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Last year I made a comment about how we all should be more positive towards the team. It came off sort of hippy dippy and that's not how I meant it. This article does a better job of explaining what I was trying to say through the prism of Quincy Morgan. The premise, in a nutshell, is why would anyone want to play hard for some of our fans. Not all of them, but the cleveland.com types who run every player, coach and executive into the ground. While we may think we should be allowed to treat the millionaires any way we want, that they do hear the voice of the fan and it does affect them.

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Through the prism of Quincy Morgan? Please do explain.

by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Feb 2, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

I guess the author had made some snide remarks about Morgan over a period of time and he finally got sick of it and wrote the guy and said he didn’t appreciate it, that he had a hard time in Cleveland with the fans sometimes and that it affected him with the way he was treated at times. But the overall take away was that when he felt like the fans supported him, he was more relaxed and played better. Now I think there’s an obvious correlation between winning and fan behavior, but he also poses the question that maybe we would win more if we weren’t always on the backs of the coaches and players for every bad season. I’m sure you’ve read the criticism of Shurmur here and on other sites, some of its pretty hateful. I don’t think Shurmur reads this stuff directly but the overall atmosphere, conveyed in part because of blogs, comments, media, etc. is not one that’s conducive to winning.

by HenryDawg on Feb 2, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Jesus I feel dumb. I didnt even click through. Sorry bout that HD.

by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Feb 2, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem! Thanks for reading

by HenryDawg on Feb 2, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone forgot about Morgan’s drops once Braylon started dropping balls.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 2, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

exactly…except for this writer I guess. This feels so dated I went to the bottom to check the date to make sure this wasn’t from 2007.

I teach good life choices. That's why I almost didn't graduate high school.

by bross09 on Feb 2, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That was an interesting read. It is amazing how skewed a players perspective can become. Since the Browns have been back it seems only a few players (Cribbs and Haden) “get it”. By this I mean if you embrace this town we will embrace you back.

As much as I love Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson there is no emotional connection for me with either. With Cribbs and Haden being seen around town doing “normal” things without their entourages even in the off season. We embrace them not just for being good players because they embrace our town. Hanford had an interview last year where he said the same thing. Its harder to be tough on a guy who you really like yet easy to complain about a guy who is just here for the paycheck.

by GrillGuy on Feb 3, 2012 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

As much as I love Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson there is no emotional connection for me

However, there is now likely to be a physical connection between you and Joe Thomas, one that will result in your syrupy demise.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Feb 3, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Cribbs and Haden are also good. This doesn’t work for guys who aren’t good, or even guys who aren’t great.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Feb 3, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Is writer basically suggesting we’d have better team of the fans applied Stuart Smalley-esque logic that our stone hearts lead to Quincy’s stone hands?

I’d like to introduce the writer to the Casual fallacy.

by ouched on Feb 3, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Or causal… stupid me commenting on a mobile device

by ouched on Feb 3, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he did a good job explaining how the negative atmosphere affected his playing and attitude.

by HenryDawg on Feb 3, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice read and good point. (btw, I’d take Morgan back. The gloves are much stickier now.)

We'll be kicking ourselves if we don't get Burflict.

by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 3, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

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