Cleveland Browns Free Agent Review: RB Peyton Hillis
This is the first player review we'll be doing over the next week or so on free agents who were on the Cleveland Browns last season. There will be a common format for each one -- brief overviews on how and when the player came to the team, what their production was like, why we could be interested in re-signing them, what we should do, and finally an open poll from the DBN community. Today, we start with running back Peyton Hillis.
RB Peyton Hillis
How and When He Joined the Browns: There were rumored disagreements between the "fullback" and former head coach Josh McDaniels when the pair were together in Denver. In one of the more unique trades you'll see in football, head coach Eric Mangini and the new front office decided that the team no longer required the services of quarterback Brady Quinn. Quinn was traded to Denver, and in return, the Browns received Hillis, a sixth-round pick in 2011, and a conditional draft pick in 2012. The fact that a former first-round quarterback was a bust for Cleveland prevented the scenario from being a win-win. The trade did prevent his selection from being a complete loss, though, because even if Hillis doesn't stay with the Browns next season, he's provided some great memories in a short period of time.
Productivity Level Last Season: Things started off bright for Hillis, who was voted to the cover of Madden 2012. He was entering the final year of his contract, and with all of the positive press Hillis was getting, it seemed like nothing was going to stand in the way of both sides being able to reach a long-term agreement at some point during the season. In Week 3, Hillis suffered a case of strep throat and had to sit out of the game. That led to a firestorm of speculation from the media, as it was suggested that his agent encouraged Hillis to sit out to as some form of a contract dispute. To make matters worse, in Week 6, Hillis suffered a hamstring injury early in the game and had to sit out.
A few weeks later, fans were buzzing when they heard he returned to practice. That buzz went away when he re-aggravated his hamstring during practice, forcing him to miss several more weeks. Hillis finally returned in Week 12 and was able to play the remainder of the season. He had 101 carries for 376 yards over his final six games (3.72 average); a stretch in which he faced the Steelers and the Ravens a total of four times.
Why Keeping Him Could Make Sense: He still fits as an ideal West Coast Offense back in my book. The injuries are always a concern, but he still battled back after the media gave him a bad reputation to have a 112-yard game against Baltimore; that's the second time in two years he has hit the century mark against Baltimore despite not having an offensive line in front of him that excelled in run blocking. Running backs need to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield, and Hillis has proven to be more than capable of doing that. He is the one guy who gives the Browns' offense an identity right now; why take that away?
What the Browns Should Do: If the Browns get rid of Hillis, they can't go into next year with Montario Hardesty, Brandon Jackson, or Chris Ogbonnaya as their starting tailback. The Browns would likely have to draft a Trent Richardson, which in turn throws off the golden opportunity of getting a top-ranked player at the quarterback or wide receiver position. Hillis should not get top-five money, and hopefully his agent understands that the injury issues his client had last year drove down his value. Despite all of the controversy around Hillis last year, he is a core player of this offense and losing him would be detrimental.
Now it's your turn -- vote in the poll below on whether or not the team should try to re-sign Peyton Hillis!
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Freudian slip with the poll?
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Poll fixed now, I picked the wrong question from the list.
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by Chris Pokorny on Feb 21, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Either way my vote is yes.
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He will be. He’s still on his rookie contract, and it really wouldn’t make sense to cut him. Assuming Hillis is gone, we will have Jackson, Hardesty, and Ogbannaya. Jackson and OMGbanana are basically the same player, except Jackson is better. It doesn’t make sense to keep both.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
If the Browns get rid of Hillis, they can’t going to go into next year with Montario Hardesty, Brandon Jackson, or Chris Ogbonnaya as their starting tailback. The Browns would likely have to draft a Trent Richardson
This is like saying A + B = 7
If we let Hillis walk we’ll have to replace him but that doesn’t mean we need to spend #4 on a RB or even #22.
Anyways I’m in favor of bringing Hillis back, assuming it’s at the right price and he’s on good behavior.
Yeah I’m lost on the logic that we MUST draft Richardson if Hillis doesn’t stay.
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I would start Ogbannya before doing that.
by HenryDawg on Feb 21, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. Go after Doug martin/Chris Polk in the 2nd/3rd and I think we’re set.
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Curious to hear from the no voters. I see the reasons, but I’m not sure any of them are compelling enough, especially faced with other spots on the roster that need fixes.
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I did vote no on this and I say we don’t spend our 1st round picks on a running back. We could probably get a David Wilson or LaMichael James with our 2nd rounder if we don’t resign Hillis. I know he did well in 2010, but got caught up in everything around him in 2011 and his performance suffered. Injuries aside, he just wasn’t the same Peyton Hillis. If I am H&H, I don’t want to risk that again and have our offense suffer again. Let him walk.
If LaMichael James is your every down back you are in trouble.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Feb 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking more about how he didnt show an ability to catch the ball in college, goes down on first contact too much and is pretty small. But Crack usage is a red flag too I suppose.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Feb 21, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot the *
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Is that some site joke i missed out on?
by Justin Kowalczyk on Feb 21, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, the joke is we’re trying to spread a rumor to drive his value down so we can draft him later.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I heard Luck does meth.*
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also I have it on good authority that Blackmon sunk the Lusitania*.
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by Adrock2099 on Feb 21, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He and Luck did it together. It was hauling a secret cargo of meth.*
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by The Licensed Optimist on Feb 22, 2012 3:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you don’t need to make up character issues for floyd
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by bross09 on Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
meth made by Richardson in a dungeon with his chemistry teacher from Alabama*
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Ah ill keep it in mind going forward. Although I think hes already going to be a 3rd-5th rounder depending on how he performs at the combine/pro day.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Feb 21, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
agreed. Not as high as some on David Wilson too.
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Sure if the only thing you look for is speed you can grab those guys, but they are both scatbacks. Wilson has more power, but isn’t huge and didn’t run between the tackles as much. Plus, he fumbled a lot and isn’t a great blitzer. I’d rather have Doug martin a round later who can pick up blitzes and catch well out of the backfield.
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I voted yes, but the only reason I could see is if he held out for more money than he’s worth. I think 4 Mil / yr should be the absolute ceiling on a contract offer.
by Vududawg on Feb 21, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like the idea of incentive contracts. You earn your money, sitting on the sidelines gives you a smaller paycheck. So where do you strive to be? Earning more money.
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There were about three noes up when it still said Vickers. I vote yes either way.
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
I’m gonna shock you here, I voted no.
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by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 22, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t take it that way, I just figured that I have explained my position on this subject just under a billion times no need to beat it again.
Now if you will excuse me, I need to go discuss why we need RG3…
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by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 23, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn’t agree more. You hit all the details.
If the Browns do let him go, I hope it’s because of the money and just because they couldn’t reconcile their differences.
I’d like to see him resigned w/ an incentive heavy deal.
I know the new CBA is not fully understood with regards to incentives.
Either way, I think 2nd round is where RBs get drafted these days.
by mr.saturday.night on Feb 21, 2012 4:35 PM EST reply actions
Hillis should be re-signed, a back should be drafted between rounds 2-4 and Jackson & Hardesty should compete for a roster spot. I’m not writing Hardesty off completely but at this point counting on him to be the 1st or 2nd back isn’t a prudent decision.
Hillis is clearly the best back on the team and H&H should find a way to compliment him and keep him fresh.
by Pillowhands on Feb 21, 2012 8:20 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I would suggest drafting Isaiah Pead from Cincinnati to complement Hillis. He’s fast, shifty, and has good hands receiving out of the backfield. We shouldn’t have to drop a high pick on him, either. Maybe a second or third rounder? Not sure where he’s projected to go at the moment.
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I know it’s been said a thousand times on here, but drafting Richardson at 4 would be a disaster. I don’t care if he turns into the next Adrian Peterson. Has AP been able to turn around Minnesota? No. It doesn’t matter if you have a superstar running back if you don’t have a QB who can make defenses respect the pass. We had this problem when Quinn was the QB in ‘09. Defenses knew Quinn didn’t have the arm or deep accuracy (which Colt doesn’t have either) to make them play deeper. So they stacked the box. Quinn couldn’t beat them with the pass because he couldn’t get the ball past the linebackers and we couldn’t run because we were running into defenders playing closer to the line of scrimmage.
A running back will not fix this offense. A QB who can stretch the field will.
I think he is a great RB for the Browns….fortunately his problems last year will mean a smaller contract than he was asking for last year…I am hoping that we will sign him…that way we can concentrate on other core needs
The dreaded ellipses instead of periods.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
….what did you say?…..
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Us old guys…type…the way we talk…
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by Kaner on Feb 22, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
He’s very active for his age.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions

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