon Braxton is showing flashes. He has good size and gets good leverage and position in pass protection. Braxton is pushing veteran Tony Pashos, the projected starter, through the first week of camp.
This is the second time I've seen Braxton praised already. Usually we hear about the backup offensive linemen playing like crap, but that's not the case with Braxton...so far. I plan on writing a, "top 5 position battles" column soon, and it looks like the right tackle position just got added to the list.
Matt Roth is the Best Free Agent Available
Former Browns linebacker Matt Roth is being deemed the best free agent currently available. He wasn't a fit in Cleveland with the switch to the 4-3 defense, but he's drawing interest from several teams.
ProFootballWeekly.com is reporting that the Cardinals and Saints and Broncos are among the teams showing interest in Roth right now, and with the ability for players who sign free agent contracts to now practice, you can expect Roth to move quickly now that teams are in on him. Whoever signs him will be getting a player who can help immediately and turn a weakness into a position that's covered enough. In Denver, he would be particularly valuable on a defense seeking to reinvent itself.
Why are the Broncos and Cardinals interested in all of our former players? If he goes to New Orleans, he would re-unite with defensive tackle Shaun Rogers.
ESPN Insider: Browns Ranked Worst in AFC in Post-Lockout Moves
Remember, this doesn't include the draft, just post-lockout moves:
Cleveland Browns
Key additions: John Greco, Brandon Jackson, Usama Young
Key losses: Eric Wright, Abram Elam
Analysis: I commend the trade for Greco. He is a good guard who rarely gets recognized, and he should do well as the starting right guard. But adding Greco isn't going to instantly make Cleveland into a winner. I like the reliability in the passing game that Jackson provides both as a receiver and in protection. But where is the flash? Where are the difference-makers? Where is the pass rush going to come from? This is a team that seems to value quantity over high quality with personnel decisions, but overall, the Browns are lacking star power and difference-makers. This free-agency period didn't help that situation. It amazes me that they haven't done more.
Grade: D
This was also written by Matt Williamson, the same guy who has trashed the Browns several times during the offseason and ranked them 32nd in the league. I can't argue the ranking too much, although I almost feel like an "incomplete" ranking would be a little more sufficient since the team chose to be inactive.
Joe Thomas Talks About Staying in Cleveland, Defends Team's Moves
"Not to say we’re never going to go after a free agent. But organizations are put together that have great championship runs by drafting smart and re-signing your young guys. Pittsburgh does it. That’s a lot of the reason they’re successful, because you draft guys that fit your system, you train ‘em and then when they get to be free agents, you re-sign ‘em and you don’t try to overextend for free agents that maybe don’t fit. So I think that’s a great plan and I’m excited that we have a plan."
Off-Beat Notes
- Everyone seemed to get excited to see Anne Hathaway's Catwoman outfit for the upcoming movie, "The Dark Knight Returns." I'm having a tough time projecting how successful the movie will be in the box office. The first one had the benefit of Heath Ledger passing away (it drew more people to the Joker character), but this next one is the final installment in Nolan's so-far outstanding work.
- Not sure if anyone is watching Big Brother 13 this season. I enjoyed seeing the veteran players return, but it's too bad the best one had to leave the game without even being voted out.
- There are several television pilots I'm interested in this year, which is a big step up from last year, when absolutely nothing drew my interest. I want to see Person of Interest, Terra Nova, and Alcatraz. Alcatraz is the one I'm most interested -- compelling science fiction concept, with a cast that I'm already drawn to from previous work. I'm also still searching for my LOST replacement, so that helps.
- Last night's Indians game? Imagine raising both of your arms in the air to stretch and then having someone unsuspectingly punching you in the stomach.
- Heading off to the Family Fun Day at the stadium soon. Go Browns!!! Most important, let's hope for everyone to stay healthy.
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I think the new Batman will be a huge hit. I just think it’ll be a letdown as a movie. Expectations are too high.
I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League
Only thing I don’t like- Bane is the main antagonist. Obvious ending is obvious.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 6, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
i saw the Bane outfit and it looks pretty silly. nothing compared to the insanity Ledger had with Joker.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you saw him pre- venom though.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 6, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
is that what it is? i guess they were just photos from the shoots so it didn’t have any of the computer graphics i’m sure he’ll get.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll say I expect more from Chris Nolan than I’ve ever expected from any director and he has only let me down with The Prestige, which was still a decent movie.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Oh yeah. I agree. I’ll still very much enjoy it. I wish this wasn’t the last one he was directing.
I actually I’m not as big into the genre as others. I just think some people will be disappointment if they don’t reach the bar level of the Dark Knight. That movie was unreal.
I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League
Agree on last nights Indians game, except I went to bed in the ninth and got punched in the stomach at 3:00 am when I woke up and saw they lost. That hurt. And to see that Detroit won in 10 innings was someone stomping on my feet.
i was really poised to take a victory shot of SoCo in the 9th inning with the 2 out pop flies. Perez is usually dynamite as a closer, but when he gave up that base hit and home run to tie it i just dropped my head in sadness.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thefirstsecond one had the benefit of Heath Ledger passing away (it drew more people to the Joker character)
the first movie was okay, but the second with Ledger was by far the most amazing part about it. his role as the Joker was really the only reason why i wanted to see it and i was psyched after seeing it on the opening night.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
Batman Begins was awesome. People just poop on it all the time cus TDK was so good and had Ledger’s awesome performance. Batman v the Joker is IMO an unmatched Hero/Villain rivalry.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Batman v the Joker is IMO an unmatched Hero/Villain rivalry.
Optimus v. Megaton
Master Chief v. The Universe.
So, it’s still top three though.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Aug 6, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Browns vs Steelers
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 7, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
best cartoon ever.
period.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 7, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really think it was because he passed away. Yes, that was something that was known, but it would still have that intense feeling even he were alive to enjoy the fame that came with the role.
Only thing manlier than football? Ponies.
by BrownDawg1409 on Aug 6, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s a terrible shame he didn’t live to see how much people enjoyed his performance.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
When I wrote that, I was trying to classify it as the first of the movies with The Dark Knight in the title. As excellent as Batman Begins was, I think a lot of people will consider The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Returns as the “big” movies, forgetting the stage-setter.
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by Chris Pokorny on Aug 6, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw Batman:
http://www.nationalfootballauthority.com/2011/08/pittsburgh-steelers-players-to-make.html
Scarlett Johansson is way hotter as Black Widow anyway:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4087449856/ch0020745
i’m totally looking forward to the Avengers movies next year. and yeah Scarlett Johansson is definitely one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood right now.
as far as the Steelers cameo, it’s just a publicity stunt, albeit a bad one, but i won’t hold it against the movie when i watch it. i’ll cringe if i see any Steeler faces while watching it, but otherwise it’s not that big of a deal.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Hathaway is a horrible fit at catwoman. She doesn’t embody the same sexuality and physicality of the previous catwomen.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 6, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
But the point isn’t to emulate previous movies. Heath Ledger didn’t exactly make sense as the joker.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
The Joker and Catwoman are two totally different characters.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 6, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
You missed my point. You said you didn’t like the Anne Hathaway casting because she isn’t like previous Catwomans. Heath Ledger wasn’t like previous Jokers, and that turned out alright.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
You’re red herring the hell out of me.
I don’t like Anne Hathaway as the catwoman because she doesn’t embody the physically, sexuality, and atmosphere of catwoman, in which the previous ones did.
As for what I meant by the differences between Joker and Catwoman which tied my point together, because of all the make-up, voice changes, costumes and essentially the de-humanization of the character, the joker disconnect himself from the actor playing it. The persona completely camouflaged Ledger and the only thing that shined through that was the talent itself.
Unlike the joker, the catwoman character doesn’t blanket the actress. Whatever personality, ambiance and sexuality the original actress hold, will become Catwoman persona for that movie. and she’ll be out of costume for most of the movie.
I personally think Hathaway doesn’t have the ambiance that you would expect from a Catwoman. She has the atmosphere of a librarian, not a seductive, athletic burglar with cat reflexes. The movie will own and I’m sure Nolan will achieve his goals, but I still think it will be an odd fit
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 6, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
damn I sound like a nerd. too much effort for a comic book movie
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 6, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the thing is Ledgers Joker wasn’t that that far from some of the comic books. Cat woman is always strAight up sex in the comic books. Movies are something different but Nolan seems to go much darker which lends itself to the comics.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Jolie would’ve been an amazing Catwoman. but even as much as i’m head over heels for her she’s probably a little too old for that role these days.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his point was we should wait and see, given what we know from the last movie. Hathaway seems more natural playing faeries and stuff like that but who knows, maybe she pulls it off.
by HenryDawg on Aug 6, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn’t too pumped about Anne Hathaway as Catwoman until I just read this:
Prior to the announcement of her casting, the rumor mill (and fanboys everywhere)’s leading frontrunners were Angelina Joile and Megan Fox.
If they would have casted Megan Fox there’s a very real chance I wouldn’t have bothered to see this movie.
"Quote goes here."
Catwoman is typically a pretty lame character… I was disappointed that they even decided to bring her in in the first place. I cant remember a single comic I’ve read with her in it that I’ve really enjoyed having her around. “Hush” maybe? Blech.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
you know as i was just thinking about the Batman cartoon from the 90s (i never read the comics so that’s my only history of Batman) and remembering Catwoman’s character in the show like how bipolar she was, it’s too bad Brittany Murphy passed away cause she would’ve been the perfect candidate for that role. not that i’m implying Murphy was actually bipolar, but from roles i’ve seen her play before she would fit that character well.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If they would have casted Megan Fox there’s a very real chance I wouldn’t have bothered to see this movie.
Totally agree. I’m hoping that’s a false rumor as I would really question Nolan’s integrity after even THINKING about that.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 6, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think is funny how, here we have Chris Nolan, director of great films like Memento, Following, Inception, Insomnia, and The dark Knight among others, and then we have us – avage schmucks who know practically next to nothing about film. But when a casting decision offends our senses, we’re more inclined to question the master (Nolan) than ourselves.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
in most cases i would agree with you, but after seeing her role in the first Transformer movie (which was the only one of the three i saw because it was okay, but nothing great) i’m inclined to agree with others that Megan Fox would’ve been a terrible choice. but then i also wouldn’t take it as far as to say that i would question Nolan’s integrity.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no such thing as a human being who doesn’t make mistakes.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 6, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but not really relevant to anything I said.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
It really is. What he’s saying is Nolan isn’t infallible, not that you were necessarily saying he was. The point is, no one is ever above scrutiny. I do get what you were saying though. We’re all armchair QBs at heart.
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 6, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It really sn’t because, as you so succinctly put it:
What he’s saying is Nolan isn’t infallible, not that you were necessarily saying he was.
My point is that he’s willing to discredit a master of his craft based on one decision instead of considering that maybe the master has some insight and he (someone with presumably no filmmaking experience) in fact could possibly maybe potentially one day somehow in some way be maybe just a teeny weeny little bit wrong on something. So if what he said was relevant at all, it was to point to his own lack of perfection.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
What he’s saying is Nolan isn’t infallible
Not true, he says he questions Nolan’s integrity. thats something different and goes more to the core of him as a person rather than his decisions.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Right. He did cast Katie Holmes originally and then had to replace her for the 2nd movie.
by Roger Dorn on Aug 6, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
which has nothing to do with his integrity. you called the man out on his integrity, not one decision he made. stop trolling.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Bross, what the HELL are you talking about
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 7, 2011 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Jack Nicholson played Jokers part pretty well, but Ledger put the psychotic nature of the Joker above and beyond anything i ever expected.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
No, the other first one.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Aug 6, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy campy acting Batman!
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 7, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Need some input.
I was going to move to England in March. But my step-mom just spent two weeks in hot Cleveland meeting my family. Now she wants to move there. Already looking at houses. Should I go to England or become a Browns season ticket holder? I’m torn on the opportunities. This just came up this morning, so I don’t know what to do.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
Screw the Limeys, support your team. Okay, fanhood (and homerism) aside I heard England is a beautiful area, and Cleveland is a kind of depressed area.
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 6, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Channing Crowder thinks you should live in Cleveland, so you don’thave to learn a new language.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 6, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess the plusses for Cleveland is that it’s very cheap to live here if you have job stability. I would love to live in England as well though. I can’t really give an opinion. Same reason as notthatnoise.
I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League
I don’t understand the cheap living thing. I constantly hear my parents talk about how much taxes were back in Cleveland. At least, in the suburbs of Cleveland they were a lot.
But the base price of everything is very low. My apartment that I pay $400 a month for in Cleveland would be a few thousand a month in some places.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
A $400 a month apartment in Cleveland would be $1000 here in Chitcago
by The Licensed Pessimist on Aug 7, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
My apartment has brand new everything too. New floors, windows, appliances, laundry in the basement, paint, etc. A good friend of mine in chicago told me he paid $400 a month and when I went to visit it was like sleeping in a closet with a toilet in the corner.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 8, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks guys. I’m leaning towards Cleveland. Only because I can’t see my Kosar sitting in quarantine for 6 months. It would break my heart.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Aug 6, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s my baby.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Aug 8, 2011 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I know nothing about this Branndon Braxton — where did he come from? I suppose that he’s a rookie UDFA. Where did he play in college and was he any good? It would be nice to get a good RT out of nowhere and really stabilize our offensive line.
I thought I remembered reading that he was on our practice squad last year or something, but I can’t find the source of that so take it with a grain of salt.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
well i clicked the link on his name where Chris mentions him up above, but Braxton may not actually exist because the webpage is just continuously loading and not coming up with anything. anyone else having the same issue?
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 6, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Undrafted in 2009 and was signed by the Browns.
Not much info on him, he did play with the Las Vegas Locomotives in ‘09-’10.
From what I can tell, he was with the Browns last season, don’t know for how long though.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 6, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
according to grossi’s twitter, jim donovan should be back in time to call the first regular season game. good to hear
“D” for Dandy!!!
This next season is abhige transition into the new CBA. We weren’t in a position to Qin anything this season, so why not ride the new wave into 2012 and 2013???
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 6, 2011 6:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I fell inclined to comment solely on the part about Catwoman in the next Batman film.
I have been reading how her character is written soooo well in this script that she could seriously still the show just like Heath Ledger’s Joker did.
Obviously, the Joker’s performance was amplified due to the unfortunate death of the actor, but my point is, Anne Hathaway’s character and the script is already getting a tremendous amount of positive feedback—which is a very, very sign in my opinion.
I’m all about Batman but I’m more a fan of Christopher Nolan and his work.
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48 posts… and Batman is what inclines you to actually discuss something.
Just saying.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Aug 6, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
to be fair, he has had very few fanposts posted on here recently…no more than anyone else, its just that they happen to be of a website he writes for.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I have been reading how her character is written soooo well in this script that she could seriously still the show just like Heath Ledger’s Joker did.
I will be shocked if that happens. I’ve never ever been blown away by Catwoman in any capacity in any appearance in any medium.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Just saw that NFLNet is airing the preseason game against the Packers.
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 6, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
I believe (could be wrong) that it’s a home game so hopefully it’ll be our announcers.
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by North Coast Flea on Aug 6, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They split it – one half for 1 and the other half for the other…
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 6, 2011 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That is how they do it on the NFL Network. Don’t know about on-line though.
by Bernie19Kosar on Aug 6, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You can subscribe to “Preseason Live” for $20 and watch any preseason game live online (including the “replay”, meaning you can bring it up and replay it later as well).
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Aug 6, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
are you sure? i guess i don’t recall watching preseason games on NFL Net, but that just seems really odd to me. and besides a drunk Kosar makes for great television. they would be silly not to air him for the full 3 hours.
Yvan Eht Nioj.
by Brownsbacker488 on Aug 7, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Phil Taylor from Baylor, take it easy and don´t overexert, it´s a long season. And eat your porridge, maintain your muscle mass. I´m reminded of a movie I saw with two guys on treadmills working out next to each other. One is running and the other is walking briskly eating a candy bar. When the runner tries to make fun of the walker, he retorts: “Your burning muscle, I´m burning fat!”.
Braxton kicking it is wonderful, but once again, why draft a Pinkston, when we could have used linebackers?
Just bought my plane tix for my cousin’s wedding in Cleveland. I’ll be there for a week. Too bad it’s our Bye Week. I want to see Browns Stadium.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
DAMN IT!! And baseball season ends the week before I get there. There goes Jacobs Field idea.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Aug 7, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
if?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Aug 8, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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