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The saddest part is, BQ’s right. The “team” won those games, not just TT. Especially the defense for keeping then so close and providing the opportunities to a weak offense to find the endzone.

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by J. W. on Feb 21, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

The team won in spite of Tebow. Just look at his stat line for the Steelers playoff game. They won despite his >50% comp.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The discussion shouldn’t be about completion percentage when evaluating Tebow. Or at least not with the same barometer as a QB who isn’t also a fullback.

I’m not saying it should be about wins, but it should include rushing and passing efficiency (passing efficiency should include his sacks and scrambles for yardage).

Even after all that Tebow just isn’t very good.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Feb 21, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Tebow just isn’t very good.

Agreed. But he is still better than Brady Quinn.

Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that was just one stat I figured I’d toss up. The fact that he got 316 yards in all 10 of his completions (imo) also helps to point out that his WRs bailed him out a bit.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but he’s also still pretty good on Y/A.

I mean run, run, run, deep ball is pretty much how he’d have to win. That way his lack of accuracy is downplayed because you don’t have to hit at a high %. Its a big play when you decide to pass and he does connect, and various options/Tebow running can take the place of ball-controll passing.

If you only complete 25% of your passes but you throw each for an 80 yard TD, you’re going to be alright as an offense. Sure, other marginally better QBs could heave throws up there and have WRs bail them out too, but they don’t present the run threat that Tebow does, and they’d either have to complete passes underneath or be significantly better than Tebow at the deep ball because they would face defenses geared toward taking the deep ball away.

I think Tebow’s only real shots to succeed in the NFL are as follows:
1. Develop a quicker release and better accuracy, get an opportunity down the road once these are developed or hold on to his starting job the entire time.
2. A. Find a coach who is willing to base a system around “college” plays, including various options and PA deep passes. This coach must fully commit to an option-centric offense, because pro teams will (and already kind of have) adjust if he just sprinkles it in like Fox has. The coach will have to gameplan the option like Sean Peyton gameplans the passing game.
B. Get a starting job under this coach
C. Stay healthy through a multiple full seasons of NFL pounding.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Feb 22, 2012 4:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I read the same story on Yahoo today and laughed the whole way through.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Isn’t he a free agent now? That will probably not be a problem much longer.

by ouched on Feb 21, 2012 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Brady Quinn should stop sucking worse than Tebow if he wants to remedy this situation.

Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Brady Quinn via twitter:

The comments attributed to me in a recent magazine article are in NO WAY reflective of my opinion of Tim and the Broncos. Tim deserves a lot of credit for our success and I’m happy for him and what he accomplished. Most importantly, he is a great teammate. That interview was conducted three months ago, and the resulting story was a completely inaccurate portrayal of my comments. I have addressed my disappointment with the writer and have reached out to Tim to clear this up. I apologize to anyone who feels I was trying to take anything away from our Team’s or Tim’s success this season.

Now, I’m no fan of Brady Quinn. In fact, I’m certain that I like him the least of anyone within this community.
That said, it doesn’t surprise me at all that Michael Silver took the interview out of context in order to create a more alluring story, even if it’s disingenuous. He’s ruffled up this kind of crap before.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

Right, I trust Silver about as much as I trust Grossi.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

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