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by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Feb 21, 2012 3:21 PM EST reply actions

BTW— where did you get this?

by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Feb 21, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions

Great question, I’d like to know as well.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions

On “Waiting for Next Years” facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/waitingfornextyear

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by Kosar19 on Feb 21, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions

WFNY shared from “Brown’s Bunch” fb page.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBrownsBunch?sk=wall

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by Kosar19 on Feb 21, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions

Here's more detail:

(Using the image size adjustment tip)

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions

They look even worse in larger detail. Even the 1977 Vancouver Canucks think these are ugly.

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by Kosar19 on Feb 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions

We had a living room that looked like this guy once.

by HenryDawg on Feb 21, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs

ha

by Brownie's Year on Feb 21, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions

I’m gonna guess and say 1981?

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by LocalMan on Feb 21, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions

Reminds me of this:

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 22, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions

Except those are awesome. Numbers on the leg? Now that’s thinking outside the box.

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by Adrock2099 on Feb 22, 2012 3:16 AM EST up reply actions

Numbers on the leg?

I liked that, but I’m not a big fan of the puke-shade rainbow.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 22, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions

Those are pretty sick.

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by rufio on Feb 22, 2012 4:04 AM EST up reply actions

Would wear.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 22, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions

My Dad actually has one of these from 1981.

Freaking awesome.

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 22, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

Is this one of those “it’s so tacky that it’s cool” situations?

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 22, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions

No they just look great.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 22, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions

Hell yeah. Those are sic.

by Brownie's Year on Feb 22, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions

Hipsters love these jerseys. Just giving you fair warning.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions

It looks like something Cliff Hustable wouldn’t even wear.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 22, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions

Huxtable*

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 22, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions

Hey, sometimes hipsters know what’s up. There’s a reason the hipster meme is liking something before it was cool. A lot of stuff hipsters like turn out to be cool.

Those jerseys are great.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions

Can I ask, if it’s not a "it’s so tacky that it’s cool" case, what is the appeal to those jerseys? I’m legitimately curious what is so many people see in them. I want to know because I’m not seeing it.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 23, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t know, maybe it is that’s it’s so tacky it’s cool, but I just see what I like. I’ve completely lost my sense of irony, so I can no longer tell if I like things to be funny or not.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions

I’ve met people that honestly think “ugly” is the new “not ugly” or uh, “in.”

I think I understand what you mean, you look at something and either like it or not without thinking about it. That’s how I am, I just look at the diarrheal rainbow and turn it down.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 23, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions

It just fits the time period. Those color contrasts were in.

We A’s fans still wear the 70s retro gear. Our old bright yellows were awesome.

by Brownie's Year on Feb 23, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions

Hey believe me it wasn’t meant as an insult. I love hipsters.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 23, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions

It is for me. The thing is hideous.

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 23, 2012 7:28 AM EST up reply actions

I was hoping that I wasn’t the only one.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 23, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions

I love these jerseys but its definitely because I’m both and Astros fan and a Ron Paul voter, and he starred in the Congressional baseball game in that uniform.

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by troy145 on Feb 24, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions

That jersey is the EXACT same pattern as this smelly old blanket my parents had but never threw away for some reason.

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by Adrock2099 on Feb 22, 2012 3:16 AM EST up reply actions

I like this. A lot.

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by Dawg Nuts on Feb 21, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions

I love them. Especially the all whites. No black shoes!

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions

I also really like the all orange socks.

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions

Lovin these!

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by jlsclarity on Feb 27, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions

Awful

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by troy145 on Feb 21, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions

Awesome

"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson

by Adrock2099 on Feb 21, 2012 3:35 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

The Brown jerseys / Brown pants one is incredible. I like them.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions

I saw another site that had a mock up of a new helmet. Hideous with an off-centered Dawg logo. I dont mind minor adjustments (i.e. orange pants, Brownie elf logo on jersey somewhere, etc) but NO logos on the helmet.

by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Feb 21, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t think having five Colt McCoys on our team is a good idea at all.

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by LocalMan on Feb 21, 2012 3:49 PM EST reply actions 7 recs

5 black colt mccoys at that

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by pwndabear on Feb 21, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

Either Colt is getting some plastic surgery, or is getting cut once we draft RG3

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by bross09 on Feb 21, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions

The middle one is similar to the alternate uni I made for my Madden team. My alternate had a brown jersey & orange pants which looks much better.

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by Groza on Feb 21, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions

I think it’s important to have stylistic appeal to young and older generations. There has to be a more creative solution other than wearing all white every game. Consumers like options… that’s why you have 15 different options of everything at the grocery store.

Tradition is a must, but style and image is must keep up with the times. Can’t be afraid of change.

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by LocalMan on Feb 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions

Change just for change’s sake isn’t a good thing either. I don’t like any of those concepts myself.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Montario Hardesty, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by North Coast Flea on Feb 21, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions

I think they have plenty of reasons to spice up the uniforms, not just to change for the sake of change. The current image/style of the Browns is a bit stale and bland imo. I think a few minor tweeks would show fans that the team is progressive and confident enough to take a risk in appealing to some young consumer dollars while standing by tradition. Fans like variety when it comes to merchandise… our current jersey line up does not provide much.

Hate to say it but younger (not all) Browns fans don’t give two shits about the great history of our past players/teams. Those days don’t connect to the youth.

That being said, I think the plain orange helmet and plain brown jersey look spectacular.

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by LocalMan on Feb 21, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions

The Browns definitely have an aging fan base. Seems the kids rock the Steeler crap and the old guys are the only ones wearing Browns gear (no offense to younger Browns fans here who I know rock their jerseys and other assorted gear with pride). However I don’t think blinging up the unis is going to change that. Winning SBs will though.

by HenryDawg on Feb 21, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions

I like these because they’re not blinged out. Looks pretty normal/mild compared to all the other ones we’ve seen.

by Brownie's Year on Feb 21, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions

I think this style would look cool with the orange jersey and white pants. Don’t see that version here though.

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by LocalMan on Feb 22, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions

This. These are awesome in their simplicity.

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by Dawg Nuts on Feb 22, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions

The jersey stripes do come in too far from the pit. But what can you do. This isn’t real.

by Brownie's Year on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions

I agree that they do as well.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 23, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions

The Browns definitely have an aging fan base. Seems the kids rock the Steeler crap

I haven’t seen this at all.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Feb 22, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions

Seems that way around Columbus. All the kids are steeler fans and their uncles like the Browns. I’m sure its not the same level in Cleveland.

by HenryDawg on Feb 22, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

Ah, well, Columbus is a weird spot for Cleveland sports. Plenty of fans, but plenty that don’t feel any connection at all.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Feb 22, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions

Plus, they have to live in Columbus, yuck.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions

Columbus is awesome

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by rufio on Feb 22, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Its OK. I would rather live in Cleveland

by HenryDawg on Feb 23, 2012 8:13 AM EST up reply actions

I wouldn’t go that far.

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by Adrock2099 on Feb 23, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions

You guys just don’t hit up the right spots.

(Also it may have something to do with the people I know there being awesome and my age and interests.)

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by rufio on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions

German Village and the Brewery District.

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by nickjs21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

I’ve been to both. I guess I just can’t feel the magic. It just feels so artificial; the place has no history to it. However, seeing as how it’s the only place in Ohio with any bloody jobs, I’ll probably end up moving there and having to like it anyway.

"We just lost to the Steelers 20 hours ago and that still hurts. I need to get home and eat a burrito." -Phil Dawson

by Adrock2099 on Feb 23, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions

This is pretty accurate, it’s a city that was basically built in the 80s and 90s. There are a few spots with decent character but nothing to get overly excited for. Between the state, the OSU, the banks and insurance companies, jobs are pretty good here.

by HenryDawg on Feb 23, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions

The indie music scene is pretty good if you’re into that sort of thing. My buddies got our foot in the door, but sometimes things don’t work out the way you intend to.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions

We lived in the Short North/Victorian Village area for most of our adult lives and it was pretty great but either we got too old or all the people who invaded it every weekend got more annoying.

by HenryDawg on Feb 23, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions

I can see that. I liked going there but I don’t think I could deal with all the noise.

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by rufio on Feb 24, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions

You’re becoming protective of your lawn, aren’t you?

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by Dawg Nuts on Feb 24, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions

I need to get a lawn before I tell people to get off of it.

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by rufio on Feb 24, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions

Columbus is alright, just giving you people a little crap.

For me though, Columbus will always just feel like a huge college town, or an overgrown suburb. It’s not a bad place to live, but it’s just not for me.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 23, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions

I’ve always thought about moving to Cleveland one day, but if I ever go back to Ohio I’m sure I’ll go back to Columbus instead. That’s a great city to be around even having to deal with all the Steelers/Bengals bandwagoners.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions

Disagree wholeheartedly. I’m a Columbus Brownie, plenty of Browns fans here trust me. There’s a fair share of Stooler Bandwagoners and BenGals fans, but it’s primarily a Browns Town in MHO. I think there’s at least a dozen Browns Backers clubs here. The flags are flying in my neighborhood every Sunday. And of the Steeler fans I’ve spoken to here at bars, most haven’t even been to Pittspuke or could point to it on a map.

It’s understandable to have a mix. 3+ hrs to pit, 2 to Cincy, 2 to Cleve….3 to Indy, but don’t see many Colts fans around. Bengals fans don’t have the same passion we do it’s noticeable. Columbus is a great part of Browns Nation…no need for Ohio on Ohio crime! Save it for Pittspuke!

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by Kosar19 on Feb 25, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions

So you disagree wholeheartedly, even though you agree that there is an understandable mix of non-Cleveland fans, which is what I said. Got it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Feb 25, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

No you said in regards to Cleveland there are plenty of fans that don’t have any connection implying that Browns fans in Columbus some how aren’t as strong of fans as those elsewhere. If anything Columbus is a great Browns town because you actually have the opportunity to argue with fans of those lame Steelers and Bengals, and there are plenty of those around to support you in our cause. I’ve been to Cleveland over a dozen times in my life supporting the Browns and Indians and I lived in Columbus for 23 of my 24 years. There’s no reason to think Columbus Brownies are inferior to any other fan.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 25, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions

There’s no reason to think ~~Columbus~~ any Brownies are inferior to any other fan.

fixed.

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by Dawg Nuts on Feb 25, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions

Bingo

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by rufio on Feb 25, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions

What are you talking about? I never said that.

I said there are plenty of COLUMBUS people that don’t have any connection to Cleveland sports, which is why HenryDawg sees more young Steelers fans in Columbus. That cannot be argued with. There are more Cleveland sports fans in Cleveland than in Columbus. I never questioned the allegiance of Cleveland sports fans in Columbus. End of story.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Feb 26, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

Well my apologies. They way you phrased the statement made me think you were referring to Cleveland fans in Columbus rather than NFL fans in general in Columbus.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 26, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t think he said that.

by HenryDawg on Feb 26, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions

I just noticed that the 4th one looks like the Florida Gators all white uniforms.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions

I like all of them except number 3.

by OldTimeDawg on Feb 21, 2012 4:26 PM EST reply actions

I like the second one the least. It looks really strange to me.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions

I want an orange jersey with white pants.

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by notthatnoise on Feb 22, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions

Have always liked the idea of alll brown uniform, but white socks would be much better.

by OldTimeDawg on Feb 21, 2012 4:27 PM EST reply actions

with stripes

by HenryDawg on Feb 21, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions

Booo…

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions

and black shoes

by HenryDawg on Feb 22, 2012 7:51 AM EST up reply actions

Damn you!

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 22, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

I like 1,3, and 5. I think they need a little tweaking with but overall not bad. I saw a guy with a hillis jersey on as I was leaving work, I wish my phone had not died cause I would have taken a pic of it to show you guys. I thought it was pretty sweet, it was silver( I know I know, far from the normal browns uniforms) with black numbers and orange outlining the numbers, then on the shoulders were three stripes, white in the middle, orange next on both sides, and then brown after that. Man I wish my phone had not died, it sounds hideous but not really all that bad IMO

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by findlaybrownslover on Feb 21, 2012 4:29 PM EST reply actions

I love these

by lightninmcqueen on Feb 21, 2012 4:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions

I will never understand people who put time into creating fake uniform alterations for pro sports teams.

Oh well, off to go read the 18th mock draft this week.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Feb 21, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions 9 recs

Well played.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 21, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions

18? Taking it easy?

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 21, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions

Sorry, meant “today.”

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by nickjs21 on Feb 22, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions

I like ‘em. But they’re missing the stripped socks.

by Brownie's Year on Feb 21, 2012 6:56 PM EST reply actions

yeah those socks are weak… need to pull em up too.

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by LocalMan on Feb 21, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions

Put some white socks on the middle one and it would basically guarantee us 10 Super Bowls.

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by Adrock2099 on Feb 21, 2012 7:23 PM EST reply actions

I like them all. The Orange/ Brown mashup just reminds me of leather helmet football and I love it.

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by SpecialBrownie on Feb 21, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions

Brown pants + Orange Jersey = Shit

Orange pants + Brown Jersey = Classic

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 PM EST reply actions

A change would be refreshing after viewing what we have (less the white helmets) for over 60 years.

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by ol skol dawg on Feb 23, 2012 9:55 AM EST reply actions

Arrrg!

Nothing but white pants + home and away jerseys. Maybe a Brownie off the right shoulder. Keep it simple. Can those stripes at the shoulders.

by Cato on Feb 23, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions

Would love to see the old ball carrier, stiff arm brownie on the sleeve.

by HenryDawg on Feb 23, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions

What’s wrong with the simplicity of our current uniform? Why should be mold with the trend just to make it more pleasing to a new generation? I’m almost 24, and I would much rather seeing the standard white and brown on game day than any of these sleek renditions. We’ve lost a lot in Cleveland. No reason to lose our tradition too. I can guarantee new uniforms won’t increase our winning percentage either.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 12:35 AM EST reply actions

Once RG3 is here, we’ll be creating new traditions. Like winning Super Bowls. When that happens, I’m sure none of us will be too worried about the uniforms.

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by Dawg Nuts on Feb 24, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions

If anything, something like this would be an acceptable modern concept to our classic style.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 12:40 AM EST reply actions 3 recs

I love the throwback look. I have nothing negative to say about these. I’d love to see us actually use these. I’d buy one too.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 24, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions

agreed, much more respectful

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by troy145 on Feb 24, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions

One thing I really like about this design are the two stripes on the pants instead of three. I just like how it’s a little more bold.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions

I will say though that the only real problem are the striped sleeves on the undershirt. Not all players (especially linemen) like to wear those kind of undershirts so it wouldn’t be uniform with half of the team missing those stripes on the field.

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by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions