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The Sunday Five: Childress on Board, and the Manning-Irsay Relationship

"The Sunday Five" is a loosely-titled piece where I talk about five NFL- or Browns-related topics related to this past week. In today's edition, we'll take a look at the hiring of Brad Childress again, what has been going on in Indianapolis, the Pro Bowl tonight, and more.

Bullet_mediumTerry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain Dealer spent a great deal of his Sunday column reviewing the hiring of Brad Childress as the Browns' offensive coordinator. Childress didn't have the greatest reputation in Minnesota, but Pluto explains why that shouldn't be a concern:

Start with the job -- offensive coordinator. It's not running the team, making trades, or dealing with off-the-field issues. It's purely coaching football, the offense.

As Pluto points out, in Childress' first four seasons as the Vikings' head coach, they ranked 23rd, 13th, 17th, and 5th. That's not bad for a guy who was juggling more than he could handle. The team's best ranking obviously came in Brett Favre's first year, but prior to that, there were a couple of good seasons without a stellar quarterback under center. Adrian Peterson helped matters, but Cleveland has a chance to add a big playmaker right off the bat in April too.

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Bullet_mediumThe local media had a major impact during the Browns' 2011-2012 season, often seeming as though they had an agenda to paint the team in a negative light. Everything came full circle this past week when the Plain Dealer's Tony Grossi was removed from the Browns Beat after a tweet he made regarding team owner Randy Lerner. I believe the reports that say the Browns organization had nothing to do with Grossi's removal. The Plain Dealer explained their reasoning well. We still don't know exactly what his new role will be, but he was re-assigned in the sports department. I try to hold a neutral opinion of the local media, because I'm not interested in burning bridges in the event that any future correspondences are necessary. That doesn't prevent you guys from speaking out, something the DBN members had no qualms about doing.

Bullet_medium"Peyton Manning is done in Indianapolis." The media is saying the writing is on the wall, despite Jim Irsay and Manning having a statement released that their relationship is fine. Irsay has ripped apart the entire organization from top to bottom, and the only person that remains is Manning. Is his future in Indianapolis in doubt because Irsay wants to capitalize on the opportunity to re-build with Andrew Luck? I still find it hard to believe that Irsay would give away the best quarterback (in my opinion) of this era. We know that the whole reason for the Colts' success in recent memory has been because of Manning; everyone else was replaceable. I think that Irsay realized that after this past season. So, what does he do? He guts everyone and tries to put a structure in place, something that will be stable once Luck takes over for Manning in a couple of years.

Bullet_mediumThe Pro Bowl is tonight on NBC. It will be a four-hour program from 7:00 PM to 11:00 PM EST, and the only representative from the Browns will be left tackle Joe Thomas. We all know this will be an excruciatingly boring game, but some of us will still put ourselves through the misery of watching it because it's NFL-related. It's too bad we can't see center Alex Mack scoring a touchdown on a lateral to end the game like last year, unless Thomas tries to improvise this time around.

Bullet_mediumI've received quite a few people with interest in the social media positions to assist DBN. I will try to contact several people early this week to get them set up, so our presence on Twitter and Facebook should be expanded. If you're not following us on those services yet, feel free to add us today!

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Re: Peyton Manning. I was watching a video of a NBC talking head and he offered up an interesting scenario. What if Andrew Luck takes in all the messiness in Indy and decides he does not want any part of it? Especially if Irsay screws Manning out of the $28 million due him. Wouldn’t that throw the draft into chaos? Hehe, one can only hope.

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war

by Kaner on Jan 29, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Why the colts hate?

just curious

....just need a guy called Byner to play RT...

by LondonBrown on Jan 29, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not Colt’s hate, I suppose it’s Irsay hate. I get the feeling that he’s doing a bit of a hatchet job on Manning. That way he can point to Manning and say "It’s all about the Horseshoe and Peyton is dissing it. Well let’s face it, Irsay as the owner IS the Horseshoe. Plus I suppose there is still some residual distaste for an organization that moves from one city to another under the cover of darkness. Other than that, I’m kind of interested in seeing what kind of ramifications there might be if Luck did decide to say “no way” to the Colts.

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war

by Kaner on Jan 29, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

With you on the Colts move. Though I recall the people of Baltimore were gracious when Modell puled his shit as they’d felt the pain a decade before, which is why I cant muster much hate for the Ravens.

....just need a guy called Byner to play RT...

by LondonBrown on Jan 29, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We must have talked to completely different Ravens fans.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 30, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Why do you think they are screwing him out of $28 million? It is a contract option that would be absolutely foolish to pick up. Peyton had some serious surgeries and it just doesnt make business sense for the Colts to pick up the option. Its just business – not personal.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Jan 30, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d gamble $28 mil on the best QB in the league (suck on it Brady fans).

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 30, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Seeing the difference in the Colts this year it is hard to argue that he is just a fantastic QB. But that is a heckuva gamble considering you are going to shell out another $30 million on Luck. Those were nasty surgeries – he could be done.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Jan 30, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

$30 mil total maybe, but that will be spread out over 4 or 5 seasons. It’s not like they’ll take a $60 mil cap hit just on QBs this season.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Jan 30, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s still a heck of a gamble. Irsay said yesterday that it’s not about the money it’s about Manning’s health. He doesn’t want to see Manning carted off the field paralyzed. I think Irsay is going to try to talk Manning into retirement and offer him a position in the Colts front office. It would stink to see one of the all time great guys in the NFL go out because of an injury but it would almost be a crime to see Peyton playing in Seattle or Miami.

by PaduaDSP on Jan 30, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not? If the Colts don’t sneak out of Baltimore, the Ravens never exist and maybe we’re not rebuilding an expansion team.

Plus the Irsays are generally crap owners and if they never draft P. Manning they would still suck.

by HenryDawg on Jan 29, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If Irsay just lets Peyton Manning go like that…

I don’t know, I just don’t think that’s the way to treat your first-ballot, “might be the best of all time” player. Owners ask for player loyalty all the time, and if the owners can’t even be loyal to a guy like Peyton Manning…that’s just not right.

Peyton has done nothing but work his tail off to win in Indy and make everyone around him 1,000x better than they were before he was there. He’s stayed out of trouble, he’s gone and got stem cell injections just for a chance to play again, and he’s been a positive influence on everything and everyone he’s been around.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 29, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I still find it hard to believe that Irsay would give away the best quarterback (in my opinion) of this era.

He has no choice. There is a 28 million dollar bonus due on March 3 and he can’t trade him until March 8. Thus, a decision has to be made before a trade. And the cap hit takes effect, apparently, even if you do trade him. Unless Peyton agrees to move back the bonus, which there really is no good reason for doing, Irsay has to cut him.

Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 29, 2012 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

They have to let him go – but I do believe they still have the right to sign him as a UFA. That would be the best move. I am sure Peyton realizes he is damaged goods and is not going to get that $28 million. I am sure he can get an incentive based deal that can keep him off of food stamps.

Change isn't good or bad it just "is". Don Draper of Madmen

by realmccoy on Jan 30, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Peter King thinks Manning is going to retire outright.

by Brownie's Year on Jan 29, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Depending on how his neck is doing it might not be a terrible idea. It would suck to see him go out like that but if he’s going to have to face possible paralysis every time he drops back and if he’s doing it after everything he helped build with the Colts is torn down…it would be tough to stand tall in the pocket.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Jan 29, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It would not surprise me at all. I am wondering, though, how much Manning was counting on that big fat bonus payment.

by JamesPowell on Jan 29, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

What? Did he piss away all of the Sony money already?

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
— Winston S. Churchill
I have the best wife - ever.

by JustBob on Jan 30, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you think he’s doing Papa John’s commercial?

XBL - TheRabbit087. Get at me.

by SpecialBrownie on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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