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Offensive Draft Success: By the Numbers

Given that the Browns have a pair of first-round draft picks in April – including the fourth overall selection – I thought it'd be interesting to examine more closely how well teams have done in similar situations in the past.

Statistically speaking, it appears from what I've put together that somewhere between 40% and 45% of offensive players drafted in the first round go on to have long and successful careers.

The rest? They're mostly busts. A smattering of players have had promising careers cut short by injury, drugs, crime, becoming a preacher and even death. But the vast majority of players who petered out just weren't up to snuff.

The breakdown and methodology after the jump.

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I decided to approach this question of offensive draft success straightforwardly – by looking at every QB, WR, RB and offensive lineman drafted between 1990 and 2005. I then tried to determine whether they had successful careers.

This was challenging because success in the NFL can be tough to define. Are you a successful receiver if you have a 10-year career, bag 5,000 receiving yards but never make the Pro Bowl and are never a standout? Borderline cases like these were hard, but I tried my best to give them a fair grade. Luckily, in most instances players were either obviously busts or obviously standouts.

Here is what I found, as detailed in the spreadsheet here. While I tried to be thorough, I probably made an error here and there; please let me know if you notice anything wrong.

Quarterbacks

A total of 35 QBs were taken in the first round between 1990 and 2005. A couple of the best were Peyton Manning at first overall in 1998 and Aaron Rodgers at 24 in 2005. The worst were the infamous Ryan Leaf in the second spot in 1998 and our own Tim Couch the following year at number one. My overall success rate for QBs was exactly 40%.

Wide Receivers

WR picks were more common than QBs – there were more than 60 chosen in the 16-draft period I looked at. Generally, I required WRs to have at least 5,000 yards receiving and at least eight years in the league, giving extra consideration for Pro Bowl appearances and longevity with a single team. The success rate was pretty similar, at 44.25%.

Offensive Linemen

I expected to see a rise in teams using top picks to take OTs as time went on, but the statistics say otherwise. They've always been popular first-round picks: more offensive linemen than wide receivers were chosen in the first round between 1990 and 2005. Aside from the 1990 draft, when just one was chosen, at least three offensive linemen were taken in the first round in every year I looked at. The success rate here was 43.94%, measured on longevity and Pro Bowl appearances.

Running Backs

More than 50 RBs were taken in the first round over the period I looked at. The success rate was remarkably similar to WRs and offensive linemen. I set a minimum of about 5,000 rushing yards (less for active players) and used the same sorts of other criteria as I applied to WRs. The rate here was 44.23%.

What does it all mean? First of all, I have to reinforce that there's a high degree of subjectivity that makes this an imperfect statistical analysis at best. Secondly, even if these numbers were significant statistically, it's not as though they would be incredibly useful to talent scouts and GMs. They make draft decisions based on performance, physical attributes, their teams' needs and a plethora of other things, and that's how it should be.

Despite that, I find these numbers interesting. For one thing, they underline that if you have a couple of first-round picks, based on past experience you're theoretically better off keeping both of those picks than trading for a higher pick. If your goal is to get at least one star player, it's better to have two 40-to-45% chances of getting there than one 40% chance of getting a good guy. Draft position within the first round had no significant impact on the probability of success, according to these figures.

I know I'm leaving out TEs from this analysis, by the way. I will put them in when I've got time.

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It is remarkable how 1st round WRs taken at the beginning of your study period (early 90s) have had much more success overall than WRs taken in the latter years. Yet I do not see a reluctance to gamble on WRs… most notably Atlanta’s trade with Cleveland last season.

Two minor comments:

- You can hardly say Sanchez is established in NY right now
- Yes, I’m going to challenge the assertion that Dilfer was a successful QB

Other than that, great post, looking forward to more!

by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 14, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Dilfer was never a star QB, but he won games by not screwing up to badly. Sometimes a competant game manger is better than a super strong arm with bad judgement (DA anyone).

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by J. W. on Jan 14, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Being better than DA is a pretty low bar for being good.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 14, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I’ve removed Sanchez’s established tag based on this — you’re right that he’s under fire and it’s hard to call him established at this point.

Dilfer I’m on the fence about. He was the starter for the team that drafted him for five full years, and led them to the playoffs once. He was also elected to the Pro Bowl once during that stretch. In addition, he ended his career with more than 20,000 yards passing. That’s not a terrible number. All things considered, though, he was never a star QB, as has pointed out. And he probably wasn’t exactly a QB any team would be glad to get with the sixth pick in the draft.

It’s a tough one…perhaps the hardest decision of all these QBs. I’m marking him as not successful for now, as you suggest.

by batard on Jan 15, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree. His numbers and play would have fit a 2nd or 3rd round QB pick in the draft, not #6. If we did that I’d be pissed, which was why I was happy when we traded away from dirty sanchez. I just got pissed when the three 2nd round picks got squandered on retard picks – passing on Matthews LB, Maualuga LB, & Loadholt OT in 09’ was just plain stupid.

I’m gonna hear people say what about Couch? What about him? Was he worthy of the 1st pick in the draft – no, regardless, by not giving the tools to work with and having real protection, he didn’t have a chance. History repeated itself this past season – McCoy’s in the same position, so do we ruin him or actually build right and give him the real chance? That’s not my call, I’m not getting paid millions to be a team president or GM.

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by J. W. on Jan 15, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

His numbers and play would have fit a 2nd or 3rd round QB pick in the draft, not #6.

He was #5. Just saying.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 15, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome spreadsheet. Seriously interesting stuff.

Note that the 1990s seemed to have yielded a ton of first round busts at QB — wonder if it’s coincidence or if it is that teams have gotten better at scouting and attributed more value to first round picks (thus, they are less likely to take a first round flyer on, say, Dan McGwire, who was Mark’s brother by the way).

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 14, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Looking at the reaches on Gabbert, Locker and Ponder, probably not.

by HenryDawg on Jan 14, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Gabberts team blows, Lockers got decent people around him, and Ponders team stinks too (though he really didnt look to god awful).

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by J. W. on Jan 14, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Ponder has some game.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 14, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Ponder could be good, I’m just speaking more to how high they were drafted.

by HenryDawg on Jan 15, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Also interesting that I agree with you on the “successful/unsuccessful” call on every QB, except one: Alex Smith. I think you have to call him unsuccessful. Drafted first overall in 2005 and has not done squat until this year, and this year he has been just a good game manager.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 14, 2012 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Also Dilfer. He is a pretty classic bust. Tampa Bay let him go.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 14, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree as a star he was a bust, though I think he’s better than a 3rd of currently starting NFL QB’s right now.

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by J. W. on Jan 14, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I have marked Dilfer as not successful.

by batard on Jan 15, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you’re right about this, especially considering that Smith was picked first in the draft in 2005. He had to battle through a bunch of major changes in offensive systems in his first few years, but has also never been able to put up star-style numbers. Changed.

by batard on Jan 15, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Good game manager, yes, until yesterday. He actually stepped his game up for one game.

by OldTimeDawg on Jan 15, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You should also list Schaub as the starter and as “established” for the Texans. Yates is just filling in.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 14, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

This is really interesting. I’m especially interested in the fact that position within the first round doesn’t seem all that important, though that could easily be because of the sample size. There are only one or two QBs at every pick after all.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 14, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

I found this incredibly interesting. Even taking into account the subjectivity of the rating system, I was still shocked that OL success rate was so low.

On another note, I think this stat points to one of the reasons the New England Patriots have been so successful in the draft. I can’t remember them ever trading up, but they always seem willing to trade down and accumulate picks. I think they’ve got the right idea. Its always a gamble no matter how highly rated a player might be. Therefore, pick as many players as possible to improve your chances of hitting it big.

It supports my belief that I don’t care as much about who we pick as long we don’t give away a bunch of picks chasing someone like Luck.

by BiggieBrown on Jan 16, 2012 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

I think your NE example is a little smoke and mirrors. First of all, they have the best QB in football and they’re surrounding talent has been on the decline over the last decade, which is why they haven’t been to a SB in a few years. We need some talent now more than just role players.

by HenryDawg on Jan 16, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

First of all, they have the best QB in football

Exactly, that skews the entire analysis. When you have Tom Brady, accumulating picks to try to find players makes sense. But when you don’t have Tom Brady, it is very hard to get real good by doing this.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

On you surprise about linemen: the reason people say linemen have a lower bust rate is because they don’t often end up terrible. They may never live up to expectations, but few of them outright suck. The same is true for defense. Gerrard Warren never lived up to his draft position, but he has been a starting defensive tackle for about a decade now.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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