Shurmur Contacting Offensive Coordinator Candidates By Phone
by Chris Pokorny on Jan 12, 2012 10:51 PM EST
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PrintHere is a quick update regarding the Cleveland Browns' search for an offensive coordinator: according to the Akron Beacon Journal, head coach Pat Shurmur has been talking to candidates over the phone. The ABJ states that it is unclear whether any formal interviews have taken place yet; my guess is that they have not.
Shurmur is keeping his list of candidates private, but he is exclusively looking for someone with experience in the West Coast Offense. If Brad Childress doesn't get a head coaching gig with the Buccaneers, I think he remains Cleveland's top candidate. If Childress doesn't work out, then I'm anticipating the team will hire a position coach looking to move up in the league (much like when Eric Mangini gave Brian Daboll an opportunity a few years back). Besides a Childress or a newcomer, I don't think the team can lure a proven coordinator on the offensive side of the ball. Hopefully we'll here some rumors next week about more of the candidates so this hiring process doesn't get dragged out beyond the Super Bowl.
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What are people’s opinions on Schottenheimer? I don’t know much about his time in New York, but I think a lot of their shortcomings offensively this year weren’t on him. He at least has OC experience that we can look at unlike position coaches.
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Yep.
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exactly. He would have to learn a new language and communication would be more difficult.
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There’s probably philosophical differences behind it too, but his terminology is almost definitely different.
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I think the philosophical differences are definitely important and its definitely there…its hard to even get to the point where you know you have differences if it seems like the other person is speaking greek.
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They would be able to communicate concepts to one another if they sat at a chalkboard but it’s just a matter of having one guy be able to memorize that much terminology while also being an NFL OC.
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yeah. That’s what I was kinda trying to get at.
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that’s what I was thinking.
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I have the misfortune of watching the Jets every week, and I can say pretty safely that he is terrible.
That’s some pretty tough misfortune there.
....just need a guy called Byner to play RT...
by LondonBrown on Jan 14, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
The one thing that concerns me about this is that we have yet to hear “The Cleveland Browns have asked for permission to talk to -—-”. This can only mean we are not looking at anyone who’s team is in the playoffs. Why do we always hire coaches from losing teams?
A lot of times teams don’t ask permission until the playoffs are over.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Just hire Chilly. He is a really bad, bad head coach – but a really good OC. We will gain 2 wins just by moving play calling responsibility from Pat to Chilly – I guarantee it.
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I think we would but we have to wait and see if he is available — he is being considered apparently for some heading coaching positions, and I guess it’s possible that he would also consider being an OC somewhere else as well (as crazy as that sounds).
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 13, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
There have also been rumblings of GB’s QB coach Tom Clements. I’d prefer Chilly over anyone available, but if Shurmur wants to call plays giving a seemingly very effective QB coach a shot couldn’t hurt.
I think Clements is defintely a possibility. I thougth he might have some last year. Certainly has the offense down and would be a step up from his current job. A hire like this might even preserve Shumurs desire to keep calling plays. It will be interesting to see how they handle Mark Whipple in this OC hiring process.
I’ll definitely take Clements over Zorn. Not a big Zorn fan, but he is a WCO guy.
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I’ll definitely take Clements over Zorn. Not a big Zorn fan, but he is a WCO guy.
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I’ll definitely take Clements over Zorn. Not a big Zorn fan, but he is a WCO guy.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 13, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll definitely take Clement over Zorn. Not a big Zorn fan, but he is a WCO guy.
by chitown browns fan on Jan 14, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN Rumors page says the Browns also have shown interest in Doug Pederson, currently the QBs coach in Philadelphia. Is that the same guy who started games at QB for us in the Chris Palmer era?
might as well see what Spergon Wynn is up to while we are at it or we could go the Art Shell route and hire the manager of a local bed and breakfast.
by PaduaDSP on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I saw Spergon on a NFL show last night called the Brady 6 – It details all the guys that were drafted before Brady and a “where are they now” format. Needless to say none of them are holding as many trophies as Brady. Spergon was holding his newborn child not a football and is an energy trader in Texas.
Please don’t remind us of the Palmer “era” ever again.
by JulioBernazard on Jan 13, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Would be nice, especially if we draft a “mobile” QB.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 14, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
I really feel that O coordinator is the #1 greatest need in the off season. Greater than any player in the draft or FA.
Some of the game management mistakes made by Shurmur were most likely a direct result of two things… Him being a rookie head coach at any level… and not having a trusted coordinator to assist in-game.
Does Hecket scout OCs too? I hope
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Heckert would likely not be involved with the search.
Having an OC would definitely help any HC be more aware of the game, but then again so would not having your QB change the playcall to a run instead of clocking the ball.
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You really don’t think Heckert would have a say in the new OC? You could be right but GMs have a lot of pull.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
He might have a little input but I’d guess the decision is almost purely Shurmur’s. Heckert doesn’t have to work with the guy every day for hours on end, he just has to be able to understand what kinds of players he wants.
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Agree with this. Whatever we do in the draft (whatever reasonable stuff we do in the draft) my biggest wish for offseason is getting a good OC and at the moment I think that is Chilly.
Minnesota was a mess because of Favre/ owner politics but the Jags wont be any better. I’m hoping he sees the need to rehab his rep as an OC and doing it with a strong likeminded FO is the best way to do that. Also it doesn’t take much for us to improve on O, different ask to say taking over the Falcons O and making that work.
....just need a guy called Byner to play RT...
by LondonBrown on Jan 14, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Ah! We just need to get hold of his phone records. Never a reporter from The Guardian around when you need one.
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....just need a guy called Byner to play RT...
by LondonBrown on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
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