Our second first round pick
by qix on Jan 4, 2012 11:41 AM EST
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Does anyone here agree that we have almost ensured that our #4 pick will be Griffin or Blackmon? Colts will go with Luck, everything we need to happen is either the Rams or the Vikes taking Kalil (very possible). Then it doesn't matter if someone jumps for RGIII, we get Blackmon (win-win).
Without breaking the bank, we would be in great position to fill with great talent some other needs at offense.
So, what you guys do pick with our second first (by now, 23rd)? I think we should take an OT (Jonathan Martin/Levi Adcock) or even a guard (DeCastro). On 2nd or even 3rd round we could select a solid RB (LaMichael James/Chris Polk/Jeremy Stewart).
Thoughts?
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Burflict, I’ve said a hundred times. We can build a behavioral clause in his contract. I don’t want him going to the Ravens or Steelers.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions
The major problem with Burfict is his work ethic. Even his coaches called him out for not giving it his all. I want no part of a guy who may quit at any given point in a game.
I don’t want him going to the Ravens or Steelers.
I’m probably misinterpreting this, but are you suggesting drafting a player so that he doesn’t go to our rivals?
Nope, don’t misinterpret. That is exactly what i’m saying. We need a run stop guy. However the FO wants to structure his contract to get his motor on high at all times, I’m down.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Fine. I’m still not on board. But leave the part about him going to the Ravens or the Steelers out of it. If trying to keep said player off a rival team is a motivating factor, then whoever is drafting is on a quick trip to nowhere. You draft the guy because you like him as a player and believe he has potential.
He has a shitload of potential.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Where would he play in this defense? I am assuming that DQ will be back.
The guy is a hot head who clashes with team mates and coaches. He can’t stay on the field because he can’t stop making dumb decisions. No thanks.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 4, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
He will eventually grow up like you and me. He can play Middle. Jackson and Gocong outside.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I actually like that he plays his hunches. In a couple years they might be 90% right.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
You’re awful certain that a child will mature.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I did.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Good for you. What does that have to do with anyone else?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Nothing to do with you apparently. I just like the kid.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Why? Why do you believe he will change his attitude? Many people don’t.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
NFL money…Having to perform a certain way to get his paycheck.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t stop a lot of guys. Mike Vick was making way more money and had way more expectations than this kid. Same for Ben Roethlisberger. Suh is going to get himself suspended every year and he was a #2 overall pick.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I would gladly have Suh on this team with Burflict. What does Mike Vick have to do with Burflict? Roethlisburger is a scumbag. That’s exactly why I want those 2 guys.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously we can’t have Suh though.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
You said money and responsibility changes people. Obviously it doesn’t. Mike Vick had tons of both and he still ran a dogfighting ring and got caught with pot. Ben Roethlisberger has tons of both and still rapes women.
You can’t just assume people will change. A lot of times they don’t. Burflict may indeed mature, I’m not saying he can’t or that it’s even unlikely. I just want to know what makes you so sure he will.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I’m not looking at his maturity, I’m looking at a player who can be what we lack. A beast.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’ll really fit with the type of locker room they’re trying to build. I could see him being more drama problems.
It’s been working out ok in Detroit.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
That’s because Jim Schwartz has always had dirty players, even when he was in Tennessee. I don’t think the current guys need them to be choir boys or anything but I also don’t think they want a cohesive locker room. If this guy is a problem with coachs and other players that’s like a cancer.
OK, great then. NM. Let’s just continue to be the browns.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
You really think Vontaze Burflict is the player that’s going to transform the Browns from perennial losers to Super Bowl champs?
Okaaay, but his own team had to bench him because of discipline problems. Can he grow out of them? Maybe, but I’ld rather not take that gamble.
I think he has the ability to be one of them. Yes.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Drafting a kid that has on, and off, the field anger issues isn’t going to help us win games.
Plus, he is a LB that doesn’t rush the passer.
2nd rounder at best, and I wouldn’t even use that. I have a feeling he is going to drop in the draft after interviews. Dennis Erickson, a guy who had all sorts of turds at Miami, couldn’t stand the kid. There is a major problem here.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
We need a run stopper. Our new DE is going to rush the passer. I don’t care if his stock skyrockets or tanks.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
They passed on Rey Malaluga because of their concers. Can you say that you dont want him on this team? I do he has had his problems but nothing i would pass him up over.
we are all Kipnises...
They passed on Rey Malaluga because of their concers.
But we got David Veikune instead. Checkmate!
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
We got Brian Robiskie, I think. I’m not sure because I didn’t get to see him on the field.
by BuenosAires_Dawg on Jan 8, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
But you were looking at his maturity.
He will eventually grow upI ask again, plenty of players never grow up. What makes you think he will?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 7, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
In my opinion, I think the kid might take 2 years to mature. Buys momma a house, feeds some cousins, then realizes he’s got payments to make and he can’t keep screwing up.. He grows up. I love to watch this kid run and gun. Super aggressive motor.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
In my opinion, I think the kid might take 2 years to mature.
I’ll ask again, WHY? Why do you believe this? What evidence do you have? Is this just a gut feeling?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I clearly said “opinion”.
We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.
by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 8, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
BTW, I said nothing of the sort about money and responsibility. I said he needs a clause in his contract to not get OOB.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
You said all of that. And then above when you said you “never said he’d mature”, you said that too. You lost the argument, your idea was bad. Move on.
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by SpecialBrownie on Jan 4, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll move on to my wife over there. just outta the shower.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yikes.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 5, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
No yikes, she’s a great woman. I love your PSH av though.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 5, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
i like luke kuchely, and he can do something that fujita hasnt been able to do when he is on the field, tackle consistently. we need more guys with athletisicism and the ability to tackle someone on a regular basis. fujita in my opinion is on the wrong side of a down career. he would be good as an experienced mentor
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by findlaybrownslover on Jan 5, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
He’s good but this post deals with second pick availability.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 5, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
whi h is why i mentioned him, he could be available when are second pick comes around. why would you think he wouldnt?
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by findlaybrownslover on Jan 6, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you about him. He’s projected as the best LB out there though. That just leads me to doubt his availability at our second pick.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 6, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
i think he slips and other teams take chances on players that they reach for, kind of like the qb run last year that pushed some bigger prospects down the board. havent seen too much of brown, i know he plays for nc but havent really seen him. maybe go db help and take a look at frankie’s boy, chase minnifield.
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by findlaybrownslover on Jan 6, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
NFL money…Having to perform a certain way to get his paycheck.
So this quote has nothing to do with money or responsibility?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 7, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how this kids going to act anymore than we know RG3 is gonna save us. What I can speak for is his play on the field. He’s a solid tackler, maybe the best in the draft. He plays the mike and we give up alot yards on the ground. I like him.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Beyond that, I said take a chance but build in a behavior clause to maximize reward and minimize risk.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how this kids going to act anymore than we know RG3 is gonna save us.
But you claimed you did. If you had said it was a huge risk from the start we wouldn’t be having this argument. You have presented his maturing as a foregone conclusion.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
My very first comment on this post states we could build a behavioral clause in his contract. I have a “gut feeling” he will be fine. Parlay.
We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.
by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 8, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Gerard. Warren.
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by bross09 on Jan 5, 2012 4:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Why the “heck” can’t we take a chance on him?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
If he falls to the 3rd, which he won’t, then I’d be ok. But not any higher than that. At some point, his talent and potential outweighs the risk. That’s 3rd round for me.
THIS KID IS A MONSTER. Good or bad. Watch him tackle.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
He has no remorse and he doesn’t miss.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 5, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
No one is questioning what he can do when he wants to behave.
The problem with the kid is that he has never followed rules, listened to coaches, or gotten along with team mates.
Waaaaay to many red flags for a high draft pick.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I understand the risks. But you can also look at this like he’s the best linebacker in the draft. The behavior drags him down, I know. He could be number 1 overall if he didn’t have anger issues. I’ll take that flyer.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 6, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t take fliers in the first round. That is a 3rd-7th round thing.
You have to make your first and second round picks count.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 6, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I haven’t seen someone tackle like this kid since Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence effin Taylor.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 6, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
P.S. thanks boss. You straightened me out. Now I know how I am not smart or even worthy. One time a guy gives you crap……delete this too.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 6, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t agree with your point. Nothing else. No need to be so sensitive.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 6, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it gets thick in here with sensitivity, more condescension.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Your comment was deleted for profanity. No need to take it personally.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 7, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t, I responded with ‘heck". And I wasn’t talking about that comment.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
what did I do?
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LOL….I said boss…If I love anyone on here, it’s you. Happy B-day.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was drunk, I couldn’t read. Sorry.
I can tell by the timestamp I had like 3 beers and was working on a 7 and 7 then.
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Never be sorry for being drunk, only what you might have done in that state of mind.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 8, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I have been told I touched someone’s penis, but only buy said person and a notorious liar.
I dunno if gay stuff that isn’t like rape or anything is something you don’t have to be sorry for.
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Just feel comfortable with what’s in your heart. And slow down on the drinking.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 9, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
what is in my heart is generally not gay…not that there’s anything wrong with that. Like I said, the person is often a liar so probably not true.
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Well, whether you did or didn’t, i’m just saying, be happy with who you are. Don’t let anybody else fuck that up or make you second guess yourself. The ability to love starts in yourself. You will find out who you are in life and one person needs to be ok with…you. The rest will come.
We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.
by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 9, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
I am definitely happy with who I am…except I am trying to get a little slimmer.
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Just go easy on the twitter…
That was my understanding.
by burntorangeandbrown on Jan 9, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
haha wait till it takes you 10+ beers to get drunk.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
I used to be like that, then I lost 45 pounds.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I never approved this message.
We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.
by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 9, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
You are also forgetting being waaaay out of position as WR’s run right by you.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jan 9, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, RB could be a possibility with our 3rd. I’d use our 2nd on a stud DE
by qix on Jan 4, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Not that you need my validation, but still . . .
by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Jan 4, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Any validation helps. It keeps me from looking like a complete idiot.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 4, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I console myself with my understanding that I am a complete idiot. There fore, I require no validation. Winning.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 6, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you have a problem email a mod.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 7, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I just thought it was a funny, thought provoking bit of wit and sarcasm. It was only based on what Brownie’s year said and I also threw in the creepy bit of Charlie Sheen. I have have a serious problem with anything, I will e-mail you personally. You’ll be my go-to Mod. :-)
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
don’t worry about it. most everyone here has had a comment they liked deleted and gone on a long tangent on a point like you did. you have passed the initiation process
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I’m in?!!!
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, thanks. I still think we’ll be kicking ourselves if another team in the AFC North gets Vontaze Burflict.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I swear, I will use this as my sig for the next 2 years if I live that long.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Like this.
We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.
by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Good or bad, I made the argument, I will live with it.
We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.
by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 7, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I think you are missing the joke that your signature line now is — it used to be my signature line with a link to this article.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 8, 2012 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
I do recall. I watched and contributed under a different name.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 8, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’m looking for a mean run stopping LB at this pick, although I wouldn’t be mad at a DE who was a sacking machine.
I’m just going off the scenario above (Blackmon taken first). My thoughts would change if we grabbed someone else at #4.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 4, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
if we’re going to be getting QBOF this draft …our other first rounder pick — if we have are able to keep it —should be OL. if we get blackmon instead, i agree with a defensive pick although i’d prefer LB or S (I like Barron) to help against the run.
November 6, 1995 is unforgiveable.
I’m fine with LB in the 2nd. We can get a good player there.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 4, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
My hopes and semi-realistic dreams for this draft:
1st 1st pick: RG3
2nd 1st pick: BPA who happens to be a legit #1 receiver
2nd pick: BPA who happens to be a LB or DE
3rd pick: BPA who happens to be an OT
"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson
Read my mind exactly. This would instantly get an A+ draft. I also want money SPENT this year in FA. What we holding it for?
My gut tells me that we get a big name player this year.
by Brownie's Year on Jan 4, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think they want to spend most of their cap on players who have proven themselves while they’re playing for the Browns. You can’t blame them, throwing around FA money almost never pays off, but paying your own guys well is good policy and provides good motivation for the younger guys.
Despite that I think they’ll be more aggressive this year.
With some exceptions of course. We don’t need a center. We don’t need a middle linebacker. We’re pretty set at DT.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I bet Bernie was thinking those exceptions…
AND HOW COULD YOU FORGET JOE THOmAS
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We could draft a Tackle but it would have to be a Right Tackle. Our Left Tackle has paid half of his ticket to Canton.
by BrownsFanRegina on Jan 6, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
We still need a tackle, just not one on the left side.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 7, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
This is the third time i am typing this. I didnt think what i was thinking was so outrageous that it would get clipped twice, but here i go again. After we address the QB in FA, I believe we should go after weapons for him. I think that we should go after Richardson with the number 4. Here me out. I like Blackmon, but I think we need a running game more. I dont think Hillis will return, and we need to fil his spot with a stud. Blackmon is a stud, but I like Alshon Jeffery too. I think we go with him in our 2nd number 1. Two weapons that dramatically improve our team. I like RG3 but i havent seen enough of him to grab him with the 4. Plus H+H dont seem to like him, he isnt what they are looking for (pocket passer).
What do you think of us going after Mario Williams for a DE? I think that he is a FA and that he is Unhappu at OLB .
Be gentile with your responses…
we are all Kipnises...
If people don’t listen to what you say, why type something 3 times?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nice
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 4, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think you’re wrong that H&H wouldn’t want him. He’s a lot like like Brett Favre or Steve Young, 2 Holmgren coached teams. Heckert and Shurmur had McNabb in Philly. All three of these players are all know for their big arms, but they can run out of the pocket if and when they need to. When they asked Shurmur about him it was the most happiest I’ve seen him all year. I think he got a little wood.
Mario is a STUD.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I would love Mario Williams.
Yeah, I’d love Drew Brees too. We have just as much a chance of getting Brees as we do getting Williams, without giving up a huge amount in a trade. Even if he is a free agent, they would franchise him and, if he wanted out of Houston, they would trade him. You don’t let a guy like Mario Williams walk.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 5, 2012 2:07 AM EST up reply actions
There is so much wrong with what you say here. You say you like RG3 but haven’t seen enough of him. Then you say H and H don’t seem to like him. I’d like to see your source of that. You then go on to say he’s not a pocket passer, after admitting you really haven’t seen enough of him? If there is one thing we agree on, it’s Alshon Jeffery. I think that guy is gonna be a stud.
when i say he wouldnt fit, i say that because from what i have seen when RG3 moves from the pocket he looks to run first rather shift to extend the play.
we are all Kipnises...
That’s not what most people have seen. According to most people who have spent a decent amount of time watching him or his tape (I’m not one of them, but I’ve watched a few games this year) he looks to pass first, adjusts second and runs if he has to.
Even in the Alamo Bowl there were several plays where he shifted in the pocket, could have run and then dumped off to an outlet. BTW, I have no problem with a QB who can pick up 20 yards on a busted play on 3rd and 15. That is just completely frustrating for the other team when they have it defensed perfectly and then the guy pulls a first down out of his butt. I remember Elway doing that all the time and it drove me nuts.
Well, according to talk radio all afternoon, trading it in a package for Peyton Manning is a not too unreasonable possibility. If I can find a link, maybe I’ll post a Fanshot.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
Luke Kuechly but I don’t see him falling that far. We would probably have to trade up.
Dont’a Hightower would be a good pick here as we have LB needs
Sam Montgomery wouldn’t hurt my feelings as our pick here either
Nick Foles possibly. I’m not sure if I would like him here though. Probably a better 2nd round selection or wait on Case Keenum possibly in the 3rd round.
Zebrie Sanders would be a good upgrade to the O-line
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