Tony Grossi's "Inadvertent" Tweet

I’m not a Tony hater nor do I think he is the end-all, be-all. He is often interesting and some of his analysis is worth while reading. I do not think these guys should be tweeting though until they thoroughly understand the technology. Apparently he apologized to Lerner too but I don’t understand the weight of that when the tweet pretty clearly shows his true feelings.

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by Brownsyup on Jan 19, 2012 3:02 PM EST reply actions

My biggest issue with Grossi is the way he handles his twitter. anyone that disagrees with him is insulted and belittled by him or his crony followers. Sometimes he is insightful, but often he is just full of hot air.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions

his twitter Q&A is just atrocious. i mean absolutely awful.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 19, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions

I’m not a Tony hater

Why not? The guy sucks. Seriously, he is absolutely god awful at what he does.

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by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Couldn’t have said it better. He has to be one of the most egotistical beat writers i’ve ever read. I know it’s his job to critique the Browns, but his suggestions are always awful, as is alot of his “inside information”. The one thing Grossi’s truly gifted at is talking without saying anything.

by Vududawg on Jan 23, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions

That apology is pretty worthless. If I were Randy Lerner I would let the Plain Dealer know that the Browns only give press passes to professionals, and Tony Grossi obviously isn’t one of those. I also don’t understand how he could call that inadvertent. Who the heck was he talking to? The tweet right above that one is pretty insulting as well. Someone asks Tony if it’s his job to listen to interviews pertaining to the Browns (AKA interviews of the owner) and Tony says it isn’t. What exactly is his job then?

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by notthatnoise on Jan 19, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions

lerner already hated grossi, so not much changes.

“inadvertent” is a great word for that tweet … translation: i meant to say that, just not for everyone to see. also, i love:

there was a comment attributed to me on my Twitter account

wtf is that supposed to mean? is he trying to say his twitter was hacked?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 19, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions

That is an amusing little gem. It’s fun to watch this guy squirm.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions

That’s such a perfect response to the situation. It implies that he somehow wasn’t responsible for it without actually stating anything. Fantastic. He should run for political office.

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by Adrock2099 on Jan 21, 2012 2:48 AM EST up reply actions

NTN – his job is to ask tough (and stupid) questions, then pick out some of the words that come in reply and twist them into material for his irrelevant, useless columns.

by Vududawg on Jan 23, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions

Tony Grossi is dumber than every single poster on this website.

If that hack put out anything at the level of this website his face would peel off and the mouth breathers at Cleveland.com would die under a cascade of facts and reasoning.

They can’t fire this turd fast enough.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 19, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions

The big queston is is he worse then MKC? The Plain Dealer has some awful writers.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions

Now THAT is the million-dollar question…
I don’t know the answer but I would be in favor of a celebrity grudge match to find out.

by Vududawg on Jan 23, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions

I thought he tried posting here once as ghostrider

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by Doc's Kid on Jan 19, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs

It all makes so much sense now.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions

Oh God, please let them fire him over this.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 19, 2012 3:18 PM EST reply actions

I want to ask him how his foot tastes, but then his cronies will be hate-tweeting me for days. Not worth it.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 19, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions

I posted about this in the other thread, but I will actually stand up for Tony on this one, don’t think he should face any punishment for this.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions

its an opinion of his and he shouldn’t face punishment for it. but that doesnt make him a complete tool for saying it.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by pwndabear on Jan 19, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions

The problem is that when you work in a very public industry anything you do that could make the company look bad is grounds for termination or discipline.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions

Yes, but he is also assigned to cover the Browns and there is a certain conflict of interest if it appears that the newspaper is not allowed to be critical of the organization. His comments were probably over the line, but at the same time may be useful in establishing the PD as completely independent.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions

Lately, the PD is completely independent of good writing so I don’t see the problem here.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 19, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions

Lately? I have yet to see good writing about the Browns in the PD. Although their Cavs and Indians coverage is pretty good.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions

i find hoynes to be completely unreadable, unbearable and borderline incoherent.

the cavs coverage has always been pretty strong.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 19, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions

I like their Cavs coverage, and I generally like Pluto.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 19, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions

big fan of pluto. i think he’s actually really really good … like national coverage caliber.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 20, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions

I’m also a huge Terry Pluto fan.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 21, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions

I guess I am one of the few that doesn’t like Pluto all that much. I like that he covers all 3 sports, but his opinions seem pretty generic and obvious. Doesn’t have much in the way of insider info.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 23, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions

i think you have to remember the context for pluto. you’re exactly right that he’s asked to be a generalist cleveland sports commentator … he’s not expected to be an expert in any single sport, and i don’t believe he’s expected to generate scoops or leads or insider stuff. he’s supposed to be a sort of “everyfan” mouthpiece. i think he does an excellent job of that, has fairly smart opinions and observations (though they may often be fairly obvious), and his writing style and presentation are pretty good (holding aside the columns when he has a conversation w/ himself…). plus, he’s eternally rational, which i appreciate. he’s rarely too high or too low about what’s going on in cleveland sports.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 23, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions

his observations aren’t as obvious to those who aren’t tuned in like your averaged DBN reader.

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by bross09 on Jan 23, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions

I mean, relative to the others, he deserves awards, but at the end of the day, I don’t feel I am missing out if I miss his column.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 24, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions

well, that’s a high bar. i think posnanski is about the only guy that hits that for me.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 24, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions

Not that high for me, I am more interested in someone that can offer analysis that isn’t obvious or has inside info. Any casual summary like Pluto does isn’t particularly interesting to me.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 25, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions

I miss Windy.

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by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions

Sold his soul.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 19, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions

I’m with ya. Crapped all over LeBron when he chose the Heat, then rides his coat tails.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 19, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions

Yep.

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by rufio on Jan 19, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions

His biggest sin was sheltering Lebron all those years and not letting the real stories come out. Then he denies that he had enough information to go public with them.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 20, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions

He sure did.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions

To go from borderline to completely incoherent, just read some Bill Livingston. We sit around the lunch table at work an laugh over his unreadable run on sentences and horrible analogies.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Jan 19, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions

man. he is just the worst. i always think of livy when i read stuff like this

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 20, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions

Haha

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions

There is a difference between covering a team and taking a swipe at the owner. His personal opinion on the owner has nothing to do with the product on the field which is what he is paid to cover. Honestly the Browns could revoke the PDs press access if they really wanted to and I think it would be kinda funny.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions

I was thinking this same thing. I’m sure if Lerner wants Grossi to be fired, he could do it pretty easily.

by RyanBr on Jan 19, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions

That would be end up being more bad PR for the Browns. Punishing them over a tweet? Not a good move.

by HenryDawg on Jan 19, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions

I disagree. If he wants to call Lerner a bad owner he can have at it. But this is personal, it isn’t professional at all. You say this is good for establishing the PD as an independent paper, but I could not disagree more. Nothing Tony Grossi writes about the Browns can ever be taken seriously ever again, because he has an agenda.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 19, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions

That’s a pretty good point. I was thinking of it as being fair-minded, but in fact it’s actually one-sided in a different direction.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions

Worse yet, some of us weren’t ever taking it seriously before.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions

Update II: Whispers from the friendly confines of the Plain Dealer newscomplex tell Scene that Grossi’s errant, insulting tweet might have the Browns beat writer in trouble today. Newsroom rumors, which are all they are at the moment, have Grossi actually in the office today, which as one person pointed out, never happens. That might not be anything — he did have a taping of some inside sports videocast for Cleveland.com. But, the editors and bosses have been talking to everyone’s favorite “most irrelevant writer in Cleveland,” and folks are assuming it’s a dressing down.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 19, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 3:44 PM EST reply actions 5 recs

Wait. It’s not even clear who he’s referring to.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 19, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions

Sorry if I’m missing any sarcasm, but he is referring to Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner. That’s clear as day.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions

It’s there. You didn’t miss it. It just doesn’t come across online.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 19, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions

If it was in relation to the Redskins/Holmgren thing where they were talking about whether he was talking about Luck or RG3 then it came across pretty good.

by HenryDawg on Jan 19, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions

Nice pick up.

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by The Licensed Optimist on Jan 21, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions

I would give anything to have media access to the Browns and this hack seems to not even care. He spits out “opinion pieces” and trashes those around him that disagree. Would be glad to see him out of work.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Haha, I happened to scan twitter when this first came across, and I couldn’t believe my eyes.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

I think twitter is awesome in that it often gets public figures to accidentally reveal their true feelings about various things.
Especially people like Grossi or Mendenhall (we all remember that right?)

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions

Jim Irsay is pretty entertaining on Twitter as well.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions

At first I wanted to write: “How do you send an ‘inadvertent’ tweet? How is that not intended to be tweeted? I mean, come on now. You type the thing either into your phone or into the tweet box online, and you hit send. How do you eff that up???”

… and then I remembered it is Tony Grossi. Confusion = gone.

by shep615 on Jan 19, 2012 5:31 PM EST reply actions 2 recs

What it means is that he was sending a text to someone on his phone and it came out as a Tweet instead.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions

He uses his phone for twitter. He probably was trying to DM (direct message) someone but put it as just a plain tweet instead.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 19, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions

Hoynes does this somewhat often, doesn’t he?

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 19, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions

Yes, and they are always hilarious to me.

by Roger Dorn on Jan 19, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions

I golf back-to-back rounds today and come home to this? Get rid of this asshole.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions

I hate you for being able to golf back-to-back rounds right now. It is effing 10 degrees outside with 4 inches of snow on the ground.

… I’m just jealous. I don’t really hate you.

by shep615 on Jan 19, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions

10 degrees! Must be nice. -17 here today with -35 wind chill.

Had to pull out the Browns hoodie today.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 19, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions

60 and sunny here in Boulder.

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by rufio on Jan 19, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions

I’ll either be in Santa Cruz or the south west starting this summer. I don’t really mind the snow, but it will be nice to not worry about scraping my windshield anymore.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Jan 20, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions

It snows in the Santa Cruz mountains. If you ever miss the snow it’s a short drive up the 17.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 20, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions

Santa Cruz is a pretty cool place. Arizona the other option?

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by rufio on Jan 20, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions

Have you ever been to The Mystery Spot?

by Brownie's Year on Jan 20, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions

No, what is it?

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by rufio on Jan 20, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions

It’s a tourist attraction (tour) in the woods a few mins North of the residential area. Supposedly the gravity is all messed up. But it’s just optical illusions.
Been there many times. We would get stoned as hell in the parking lot and take the tour.
There’s vids on you tube of the place.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 21, 2012 5:25 AM EST up reply actions

Oh I’ve heard about those things, I think there is one of those in South Dakota.

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by rufio on Jan 21, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions

KOSMOS! Sorry for the over-excitement. My mom is from eastern South Dakota. After going there for years, we finally made a family trip to the western part to see the cooler stuff. Kosmos was one of the random things we did along the way.

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by Doc's Kid on Jan 23, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions

Do they do the thing with the railing and the ball? And you watch it roll up the rail? Fake.

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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 21, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions

Of course it’s fake. Mind tricks.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 21, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions

They hire jedis as tour guides.

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by Adrock2099 on Jan 21, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions

Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas

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by notthatnoise on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions

Where in AZ? I lived in the Phoenix area for 4 years. Its beautiful

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 21, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions

Tuscon.

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by notthatnoise on Jan 21, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions

Would definitely go to UA over ASU.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 21, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions

ASU is a sweet party school but thats about it. I lived down the street from the school and the area is pretty fun. But I would have gotten 0 work done if I had gone there.

Tuscon isnt bad. Has some gang issues in areas but not overly terrible.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 21, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions

Tosh.0 told me all I needed to know about ASU.

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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 22, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions

I cant stand that show. Something about that guy just rubs me the wrong way.

by Justin Kowalczyk on Jan 22, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions

I like how he just straight up told the one girl that she had big boobs for her size. She acted like she never heard that before, which has to be a lie.

I should have made my screen name DerekAndersonIsMyBrother

by Doc's Kid on Jan 23, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions

I liked it when he told the one girl that he wouldn’t sleep with her and that she probably had an STD.

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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 23, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions

I liked the 2 girls that were dancing around the crappy rapper.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 23, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions

She looked dirty!

I should have made my screen name DerekAndersonIsMyBrother

by Doc's Kid on Jan 24, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions

out west you can always pretty easily get to snow, as BY points out. i find that i rarely if ever miss it. 6 years in socal and my blood has thinned out so entirely it’s amazing. i’m one of the biggest weather wimps you’ve ever met now, even after 18 years on the east side of cleveland.

you’ll love the weather.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 20, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions

Not sure if you can see it where you’re at, but the San Jacinto Mts get hammered. Had good views of them in Murrieta. Great view from the lab I worked in in Perris.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 20, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions

i live on the west side of LA, so i’ve got great mountain views looking back east. also spend a decent amount of time out in the palm springs area, which is pretty great.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 20, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions

Only been on that side a few times. My sis used to live in Indio and Palm Desert. So yeah, that area runs along those Mtns. You’ve seen it then.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 20, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions

you ever take the gondola up to the top of the mountains in palm springs? pretty cool … snow caps when it’s like 12,000 degrees on the ground.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions

Never done that. You’re right though. The tips stay cold forever. There’s this one area that has a huge vertical ice slab throughout the year. On the way to Joshua Tree one summer I saw it there in 110 degree heat.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 21, 2012 5:27 AM EST up reply actions

Is this Celsius?

We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.

by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 19, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions

Nope.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 20, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions

I thought you were like in Georgia or something…

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by bross09 on Jan 20, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions

Used to, live in Minnesota now.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions

ah…yeah, minny winters can be a bitch. I had a friend who went to college there last year.

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by bross09 on Jan 20, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions

It’s 25 and snowing here. You made me want to cry.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Jan 19, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions

Believe me, I’d rather be in Ohio.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 20, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions

What I noticed is in the message in question was posted via txt. I’m not sure how twitter works for posting messages, but my guess is that he meant to text someone that privately, and the truth was broadcast by his own mistake.

by OSUMoneyball on Jan 19, 2012 9:28 PM EST reply actions

my guess is that he meant to text someone that privately, and the truth was broadcast by his own mistake.

That’s an interesting possibility. I think it would depend on his phone and what apps he’s using. I’m not sure on it’s likelihood, but it’s definitely not impossible. In any case, I’m glad he let his true feelings be known.

"The tragedy of life is not that man loses, but that he almost wins."

by Simmsinns on Jan 19, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions