2012 uniforms - have your say
by HenryDawg on Jan 16, 2012 10:29 PM EST
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Amidst all the questions about free agency, the draft, RG3, McCoy and all the other questions, one issue subtly permeated Browns related discussions through the latter part of the season.
White or Brown?
No this is not a racial question. This is about whether or not you like us wearing the all whites that we wore during the Otto Graham and Bernie Kosar era or do you not like seeing the Steelers wearing their black and piss colored unis in our house more?
Would you like to see us break out the orange pants every now and then? How about brown trousers with stripes, an unexplored concept made famously popular by our own Special Brownie.
Also, did anyone notice that our orange helmets had a slightly different tone this year? It looked a little less bright than in recent years. Personally I loved it. I would like to see a mix of the whites and browns next year. Maybe wear the whites for non-division opponents and brown for division rivals?
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White pants when wearing white jerseys, orange pants when wearing brown jerseys.
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by Dawg Nuts on Jan 16, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
A poor shoop of what I’d like to see.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions
Are those brown helmets? hmmmm. Never thought about that before. Id have to see it but I kinda like the idea.
I live for Christ the KING.
I couldn’t put the orange stripe in properly. But the orange and brown would get swapped on the helmets. I’m into an all brown uniform with traces of orange.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 16, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I say no no no to the Brown helmets.
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
How dare you change the color of the helmet!
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Like I said, maybe make the brown helmet on the Alternate? I’m all for a Brown helmet and then keeping our logo orange. It would actually make our logo independent!
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Brown pants with stripes are sexy
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Alternative uniform choice...
…favored by the rest of the AFC North
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by PaVaSteeler on Jan 22, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The brown pants look great but the brown helmet…not so much. I’d rather see adding all white (including helmet) for a throwback (1950-51 day games). But…the orange helmet is a mainstay.
by DawgsNHawgs on Jan 24, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I liked those too.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
All whites or all browns. Rust helmets…let them get as dark as possible.
I live for Christ the KING.
This Brown Jersey:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CQxNDNdTVpM/Tj6z4BCRmVI/AAAAAAAABsM/5M2-9J-l3uQ/s1600/GEDC0274.JPG
I live for Christ the KING.
All Whites
Brown Jersey/White Pants
White Jersey/Brown pants (with no stripe).
No orange jerseys or pants… Ever.
A less-shiny orange for the helmets.
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No orange jerseys or pants… Ever.
Ever. Who makes these decisions anyway?
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Probably the owners so…. Holmgren? I can’t see Lerner caring enough.
by macdowellm03 on Jan 17, 2012 4:28 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Someone under Holmgren who works on the business side of things (as opposed to the “football” side of things), I think. Holmgren would have the final say.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Say Lerner was an involved owner. Would it be him then?
by macdowellm03 on Jan 17, 2012 7:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Only if he was also the president or whatever title it would be and didn’t have the Holmgren-level guy.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Matte Brown helmets instead of shiny orange.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 16, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m one of those that “feels” like changing the helmet color is sacrilege.
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by kwoog on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
How about changing it on just the alternate then? Actually make our alternate alternate?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Nope. Do other teams change helmets outside of throwbacks?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
throwbacks?
Implies a change of the helmet at some point.
"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."
Right. That’s why it’s an alternate. Why do we have to follow form anyways. WE’RE THE MFing CLEVELAND BROWNS.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I meant within one season. Like does any team have an alternate helmet that is part of their current uniforms?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Not that I can think of. Which was my point a few comments above.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Eagles wore some God Awful highlighter Michigan wanna-be helmets one season.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 17, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I’d kill for them to pair a white helmet with the all white unis. I also like the idea of a brown helmet.
"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson
White, white and white? Hell no
by macdowellm03 on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
White helms, white jerseys, white pants? I’ll pass on the opening our franchise to Cleveland Klan jokes
I can honestly tell you that thought never crossed my mind having watched Penn State play many, many football games in all white jerseys.
"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson
Agree. I think Texas’ all white uni’s are some of the best in CFB.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 22, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Browns wore white helmets for day games in 1950-51. I also would like to see an all white throwback uni. The ‘B in football’ logo on the side with a single orange and two brown stripes down the center would look cool. Very similar to Jets logo.
by DawgsNHawgs on Jan 24, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never seen that before, would you happen to have any pics of it?
"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson
Sorry, I don’t. Google it. They wore solid white leathers. The logo n stripes is just a concept of mine.
by DawgsNHawgs on Jan 25, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Shield Your Eyes.
After further review, I am also for using orange jerseys and pants once in a blue moon as well, I like ridiculously garish uniforms.
"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson
I really like the new Maryland uniforms and those neon green Seahawk ones too. Oh and if Tampa Bay ever uses that old pirate logo again they should get a new one and use Johnny Depp’s face.
by macdowellm03 on Jan 17, 2012 4:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Those Maryland uniforms are definitely a monstrosity, but from what I hear, they are very Maryland-esque. Everything but the herpes is represented.
"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."
by Simmsinns on Jan 17, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I agree. I like flamboyant jerseys.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Maryland unis are terrible. Still love the Bucs’ old school orange.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by rufio on Jan 17, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I thought so too.
Like Nike/Oregon the Under Armor guy is from Maryland. UA is gunna start doing alts now for other schools.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 17, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
They chrome Oregon helmets were the coolest helmets in the history of the world.
I would wear one around my house.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 17, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Fans of the Maryland uniforms also love the half-shave:
"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."
That’s the best way!
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by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you’re tacky and I hate you.
I teach good life choices. That's why I almost didn't graduate high school.
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It’s a Frank Costanza line. No one seemed to pick up on it.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
I picked up on it and countered with School of Rock. not the best counter, but oh well…
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I’d like orange helmets, orange jerseys and brown pants. Not a big fan of brown helmets, its too much of a shitty color. I don’t ever want to see all white uniforms ever again.
by macdowellm03 on Jan 17, 2012 4:35 AM EST via Android app reply actions
First and foremost, we shouldn’t do anything fancy until we start getting good. No point looking good when you’re getting your ass kicked.
Simms and I have poked around with the idea of flat brown helmets before. The pic below would be a cool alt for a game or two a year. With a brown jersey it would looked decent too.
But for now I’m fine with the white pants and brown jerseys for home games.
It has the “make them go blind” factor, though. Allow me to compare and contrast:
Intimidation Factor:
“Oh sh*t, they look tough! Oh wait… It’s the Browns, nevermind.”
Browns lose.
Blinding Factor:
“Oh sh*t, I’m blind and can’t see anything! Who the eff are we playing, anyway??”
Browns win.
… I could settle with all orange
Who the eff are we playing, anyway??
Clemson. Are they in the NFL?
by HenryDawg on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Intimidation? Maybe not. But, how is the other team gonna feel after they get beat by a team that are head to toe in orange? Haha
(hide pic) Jim Brown in orange
In theory, I’m not for orange jerseys at all and am only so-so on the Sipe-era orange pants, but this is pretty badass.
by mister serious on Jan 17, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think that’s JB. Might be Ernie Davis in an exhibition game before he died?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the photo caption said Jim Brown. I don’t follow college football past or present, so I’m ignorant on this.
by mister serious on Jan 17, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
That’s JB at Syracuse I believe.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 17, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was Ernie Davis. But you’re probably right.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 17, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I knew it was a Cuse player. I just usually associate Ernie to Cuse more than I do JB
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
did they both wear 44 at ’Cuse? I am almost positive Davis wore 44…but it does look more like JB.
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Actually that Ernie Davis movie was on yesterday and it mentions this.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 18, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t see all of that movie, so I didn’t realize this.
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It’s not bad. it has the Browns in it which is cool. But it portrays Modell as a good caring man. pff.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 18, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
LOLWUT?
I mean, he may have been caring to Davis…but LOLWUT?
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They probably couldn’t afford all new helmets for everyone, or they bought new ones while one of them way in the middle of college and they didn’t want to switch.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, helmets are never supplied to anyone unless you want the bottom of the barrel. That’s how it’s always been, how it always will be
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
In high school we got pretty nice helmets. We got Revos at a time when they were pretty new. We didn’t have enough for the whole team for the first couple of years, but I think they do now.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
My coach would not buy me my DNA no matter how many times I asked. Had the money in hand for it everytime too.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 18, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I could have sworn we had enough for all non-freshmen my senior year. I had a Revo that year and never asked for one.
I should have made my screen name DerekAndersonIsMyBrother
By then we probably did. I just remember as a sophomore I still had one of the old Riddell.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 21, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I’m all for this.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
All Brown (a very dark brown) , with orange stripe on the pants, and one thin line down the middle of the helmet, and the numbers are a combination of white trimmed with orange.
"Excuse me while I ride my unicorn over to the gentleman’s club my wife doesn’t mind me visiting and doing coke off a hooker’s ass." - Henry Dawg , DBN - Dec 2011
Why join the pack and introduce some stupid USFL type unis? No way.
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions
Bring back the orange footabll shaped Nacho Bowls!!!! When I was pilaged for $7.00 for nachos at least I had nice Browns logo tupperware to take home and they made nice cereal bowls when I was trying to lose my tailgating package aquired during the season. Some cereal and a nice side car of yogurt was great! Tail gate food is life changing, because I have changed my pants and shirt sizes. What’s next? Lerner takes away those really cool cocoa cups with player graphics and a pop lid? Damn you Lerner!!!
" I thought the Rocky Mountains would be rockier than this." Ya, that John Denver is full of #$%! man. Besides, we just got Tebowed!!!
I want the ugly ass stripped socks gone. Hate them.
Plus, I wish we had some sort of Black and Orange Halloween alternate uni.
Striped socks are the best, also the all-black shoes are awesome.
by HenryDawg on Jan 17, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hate the black shoes. Makes us look slow.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they could put little flames on the side.
by HenryDawg on Jan 17, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
JoePa mandated all black shoes to appear slower on film.
by DawgsNHawgs on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Striped socks are awesome and all black shoes look horrid.
Need to be white with secondary orange accents.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 17, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, good call on the orange and black. Did that once on create a team. Black pants/jerseys, orange helmet and numbers. Looked cool but had that Bengal feeling.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why we could only do it once or twice a season.
Maybe some all black with orange accents.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
just remember that Nike is taking over NFL jersey’s this year starting in April and every article about it says to expect a nike combat feel.
Nike combat is a texture of their uniform as well, not just necessarily the look. It’s not Nike’s decision to choose what uniforms look like in the NFL.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 18, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
I would think some teams might go this route, but I guess the league office is discouraging it. They want to limit teams from wearing alt unis in prime time games also. They think it hurts brand recognition. For example, casual viewer tunes in to see the Jets, but they’re wearing their blue Titans of New York unis and doesn’t stay tuned because they don’t think the Jets are playing.
I would guess the other way. The more unis, the more sales.
I would sprint to the store to buy a RG3 Browns alternate jersey.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 18, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Not so fast. B19K would’ve already bought white shoes with flames.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 18, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
No logo needed. It’s our claim to fame and what distinguishes us from every other team.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I’m trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Ricky Henderson
by dawgtribe on Jan 25, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
All Brown (a very dark brown) , with orange stripe on the pants, and one thin line down the middle of the helmet, and the numbers are a combination of white trimmed with orange
"Excuse me while I ride my unicorn over to the gentleman’s club my wife doesn’t mind me visiting and doing coke off a hooker’s ass." - Henry Dawg , DBN - Dec 2011
I just want the Brown back at home. Maybe with some orange pants thrown inonce a year.
fixed.
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Orange jersey with brown pants as a alternate. Otherwise Brown jerseys at home.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 21, 2012 12:09 AM EST reply actions
We don’ need no stinkin logo!
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Maybe we don’ need a logo but we definitely need a change. And I for one, like this particular logo (on white).
by DawgsNHawgs on Jan 25, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree that we need a change. I love the simple Orange helmets.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 25, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s a couple ideas I’ve had for a couple of years:
Metallic orange helmet, like copper, as an alternate.
Put the B football logo somewhere on the uni like across the stripes on the pants.
And with all due respect for the Lerner family… I think it’s time to take the AL off the sleeves.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I’m trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Ricky Henderson
And with all due respect for the Lerner family… I think it’s time to take the AL off the sleeves.
I disagree. He brought football back to Cleveland.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 25, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I thought the same thing and I’m glad he did. But if he hadn’t done it, someone else would have. There were a couple other groups vying to get the franchise. Kosar was part of one of them.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I’m trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Ricky Henderson
And had of them done that, instead of Lerner, and passed away, I would gladly don their initials on my jersies.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 25, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’m totally fine with the AL on the sleeve. It’s not like it’s a gaudy eyesore.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 25, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
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