Cleveland Browns Announce 53-Man Roster, RB Brandon Jackson Put on IR
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 3, 2011 11:06 PM EDT
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PrintWe start things off today with some bad news -- running back Brandon Jackson was placed on the injured reserve with a toe injury, meaning he'll be out the entire season. He joins teammates Eric Steinbach and Reggie Hodges on that list. All three players are a big loss, but Jackson was having such a great camp prior to his toe injury that it's really a shame to hear that he won't be a part of this offense. That means Montario Hardesty will really have to step his game up to provide some depth behind Peyton Hillis.
The following players were cut by the Cleveland Browns, trimming their roster from 80 to the league required 53 players. Make sure you react to all of the cuts in the comments section below! The final 53-man roster is also at the bottom of this post.
(Key: Expected Cut, Highlighted/Notable Cut, Shocker Cut)
OFFENSIVE PLAYERS CUT
- QB Jarrett Brown - His arm offers some reason to be intrigued, but he offered no incentive to be on the final roster. I think he'll be on the practice squad.
- FB Tyler Clutts - I think the coaching staff really liked Clutts, and even though practice squad fullbacks don't seem traditional, I think he'll be on there.
- RB Quinn Porter - Because Jackson was placed on the IR and the lack of proven depth behind Hillis, Porter will probably be kept on the practice squad as insurance.
- WR Rod Windsor - He was quietly consistent throughout the duration of camp and could be worth a second look.
- WR Demetrius Williams - He had some good place, but there wasn't enough room for another veteran receiver on the final roster.
- WR L.J. Castile - I originally pegged him as a practice squad receiver, so we'll see if he ends up there or if it is Windsor who makes it.
- WR Chris Matthews - I know he had the height, but he didn't have the hands in camp.
- TE Evan Frosch - We weren't going to keep a fifth tight end.
- OG Jarrod Shaw - Never stood out.
- OG Dominic Alford - Never stood out.
- OT Branndon Braxton - I had a hunch that Braxton would be waived, but this is still a slight surprise because he was seeing a little bit of action with the first-team offense at right tackle early in camp. He also looked like the primary backup tackle behind Thomas at one point.
- OT Phil Trautwein - Never stood out.
- OT Calton Ford - Never stood out.
DEFENSIVE PLAYERS CUT
- DE Travis Ivey - I was correct to move him to my "cut" list at the last second, as the staff was more interested in keeping Paxson.
- DT Ko Quaye - Not needed.
- DL Brian Sanford - Not needed.
- DL Andre Carroll - Not needed.
- LB Brian Smith - I don't mind this move, because Smith only received significant playing time due to Fujita's injury. Still, because of the team's injury problems at linebacker, I thought he'd be on there. Jacobs made it instead.
- LB Archie Donald - Not needed.
- LB Sidney Tarver - Not needed.
- LB Steve Octavien - He had some aggression early in camp, but kind of faded out over the last two preseason games. He could have offered something on special teams.
- LB Eric Gordon - Not needed.
- CB Carl Gettis - Not needed.
- CB Coye Francies - I always liked Francies, but the emergence of Dockery and the drafting of Skrine kind of sealed his fate.
- CB Ramzee Robinson - The veteran was able to make a couple of plays in camp, but did anyone really think he had a chance at making the final roster?
- S DeAngelo Smith - I think Smith could still be a practice squad candidate, but it seems like I always say that about him.
FORMER BROWNS PLAYERS WAIVED
- QB Graham Harrell (Packers)
- RB Thomas Clayton (Seahawks)
- OT Kirk Chambers (Lions)
- OG Floyd Womack (Cardinals) *placed on injured reserve
- DT Swanson Miller (Saints)
- LB Kevin Bentley (Chargers)
- S Nate Ness (Dolphins)
- CB Don Carey (Jaguars)
FINAL 53-MAN ROSTER (on 9/3/11)
QB (2):
-Colt McCoy
-Seneca Wallace
RB (3):
-Peyton Hillis
-Montario Hardesty
-Armond Smith
FB (1):
-Owen Marecic
WR (6):
-Brian Robiskie
-Mohamed Massaquoi
-Joshua Cribbs
-Greg Little
-Jordan Norwood
-Carlton Mitchell
TE (4):
-Benjamin Watson
-Evan Moore
-Jordan Cameron
-Alex Smith
OL (9):
-Joe Thomas
-Jason Pinkston
-Alex Mack
-Shawn Lauvao
-Tony Pashos
-John Greco
-Oniel Cousins
-Steve Vallos
-Pat Murray
DL (9):
-Jabaal Sheard
-Ahtyba Rubin
-Phil Taylor
-Jayme Mitchell
-Marcus Benard
-Brian Schafering
-Derreck Robinson
-Scott Paxson
-Auston English
LB (6):
-Scott Fujita
-D'Qwell Jackson
-Chris Gocong
-Kaluka Maiva
-Titus Brown
-Benjamin Jacobs
S (5):
-T.J. Ward
-Usama Young
-Mike Adams
-Eric Hagg
-Ray Ventrone
CB (5):
-Joe Haden
-Sheldon Brown
-Dimitri Patterson
-Buster Skrine
-James Dockery
ST (3):
-Phil Dawson
-Richmond McGee
-Ryan Pontbriand
I ended up being correct with 50 of my 53 roster projections. The ones that I missed who ended up making it were Paxson, Jacobs, and Cousins. One other sidenote: Dave Zastudil ended up making the Cardinals roster as their new punter.
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So were not carrying a 3rd QB at all?
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
josh cribbs is our third qb, and joe thomas can fill in at any time
by THEbrownsfan on Sep 3, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean Joe Thomas is our QB and just happens to let other people play the position…
Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.
3rd QBs are wasted roster spots in my opinion. I’ve always advocated for only keeping 2.
by Dammit Cerrato... on Sep 4, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m guessing he is a practice squad target
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 3, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hagg has upside. If we were going to cut a safety, it’d be Ventrone.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Are we sure Hagg has upside? We haven’t seen him play an NFL snap and I’m guessing he was a seventh round pick for a reason.
Ventrone may be awful, but better to be awful with experience than awful without.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Well if Hagg had no upside we wouldn’t have drafted him, I’m guessing. Ventrones are pretty easy to find. If Hagg never works out, the Ventrones of the world will be easily replaced.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Maybe Hagg is a Ventrone of this world.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I agree about Coye Francies, but given how well Dockery and Scrine have been playing, I also think it’s the right choice. I have no doubt, however, that Francies will catch on somewhere else. It also doesn’t surprise me that they are only keeping two quarterbacks. The chances that Colt and Seneca Wallace both go down in the same game are slim, but stranger things have happened. In that case, my guess would be that Cribbs would take over for the remainder of the game until they could sign someone else.
RE: Surpising cut
Only surprise for me was Jacobs beating out Smith at LB. No clue as to the rationale for this one, but I haven’t seen the coaches’ tape. Hope Smith will be retained on the practice squad along with Braxton who was also a mild surprise.
I wonder if we would have kept Armond Smith if Jackson didn’t get hurt?
The person who doesn't scatter the morning dew will not comb gray hairs"- HST
I’d say Smith pretty much had no chance at the final roster if Jackson was healthy. If that was the case, then Porter would’ve made it on this final list.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 3, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This makes me think Porter definitely make the practice squad. I also think Brian Smith and Brandon Braxton make it since they stood out.
I don’t think Braxton will clear waivers. I don’t see there being much interest in Smith or Porter though.
The person who doesn't scatter the morning dew will not comb gray hairs"- HST
by FatmanCometh on Sep 4, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The final roster makes me think Titus Brown is close to coming back. No way we go into the season with 5 healthy (if Gocong and Fujita are healthy) LBs and a hurt backup.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2011 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
I’m happy with the moves. I kind of want to see the Browns bring in Donnie Avery or Brandon Tate and then maybe drop Mitchell to the PS.
And on an Ohio State note, Chekwa made it with the Raiders, Dane Sanzenbacher made it with the Bears, Brandon Saine was cut by the Packers, and Ross Homan was cut by the Vikings. So yeah.
I’d cut Smith for Saine.
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by BrownDawg1409 on Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Always seemed like he should have been so much better.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 4, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Draft picks go 7 for 7. These guys really believe in their guys. I still question Vickers for Marecic but otherwise love the confidence in the guys they pick and not wasting picks on guys who they don’t think will contribute.
by HenryDawg on Sep 4, 2011 2:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Vickers is a good FB who served the Browns well but just didn’t fit the new scheme. He skill set is better suited to Houston. I still expect great Thib from Marecic.
The only people down on him at the moment (not the coaches) are the fans who still mourn the loss of Vickers.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Sep 4, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Vickers skill set = Marecic if you compare college notes and stats. Vickers jus wasnt asked to catch with Mangini around so he focused on his blocking. When Vickers got drafted though he was considered HB/FB- much like a certain Peyton Hillis on our team…..
he was considered HB/FB- much like a certain Peyton Hillis on our team…..
You aren’t seriously making this comparison are you?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
why not? Wasn’t hillis drafted as a FB?
by The Licensed Pessimist on Sep 4, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No he wasn’t. He was drafted as a rb.
Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.
by SpecialBrownie on Sep 4, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather take an answer from someone who didn’t make up things on the fly
After being drafted in 2008, Hillis rose to the top of the depth chart as the starting fullback for the Broncos before being ushered to the starting running back position due to injuries to the running back corps
by The Licensed Pessimist on Sep 4, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he played RB/FB in college and had potential as both, but was drafted as a FB. I hate to agree with LP here, but he is right. Three different sources list Hillis as being drafted as a FB and that isn’t including the infallible wikipedia. He definitely had some good potential as a FB/RB, but he wasn’t drafted as a pure RB.
However, I do not agree with bobby above because Vickers was definitely not drafted as a FB/RB
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
NTN is right, Hillis showed an ability to run the ball at Arkansas. His career he averaged almost 5 YPC, including a 5.6 his senior season.
Vickers on the other hand was never very good rushing the ball at CU, averaging only 3.7 YPC for his career.
I don’t think anyone was thinking Vickers was a RB.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 4, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think anyone is saying Vickers is the new Hillis.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Sep 4, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
When Vickers got drafted though he was considered HB/FB- much like a certain Peyton Hillis on our team…..
That is what I got from this. If I’m wrong, I apologize to bobby.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 4, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I want Chester Taylor to back up Hillis, he was cut by the Bears,
"There's a gleam men, there's a gleam!" Marty
I kind of thought the same thing, but I realized he was just name. The production is not there for a straight up back-up. His performance is not there and he does not match this teams mantra. They will look for someone younger.
by SBP on Sep 4, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
at this point, Chester Taylor is mike bell.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
He’s worse. At least Mike Bell doesn’t demand playing time when he doesn’t deserve it. He knows his role.
I prefer Smith’s speed and potential.
by HenryDawg on Sep 4, 2011 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A couple of wild wire pick-up predictions for the Browns:
1. Macho Harris – Cut by Pittsburgh he was a 2009 Eagles pick by Heckert and as we have seen he likes his picks
2. Chris Ivory – Cut by the Saints, but he had a very productive 2010 (also went ot Tiffin)
I think those reporting that Ivory was cut are mistaken, as he was actually put on the PUP list due to an injury.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 4, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
BEST TEAM IN YEARS!!!
I’m excited about this new season!
for the first time in a long time, even sportswriters are being optimistic about the browns. i think a 500 season is not out of the realm of possibility. and who knows? a few surprises here and there… well, i wont get carried away… lol
but this should be the most exciting year for the new browns to date. anyone else agree?
If I hear "wait til next year!" one more time... "&*&^$%#@()*%*&()%#$^*()%$"
first time in a long time? In 2008 they were basically handing us the AFC North. We were everyones “up and coming” team.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Sep 4, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If by “team” you include Heckert and Shurmer, you are probably right. Throw in Jauron, too.
At least we don’t have Prima Donna WRs running around in bare feet only to get their foot stomped on.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Sep 4, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well, yeah, but i didnt feel it then like i feel it now… just being optimistic. i believe we have a better team than in 08. dont you?
If I hear "wait til next year!" one more time... "&*&^$%#@()*%*&()%#$^*()%$"
I think we had a more talented team going in to 08. Now we have a team with more potential. We also had more hype back then. We may have some of the more national writers calling our praises right now, but in 08 we were the media darling and everyone was crawling out of the woodwork to say how good the Browns were going to be.
Seeing as you’re somewhat new here, I’ll give you a short rundown. At the bottom of each comment there are two buttons (three on replies) “+ reply” and “* actions” , hit the reply button when you want to address a specific comment and the threads flow more smoothly. The third button is “^ up” which in the longer comment strings takes you up to the comment that was replied to so conversations don’t get confusing. The other thing is we don’t really use the subject line around here except for when posting a large picture to make it collapse-able for those with lower bandwidths. Welcome to DBN, your life will be forever changed. It’s more addictive than crack.
cautiously realistic
by North Coast Flea on Sep 4, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I had any say, I would strongly look at Brandon Meriweather and Jacob Ford. Both could start, and are young talented players that could fit what Heckert has been doing. Have Young back up Brandon, Adams backs up Ward and we have a deep secondary. Ford could start opposite of Sheard, or provide a quality back-up with experience.
I wonder how long it will take for teams to sign their dumpster diving gems? I doubt any of our cuts get picked up elsewhere right away (until injuries have more impacts on rosters), and there has to be a dozen guys now unemployed who could make our roster better (all in the same positions- so don’t get excited and think I want to cut 12 off current roster). I hope HH&S are looking at defensive depth for the next couple days.
Brandon Meriweather was a first round pick in 2007, has played in two pro bowls, and we need DB depth according to everyone but Ray Ventron’s mom.
The snozberries taste like snozberries!
Taylor
Chester Taylor would be a nice backup for Hillis, and Tate would be good insurance for our shaky wr position
Chester Taylor would not be a nice backup anywhere, he barely puts up mike bell numbers.
Not sure about Tate either. He doesn’t have a ton of value outside of special teams.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I feel like Chester Taylor gets mentioned in every single thread as part of a giant conspiracy to troll me.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Sep 4, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I feel like the sentiment that Marecic over Vickers wasn’t a blatant mistake by our FO is part of a giant conspiracy to troll the rest of us.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Sep 5, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Funny thing is, outside of this forum, there doesn’t seem to be much of controversy at all as far as the FB decision is concerned. I like how some keep fanning the embers hoping to stoke something up, though.
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Sep 5, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I would not agree with this. I’ve seen readers of other blogs and the PD bemoan the swap. I think what most people are upset with was that we used a 4th round pick, that could have been used on say Casey Matthews to do it. And also swapping a position of strength for the potential of strength when we have areas of weakness or lack of depth that need to be addressed. Also Marecic has looked pretty bad out there so far.
Also only saw one play by the Texans this pre-season and it was Vickers catching a 20 yard swing pass from Schaub. True story.
by HenryDawg on Sep 5, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It must have been a dream because Vickers does not have the ability to catch a football. That has already been establish in our one-sided debate last month.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 5, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s fair to trust our front office when it comes to evaluating players in the draft since they’ve been so successful since they’ve been here. Vickers wasn’t a fit for this offense so they moved on. Maybe Maricec isn’t the answer but I don’t think the fate of our offense is going to rest of the success of our fullback.
First things first, we haven’t been mods since the day we joined the site. I’m not sure when B19K became a mod but you’ll notice all of the links containing me or rufio are from before we were mods.
Secondly, Brad is the one who hid your comment and he isn’t in any of those links. Also, site standards change. We’ve been trying to crack down on language lately. Things that were overlooked months or in some cases years ago in those links would not be overlooked now.
Finally, and this is really the most important one, don’t do this in public. You’ve been here a long time. You know the policy. You are not above the rules. Brad even made it a point to tell you it wasn’t really a warning.
Since you chose to ignore that, consider this an actual warning.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Finally, and this is really the most important one, don’t do this in public.
Sorry, I normally agree with you, but that’s BS. Brad publicly gave SB the business above. Plenty of people make juvenile statements like LOLLOL and go a bit too far with ludicrious statements and never get called out for it in a thread.
Heck, people are rude to Moon all the time. There’s a clear double standard in what behavior is accepted and when it’s accepted. I’m almost certain in this very thread Rufio insulted realmccoy.
Mangini apologist by default.
by Villeslgr on Sep 5, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Then flag it. I’ve had my fair share of run ins with Brad over that kind of thing in the past so I’m not going there. If you have a complaint email us or Chris. You’re going to lose all sympathy from me if you do it in the middle of a thread. I’ve told people before that I was wrong to hide a comment and then brought it back before. But not once for someone that made a big deal about it in the middle of a thread.
You’ll notice I didn’t tell SB to keep it private, did I? Nobody called out Simmsinns here. In fact, he was explicitly told that he wasn’t getting a warning. He chose to make a big deal out of it. SB may have acted like an idiot, but it wasn’t his choice to have a conversation about it here.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I’ve told people before that I was wrong to hide a comment and then brought it back before.
I can attest to this, I even tried to make it not public by offering to hash it out over email. The only reason I even put a comment up on it is that I didn’t know which mod to email.
"I really don’t really think... -Pat Shurmur
by North Coast Flea on Sep 5, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
tldr
You’ll notice I didn’t tell SB to keep it private, did I?
I did notice that you didn’t tell SB to keep it private, which is why I said I normally agree with you. However I don’t see how calling how a member as Brad did is different than calling out a mod as sims did.
Honestly I truly respect the job that you guys do and I agree SB was probably acting a bit silly within the above thread. The problem is that many people do that and don’t get publicly called out on it. In addition, sometimes it feels like the rules on what we can do are loose and then other times it’s tighter than. LIke I said I respect what you all do and I wouldn’t want your job, but it definitely gets frustrating when you see certain things sliding by while other things don’t. Especially when they’re followed about a scolding about how immature, stupid, etc. a comment is.
And for the record, I flag many things as you probably know. The problem with flagging is that all it does is remove a comment and possibly lead to a ban. It doesn’t change behavior. As much as SB does things that annoys or pisses people off and probably deserves to be flagged sometimes (I’ve gotten into it with him before), Brad absolutely picks on him quite a bit and then tries to play the more mature than thou role. That’s annoying and it hurts other conversations because that stuff lingers around when it shouldn’t.
In addition, what’s the difference between the onslaught of insults directed at SB and what SB does that annoys people? Both sides are doing things that are supposedly against the community’s rules. And the biggest example of this is moon, but moon doesn’t complain about it so it’s excepted for people to crap on him all the time, including mods. When rules aren’t applied evenly to everyone in each situation problems like this come up.
At the end of the day, you guys run the site well and things like this only come up every few months, but when they do, the situation is highly sensitive because of what slips by quite
Mangini apologist by default.
I don’t pick on SB — I would do the same to anyone who does things like that. He just does it more than anyone else then whines that I’m picking on him even though many other people are clearly tired of his behavior.
I called out his statement above because he was being argumentative just for the sake of it. He clearly contradicted his previous comment just so that he could say he was right. I don’t understand what’s wrong with telling someone to stop doing that. If it was anyone else it would be fine, but somehow SB thinks I’m not allowed to say anything to him.
You can say or think whatever you want — I don’t care. I try to do the best job that I can on here and be fair to everyone and I’m confident that I do my best, and I know that Chris feels that way too which is all that matters to me. He sees the stuff that goes on here and what people say to us, and that’s why he always has to post a “please listen to the mods” thread about once a year when people start whining and complaining every time we say something to them. I wasn’t being harsh or rude above, I just told him what he was doing wrong and asked him to stop it. You can twist the facts however you want to but I don’t pick on people and I don’t act immature like others do sometimes on this site — that is why Chris asked me to be a mod many years ago before most people got here.
Moon gets away with the same stuff directed at Chris all the time too.
I really don’t really think... - Tom Heckert
by North Coast Flea on Sep 6, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude he’s done that a handful of times.
Everytime Moon makes a comment there’s five more picking on him underneath.
Mangini apologist by default.
You are both under and over exaggerating in one comment.
I really don’t really think... - Tom Heckert
by North Coast Flea on Sep 6, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno. It’s not like he’s the short, quiet kid that everyone targets as the number one bullying option. He’s obviously smart, and he does respond to a lot of people that make fun of his ideas. He doesn’t just take it. I don’t see the point of singling him out as somebody that anybody can say anything to.
In addition, sometimes it feels like the rules on what we can do are loose and then other times it’s tighter than.
It’s the hardest thing to do, and even more so when it is 5 different people. We try to communicate with each other as much as possible so we can keep things uniform, but there are things that bother me, that won’t bother NTN, or Rufio, or BB. I think that sometimes I will take a comment down, but two days later a mod responds to somethng very similarly with no action, and people don’t understand why. I understand that frustration.
I don’t want anyone to think that the mods are out to get you. I have had numerous email exchanges with members here, all of them positive.
I hope that everyone understands that we don’t hate anyone, or come down on people personally. Heck, I could walk by almost anyone on here in the store and not know them from Joe Schmoe. We are all part of the same team, and that is forgotten sometimes.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 6, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Before I go to bed
SB may have acted like an idiot
Read my comment at the bottom.
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 6, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Just my two cents… but I think getting different mods may help if there was a way to assign people to be mods without making it public.
I think the mods do a great job. But the problem is the community is set up where everyone posts and is on the same level, so it becomes difficult for the mods to separate themselves when they have to bring the hammer down on somebody. Also, I remember Chris asking for more mods and not many where willing to step up to the plate.
Like I said, these guys do a great job, but their job is difficult and stuff like this will probably come up often.
Mangini apologist by default.
I don’t really have any complaints about the mods. I wouldn’t want their job either. I just have sensed some hostility on the board lately.
Hesitant to ask… but do you know if he was banned?
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 8, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
My personal opinion is that there has to be some way of knowing who the mods are, or else there will be no one to be held accountable when things do come up. We’ve got enough anonymity on the internet as it is.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Sep 5, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have an issue with people knowing that I am a mod. It allows people to get an answer on why something disappeared or why they were warned.
I worked many jobs where people straight hated my guts, and in a couple cases literally tried to kill me. I can take DBN, it’s easy here.
by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 6, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like bemoaning the fact that we didn’t draft either Matthews boy gets mentioned every thread as a giant conspiracy to troll all of our draft picks the past couple of years.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
by Dawg Nuts on Sep 6, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that could have been used on say Casey Matthews to do it.
we’re now talking about all the idiot fans who have bemoaned the decision of the browns not to get Casey matthews because his lineage says he should play here. If its the same fans complaining that the browns didn’t get a mlb with limited range who happens to be Clay Jr’s son, I will tend to take what they say with a grain of salt.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Aw, you figured us out. Our elaborate plan to "stoke something up" from the depths of these very comment sections however, wasn’t nearly sophisticated enough for the brilliant likes of you. Tell me sir, what was it that allowed you to bring our house of cards tumbling to the ground and unravel our secret ember fanning plot?
Wait, well either that’s happening or the idea is just incredibly stupid. At least I’m glad you like it, though.
"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert
by Simmsinns on Sep 5, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Again, the fb situation isn’t so much about the swap of the two players, but the logic, reasoning and the actual process. It still makes no sense. But then again, Mangini’s one year of coaching Jayme Mitchell will go down as keeping him out of the Hall of Fame.
Mangini apologist by default.
by Villeslgr on Sep 5, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A few people have talking about the surprise cuts and saying the browns should get one. In reality, most of these guys were cut for a reason. The only guys really worth giving a roster spot two are merriweather who isn’t available anymore and Igor Olshansky who has never played in a 4-3. After that, you have guys coming off of serious injuries (Donnie Avery) or guys that just flat out suck (James Hardy). No point in seriously going after these guys.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Looks like you guys just claimed
former Rams qb thaddeus lewis. He looked pretty solid in the preseason game
Peace to all as we enter into our final week of preparations for a new season.
2011, it’s a new Brown!
Mangini apologist by default.
by Villeslgr on Sep 6, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Holy hidden comments Batman! I foresee a community guidelines re-post in the near future.
I really don’t really think... - Tom Heckert
by North Coast Flea on Sep 6, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
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