Brady Quinn: Cleveland Browns New Back-up?
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 2:34 PM EST
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I expect/hope that the Browns will be moving up to the number two slot in order to select Robert Griffin III. But what I am thinking is for the future. I like Colt McCoy as a back-up, and Thaddeus Lewis is a project.
So why the hell would the Browns sign Brady Quinn?
Because you always gamble on talent. It's the same reason that I wanted us to sign Jamarcus Russell, and trade the farm for Jay Cutler. I know that Quinn didn't set the world on fire while he was here in Cleveland, but I lay a lot of that blame at the feet of how he was handled.
So why sign Quinn? Why not roll the dice on Lewis or some other late round project?
Because he would be cheap. He is young. He is talented. What is the downside in that?
This is my line of thinking: The Browns bring in Quinn, let him "compete" with Colt and RG3 for the starting job. Assuming RG3 Wins the job, then it comes down to Colt vs. Quinn for the back-up job. If Quinn wins it, great. If he loses, no big deal, at least we know that Colt is better than Quinn.
It's all about adding depth and talent to the Quarterback position.
Let's be real here. 73 different Quarterbacks threw a pass in a regular season game last season. At some point in time, the Browns will need someone to fill in for the starter. I don't care if it is Colt or Quinn, but whoever it is, I want them to do well if they are called upon. Two reasons: I want the Browns to win, and I want to trade a QB as soon as we can get something in value.
Brady Quinn will allow the Browns to move a backup if they play well. Without the "safety net" of McCoy/Quinn, I would not feel comfortable trading our back-up if they play well.
If Brady Quinn is exactly what most here think he is, then we cut him and replace him with another project. But he is worth bringing him in for a look.
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"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson
by Adrock2099 on Feb 21, 2012 2:39 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
My thoughts on this post:
It was one thing to suggest we sign Jamarcus Russell, this is just a ridiculous idea. Brady Quinn sucks; we all know that. I’d rather sign a developmental guy or just about anyone else.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I won’t lie… It was a tough sell.
Usually I come away from an article thinking “I can totally see this happening”. Not so much here. But I needed a break from the RG3 talk.
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough. The Jamarcus thing was fun speculation. If we signed him, I would think it was interesting. If we sign BQ, I will be pissed.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I would rather have Quinn than Russell, but that’s not saying much as I never liked either coming into the NFL.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 21, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
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you always gamble on talent
And Brady Quinn has no talent so I don’t see why we gamble on him. I’d rather stick with Lewis.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions
Brady Quinn is a talented weight lifter and he can name all fifty capital cities. Hard to not see his amazing talents. Unfortunately those don’t help him play QB.
"I don't know what no means"
by BenRapelisberger on Feb 21, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t know about the ability to name capital cities.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 22, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
It’s that Catholic school education.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, I call a community intervention and insist that you share what your smoking.
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong!
My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch!
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Share it? Sounds like he’s got something stupid like that k2/Spice crap floating around. Better off sticking with some good ole fashioned MJ.
Honor. Courage. Commitment.
by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 21, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Must…..not…..reply…….NOOOOO!!!!!!
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by Groza on Feb 21, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Haha, such an awesome clip.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 21, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Would we be doing this as a way to troll Josh McDaniels?
by ouched on Feb 21, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh My
For Pure Speculation Only: What if the draft pundits are wrong…totally wrong…and the Colts select RGIII. Now Luck is sitting there. Do you think anyone in our front office has conceived of the possibility? Now what…Oh My!
It will never happen, but even if it does, what does it change? If the FO was willing to trade up to 2 and get their QB, I think they’ll still be willing to trade up to 2 and get their QB.
Steel Nick
If we were going to trade up to get our QB, why not go for the one thats supposed to be the best option? If our team was going to mortage a draft for one player then go for the best one – isn’t that supposed to be the consensus – Andrew Luck as the best QB. I would go for that..
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong!
My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch!
Once you start agreeing with TDSH, you know that you're wrong.
I’m sure they would love to do that. I don’t think the Colts would.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
This is why Luck is never in our conversations.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 21, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Who said anything about mortgaging a draft?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Feb 21, 2012 9:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Didn’t you know? Any time you combine either the 4th and 22nd or 4th and 37th to get to the 2nd it is, according to the rule book, a franchise crippling mortgage. I’m sure I read that … somewhere.
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by JustBob on Feb 22, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. I think it will be a feeding frenzy.
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it’s just me, but personally I don’t think the Heisman means much of anything translating into the NFL.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 21, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn’t mean crap, I’m just saying that you can make assumptions about what will happen but things change. If I was the Colts I would be seriously looking very strongly at RG3 over Luck. If you watch their throws, I prefer RG. He hits his receivers in stride and has great velocity and touch on his passes. The only reason to put Luck ahead of Griffin right now is because he played in pro style drop back, which is not a big deal. The other reason is that you just listen to the media who have been telling you for 2 years that Luck’s can’t miss. He could miss.
What’s with the atttitude? My post began For Pure Speculation Only. Anything is possible. I was simply trying to see what others thought. There are some who believe RGIII isn’t worth giving up both 1st rounders. Well, if Luck is there, is giving up 2 first rounders more acceptable? I think they stick with Colt, draft a QB later, and fill in holes — including making trades for more picks.
I think they stick with Colt, draft a QB later, and fill in holes — including making trades for more picks.
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by Dawg Nuts on Feb 23, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait. Is this before or after we’ve already signed Quinn? If H&H have to wrestle with the decision to choose between Luck, McCoy and Quinn then, um, we need a new FO ; )
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I think Brady Quinn is terrible even as a 3rd stringer.
by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If so, it would just be Quinn’s luck that he will start over him.
by youngergenerationbrownsfan on Feb 23, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully nowhere near Cleveland.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Come on now, he could be calling for him as the starter.
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
agreed!!
Bernie19Kosar…you need to chill out before you post articles with titles like this. And make it clear in the opening paragraph that something like this is just your silly suggestion for the Browns’ front office
Honestly, I think I would be much more upset with this than if we drafted Trent Richardson or Tannehill at 4 overall. I mean having Brady Quinn on the roster again just brings up too many demons.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the title is very misleading. I would have had a heart attack if I were 30 years older.
Honor. Courage. Commitment.
by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 21, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
I have adjusted it. My bad. Let’s all relax.
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Or they could just learn when free agency starts and not freak out in the first place.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Feb 21, 2012 9:43 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
I really don’t think its that terrible of an idea. What is the worst that could happen? He starts a couple of games? Is he going to look worse that Colt? Probably not. Is he a locker room cancer? I don’t think so. He’s used to being a backup and he has some skills probably. I would do it for cheap.
Exactly. Not a huge Colt fan, but Colt is 10x better than Quinn. Really, Colt looks like a real live NFL quarterback. Brady Quinn just looked lost. I’ll never forget watching him in the first three games of 2009 — the first Mangini year — and just being completely puzzled by how this guy got on an NFL roster. He was that bad.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
at least Quinn beat the Steelers.
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously? Josh Cribbs and our defense, along with a great gameplan, beat the Steelers. Did Brady Quinn even throw a pass that night?
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 22, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
He can’t even beat Tebow for a starting job, do you think he’ll look worse than Colt then?
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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 21, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not even a question about it. I don’t know anything about Lewis so I can at least dream that he might be good. BQ, I know everything and I don’t like it.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
He couldnt beat out DA. Seriously the Quinn ship has sailed and it sunk like the Titanic.
by Justin Kowalczyk on Feb 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
He did beat out DA a couple of years ago…
by Legoman0721 on Feb 21, 2012 4:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Then he’s stupid and can’t understand the position. How is that better?
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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 21, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
That he did. This next season, most teams will be ready for the Tebow express. Kinda like when everyone caught onto to DA and he wasn’t effective anymore.
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong!
My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch!
Once you start agreeing with TDSH, you know that you're wrong.
and the “this team spent a first round pick on him” contest
by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 22, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I think this had more to do with it. I think the idea was for him to come in and suck so they could know for a fact that he sucked and then move on. Unfortunately, though he held up his end of the bargain, the team won, so now they’re stuck.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t like Quinn, but you can’t blame him for not beating out Tebow as the starter. There’s too much money to lose if they started Quinn even if he would’ve won them more games.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 21, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well I was reading something today and Tebow did actually play a lot better in preseason so maybe I jumped to conclusions on that one.
tebow was quite literally 4th string last august
by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 22, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
I think he was better than Tebow, but other factors played a role.
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
quinn is clearly a better quarterback than tebow
by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 22, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
I’d rather talk Dilfer outta retirement than have Quinn back.
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Holy crap. Why not just go get Kelly Holcomb back?
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong!
My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch!
Once you start agreeing with TDSH, you know that you're wrong.
I admit in theory it’s not a bad idea. He either plays well enough to be the backup, or you cut him. I don’t think he would sign just for a chance at a backup spot though. Someone will hand him that role.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
There are plenty of other guys we can sign as backups that have more upside. Wouldn’t surprise me if Quinn is out of the NFL next year.
Once you start comparing a QB to Drew Brees, you've lost the argument.
by TheDriveStillHurts on Feb 21, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Someone will gamble on him in some capacity. What would Shanahan have to lose?
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
That actually could be a good fit for Quinn.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 21, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
wanna bet ? anyways, binging Quinn in to compete in training camp is not going to hurt anything…you never know whats going to happen these days…who would have predicted that Denver would make the playoffs with Tebow at the helm…they should have made Elway NFL executive of the year for bringing Tebow in…their season was a lost cause and he know threy could fill the seats with Tebow starting…guess what it worked…I do not see him winning many games next year..may God strike me dead…urk…
I have a different take on it.
I think the Broncos knew they weren’t going to win anything with Orton, so they threw in Tebow for a few reasons. To shut the fans up. Elway didn’t draft him, and by all appearances, hates the kid. Old Buck-tooth assumed Tebow would suck, and then he could go his own way at the QB position and more Tebow sucked, the better his pick would be.
At the risk of ever saying anything nice about Elway, it was actual a brilliant plan. The best part is that it blew up in his stupid horse face.
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 23, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Initially, Tebow was an enormously credible suck-for-Luck strategy.
by DontCallMeJoey on Feb 24, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
I would punch John Elway if I ever got close enough.
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 25, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
hey while were at it lets bring jeff garcia in for a workout
by FrenchToast979 on Feb 21, 2012 5:05 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I’d be in favor of looking at Doug Pederson
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by ColumbusBacker on Feb 21, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
At least all those lonely old Quinn jerseys could find their way home…on the backs of every female Browns fan ever.
Jerseys Ive owned since 99. Couch. Brown. K.Johnson. A.Davis. Suggs. Green. Winslow. Edwards. Cribbs. Thomas. Haden.
Having quinn back along with the retention of sizemore will do great things to re-engage the female fanbase
by FrenchToast979 on Feb 21, 2012 5:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
At least Sizemore was actually good.
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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 21, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
This
Jerseys Ive owned since 99. Couch. Brown. K.Johnson. A.Davis. Suggs. Green. Winslow. Edwards. Cribbs. Thomas. Haden.
by ColumbusBacker on Feb 21, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t he a tackle?
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?? Wow, I wouldnt do that for anything. Any better idea there bud?
by Joel Sykes Hobson on Feb 21, 2012 6:09 PM EST reply actions
No going back to Quinn. Don’t open up an old wound and go back down a dead end road.
I’d rather see Josh Cribbs at QB. He can throw, he can run, he’s the RG3 we already have on the roster! Plus most of us already have his jersey, it’s brilliant!
Colt is the answer, winning is the question...
This
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong!
My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch!
Once you start agreeing with TDSH, you know that you're wrong.
Cribbs’ completion % was 66.7 in 2010. That would put him right behind Aaron Rodgers this year. Plus he had no interceptions and he’s just about as tall as RG3! We’re sitting on a goldmine here fellas. What was Shurmur thinking when he didn’t give this him a chance to “battle” at the QB position?
I think I heard Josh’s wife say something like, “Cribbs can catch the ball and throw it too!”
Colt is the answer, winning is the question...
What about Chad Henne? Would he accept a backup role?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Feb 21, 2012 9:53 PM EST via Android app reply actions
You think he could get a starter role somewhere? Myself I don’t think he has any choice but to accept it.
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by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Possibly. He was playing well before his injury. If I’m a Jets fan I’d rather see him than Sanchez. There’s Seattle if they don’t address QB elsewhere. Hell, if the Browns kept Colt add the starter, he seems like the kind of guy you bring in to compete.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Feb 21, 2012 10:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Henne is an INT machine. And he was not playing well this year. First week was “ok”, but after that he was horrible.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 21, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm, you’re right, the stats really don’t support starting material. Still like what he could do as a backup.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Feb 21, 2012 10:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I liked Henne coming out of college. He just never lived up to my expectations.
by Brownie's Year on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
He’s the kind of guy who seems like he could break out at any moment but just never gets there.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
he better. He is not a starter
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Wouldn’t hate that one bit.
Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.
by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 22, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Did AJ Hawk’s sister hack Bernie’s SB Nation account?!
by Boston Browns on Feb 21, 2012 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Bernie, were you drinking today?
I take this optimism shit seriously.
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by The Licensed Optimist on Feb 22, 2012 2:42 AM EST reply actions
I will probably get bashed for this but I’m with you here Bernie. Quinn actually had won the 2nd string position (behind Orton) and played well in the preseason. Orton got hurt one game and Quinn was going to go in (ahead of Tebow). Ultimately, Orton decided to go back into the game and when he got hurt 4 weeks later, with the fans calling for Tebow, Tebow went in and we know what happened.
If we are going to move up to take RG3 I don’t like the move at all. Essentially it would be a waste with RG3, Colt, Quinn, Wallace, and Lewis all on board. If we don’t decide to go after RG3 or Flynn, I wouldn’t mind bringing Quinn back in and let him compete with Colt. It gives Colt a bigger incentive to improve (although I think he is motivated enough already). Quinn was thrown into a bad situation the first time with us and then lost a chance to start last year due to popularity even though he was better. There is a reason he was a first round pick.
In that scenario the only thing Wallace and Lewis would be onboard is an outbound bus.
But to build on B19K’s Satanic advocacy (or whatever you call it) I remember Quinn looking decent when he subbed for a series in the (SF?) game when DA hurt his hand. In the ensuing offseason I read that the coaches worked with Quinn on his throwing mechanics. I’m not sure they were licensed to perform that kind of operation, because the result looked pretty crappy.
So this is simple. Bring him in cheap, try to undo whatever was done to him by those earlier coaches, and pray that if RGIII and McCoy are ever both injured at the same time that Quinn acquits himself well enough to garner us a 3rd or 4th round pick in trade.
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I was at the game vs SF and he did look good. He should had two passes that should have been touchdowns but Winslow and Edwards dropped them in the endzone.I had hope after that game that I witnessed the first game of our franchise quarterback but I was wrong. I’m not sure about the whole mechanics thing but could be true.
I think it would be a waste to bring him in if we are going to get RG3. If we don’t though, sign him for cheap and let him compete with our other quarterbacks. We should have more pieces in place after this free agency and draft and it would be a much better situation than he had the first time. To me it looks like he never really got a good chance to succeed and he may be talent that has just been wasted. Low risk, high reward kind of move if we could get him for cheap.
he beat Pittsburg…well he started anyways… I would not be upset if he came in to try out for a backup role…this whole Tebow thing had to suck for him…he sure has not had any luck so far in the NFL…anyways this whole debate is pure speculation and is not going to happen anyways…maybe we could build a team around Quinn, anyone up for that? :) anyways we found out that Bernie likes Quinn… :)
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