Mike Holmgren Likes RG3

One of the site managers for Hogs Haven ran into Mike Holmgren last night in Arizona, and it's very clear he's enamored with Robert Griffin III, who happens to be working out in AZ right now.

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and silly season begins with the smokescreen from the Big Show.

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by realmccoy on Jan 19, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions

Read the article, still can’t find the quote “I like RG3”. I learned when I was young what assume really means. I could write the same artile word for word and title it “Mike Holmgren likes Luck” and the entire article would be still be the same.

Sorry for being a dick, but I am sick of RG3 and he has yet to see an NFL snap. He reminds me of pryer(sp?) from tOSU, but smaller. I my personal opinion “rg3” is just a bling-bling draft pick and not the way to a championship team.

Sorry about slamming your post but he never said he liked RG3

by Mayor_Bloom on Jan 19, 2012 1:15 PM EST reply actions

Agreed with the first part, second parts point and tone annoyed me. Was pretty unnecessary.

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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

Pryor and RG3 aren’t remotely close.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions

he has yet to see an NFL snap

I’ve never heard this phrase used so much as if it was prolific. Its true of 300 rookies that come out every year.

Also you clearly have no clue what you’re talking about.

by HenryDawg on Jan 19, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Anyone who compares RGIII to Pryor, Vick, or Cam Newton has 3 things going for them:

1) Laziness
2) Lack of internet access to look at stats
3) Has never seen him actually play.

I’m completely sick of this argument already, and it’s only January. Idiocy.

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by Gradysmanldy on Jan 19, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions

Actually no. It’s just pretty much raicst.

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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 19, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

The reference to a “bling bling draft pick” is a classic.

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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 21, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs

uhhh who?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by pwndabear on Jan 19, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions

Probably you, your schtick is too thick.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions

I thought this was interesting, though I was already partially aware of these stats:

Take it for what it is. This doesn’t make me like McCoy anymore, actually reinforces my lack of faith in Bradford.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions

It does too make you like McCoy more than Bradford.

We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.

by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 20, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions

Where I stood on McCoy remains the same. I think we need a quarterback.
But at least we’re not in the Rams’ situation.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 20, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions

It is interesting, and I’m with you generally. At the same time, I can’t deny that draft position plays a role in my thinking. If we’d taken Colt first overall, I’d be less ok with finding a new QB. It may make no sense, but it’s the truth, at least for me. It has something to do with not wasting the “investment” you’ve made in the draft. Then again, we chose –– ok, I won’t go there.

by batard on Jan 22, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions

I think it points more to potential. Nobody expects any QB to be a pro bowler their first or second year, but you do expect your high first rounder to eventually get there. Late 3rd rounders are usually a steal if they make any pro bowls.

by HenryDawg on Jan 22, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions

It has something to do with not wasting the "investment" you’ve made in the draft.

This is actually a flawed way of thinking. There’s a concept in economics called “sunk costs.” Basically, just because you’ve already invested something, it doesn’t make it a good idea to continue investing. You’re better off cutting your losses.

At the same time, while the performance may be similar, the QBs are not. Sam Bradford is physically a better prospect than McCoy. He will get more time to figure it out, and rightfully so. He doesn’t have to play as perfectly as McCoy does in order to be effective. Basically, his path to success is easier.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 23, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions

Sunk costs or not, 1st rounders get more opportunity to play than non-1st rounders.

More opportunity to play is correlated to better performance.

And 1st rounders are likely to be more talented than non-1st rounders, so knowing or believing (potentially falsely) will give a team reason to give that first rounder more opportunity—exactly like you say about McCoy/Bradford.

And none of this even touches on intangible things like how much the team around him believes in the QB. That raven D looked old and ready to retire the season before Flacco arrived. Tebow and the Broncos, etc.

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by rufio on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions