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Fantasy Football Feature – Wk. 1

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This is sort of just a fantasy football mash-up open thread for at least this week. Considering we haven’t had any actual fantasy scoring yet, there isn’t exactly a lot to talk about. Luckily, that’s all about to change tonight. Feel free to throw out any sit/start troubles your having, or any other fantasy football related questions, thoughts, ideas you might have or even live trade negotiation. 

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A couple big questions:

 

Is Peyton Manning going to start?

Because of this glaring issue, we’re definitely not completely void of fantasy talk. The simple answer is no, he’s not starting for at least Week 1, unless Jim Irsay and co. are running the biggest misinformation campaign in the modern day NFL. If you have Peyton Manning, you absolutely need to bench him this week. And if what I’m hearing turns out to be true, he very well may not be ready by the time the Browns come around in Week 2 as well. This is why getting a hold of a solid fantasy back-up quarterback is pretty important. It’s the highest scoring fantasy position, and your go to guy isn’t going to be out at least for one week (his bye). Considering injuries like this situation happen all the time in football, you’ve got to have a back-up plan. And generally, the waiver wire is full of shots in the dark this early.

 

How healthy is Arian Foster, and how much action will he see Sunday?

In the fantasy football world, this question is even bigger than the last one. This guy needs to carry teams in any normal league with more than 6 teams. A lot of people completely avoided him because of the uncertainties regarding this hamstring injury. The news hasn’t been getting any better since fantasy drafts started taken place several weeks back. This goes to show the advantage in waiting until later to hold those drafts. I think if all drafts we’re held this morning, we’d see quite a hit in Foster’s average draft position, and rightfully so. You want to get as much out of your RBs in fantasy football as possible. It’s easily the most valuable position in the game. Foster has this to say, “You can’t really expect anything with hamstrings, just taking it day by day. It’s frustrating, but injuries are part of the game. You can’t escape them, if you play this game for a long time. You just have to maintain them, and take care of them when they happen.” Houston head coach Gary Kubiak really makes it sound like it’s going to be a game day decision. Which is probably even more frustrating for fantasy owners, that are going to have to wait till Sunday morning to make that sit/start call, rather than having a definitive answer now.

 

Good luck all, and welcome to the 2011 NFL regular season! It’s only a matter of hours before the wait is finally over. 

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Did my other fantasy draft last night on ESPN. I accidentally drafted Shonn Greene again. The man is a damn curse.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Shonn Greene is a guy I see as vastly overrated. I don’t blame for not being happy about getting stuck with him.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you. ESPN and Yahoo both froze when autopick landed on Shonn Greene in basically the second round in both leagues. Cursed.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes, in the second?

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Sep 8, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

no offense, but you should have noticed that when/if you pre-ranked your players.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t bother with that crap. It wasn’t my fault when yahoo drops me and it passes my turn before I reload

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

um…. okay. fail to plan……………

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m starting the Browns defense against Cincinatti over the Jets defense over Dallas. Crazy brilliant, or suicide?

Only thing manlier than football? Ponies.

by BrownDawg1409 on Sep 8, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Pony logic. Gah.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

suicide please.

Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.

by pwndabear on Sep 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what, at first glance it looks absolutely nuts. But if you’re right, you’ll look like a genius.
I like the call in that sense, but wouldn’t do it myself.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Start a good secondary against a rookie QB and receiver.

by HenryDawg on Sep 8, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Valid point. It’s not entirely crazy.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jets’ D is great, but Dallas is a decent team.
I’d call it a crapshoot, with a slight edge to CLE.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If Romo’s injury slid him back into his old ways, that’s a fantasy football dream for the Jet’s D. INTs

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

dallas will have a good offense.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 8, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok heres an open question. Im in a 20 team league, and unfortunately got stuck with pick #20. To save a sad story, I am 1 of at least 8 teams to only have 1 starting rb. Who would you target as the top back-up rb in the league, or an under-the-radar type guy to start?

by -bobby- on Sep 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Top 11 per BleacherReport Power Rankings:
Daniel Thomas
Mike Tolbert
Jonathan Stewart
Willis McGahee
Pierre Thomas
James Starks
Brandon Jacobs
Michael Bush
Thomas Jones
LaDainian Thomlinson
Danny Woodhead.

There are more but i assume you wont need to get that deep. I also chose 11 because i personally think woodhead is a really great backup.

Smile big, hug bigger. Talk big, act bigger. Stop judging do something, shut the fck up do something.

by pwndabear on Sep 8, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do have some “depth” at QB…. I mean I have 3 starters that is to say. Dropped one of my low guys to get McCown, and then I have Cassel and Brady, so I am trying to finagle a trade with McCown or Cassel. My RBs as standing now are Blount, Ronnie Brown, Chester Taylor (hoping he gets RS carries for Beanie), and CJ Spiller. The really only notable FA is Cadillac Williams who is back-up to Jackson in St Louis.

by -bobby- on Sep 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is a God Awful RB set.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, comes the problems with a 20 team league eh? Blount will be solid, but after that its a crap shoot.

by -bobby- on Sep 8, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, comes the problems with a 20 team league eh?

Exactly. I’ve never played in one first hand, but I lived with my brother last season, and he’d talk about his all the time. 20 guys, and $20 buy-in, winner take all.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

$400. Gahhhh.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of the Leagues I’m in is a 12 team – $50 entry fee and $5 per transaction made during the year. Transaction money goes in the pot for the winners. Top4 get paid. The year I won the Super Bowl I got almost $1200.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Sep 8, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s actually a really neat idea. Especially considering how much “transactions” help teams throughout the season. I’ve been saying for while now, championships are won and lost on the waiver wire.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like how I picked up Bradford free of charge and swindled WV for Vernon Davis? Granted I didn’t win but made a killing in that trade.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

paying per transaction sure changes things.

sorta makes it a whole new ballgame, if not an uneven playing field, imo.

what happens if two guys in your league both want a player off of waivers?

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waiver order decides. The guy who doesn’t have priority wouldn’t have to pay.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing I would hate about that is draft position really can make a difference in these leagues. By the time I drafted at 20, 11 RBs, 5 WRs and 3 QBs were gone. I went with Brady/Blount because I wanted a top 5 QB and Blount was the best RB IMO on the board. 13 RBs went off the board between my 2nd and 3rd picks leaving something around 7 starters, pending position battles and injuries (Draft was in between preseason weeks 3-4). But point is, I dont know that I would trust 20$ in a league where I could be stuck in that position.

by -bobby- on Sep 8, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

All things considered, I’d say Brady/Blount isn’t all that bad a place to be.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah dude, that’s terrific. You should be stoked.

better tap that waiver wire like made, though.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, Green-Ellis of NE would have been an amazing pick up.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

O, Im happy I got them. I kind of regret my next 2 picks (Holmes/Colston) just because getting one of the last starting RBs would probably be better then the next WR I could have gotten outside of Colston. I did just pick up Larry Johnson since he just got picked up to back-up reggie in miami, and I dont remember the last time he stayed healthy.

by -bobby- on Sep 8, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Santonio is a solid pick. Colston is “meh”. I’d trade his name for someone more consistent (even a berrian or…that redskins wr).

your team sounds good, considering the league depth.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may be able to get more out of one of those QBs if you wait for them to be legit fantasy players, and other teams get desperate. That does run the risk of going the other direction though.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That could work. Right now I have been trying to go after some of the “less sought after but still NFL starter” type players. Someone that has a few question marks but can still get 8 or so points a week.

by -bobby- on Sep 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude. I’d stake my fantasy life on Bradford and Freeman alone….late round steals.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

why do you have so many QBs? do you have to start 2 in this league? I did one and didn’t realize until halfway through the draft that I had to start 2 QBs and it was a 20 team league

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’ve played a league for multiple years that starts 2 qbs. I enjoy it much better than starting one.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just picked up McCown to allow me to trade him or Cassel.

by -bobby- on Sep 8, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

……………………………………………………………

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

A starter is a starter… and when now 9+ teams only have 1 it only takes an injury to do something drastic.

by -bobby- on Sep 9, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing this guy is already gone, but Ben Tate is a must have back-up in a 20-man league. The guy could have a huge season if Foster aggravates his hamstring and misses a ton of games. Mike Tolbert is another guy to look at. This might be a long shot, but in a league with 20 teams, there isn’t a lot of options, if Beanie Wells still available he is worth a look. Some other guys are James Starks, Micheal Bush, maybe even Jerome Harrison. Hell, I took a flier on Danny Woodhead in the Unofficial League (12-man).

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Derrick Ward isn’t a bad gamble either.

Knowing Kubiak, he will probably go with Ward over Tate at the last second.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the big 20-man leagues, I’d agree. But I think Tate is a much better bet in the average 8-10 man leagues.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

beanie will get the load in Arizona.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 8, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ve been saying that for 2 years. He needs to prove something.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep. there is a reason I preferred Ryan Williams over him

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tolbert. Legarret BLount. Remember to stock up on other positions for trade bait. Someone else is going to have areas of need in your league.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Blount could prove to be really good for TB. The only thing, I would guess that he’s already taken in a 20-man league, if not just because he’s there definite starter.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap, 20 teams!

Mangini apologist by default.

by Villeslgr on Sep 8, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Owen Daniels a good TE? Should I start Evan Moore instead?

by crazyL80 on Sep 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I took Owen as my first TE. As Schaub’s escape value, he’s just too lucrative to not draft.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a good question. With Schuab a lot of people have been waiting for Daniels to become a fantasy threat. But injuries have caused him to regress. Moore has got a lot to prove though. For now, I’d start Daniels, but Moore is worth holding on to.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would balls up and start Moore. Maybe more red zone targets. Daniels has seen his day. Solid name, but not overwhelmingly productive.

I’d keep ’em both and trade one if/when they get hot.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a strange draft in my Money league. 10 Teams, I picked 4th. 1st Pick – I went with Foster. 2nd round, MJD fell all the way back to me. 3rd round – Grabbed McFadden. Was not planning on going RB, RB, RB… but the value was there (3 or 4 Qbs went in the 1st and 2nd round). Still ended up with Matt Ryan, and Joe Flacco as my QBs.. and just grabbed a handful of WRs to play with.

Take Care,
Bink

by BinkDeBook on Sep 8, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice! Is it the standard 2 starting RBs or is there a flex option? Either way, I’d say good picks, especially knowing you still got a solid QB in Matt Ryan.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-2 RBs, 2-3 WR/TE. And its best player i.e. don’t declare your starters, and your best players get pulled over each week. Meaning that by just picking up a large group of WR/TEs hopefully 2-3 of them step up each week, to go with 1-2 of the RBs stepping up.

Take Care,
Bink

by BinkDeBook on Sep 8, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting set up. I’ve never played a league like that. Personally, I see some of the skill / luck taken out by not having to make the sit/start calls, which I always saw as a huge part of fantasy football. But it would also change the way you draft, I think. Your picks are made even better in that league. Good calls.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

My ESPN league basically starts everyone. 5 WR starts, 2 QB starts, 3 RB starts, 2 Flex starts… it’s ridiculous.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess would be the key to winning something like that is player hoarding.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah in this league, if you have a good and lucky draft you win. Last year I picked McFadden with the last pick of the draft :) And he was one of the pieces that helped me win it all (Vick, being the other, since its team QB)

Take Care,
Bink

by BinkDeBook on Sep 8, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife has a fantasy team with other science teachers at her school and they did a stupid Autodraft which game her both NE tight ends — Hernandez and Gronkowski. Which one of them should I start this week? They both seem to receive about equal number of throws last year. Evan Moore is available, however, so I’m going to try to pick him up when the waiver period ends, but if I do then I don’t know which Patriot TE to drop. Or should I just keep both and hope that one of them starts being more productive than the other?

by Buckeye Brad on Sep 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I would risk it and wait a couple weeks to see if one emerges as the favorite.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Outmof the two I drafted Gronkoski but only because I confused him with Hernandez. I feel like Hernandy gets more Red Zone attempts.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hernandez lead the Pats in receptions during the preseason.

They really like flexing him out as a WR. But you never know with Bill.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with NTN, I’d wait it out before going for Moore. That particular TE situation was one of the toughest and weirdest fantasy wise last season (I had owned them both at one point too). Yahoo! lists Gronkowski ahead of Hern. But that’s hardly definitive.

It seems most people are picking Hern, for those red zone targets, as SB mentions. With 2nd tier fantasy TEs, touchdowns can make or break it.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s a crapshoot.

those 50-50’s will kill you. you’re bound to pick the wrong one each week.

drop em or trade em. Pick up Moore or a more consistent TE from a different team (where did Zack Miller from the raiders land? GREG OLSEN… was vastly underutilized in CHI

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it painfully ironic that I was the guy who said I would take AP of Foster, got stuck with Foster in an auto-draft, and now have to deal with that injury.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

He said he’s playing Sunday.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been speaking as highly of Foster as anyone, and saw him slip to me at 3rd overall in my $$ league draft about 3 weeks ago. I’m kind of wishing I had taken Charles or CJ.

I need to shake that idea out of my head. He’ll be worth it! Just got a wait this minor little hamstring thing out.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No he won’t. Let’s be real bro.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you guys trade Kenny Britt and Ryan Grant for Frank Gore or Legarrette Blount?

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Sep 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

i would trade britt and grant for Blount straight up.

maybe for Gore.

either way, i’d ask for a similar-or low tier WR just for kicks to make it entirely even.
(like a Britt, Jerricho cotchery, Danny Amendola, etc.)

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If your asking the giving-up-Gore end of this deal to add another WR too, they’d be crazy to take that trade.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I’m saying. My friend has been sending me awful trades for Kenny Britt so I know he wants him, and he’s said before that both Blount and Gore are on the trading block, so I figure Britt/Grant for either of those RBs straight will be good for me because theyll be behind Peyton Hillis and Arian Foster.

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Sep 8, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny Britt and Ryan Grant for Frank Gore

Who ever is getting Frank Gore in this trade is the winner. If I was on the side giving up Gore in this deal, I’d so say no.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Ryan Grant should disappear this season.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i still prefer Blount to Gore.

get all you can out of this trade.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer Blount to Gore as well, I think Blount is going to do dirty things this season.

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Sep 8, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a lot more risky, what do your WR options look like right now?

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this trade goes through I’ll have:

QB: Matt Schaub
RB: Arian Foster
RB: Peyton Hillis
RB/WR: Legarrette Blount
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Brandon Loyd
TE: Benjamin Watson
D/ST: NYJ
K: Phil Dawson

My bench is weak though. I had Britt in the flex spot with Grant on the Bench with Mike Tolbert and then at WR Steve Smith, Donald Driver, and Danny Amendola (I think he might wake up this year).

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Sep 8, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

and thats a 12 man buy-in league.

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Sep 8, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s ILL. Britt is weak sauce. I would do it in a heatbeat if Blount is your THIRD rb. sick.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about this: Would you rather trade Britt and Grant for Gore/Blount OR Britt for Ingram striahgt up?

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Sep 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the surest thing of the options there are Britt and Grant for Gore.

That’s a steal for who ever is getting Gore.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

and by that he means Blount.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton Manning had another neck surgery today according to Mort.

A) there is no way he plays against us.
B) I think there is a real chance he is done for good, and I don’t mean this season.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

B) I think there is a real chance he is done for good, and I don’t mean this season.

If that happens, I’ll be pretty upset. My back-up plan is someone I have no faith in, Kevin Kolb. I only took Kolb because I have Larry Fitz, so I’ll score both ways.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That and Flacco, ewww.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vertabrae fusion in the neck and he had weakness in his throwing arm. Does not sound good, but they are saying the chances are about equal right now that it could extend or end his career. 3 months recovery time.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Sep 8, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t this the same condition that ended his brothers career?

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

His brother did have some time of career ending back injury, yes.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

see my ballsy prediciton sure to go wrong.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope not and it’s pretty sad if it is. I think it’s just a year out on IR though.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This would make me really sad.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you had drafted him or because Peyton is a player who doesn’t deserve to go out like that?

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

For me, it’s because I drafted him.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

For me it’s because I love watching Peyton Manning play football. However he ends up leaving the game, it will be a sad day for football.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, then agreed. Although it will make pre-snaps against the Colts on madden so much more quicker.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100%.

I think he is the greatest Quarterback to ever play the game. Everything around him changed throughout his career (RB’s, WR’s, Coaches, etc.) and he continued to thrive.

It would be a shame if he went out like this, because I still think he is capable of winning football games.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And also, the Colts are out a crap ton of money if he leaves. But seriously, I do not want to see Manning leave like this. If he does, I hope he comes back as a great coach.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Montana disagrees.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol Montana is not the greast QB ever. He’s pushing the Top 5 though.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, it’s definitely Joe Montana.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree, but at least you didn’t say Tom Brady.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Sep 8, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom Brady makes the top 10.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton Manning would break the top 10 too.
I don’t hate Payton Manning.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a problem with that.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Sep 9, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

where’s the love for Otto Graham?

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 8, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that Otto Graham was a great QB, but take him in his prime against Manning in his prime and Manning wins by 4+ TD’s.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

possibly, but its extremely hard to compare QBs across 50+ years, especially since the rules are extremely different.

I think manning is one of the best QBs of all time and possibly the best, but if he is the best than Otto is 2nd in my mind.

Also, was replying to simms who was touting montana when if you want a “winner” you gotta go with Otto

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 8, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

apples and oranges.

"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"

by troy145 on Sep 9, 2011 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Joe Montana.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 10, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t know Joe Montana, outside of him being the best quarterback ever.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a jerk.

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 10, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t blame him for that. I don’t know how I missed that awesome story the first time around though.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

being the best is debatable. If you are talking pure #s? he is up there but its marino. If you are talking about their on the field ability to be a field general, dissect a D and make line calls its Peyton manning. If you are talking pure “winners”, its gotta be Otto Graham. one of the best, but I don’t think he is first in any area (though is probably top 2-3 in all aspects

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 11, 2011 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Montana is second on the list.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 8, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt McCoy said he would like to have a chat with you about this in a few years ;)

by shep615 on Sep 9, 2011 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This, absolutely.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 10, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

My fantasy team kind of sucks.

by emily522 on Sep 8, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

What do you guys think? (12 team 2 QB standard scoring)

QB Michael Vick
WR Mike Wallace
WR Brandon Llyod
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
RB Felix Jones
TE Jermichael Finley
WR/TE Mike Thomas
Flex Kyle Orton
K Akex Henery
DEF Chicago

BN Lee Evans
BN Vince Young
BN Antonio Brown
BN Lance Kendricks
BN Ryan Mathews
BN Kerry Collins

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 8, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Average.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 8, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you mean like ‘average’ average or ‘outstanding’ average?

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 9, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m not familiar with the average 2nd QBs in the 2-QB leagues as I’ve never played in one. But by the looks of it, for a 12 man league, that line-up is pretty solid!

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ilike Lee Evans more then Thomas. Esp with who is throwing the ball to both of those guys.

by -bobby- on Sep 9, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

My brother is unfortunate enough to live in Ratbird territory… Says Lee Evans has had an amazing preseason and people are really excited about him.

by shep615 on Sep 9, 2011 10:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah…I got tough matchups this week on alot of guys…Jones is facing the Jets, and Evans is going up against Pitt. so Im going to probably ride with thomas and ryan matthews against MINN this week.

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 9, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s my other team, 10 man league:

Aaron Rodgers
Steven Jackson
Darren McFadden
Vincent Jackson
Mario Manningham
Brandon Marshall
Owen Daniels
Bears D
Billy Cundiff

Bench:
BenJarvus Green-Ellis
Joe Flacco
Joseph Addai
Mike Thomas
Greg Olsen
Jacoby Ford

by emily522 on Sep 8, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

get hillis.

"You are the worst villains in football, your evil plan never ceases."-Mooncamping

by discoinferno083 on Sep 8, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hillis would be drafted.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 8, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very nice team. I would like to buy it dinner and then go for the ‘dry hump’ in the backseat of my truck with it.

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 9, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

…and then go for the ‘dry hump’ in the backseat of my truck.

Wussy

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 10, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, it’s a very ‘respectable’ team.

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 10, 2011 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I laughed. rec

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 10, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must be a generation gap.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is my two teams
Team 1(8 team)______Team 2 (14)
Romo_____________Freeman
White______________Holmes
Nicks______________Maclin
Charles____________Charles
MJD_______________Steven Jackson
O. Daniels__________O. Daniels
Moreno_____________Bradshaw
Rackers____________Folk
Jets_______________Dallas
                  Bench
Best_______________Stewart
Delone Carter________Delone Carter
Maclin______________Floyd
Britt________________Moore
Manningham________E. Sanders
Bradford____________Berrian
J. Graham__________R. Fitzpatrick
                                         T. Choice
                                         E. Moore

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 8, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

8-team PPR league. My 4 running backs are Charles, Hillis, Mendenhall and Blount. (It’s a start 2 qb league and when qbs started flying off the board I decided to load up at RB – my #1 QB is Bradford – ack).

Can start 3 (2 RB + flex). Am I crazy for considering benching Mendenhall v Ravens?

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Sep 9, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s an amazing RB situation,especially for PPR. But ouch, Bradford as your first QB. Who’s your second?

Personally, I’d try to get as much out of that top heavy RB core and start Mendenhall.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 9, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quartbacks 2 & 3 are Orton and Fitzgerald. Part of it is that I think Blount is going to have a monster year, but I think Mendenhall is not going to be able to put up great #s v the Ravens. The Steelers are really a pass first team anyway, and have been for some time.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Sep 9, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t buy the whole ‘now that fox is in charge orton is gonna suck attitude.’ For a good portion of last year he put up excellent numbers. I think rumors of his demise are premature.

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 10, 2011 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not as low on Orton as some, either, but that doesn’t change the fact that in an 8-team league, I have three #2 quarterbacks and no #1. I hope that my running backs can make up the difference.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Sep 10, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah thats tough…you gotta grab those qbs early. I like 2 QB leagues alot though. Makes things very interesting.

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 10, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

While making leagues interesting can be really fun. I’ve spent the past few years trying to balance my money league as much as possible, trying to create as level a playing field as possible. Sort of taking the luck of the draw out, and relying on a more week-by-week effort making the calls, working the waiver wire, setting up a team for a playoff run.

I do want to try some of the interesting league settings sometime, though, wouldn’t want money riding on it.
The thing is, I find a sort of comfort level with managing 2 leagues. I’ve tried 4+ in the past, and it’s just not preferable for me.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year I was in the same predicament as you and got on just fine with Matt Ryan and Freeman (this was before they were rated as high, obviously)

by johnnyphoenix on Sep 10, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drafted Reggie Wayne with my 2nd round pick. Should I sit him, or do you think he can put up decent numbers with Collins at QB?

My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.

by Brownie's Year on Sep 9, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

This can only be answered by knowing what your other options are.

@grantgw - sports and Cleveland and Columbus stuff

by woodsmeister on Sep 9, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 league keeper money league PPR
Romo
CJ2K
Adrian Peterson
Beanie Wells (Flex)
Vincent Jackson
DeSean Jackson
Jimmy Graham
Bench is weak and thin
Berrian
Daniel Thomas
Lance Kendicks
Meachum
Ricky Williams
Breaston
 Have to start two defenses
Baltimore, Jets, Rams and Browns

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

That running back situation sure is enviable.

I would start the Jets and Browns. I know the Ravens have the better D, but Pitt’s offense is miles ahead of Cincinnati.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Sep 10, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s interesting to see some of these wacky settings. I’m always curious as to how and why the commissioners come up with them.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am really interested to see how Lance Kendricks does.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 10, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drafted P. Manning in 2 Yahoo leagues. Stupid me. I’m rooted.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rooted

I'm entitled to my opinion. Especially if I'm wrong.

by Aussie Brown on Sep 10, 2011 2:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Guys I trust most of your advice. This is a serious matter. Should I start Knowshon Moreno or Jahvid Best?

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 10, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s what this thread is for!

My vote is Jahvid Best.
I think he’ll get more carries (and as a result, more overall production) than Moreno.
McGahee has that nasty habit of taking goalline carries which is like fantasy football cancer for backs in Moreno’s position.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, I just realized I have the exact same situation, Best and Moreno on my money league team. I had Moreno starting, and just swapped them 30 seconds ago.

On second thought, I’ll bench Kenny Brit (W/R/T flex) and start three RBs (LeSean McCoy, Best, Moreno), assuming Foster will not go Sunday. If Foster ends up going, I’ll swap out Moreno quickly.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kenny Brit has the better match up though, my head tells me to start as many backs as possible…

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 10, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Moreno over Britt. Britt could easily be the 40th best WR this year. He could also be the 5th. If he breaks out great but until then proceed with caution. (I have him in his same league also and wouldn’t start over either.)

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 11, 2011 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

This read wasn’t encouraging this morning:

Offensive coordinator Mike McCoy says the Broncos will use an even timeshare in the backfield that could become a hot-hand situation if Knowshon Moreno or Willis McGahee plays well early in the game.
The Denver Post refers to the situation as “troubling news to fantasy football players everywhere.” Said McCoy, “If someone is in there playing and they’re on a roll, then they’re going to stay in. When they need to come out, then they’re going to come out. … We’re going to roll them.” The good news for Moreno is that he’s a much more effective runner than McGahee. Particularly in PPR leagues, we’d lean toward starting Moreno as an RB2 against Oakland.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hadn’t heard that. I would go Britt then.

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 11, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay now this one Best or Jeremy Maclin?

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 11, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

As you can see I am loaded in this league. Britt is my 5th WR and Moreno or Best are my 4th RB.

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 11, 2011 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. I was leaning towards Best but wanted confirmation.

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 11, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yay! Glad I have Moreno!

by emily522 on Sep 11, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not very promising news regarding Foster:

* Arian Foster (hamstring) is officially a game-time decision. However, most observers have predicted that Foster will sit. Derrick Ward is the expected starter and figures to get more touches if he handles himself well early. Ben Tate will come on and projects as the more explosive runner.

via Rotoworld

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like Foster is officially out. No surprise there.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lucked out. I play Colt’s Cowboys today, and he has Foster.

by emily522 on Sep 11, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You deserve the win. No sympathy for owners that don’t pay attention.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The wai-a-ting is the hardest part.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The Official Game Thread is broken. :(

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly, Chris divided by zero and then ran out the door to go to the stadium.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Sep 11, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damnit, Chris.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 11, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

We can just make a fanpost.

by emily522 on Sep 11, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made a fanshot we can use until the Official one is working.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering if anyone else had an issue with it.

by emily522 on Sep 11, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed there was 1 comment. Not sure how that happened, because it’s still broken for most of us.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 11, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guys I put up a Game Thread because Chris’ isn’t working.

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 11, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Hernandez or Gronkowski?

Screw it, play them both!

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 12, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope Wes Welker gets caught in a house fire.

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 12, 2011 10:26 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

u mad, bro?

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good matchup for the first week. #1 and #2 in points scored for the first week.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Sep 13, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. You’ve got a hell of a team there. Tough loss.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 13, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

you got #2? Darn you!

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Sep 13, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Incredibly.

It’s like Wes Welker has a personal vendetta against me. I will have my revenge…

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Up by 25 with him going against me. I hate him.

"buuuuuuuh!"--- Mooncamping

by Vezoma on Sep 13, 2011 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes! Simms slipped by me in our first matchup with that late 99yd TD reception.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Sep 13, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you happy you lost?

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 13, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh nevermind. The Yes is for the death of Mr. Average unless he plays with Brady.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 13, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha.

"I want my unwarranted optimism back." -Dilbert

by Simmsinns on Sep 13, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haters bout to be potatin’ on this guy’s grammar.

Pittsburgh is just jealous. We got Cudi and they have Wiz.

by SpecialBrownie on Sep 13, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, the first TD score I only swore at my TV, the second I was screaming at it. I hate Welker. I was loving the passes to the TE’s and to Branch though.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Sep 13, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

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