The Manning Saga (Lets make a Deal!)
by 27BUCKEYE27 on Feb 3, 2012 6:34 AM EST
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PrintPeyton Manning has been cleared to play and most seem to think that he has 3-5 good years left in the NFL. It seems to be an overwhelming understanding that Andrew Luck is a cant miss, future star, best QB to come out in the last 10 years. My view: I AGREE 110%. Call me a dreamer and say there is no way this will happen, but I would do whatever it takes to get him. Everyone has a price and the Colts are in need of a lot of help and could use the picks. I give the Colts Picks 4, 22, 37, and 1st round pick next year. They may be willing to do this with the thought of still possibly getting RG3 with the #4 pick. Yes this is a lot, but I make up the difference in free agency. This guy can take the Browns over the top! Please don't tear me a part its just my opinion.
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Have any of you who would give both testicles for Luck while balking at cutting a fingernail for Griffin actually watched either of them play?
I have and I honestly wasn’t really impressed by either of them.
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." -Paul Brown
by macdowellm03 on Feb 3, 2012 1:38 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
You have very high standards.
"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson
I must have been watching bad spots in their games, because I didn’t see any great passes, like fitting it in to a window, or any good deep balls. I saw some average passes and a couple of misses. But I saw some great highlights later.
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." -Paul Brown
I think RG3 has all the talent it takes to make a great NFL QB, but my concern is will be be able to read defense and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage when rarely he had to do so in college. His durability also is a concern as he missed nearly the entire 2009 season with a knee injury. Although he has great speed and moves if he runs like that in the NFL he wont last long.
If all we needed was a QB to be a great team I might agree. Maybe. Unfortunately, that is nowhere near the case.
What does that MEAN - TO PLAY US OUT?!!?!?
First, that’s not enough for the first pick.
Second, no one is trading for Peyton Manning so it’s moot. His money is due before he can be traded. He’ll be cut.
Steel Nick
It’s my understanding that the Colts were aware of Mannings medical issues when they offered the $28 million in roster bonus as part of his new, FIVE year contract. Now that he’s been cleared to play, with virtually no added risk, why would the $28 mill still be a concern? This is ‘supposedly’ a performance issue now. I don’t buy that either. This is Peyton Manning were talking about. If Peytons’ believes he can play, then I believe him. I can’t imagine Peyton coming back as a ‘lesser’ QB at the risk of tainting his legacy. I would not be the least bit surprised to see Manning back, in Indy, with or without Luck.
I think what we’re seeing is, a bunch of smoke n mirrors. If I were Irsay, I to would be bluffing on Luck also. The more serious he appears about taking Luck, the greater the trade offers become.
The concensus is that Manning is released so that the Colts can dodge the 28 million roster bonus, and Indy knows probably more keenly than anyone that the key to NFL success is having a franchise pocket passer, so trade speculation with Indy is probably moot.
I kind of hope the concensus is wrong though, because I think the draftboard chaos in the sports press that would ensue would be amusing if the Colts keep Peyton, and puts us in a prime position to bid for #1 overall, if it could be pried from Irsay’s grasp.
Manning will be cut.
Has anybody thought of the possibility that Manning will probably want the team that pursues him hardcore, to bring along some of his friends/coaches that got axed from Indy as well?
Not to mention, he’ll probably wanna call the shots offensively, how will that work with what our FO wants to do?
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I’ve considered it. I don’t think its acceptable in Berea. I also think you listed the key reasons as to why fewer teams would be interested in him. H&H aren’t going to change course all-of-a-sudden ‘just because’ the unforeseen availability of Manning may come to fruition. The McNabb rumor would make more sense. With him, H&H doesn’t need to alter their plans. Regardless of ones opinion on McNabbs current skill set,at least he would extend their current plans by ‘buying more time’ to see if McCoy progresses/ regresses and/or also continue the search for the QBOF.
I like Luck, RG3 and Manning all better than McCoy. Just don’t see our frugal front office pulling a trigger that involves massive contracts or giving away any picks. IMO they see the holes everyday, all the areas of need. I just can’t see them getting splashy in the draft or FA. This is just a feeling, but I see them taking care of the WR, OLB, DE,O-line and adding some mid to upper level free agents.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 3, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions
When I say upper, gotta fill the min cap.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 3, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Our front office has traded up early in the draft each of the last two seasons.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Wasn’t that after they had already traded down though?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 5, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
What’s your point? They traded down last year, then used some of those picks to trade up. Why wouldn’t they use those picks to trade up this year if they were willing to do it last year?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
No point other than what I posted about us having multiple areas of need. They are saying and playing frugal.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 5, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
This multiple area of need argument is getting old. They’re not going to fill all the holes this year even if they keep all their picks. They’ve even said as much – it takes 3-5 years minimum and more like 5. There will be another draft and FA period next year too, as long as we’re not trading picks in that draft, I could care less how they use the ones this year as long as they use them to get impact players.
They’re not going to fill all the holes this year even if they keep all their picks
Thank you. With that in mind, I would hope H/H recognize the value in adding a top tier talent to fewer holes as opposed to trying trying to plug as many gaps as possible in one draft.
Steel Nick
To take it a step further, to be competttive we need 2-3 elite players at QB, WR and RDE, all can be addressed to some degree in this FA/Draft. From there you’re just taking BPA regardless to build a monster and/or replace attrition.
I’m all for it if they get 2/3 impact players.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 5, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
I would like you guys to recognize something though. If we trade to a similar situation next year draft wise and get 2/3 impact players this year, is that not worth it?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
If we trade to a similar situation next year draft wise and get 2/3 impact players this year
This is impossible.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
So we got a boatload, got Taylor and got Sheard So I assume neither of them is an impact player?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
You said we could trade to a similar situation next year (aka a top five pick) and grab two to three impact players. I said that’s impossible. More to your point, Taylor is not an impact player. He likely never will be. Space eaters on the D-line just aren’t impact players. They’re solid, necessary parts of a defense, but they can’t really take over a game. Sheard is an impact player. So in the best case scenario (and last year’s trade really is the best case) we got a pick in the 20s and one impact player.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 7, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think I agree with your assessment of Taylor or DTs in general. I think it makes a huge difference, and isn’t that what we want with an “impact player”? Someone who makes a tangible difference in a team’s chances to win?
We may be spiraling down towards the semantics between an “impact player” and a “playmaker,” and I suppose that’s all subjective anyway.
Steel Nick
Mike Holmgren just called me. He was very specific that the Browns are taking Griffin at 4 but they would be trading him to Washington for Claiborne, this years 2 and next years 1 & 2. Speculation ended
This was a joke but it’s not impossible to get Claiborne, Coples, Mercilus or even Blackmon. All the while maintaining the 22 and 37 and getting another 1 n 2 next year.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a player who provides more of an impact at a more impactful position than RG3, while still being within the Browns’ reach? I don’t believe so.
And furthermore, do we know there will be a player of similar talent available to the Browns next year? We can guess, but we only know what we have this year.
There are varying levels of “impact,” but when we’re talking about getting an impact player, there is not a more important position than the one RG3 happens to play.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Feb 6, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
There are varying levels of "impact," but when we’re talking about getting an impact player, there is not a more important position than the one RG3 happens to play.
This needs to be repeated every time this discussion comes up.
Quarterback is so far and away the most important position in all of sports, let alone football, it’s almost laughable that anyone could argue differently. So excuse me if I have a hard time understanding how anyone can bypass a QB for any other position. The only way, and I mean only way, I would pass on a QB is if I already had one.
This team will continue to suck until we get a guy under center that scares opposing teams. Name me one WR that carried his team to a Super Bowl title and I will eat this keyboard.
Quarterback should be the sole focus of this team until we fix it. Period.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 6, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well you know RG3 could be the next Jamarcus Russell or Akili Smith (the fact that they have almost nothing in common is irrelevant) and we will set our franchise back 10 years (even though we’ve already sucked for the last decade and this is not even slightly true especially since the more reasonable rookie wage scale).
by HenryDawg on Feb 6, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m still confused. You said:
Just don’t see our frugal front office pulling a trigger that involves massive contracts or giving away any picks.I replied by saying we did exactly those things in each of the last two drafts. Why do you think they changed their approach this season?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Our front office has traded up early in the draft each of the last two seasons.
I’m now confused as well. Apples to oranges. You’re talking about trading very high picks on one guy. Versus lesser picks to move up to get Phil or Montario. And one of those drafts we had already traded down.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t you think RG3 will have more of an impact on a team than 2, or even 3 players like Hardesty and Taylor?
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Absolutely…I am not denying that. I am just not in the camp that wants to give up picks to get him. He’s a great prospect, no doubt. I also don’t feel this FO is necessarily seeing a need to give up on McCoy yet. I’ve said before i’m ok with either scenario. I don’t see it. It’s how I feel about it and no matter how many people who buy into the mania try to convince me otherwise, i’m not for giving up picks.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
The quarterback is a big piece of it, there is no question about that, but he has to throw it to somebody and he has to be protected a little bit. It’s all that kind of stuff that goes in to it.
I believe in the players that we have. It’s going to come down, one way or the other, to whomever is playing quarterback for us we are going to coach the heck out of him. I expect him to play well
Was I pleased? Yeah, in a lot of the stuff he did. My opinion of Colt has not changed. I think he has a lot of intangibles. Ultimately though, as with not only the quarterback position but with every position, you are kind of judged on, and probably the quarterback more than anybody, on how well your team did. I’m not ready to anoint Colt yet. Have I changed my mind? No. Do I love him? Yes, I do.
We have a good coach and we have a good coaching staff and we have good young players and we have a way that we think will work. It’s not necessarily the quick fix and I know that can be a frustration at times. If we think that it’s going to help us in the long term, we are not opposed to do anything, but generally speaking, we are going to stay the course here.
If you’re in the process of being a young quarterback playing for a team that’s still building, particularly on offense, it’s doubly hard. Usually it’s like this, I’m not surprised, I’m not shocked. Like I said, our record was disappointing because we were in a lot of ball games. I mean goodness gracious, we had chances to have a better record and it didn’t happen for this reason or that reason. Like I said, I’m not discouraged. I’m a little ticked off, but I’m not discouraged.
Obviously on offense, and just like coach said, we need to upgrade all over the place. We want guys that score touchdowns, we’ve got to protect better. We are looking at all the positions.
We’re going to meet with the coaches tomorrow about a lot of these things just to add to the evaluation process. But, I think he played in a lot of games, he’s a young quarterback and we think he’s got enough talent to be a player for us, but has he made mistakes like coach said? Yes. Can he get better? We think he will get better so that’s why we’re doing this.
I hear all the arguments for RG3 but in this presser they say McCoy is the guy multiple times, put some of the blame on WR and protection and say basically he can win here and we are going to coach him up. I’ll believe this before I buy anything else. Oh and the part about “staying the course”.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Well you believe what you want. I made my piece/peace on this and the Burfict thing. I’m over it.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
but in this presser they say McCoy is the guy multiple times
Not in any of the parts you quoted.
Steel Nick
Well you believe what you want. I made my piece/peace on this and the Burfict thing. I’m over it.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it means I have nothing more to say on either matter.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well you can’t just say “The front office said Colt was their guy” and refuse to address it further when they never said such a thing, unless there are more quotes you didn’t include. That has nothing to do with believing whatever I want, they didn’t say it.
Steel Nick
Ok.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Too funny, I say i’m over trying to make a fruitless point and you assume i’m not coming back?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 7, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
I am no longer in this discussion about what I think the FO will do. There are other things to talk about here. P.S. I only said I was outta here once before and then something happened the next day to change my mind.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 7, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Hell if I was this FO I would think about giving up on him solely for his dad calling my training and medical staff worse that whatever he has in Crap Creek, TX.
Just don’t see our frugal front office pulling a trigger that involves massive contracts or giving away any picks.
I replied by saying we did exactly those things in each of the last two drafts. Why do you think they changed their approach this season?
I am just not in the camp that wants to give up picks to get him.
i’m not for giving up picks.
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I don’t know what this means.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll give it a crack. Trading up to 59th and trading up six spots when you just stole a whole draft are entirely different things. Semantics. Seriously i’m over it.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 6, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well I think it shows that our front office has no problem trading up when they see a player worth taking.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 6, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
And one of those drafts we had already traded down.
First of all, this is irrelevant.
I know the two situations aren’t exactly comparable. That isn’t the point. The point is you said our front office was frugal and wouldn’t trade up. As far as I can tell there is little to no evidence for that assertion. I countered by providing evidence that our front office had in fact taken risks and moved up in the draft before. Not to the same degree as a deal for Griffin would be, but the behavior is there.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
The Colts have 28 million reasons to get rid of a 35 year old pain in the neck and move on. No way they keep Manning. They get Oliver’s boy (St. Iggy), get their cap back, and go.
Just cause they’re bitchin at each other don’t count out a renegotiation.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 3, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
They wouldn’t have those 28 million reasons if they hadn’t given them as part of, a FIVE year contract, to keep a 35 year old pain in the neck, a mere 6 months ago.
They also didn’t think his injury would be as bad as it was.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
There is no way for us to know, what they know and when they knew it. But, I know what you’re saying. They had faith in the neck fusion. Mortenson is now saying several LBs play with this fusion. It’s now the nerve damage in his shoulder, they’re concerned with.
Peytons’ been throwing the ball in rehab for awhile now. He can feel if the nerve is regenerating or not. Manning announced to day that he is, willing to do negotiate a new contract with no guarantees and laden with incentive bonus. I get 2 things from that. First, he thinks he’ll play. Second, he wants to retire a Colt. I’m predicting he stays in Indy.
I don’t know how many times this needs to be explained — the Colts CANNOT trade Manning. His 28 million dollar bonus is due BEFORE trades can occur. Please people, read up on this situation before proposing absolutely dumb trades that are impossible.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 4, 2012 12:01 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Looking for the up button…..what are you replying to?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I decide to author a book tonight and it has given me the inspiration to write my own very new sig. The one i have to keep for 23 more months is below.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
That’s odd. How did you know? I wrote a “book” a few nights ago. Been trying to edit it down to a ‘short story’. Currenty, still at 3,247 words. Now I’m having 2nd thoughts about ‘publishing’ it.
It would be cool to be a mod…then if you said something in an inebriated state, you could just remove it.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Wut?
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Nm….was focused elsewhere. At the same time I assume he is cut but then re-signed.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Norman Theismann
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
TNKK is schizophrenic. 98% of his posts are replied by him.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 4, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Multiple personality disorder, not Schizophrenia
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All the above.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
lol.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
TNKK is schizophrenic. 98% of his posts are replied by him.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
TNKK is schizophrenic. 98% of his posts are replied by him.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
So now i’m a schizophrenic with a crappy golf swing. I see how you are.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 5, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
You can fix a bad golf swing though. lol
by Brownie's Year on Feb 5, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Ha!
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 5, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Check out Norman Theismann at the DBN glossary thread..lol.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Being fall down drunk didn’t have anything to do with it.
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by The New Kardiac Kids on Feb 4, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Manning can still be traded. It would take some forgiveness on Manning’s part, something that seemed much more likely weeks ago.
If Manning would delay his bonus, then he could be traded. Now I know there are a lot of people that say Manning won’t do it, but there are 28 million reasons to do so. If he becomes a free agent, he is going to be hard pressed to get a team to give him 28 million before he suits up. If his contract is traded with him, that’s money in the bank.
If he delays the payment, and the Colts don’t find anyone willing to take that bonus, then he still ends up a free agent.
It’s going to take some cooler heads to take over in the situation, but I think it can get done. Both have something to gain.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 5, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he does. Don’t want to see him play for a different team.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 5, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see him playing for Washington. That would take care of one of our trade up problems (if they H&H even want RG3).
I thought it was weird enough seeing McNabb in a Redskins uni. I wouldn’t be able to comprehend Manning in burgundy.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 5, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sure he’s willing to, but if someone is going to give you 28 million, you’re gonna take it.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 5, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
If Manning proves that he can still make all of the throws with no problems how many of you think that the Colts keep him? This is one of the top QBs of all time and he very well could have 5 All Pro caliber years left in him. Could he be wanting to save the Colts $$$ so they can spend it elsewhere to bring in some talent through free agency? Just want your opinions because I have no idea how this may go.
I think it’s much higher than that, but I’m not going to put a number on it. I think this whole situation is still very much up in the air.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
I’m willing to put an entirely arbitrary number based completely on speculation: 36% chance Peyton Manning plays for the Colts next season.
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Nice try golan.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this made me lol
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by Dawg Nuts on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
He will be in the AFC/NFC East. Jets are still my favorite, but I can see Washington.
If he goes to NY, I think it causes a huge domino effect that could effect the Browns. Not convinced that Sanchez goes to Seattle if Manning goes to NY. Remember, Sanchez and Carroll had a falling out when Sanchez left early.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
If Manning goes to the Jets, I can see Sanchez going to Wash, KC, or Den.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 7, 2012 3:57 AM EST up reply actions
That would be one of the most entertaining interception fests of all time.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
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- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
