Tony Pashos Works With First Teamers, and Everyone Else is Practicing
(Rubs eyes)
What's this? Am I seeing things correctly? Indeed I am.
Not including the players on the injured reserve, as of Thursday, you can say that the Cleveland Browns as a team are in the best shape injury-wise all season. One of the big reasons is that it appears right tackle Tony Pashos will be able to start at right tackle this Sunday against the Tennessee Titans. I know I've gotten my hopes up for Pashos every week since the beginning of the season, so it wouldn't be unprecedented for there to be a letdown. Pashos has been practicing with the starters this week though, something that wasn't happening the other weeks.
Do you know what the best thing about Pashos starting would be? Because the pass blocking improves, it's easier to put tight end Evan Moore on the field for some snaps again.
Head coach Pat Shurmur was asked if backup right tackle Artis Hicks could still start if Pashos is healthy this week, but Shurmur made it clear that there is no competition going on there. "No, if Tony is [ready] then he starts," said Shurmur. If Pashos starts, could Hicks suddenly take over for rookie left guard Jason Pinkston, who has had his share of struggles? Shurmur shot that idea down as well. "We won’t disrupt the left guard," said Shurmur. "We’ve got one little area we’re working on and we’ll try to stick with that."
The two other players who have been out all season include backup middle linebacker Titus Brown and rookie reserve safety Eric Hagg. Brown practiced on Wednesday and Thursday for the first time since suffering a high ankle sprain in the preseason finale at the end of August. Shurmur seemed weary on Brown's prospects of playing this Sunday though:
"We’re going to have to evaluate him. He did well yesterday. With his ankle though, we’re going to have to see how well he does today because he hasn’t practiced in a while. Remember, when guys are coming back sometimes too much is worse than not enough. We’ll have to see where we’re at with that and see how he does today. We haven’t decided on him, he’s a guy we’ll have to decide on. There’s a solid chance that he won’t play though." [Link to press conference]
Another comment that Shurmur added indicated that Brown would be active on gameday whenever he is healthy. "No question," said Shurmur. "He backs up D’Qwell and he’s a four phase special teams guy."
Nothing was said about Hagg, but according to the practice report, he has been participating in sessions at a limited capacity.
If you had not heard, starting running back Peyton Hillis has said that he's recovered from strep throat and will start against the Titans. He said that he lost 10-12 pounds due to the illness and is working hard to get ready for the game.
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Do you know what the best thing about Pashos starting would be? Because the pass blocking improves, it’s easier to put tight end Evan Moore on the field
Two other things come to mind right away:
1. Artis Hicks
2. Oniel Cousins
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 30, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
Well played.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 30, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t understand. He’s saying things will be better when Pashos replaces Hicks & Cousins, who have been rotating at RT. Thus the pass blocking improves. Thus you get it to Moore et al.
Let’s hope they can find something that works. We should be concerned about the Titan defense, which isn’t bad and has racked up a bunch of sacks.
He means the best thing about Pashos playing is that you remove Hicks and Cousins from the field.
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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 30, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. Thanks.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 30, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, the scared the hell out of me, but have played fairly well considering the circumstances. I don’t remember any big sacks coming off their side, but Pashos will be an upgrade and I agree that it should allow us to use Moore more.
played fairly well
I’d say this is a bit of a stretch. Pashos may be injury prone but as long as he can stay healthy (granted, a big question mark) I expect his return to be a HUGE upgrade over those two guys.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 30, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure he is a huge upgrade, I was just actually surprised the other two weren’t the second coming of John St. Turnstile.
by HenryDawg on Sep 30, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
John St. Turnstile
Just the mention of him makes me shudder.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 30, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
/rocking back and forth in the corner of the room
by chitown browns fan on Sep 30, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I read this 4 times and kept wondering why you were putting your religion out there.
by chitown browns fan on Sep 30, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I really hope Tony stays on the field and proves me wrong on my prediction that we’ll be lucky to get a full game out of him this season.
He sure looked like a guy that can get the job done in both the running and passing games during the preseason. Now we need him to settle down the right side and play his position with durability so we can focus on improving other areas of the offense.
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In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Sep 30, 2011 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
RE: Offensive Line
It should be a great help to get Pashos back in the lineup. As you said, it would free up the TE position on that side and allow the Browns to get Evan Moore back in for more snaps. I think the Browns feel that Pinkston will be able to develop into a quality starting LG. Joe Thomas has praised the guy, so why yank him and put in an old guy who was cut by Washington? If this line develops and Hardesty ends up working effectively in tandem with Hillis in the backfield, it will be VERY interesting to watch this team attack Pittsburgh’s aging defense in December and on Jan 1st.
Offensive lineman are supposed to be known for thier toughness. I’d love to know what Pashos injury actually is. Tony Romo plays with broken ribs and a punctured lung, Marques Colston is coming back 2 weeks after breaking his collar bone, Ray Lewis played two games with a broken wrist one year, and I could go on and on. This guy has an ankle issue and is out for what – 6 weeks now?
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
I don’t know – I’d speculate that an ankle injury on a 325 tackle might be more difficult to overcome than other types of injuries to the upper body that can be alleviated with pain killers. At 325 lbs. he’s putting a ton of torque on that ankle with every single play trying to keep 300 lb. DTs and DLs out of the backfield.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 30, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not defending Pashos in general though – because I do think his proneness to injury is and will continue to be a major problem for our line.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 30, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen how huge of a person Pashos is? That’s a lot of weight to push off of a bad ankle. He’s obviously not the most durable guy out there, but I don’t question his toughness.
by Legoman0721 on Sep 30, 2011 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Burntorangeandbrown said it better than I could. I agree completely.
by Legoman0721 on Sep 30, 2011 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup, and also Romo and Colston don’t have guys bullrushing them just about every single play. And I am not questioning Romo or Colston’s toughness, but O-linemen take a beating every single down.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 30, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can’t move, you can’t protect your QB.
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We are easily in the bottom half of the league of injuries though. Are we getting better?
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As in we have more injuries than the average team? I don’t know about that, Steinbach is out but I thought everyone else was healthy.
If Pashos couldn’t move well enough to protect Colt, he wouldn’t have been an upgrade. Toughness is playing when you are able to help your team. If Tony wasn’t able to do that, why play him? Put the best guy(s) on the field, even if they are Cousins and Hicks.
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Also I believe the injury to pashos is a high ankle sprain, which is the ligament that holds the lower portions of your tibia/fibula together. So every time he takes a step he essentially re-injures it because those 2 bones just split over the rest of the ankle (talus really). So I basically echo what others say that you cant just inject it and to to keep it not moving, its a joint thats essential for any football player to move effectively.

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