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Around SBN: Trent Richardson Interviews Fellow Brown Brandon Weeden

A good and interesting article about the owner of the Cleveland Browns from what I assume is the web version of Scene magazine.

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Just finished it. It answers a lot of the questions/ideas we’ve had recently regarding playing in London and uniform changes.

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by Adrock2099 on Feb 1, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions  

Great article. I feel a lot better about him now than I have in the past.

Also, happy to hear this:

He says he’s taking the “AL” uniform tribute to his dad off the jerseys after next season. “It will have been ten years.”

I think that time has come.

Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 1, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for posting, a very interesting man and I’m glad he’s the Browns owner.

by HenryDawg on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

This had come up in conversation in another thread. It turns out I was correct in what I thought I’d heard.

Lerner announced over the summer that he would be making a permanent home in the land of his birth. His son Max had enrolled at St. Ignatius High School, so Lerner set up shop on the West Side for full-time Dad duty.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 1, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Article was really well done.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 1, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

That was a great article. Always liked Randy and I like him more. Never knew he took in so much from us Browns fans. Article definitely makes me feel like he cares.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 1, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

The classiest part of the whole thing is, that he believes its an HONOR to be able to be the “Caretaker” of this very proud organization. The Holmgren hire, whenit happened made total sense to me. I knew nothing about Heckert at the time, though now I do. Whatever these guys do, we can believe they want to win. BTW, didn’t AV just kick the crap out of Arsenal? Yes, I watch the English soccer League, I have for many years.

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by J. W. on Feb 1, 2012 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

It would be awesome if we could get Randy to do an interview for the DBN site….

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by J. W. on Feb 1, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

We really need to show Randy some more love in this town. He has never hesitated to make the moves needed to make this team better (even though none of them have worked) no matter what it cost him. He was in over his head at first but I think he seems to have a better handle on things now and moving back to town is a huge step in the right direction for all of us.

by GrillGuy on Feb 2, 2012 5:24 AM EST reply actions  

Lerner, in those few interviews he’s done over the years, mentions the position often, emphasizing his belief that the quarterback is the keystone of a football team — a role that, unless settled, derails any chances of winning.

Maybe a clue as to our pick this year….

“It’s an intangible but worthwhile thing you do over there,” he says. “Just talking to them. Letting them know you care. Distracting them from whatever hell they’re going through. I really like going over there,” he says. “You get a better sense of what matters and what doesn’t.”

Lots of respect for the man on his support of our troops.

“They said when they started it was a three-to-five-year plan,” Lerner says. “Mike said, ’Here’s how long it’s going to take to do this right,’ and I said OK.”

I sincerely hope that those people who keep griping about wanting to win now and calling for heads to roll read this part…twice.

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Feb 2, 2012 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

The problem with that 3 to year plan is that it is now a 5 to 7 year plan. The last 2 years were a waste of time for the entire organization.

by GrillGuy on Feb 2, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

This isn’t really true at all. Sure, maybe you can say Mangini’s year was a wasted one but we still brought in personnel that will be part of the process and the higher ups had that year to evaluate who to keep and who to ditch. Last season was definitely not a wasted year.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 2, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree. Even though the record doesn’t show it, I believe this is a much more talented team than we had two years ago.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 2, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with your assessment. And I think that team was better than it’s record indicated.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 2, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely more talent, coaching I would have to give the 2009 team though. They outplayed their talent level down the stretch by a lot.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 2, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s true, but I’m forcing myself to believe that Shurmur will improve.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Feb 2, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither team has a QB yet.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 3, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

They’re at least as good except those guys are, at best, on the down-slope of their careers while our guys this year are all just getting started.

by HenryDawg on Feb 2, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, that’s what happens when you start a complete tear down of the roster versus being 2-3 years into one.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 3, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s OK, I plan on living another 5-7 years if that’s what it takes. Plus even if he retires afterwards, Heckert and Shurmur are young and can continue what they built.

by HenryDawg on Feb 2, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Why was the last 2yrs a waste of time?

"They kept throwing it at me. I don’t know why. They just kept trying, and I just kept knocking it down." -- Joe Haden

by Kimble_79 on Feb 2, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Waiting to see if Mangini panned out did not allow them to begin building the team they knew they were going to have to build eventually. I think that is why we had a mainly defensive draft. Then we lost year 2 because of the strike no FA’s and the rookies (and Colt) did not seem grasp the system until the last few games. The lack of FA’s really set us back depth wise.

Holmgren himself said he believed that this was going to be a .500 team, now .500 has to wait until next year. If you really think we are ready to win 9 or 10 games at this point you are fooling yourself and we will need at least 1 or 2 more wins then that just to contend for our division.

by GrillGuy on Feb 2, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the defense showed us last year wasn’t a waste. Lots of young players made contributions last year, even on offense. It’s hard to see because the record sucks, but I really think the team took a step in the right direction.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Feb 2, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Except that we built the core of our young defense while Mangini was here and installed the offense the next year. All the while we have yet to actually draft to set up for the offense so I’m still not seeing how we wasted two years. Also, it was an owner imposed lockout, not a player strike. There’s a pretty big difference.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 2, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn’t a waste, just a necessary clean up and tear down. It had to happen unfortunately and that meant a year or 2 of horrific pain.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 3, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Amazing how much this one article blows so many years of assumptions by many right out of the water.
I know I certainly feel a whole lot better about our “Absentee Owner” after reading this.

I also love the fact that a rag like the Scene scores this kind of interview while Grossi is over at the P.D. squirming in his seat and losing his H.O.F. vote. What a kick in the ’nads it must be to read this after covering the team for 27 years and never getting this kind of access.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Feb 2, 2012 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

They weren’t even really interviews. They were just Lerner inviting the guy over to hang out.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 2, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Even better.

What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?

by DaveDawg09 on Feb 2, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually like that format even better. I think it gives you a better feel for the man than sitting down for an hour and asking some questions.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 2, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

You have to be creative to get time with the guy, it appears. The PD didn’t understand that.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 2, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s still an interview and interview style. The informality of the style and interview plays well to paint the picture they painted of Lerner. A “formal interview” wouldn’t have worked as well imo.

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by bross09 on Feb 2, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He has opinions, sure, and he bounces them off his staff, sometimes to deaf ears in past years. (Browns fans: Would you have preferred Drew Brees over Derek Anderson?)

This made me sad to read. I’m pretty sure it’s meant to imply Lerner wanted Brees.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Feb 2, 2012 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

This whole piece was fantastic. Very good work.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Feb 2, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That is the one folly of playing this waiting game with guys. The Browns have seemed to hit the wrong year in every cycle about seeing what they have in guy X. Whether it’s DA, Quinn or Colt getting a shot, we are missing out in certain year on viable QBs because we feel like we need to give these guys their chance.

In retrospect should the Browns have considered giving up significant draft picks to try and trade up with Carolina for Cam Netwon? That thought never even entered our minds because we felt like Colt deserved his chance.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 2, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I still wouldn’t have traded up to draft Newton.

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by rufio on Feb 2, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t read that much into it, I think Lerner just knows we need a QB to be successful. We’ve always had some measure of success when our QB played well.

by HenryDawg on Feb 2, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i know a single article won’t change the minds of the truly committed, but that piece just reinforces my belief that anyone who thinks the problem with the cleveland browns is the owner is completely nuts.

by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 2, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

In related news… I WANT TO SEE THAT WHITE HELMET.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 3, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

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