Jabaal Sheard and Phil Taylor Named to PFW All-Rookie Team
by Chris Pokorny on Jan 17, 2012 4:00 PM EST
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PrintThere we go -- some recognition for Cleveland Browns defensive end Jabaal Sheard after all. Sheard was named to the Pro Football Weekly/Professional Football Writers of America All-Rookie Team. He was one of two defensive ends selected, with the other honor obviously going to the Houston Texans' J.J. Watt.
It was also kind of a surprise to see that Sheard wasn't the only Browns rookie on the list. The team's first-round selection, defensive tackle Phil Taylor, also made the list. The other defensive end selected was the Buffalo Bills' Marcell Dareus.
Based on playing time, the Browns had three other rookies who could have been considered for the All-Rookie Team: fullback Owen Marecic, offensive guard Jason Pinkston, and wide receiver Greg Little. PFF didn't pick a fullback, so that ruled out Marecic. Pinkston played the entire season, but never blew anyone out of the water and was only stable by the end of the season. Little had an up-and-down year, but no where near enough to match what A.J. Green, Julio Jones, and others accomplished.
As far as PFW/PFWA's All-Pro Team, it should be no surprise that Joe Thomas was selected as one of the offensive tackles:
Since entering the league in 2007, Thomas has never missed a snap, anchoring the Browns' line from Day One. He had another dominant season in '11 despite the rest of the Browns' offense struggling. Thomas is as solid as they come at one of the more important positions on the field in both the run game and pass protection.
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we are a DE away from having a sick front 4
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I am thinking we should be modeling ourselves after the Giants on D. Keep drafting pass rushers and let these guys just make it hell for the opposing team.
Agreed. I would love to grab a pass rusher with our later first or second round pick.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Itd be wise to draft a pass rusher with the second round pick.
4th overall: needs to be used on justin blackmon, which would dramatically improve the offense. blackmon 1st string, little 2nd string and massaquoi 3rd string. that sounds absolutely stellar.
22nd overall: needs to be used on a right tackle or right guard…this would dramatically improve the right side of the line. Joe Thomas, Jason Pinkston, Alex Mack, Eric Steinbach (return from injury), 1st round draft pick RG. and our offensive line will be outstanding.
and finally with the second rounders we can get a pass rush…we need to address our biggest problems first and those are the receivers and the right side of the offensive line
The offensive line was pretty average last year (I feel like this should be in the banner for the site). That isn’t one of our top two needs.
Besides, need is only one factor when drafting players.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I have a theory now that most of these people are somewhat fair weather fans who go on first impression, watched the first 4 games, saw Oneil Cousins get lit up and basically strung that vision out for 16 games. I’m sure most of them wouldn’t even know our starting RT missed all that time and had a bum leg the rest of it. I’m sure they also have no clue how much Pinkston and Luvao improved over the year.
our starting RT missed all that time and had a bum leg the rest of it.
Injury prone is the problem there.
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by Aussie Brown on Jan 18, 2012 6:39 AM EST up reply actions
Right, but his performance wasn’t bad. Taking the whole season, our line was pretty average in pass protection.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 18, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, but Pashos’ injury history makes me think we need to draft an RT, just in a later round. Definitely not round 1 or 2.
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I would be fine with rd 2—easily. Pashos isn’t getting younger.
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I figure DE or LB, whichever we don’t go with in round 1. I expect a 3rd round RT would still be successful.
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If there’s one there I would be fine taking a LB or DE too. I don’t think you take a guy that high just because he plays the position that you happen to need. He’s got to be good.
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I will take mercilus over mike adams 100 times out of 100.
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I’m just glad that this year, unlike three years ago, we can actually focus on positional drafting at these handful of positions as opposed to taking the BPA overall for lack of warm bodies. However we dice it up, we have deficiency at O skill, run stop and pass rush. Our line played fairly well but Steinbach could be a liability and somewhere along the way they forgot how to block when we played Baltimore.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 18, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
The Giants are amazing at making diamonds in the rough into all-pro caliber players.
"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."
They just know how to scout the position. Most of their quality rushers were drafted in the 1st or 2nd.
I stand by what I said, whether it’s due to awesome scouting or awesome coaching, or a combination of both.
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Both. And now that they have that culture there its even easier. Every young DE they get can learn from Tuck, Osi, etc.
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agreed. that’s where my mind was going when I was typing this. maybe Benard can come back next year and fit into the DE role a bit better, and I wouldn’t mind drafting one in the top 3 rds this yr (obviously depending on the board). good pass rush makes EVERYTHING better.
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by Gabe Durrant on Jan 17, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I rewatched the Browns Steelers game in Cleveland and Sheard and Rubin were really strong against the Steelers. I agree we have a potentionally very good D-Line, and with signing DQ we are only a player or two away from a strong defense that can win games for us. Young D-Line too
Gocong looked good on the strong side. I don’t know if he can cover TEs though. Add a fast WLB and RDE plus Ward coming back is a pretty nice look D for only a couple of years worth of work. Plus it actually has some depth with Paxson, Shaeffering, Benard and others.
Paxson does fairly well coming off the bench. He’s at the right place at the right times.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 17, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I like our depth on the line.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
If Gocong takes over Fujitas job on the strongside, is Maieva our man on the weakside? I’m thinking not and would like to see us pick there over (higher than) RDE.
....just need a guy called Byner to play RT...
Usually you would take a RDE higher than a WLB, and Maiava > Mitchell. I’ve seen a lot of people having us taking Zack Brown with the second one or maybe the 2nd rnd. He’s one of the better 4-3 WLB in this draft.
I also think linebackers who don’t rush the passer are a bit like running backs.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 17, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind going after Trevethan or Spence in the 3rd.
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I’m with you on Trevethan! He is great at the splash play, always seems to be in the right place. Plus he covers a lot of ground quickly. I’m suprised he does not get more love than he does considering his numbers despite playing for a horrible defense.
I think he is much more of a WLB than a mlb. DQ was an undersized mlb. The difference is I thinnk Trevethan is more athletic and better in coverage.
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I love how he can cover ground quickly. good in coverage, can read and react well. great WLB
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I think we have enough non-pass rushing LBs. Draft some guys who can drop into coverage and get after the passer.
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Agreed. A great cover LB is needed to keep up with the ever importance of TEs who are basically big bodied WRs.
by mr.saturday.night on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
I would almost be more comfortable with an extra safety or CB on the field to cover TE’s.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I think Brown is probably the best 4-3 WLB in the draft.
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I love Fujita, but I am not sure if he has enough left to be a full time starter next year.
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Gocong may not be able to cover TEs well, but he is better at Strong than Weak. There are so many ways we can go in this draft that can make me very happy and one is RG3, mercilus, Zach Brown. That front 7 is automatically awesome and you get a possible franchise QB.
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Gocong can’t be worse at covering TE’s than Fujita.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 18, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
isn’t this kinda like arguing which turd is shinier?
by PaduaDSP on Jan 18, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Debunked on Mythbusters: you can polish a turd.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
At least it’s shiny.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Cleveland sports sure does have it’s share of shiny turds. :(
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 19, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
And all you need is water, a fridge, and a lot of spare time.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
That’s what I am thinking.
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Phil Taylor has a boatload of natural ability. I do think he needs to get his motor more in line with a Tuba or he will eventually be a disappointment. Space eaters are great – but you need a DT that is able to disrupt things to justify a 1st rounder. He can be that – but will need to extend more effort to do so. Congrats to both Phil and Sheard.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Looked a little like he wore down this year to me, hit the rookie wall. He was decently disruptive for a guy that size, or at least got a solid amount of sacks. I’d love to see him put a consistently good year together.
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He should really benefit from a full off-season program. Hopefully he follows Tuba around all off-season.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 18, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
If Blackmon is there, he’s my wish for #4.
Although, I will accept whoever H&H draft with any of our picks, as the top 4 guys from both of the drafts they’ve been charged with have turned out nicely so far.
by mr.saturday.night on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions
OT: Did BOaB get banned? I noticed the link to his profile is greyed out. I wanted to let him know how my San Antonio trip is going.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM EST reply actions
Hm, was it because of the Tebow thread?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
If it was, than I missed it.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Not that I’m aware of.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 18, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
If you go to the Alamo don’t forget to check out the basement.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 18, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I asked the tour guide* how many people ask to see the basement.
*There weren’t guided tours, he was more of a guy standing behind a podium.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 18, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
You know he’s thinking “AH! Everyday it’s that damn joke!”.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 19, 2012 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
Coincidentally, he told me there is a basement on the premises, just under a different building. It’s where his/their office is
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 19, 2012 2:54 AM EST up reply actions
He probably just says that to make people fell dumb for asking about a basement.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 19, 2012 3:37 AM EST up reply actions
At first I thought you were saying the guide was doing cocaine.
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That’s LaMicheal James. And it’s crack.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 19, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
No please, keep using soap.
Stop SOPA.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
What’s SOPA?
I thought this was a movement to support the smelly people of the world
by The Licensed Pessimist on Jan 18, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t tell if this is a joke or TLP actually being himself to not lose an argument?
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 18, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This link could take out all of SBN b/c of SOPA
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 19, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
Indeeb
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 19, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Never said I could do a good Scottish accent. :)
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 19, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Were there even any other starting DEs or DTs in the league all of this year besides Watt? I don’t think so.
These were pretty much default picks. Hell even PP and Harris earned roles and they were at the bottom of the league.
by The Licensed Pessimist on Jan 18, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions
Jordan
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 18, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
For now it looks like I got that one right, Golan.
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And Alex Mack as a NT.
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Can’t forget his tattoo of Steinbach ass.
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by North Coast Flea on Jan 19, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
You crapping on Browns’ players getting accolades?
Knock me over with a feather.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 18, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Im really excited to see how much they improve with a full offseason. Next year our entire DL needs to show more against the run, we consistently let teams get to the 2nd level and that cant happen.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions
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