Browns' Depth Chart Against Bengals Maintains Preseason Form

by Chris Pokorny on Sep 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

If there are going to be any changes to the starting lineup against the Cincinnati Bengals, Pat Shurmur isn't giving them away just yet. In the team's first depth chart of the regular season, pretty much everyone fell in place with expectations.

OFFENSE

QB: Colt McCoy, Seneca Wallace, Thaddeus Lewis
RB: Peyton Hillis, Montario Hardesty, Armond Smith
FB: Owen Marecic
WR1: Brian Robiskie, Greg Little, Carlton Mitchell
WR2: Mohamed Massaquoi, Joshua Cribbs, Jordan Norwood
TE: Benjamin Watson, Evan Moore, Alex Smith, Jordan Norwood
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Jason Pinkston, Artis Hicks
C: Alex Mack, Steve Vallos
RG: Shawn Lauvao, John Greco
RT: Tony Pashos, Oniel Cousins

DEFENSE

LDE: Jayme Mitchell, Emmanuel Stephens
DT: Phil Taylor, Scott Paxson
DT: Ahtyba Rubin, Brian Schaefering
RDE: Jabaal Sheard, Marcus Benard
SLB: Scott Fujita, Quinton Spears
MLB: D'Qwell Jackson, Titus Brown
WLB: Chris Gocong, Kaluka Maiava
LCB: Joe Haden, Buster Skrine
FS: Mike Adams, Usama Young
SS: T.J. Ward, Ray Ventrone, Eric Hagg
RCB: Sheldon Brown, Dimitri Patterson, James Dockery

SPECIAL TEAMS

P/H: Richmond McGee
K: Phil Dawson
LS: Ryan Pontbriand
KR: Joshua Cribbs, Buster Skrine, James Dockery, Armond Smith
PR: Joshua Cribbs, Jordan Norwood, James Dockery, Armond Smith

There are a few things worth noting at the receiver position, tight end position, left guard position, and free safety position. At receiver, Norwood is listed as the fifth receiver. At tight end, Smith is the third tight end over the rookie Cameron. At left guard, Pinkston is ahead of Hicks...for now. Lastly, at safety, Adams is listed ahead of Young. That might not seem significant, but when you consider that an injured Gocong is ahead of Maiava but a somewhat healthy Young is not ahead of Adams, it could tell the story of who the starter is.

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QB: Colt McCoy, Seneca Wallace, Thaddeus Lewis
RB: Peyton Hillis, Montario Hardesty, Armond Smith
WR1: Brian Robiskie, Greg Little, Carlton Mitchell
WR2: Mohamed Massaquoi, Joshua Cribbs, Jordan Norwood
TE: Benjamin Watson, Evan Moore, Alex Smith, Jordan Norwood
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Jason Pinkston, Artis Hicks
C: Alex Mack, Steve Vallos
RG: Shawn Lauvao, John Greco
RT: Tony Pashos, Oniel Cousins

I think its pretty obvious at which position this team has the strongest depth.

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 6, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions

I like the omission of the fullback position to help strengthen your case.

I had thought the same thing when I saw nobody listed after Thomas.

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by Chris Pokorny on Sep 6, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

it needed to be omitted, lest the thread devolve into an argument about vickers/marecic

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 6, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I never really saw that as an argument, rather a realization and those it hadn’t occurred to yet for whatever reason.
All the FB play we saw spoke for itself.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 7, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions

We saw like ten running plays where the fullback was used.

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by notthatnoise on Sep 7, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions

There is someone after Thomas – you rightfully omitted him as it would be redundant.
I believe this illustrates the Browns offense both from a depth standpoint as well as tactical standpoint.

                                                    Mohamed Massaquoi, Joshua Cribbs, Jordan Norwood
                                          Brian Robiskie, Greg Little, Carlton Mitchell
                                 Tony Pashos, Oniel Cousins
                         Shawn Lauvao, John Greco
            Alex Mack, Steve Vallos
Joe Thomas, Joe Thomas
            Jason Pinkston, Artis Hicks
                          Colt McCoy, Seneca Wallace, Thaddeus Lewis
                                   Peyton Hillis, Montario Hardesty, Armond Smith
                                            Owen Marecic
                                                     Benjamin Watson, Evan Moore, Alex Smith, Jordan Cameron

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 7, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Browns in XML format?

by HenryDawg on Sep 7, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

This is XJTML normalized form. If JT isn’t the anchor element the structure is invalid.
(with XJTML the root is referred to as the “anchor”).

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 7, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually this is more along the lines of what I had in mind when I posted this (with JT leading the way…)

Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.

by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 7, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions

This comment looks pretty f’d up on my phone.

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by Simmsinns on Sep 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Massaquoi is ready to start?

Beast Sandro

by johnf34 on Sep 6, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions

Lastly, at safety, Adams is listed ahead of Young. That might not seem significant, but when you consider that an injured Gocong is ahead of Maiava but a somewhat healthy Young is not ahead of Adams, it could tell the story of who the starter is.

Adams threw a bitch fit when Usama came back.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 6, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions

Is that just speculation?

by BornAKardiacKid on Sep 6, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions

No, the Beacon had an article on it. He was pissed when Usama came back and he thought he was losing his job. So he whined like a little bitch.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 6, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Did not know that, I thought Mangini got rid of all the divas, so I’m a little surprised. Hopefully that doesn’t start a trend in the locker room.

by BornAKardiacKid on Sep 6, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s not really accurate at all.

by HenryDawg on Sep 7, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions

I may have over exaggerated but it’s pretty accurate.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 7, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions

I am surprised Cribbs isn’t a starter even though I know he’ll get a lot of playing time anyway. Tony Pashos has to stay healthy. I would be worried about our pass rush but we never have one anyway so it can’t be worse.

by HenryDawg on Sep 6, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

We’ve had a decent-to-good pass rush the past two seasons. I believe we were top 5 in sacks two years ago.

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by notthatnoise on Sep 7, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

25th last year
8th 2 years ago (the Pittsburgh game was like 8 of them, which was awesome, but not necessarily consistent).

by HenryDawg on Sep 7, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=SACKS&season=2010&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

by HenryDawg on Sep 7, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Sacks ≠ Pass rush

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by rufio on Sep 7, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I still can’t believe with the players that were available at FS that we are going into week 1 with Mike Adams as our starter. I know a lot of people shy away from FA but again, Mike Adams is starting. Maybe The Joe Thomas will grace our D with his presence.

by darthVictor13 on Sep 6, 2011 7:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

TE: Benjamin Watson, Evan Moore, Alex Smith, Jordan Norwood

jordan cameron not jordan norwood right?

by youngergenerationbrownsfan on Sep 6, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions

Norwood bulked up a lot this preseason.

Even Doug Dieken admits Joe Thomas is the real #73

by Doc's Kid on Sep 6, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m surprised that MoMass was given the starting nod.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 6, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions

Hasn’t Shurmur more or less said that he plans to use everybody? For that reason, especially at the WR position, I don’t think it matters much who gets the start so long as our opening possession results in 6 points.

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on Sep 6, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions

results in 6 points for our side.

fixed

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on Sep 6, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

Earlier today I was thinking that it might work (for while) if we rotated certain WRs in to run certain patterns and then surprised the D by having, say Cribbs run the pattern in the second half that they were used to seeing Norwood run in the first. I’m not sure how clever that would actually be since at some level the D is covering the position regardless of who is there, but it seems that teams probably do game plan for specific players.

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by JustBob on Sep 6, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions

If certain guys only ran certain routes, NFL coaches would notice relatively quickly.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Sep 7, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Holy sacks Batman, Jayme Mitchell is starting. I need to give this guy a nickname. Anyone have a picture of him standing next to Seneca Wallace.

Mangini apologist by default.

by Villeslgr on Sep 6, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions

Shouldn’t be to hard to find such a photo from the preseason. Just look for a scene where Mitchell is on the sideline behind the LoS.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill

by JustBob on Sep 6, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs

Touche and rec!

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra

by JustPlainBrowns on Sep 6, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, I see how it is. I get the word, but no real action.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill

by JustBob on Sep 6, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs

when its all said and done, this looks like a pretty solid roster although we do lack depth.

by CavsBrownsFan on Sep 6, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions

I know, we should be true to Colt McCoy, but mine goes:
QB Thaddeus Lewis
RB Owen Marecic…Tyler Clutts
RB Peyton Hillis
OT Joe Thomas/Phil Trautwein
OG Oniel Cousins
C Alex Mack
OG Shaun Lauvao
OT Tony Pashos/Jason Pinkston
TE Evan Moore/Jordan Cameron
WR1 Mohamed Massaquoi
WR 2 Joshua Cribbs
WR 3 Greg Little

DE Jabaal Sheard
DT Phil Taylor
DT Ahtyba Rubin
DE Scott Paxson
LB Quinton Spears
LB Kaluka Maiava
LB D´Quell Jackson
DB Buster Skrine
DB Joe Haden
DB Eric Hagg
DB T.J. Ward
…it´s a long season, but seeing as none of us got the line-up we might have wished for, we might as well utilize the man power.

by mooncamping on Sep 7, 2011 3:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs