RT Tony Pashos and OLB Chris Gocong Likely to Start Against Bengals
by Chris Pokorny on Sep 9, 2011 12:05 PM EDT
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PrintCleveland Browns starting right tackle Tony Pashos took off his walking boot on Thursday and was involved in portions of practice. According to head coach Pat Shurmur, barring a setback, Pashos will be starting this Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals. "If practice goes well and the reports are that he’ll be ready to go then absolutely he’ll be the starter."
The left guard situation also seems settled, at least for Week 1:
I don’t want to say definitively, but right now Jason Pinkston’s taking most of if not all of the reps there. The way we practice now, the one’s basically take all the reps when we’re working the Browns’ stuff and then really a lot of the reps that the backups get are when they’re working the cards against our defense and vice versa.
Seems pretty definitive to me: Pinkston will start.
Despite not seeing any action in the preseason due to injury, veteran linebacker Chris Gocong has been practicing and is expected to start in place of Kaluka Maiava. "I expect him to," said Shurmur in response to a question of whether Gocong would start or not. "He practiced yesterday and did well so he’ll be out there again today. That’s kind of the litmus test for guys being in the game."
There was one position that Shurmur remained non-committal with, and that is safety. Perhaps that has to do with the fuss that Mike Adams threw when asked if he felt he should start. When asked about the possibility of Young starting, Shurmur stated, "We haven’t determined that at this point." He did say that there is a chance we could see both guys in the game pretty often, so maybe there will be a rotation/evaluation process going on until a final decision for the rest of the season is made.
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He also mentioned that he liked some of the depth of the Linebackers with Maiava and Titus Brown. He also like what Skrine brings to CB.
this isn’t a big issue, but is Brown going to be active sunday? no mention of it and last I heard, he hadn’t practiced.
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
What is the deadline, if there is one, for putting him on the PUP list?
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You have to start training camp on the PUP list. This is why we didn’t put either Steinbach or BJax on it.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 9, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
From Wikipedia:
Physically Unable to Perform is the term for a rule in the National Football League which allows teams to designate players as “Physically Unable to Perform” or “PUP”. Once they are designated as such, they are prohibited from practicing with the team. They can, however, rehabilitate and participate in team meetings. If a player begins training camp on the PUP list, they can be moved to the active roster at any time, even after one practice. A player is not allowed to be placed on the PUP list if they start training camp on the active roster, even if they take part in only the first few minutes of the first practice.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 9, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially good news about Pashos. I’ve no idea what the Bengals Offense will be like but get the feeling the D has an extra week to get it’s house in order.
I take it Palmer has definitely retires and won’t be Favring sunday morning?
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Especially good news about Pashos
Definitely. Fantastic news. Just hope that foot doesn’t start “acting up”(?) again.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t help but feel that if we’re worried about what Carson Palmer, a mediocre QB, would do to our defense without any OTA’s or training camp…..then we’re in for an awfully long ride this season with our defense. (Which we probably are)
Absolute worst two QB’s we’ll all year on display the first two weeks, barring injuries to the other staffs.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
I disagree. Kerry Collins is probably better than the QB’s we’ll face on JAX & SEA and maybe OAK, SF and MIA too.
IMO Collins is pretty much washed up as an NFL QB and will be one of the worst QBs we face all year.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at Collins’ whole career though – he usually starts off really strong then tails off quickly. I think he’s going to be dangerous for a little while, at least till he burns out again.
I followed Collins pretty closely for a while with the Titans (remember I’m a Longhorns homer – was loosely following VY’s career in Tennessee so was pretty much in tune with their team, Collins, etc.).
I like Collins and he was REALLY good a few years ago. Hell of an arm. But I’ve watched him go downhill over the past few years and it hasn’t been pretty. He really isn’t very good any more. I just think every QB has an age when they start a rapid decline, and Collins reached his about two or three years ago. Maybe he’ll surprise and come out swinging, refreshed and determined to make one last stand. But I’ll be VERY surprised if he is anything close to “dangerous” when he plays this year.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
What you saw at Tennessee is the same curve he followed everywhere. Come in as a backup, play like a starter, the second he is a starter, its downhill. Don’t overlook them. They won’t be the Colts with Manning but he still has an arm, they have receivers and they’re at home. It will still be a tough game.
I expect all of our games to be tough games.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
a washed up veteran who is smart > Dalton/Alex Smith/Tavaris/mcdown
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
will be one of the worst QBs we face all year
I don’t necessarily disagree with you.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 10, 2011 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he will be still. Those are just the 4 that he is obviously better than without question. i think he very well may perform better than Hasselbeck, Henne, or Jason Campbell (the last 2 I think its pretty likely he outperforms this year). So far, thats 7 QBs and the browns face maybe 12? he is going to be right around the middle, but thats partly a testament to how bad of QBs we will play
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
he very well may perform better than Hasselbeck, Henne, or Jason Campbell
I’d be shocked. Obviously we disagree about Collins. I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
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by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, JAX and SF are not looking great at QB now.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
rec if you were using Luck as a proper noun
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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
It’s not as slick once you point it out.
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by rufio on Sep 10, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. Flag for ruining a clever pun.
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by Adrock2099 on Sep 10, 2011 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I hear you. I’m also concerned about all the hoopla and predictions by the media about how “the Browns are the up and comers and the Bengals don’t have a chance blah blah blah”. I think they’re going to come into town with a big chip on their shoulders.
I think we win, but not because we’re a vastly superior team. We’re a work in progress just like they are. McCoy will get pressured, but I think we’ll also get to Dalton and he won’t handle it well in his first rookie game. Ultimately we have the edge with a bit more offensive firepower, and they lose trying to run the ball without much success.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they do try to run it on us. Put eight in the box until Dalton figures it out and let’s get it on!
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice there is. -- Yogi Berra
by JustPlainBrowns on Sep 9, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Heres the thing though: I would put 8 in the box and run the most exotic blitzes we have if the season was only one game long. But if we can avoid putting all of that on film it would be great.
I am going with a heavy dose of man-free and 8 in the box. Lull everyone into thinking we’ll be vanilla all year.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I’m also concerned about all the hoopla and predictions by the media about how "the Browns are the up and comers and the Bengals don’t have a chance blah blah blah"
The media and fans can buy into it as much as we want, I don’t think the team is buying it.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I’m not worried about the Browns buying into it. I’m concerned about how many posters and articles are now lining the walls of the Bengals locker room.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Tony Grossi!
How can it be the battle of Ohio When the Bungles are from KENTUCKY?
by ctowndawgpound on Sep 10, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
their linebackers are great and their secondary and line are good too. I think momass and some of our other WRs (this is assuming Robiskie gets leon Hall all day) could find some openings. Their safeties though could end up being really bad this year.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
I am not nearly as high on Leon Hall as others are, but I think we have several matchup advantages everywhere else.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I don’t know how high others are on Leon Hall. I think he is a solid #1 CB. Probably top 15-20 CBs in the league, but Joseph was definitely the better player.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
Offense will be like but get the feeling the D has an extra week to get it’s house in order.
this is entirely possible. Their QB and #1 WR will both be rookies and their #2 will be a 2nd year player who saw a significant dropoff in the last 3 weeks once T.O. and Ochocinco were hurt. Plus, I don’t think Cedric Benson is that good.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!
(hide)
I am psyched,
Time’s up, let’s do this!
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by rufio on Sep 9, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
My dog is a badass. His name is Kosar.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 10, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Leeeeeeeeeeeeeerooooooooy Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenkiiiiiiiiiiiiins!
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by North Coast Flea on Sep 9, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What the hell is this thing?
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 9, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ve never seen Leeroy Jenkins?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Geek humor. meh
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 10, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a pretty classic viral video.
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Nothing personal, rufio. That game just turns me off. Not interested in anything about it.
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by Brownie's Year on Sep 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Never played it. In fact, you could potentially think of Leeroy as kind of the WoW haters.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Don’t know why I said “in fact”.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Uhh, what do you think Abduhl? Can you give me a number crunch real quick?
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Yeah but that’ll help him heal better, he’ll have more man-uh.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
thirty two point three three—repeating, of course—chance of survival…
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Damn Leeroy why do you always do this? At least I have Chicken!
How can it be the battle of Ohio When the Bungles are from KENTUCKY?
by ctowndawgpound on Sep 10, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know whether Pashos starting is good news or not – he was reportedly hobbling around on the practice field and in the locker room after. Does that mean the coaches feel better about him on one good ankle than any of the alternatives with two good wheels?
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
reportedly hobbling around on the practice field and in the locker room after
Source?
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing to watch – Cinci is starting a rookie RG against Taylor. Anyone remember what happened last time Taylor saw a rook?
by HenryDawg on Sep 9, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
On the plus side, that rookie from Philly was also a first rounder. On the minus side, that rookie from Philly was Taylor’s teammate about whom Taylor probably knew some tendencies.
by chitown browns fan on Sep 9, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec. Great observation – now I’m really pumped to see that matchup.
Go, I say go away boy, you bother me.
by burntorangeandbrown on Sep 9, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else feel like Maiva is possibly a better option than Gocong? I remember seeing Maiva fly around the ball and the backfield on occasion and can’t seem to remember Gocong ever getting my attention last year.
by chitown browns fan on Sep 9, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
I like Maiava situationally. If we play in an under front where he is protected from uncovered linemen or if he’s in there on clear passing downs, I like it. Gocong is far more physical.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I recall seeing getting maiava literally get blown off the field in the GB game. But in a 4-3 there should be less spare linemen around to do that….
He’s still sub-230 isn’t he?
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He’s not big.
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But I would be surprised if he’s that small.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Listed at 6-0 and 229, which if my memory is working is what he was drafted at. I can’t believe they haven’t bulked him up from that, but then I also think he was supposed to be very strong for his size.
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Plus he Boar hunts with only a knife=Total Badass!
How can it be the battle of Ohio When the Bungles are from KENTUCKY?
by ctowndawgpound on Sep 10, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Palmer somehow comes back I can’t imagine them starting him. Dalton looked pretty good in his last outing but he is still a rookie and that will show. There isn’t much I’m worried about on Sunday but a loss a team like Cincy that is in such disarray would be pretty devastating. This game will set the tone for the rest of the season. If we can beat the bad teams we play, we’ll have a so-so season. If we can beat the bad teams and a couple of the good teams (good chance against Manning-less Colts for example) we could be sniffing at the playoffs.
What we should really be hoping for this weekend is that the Steelers and Ravens inflict as many long-term injuries on each other as possible in a 17-17 tie. Not that I wish bad things on the players… or maybe I do.
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No way Palmer comes back.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Palmer comes back as soon as Mike Brown figures out what he can get in trade from Indy for him…….
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
by DaveDawg09 on Sep 10, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, scratch 1/2 of this story. Pashos, in typical Pashos fashion is now listed as Doubtful. In even better news, Pinkston is listed as Probable, but has a knee injury. That explains the attempted rush to get someone else up to speed at LG all week. I want to know where Greco is in all this? I haven’t once read of him getting reps at either of the positions that are seemingly up in the air right now. I’m starting to worry about the part of the team that was supposed to be the least of our worries.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
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