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The Time We Almost Lost Joe Thomas

Three tie breakers. That is all the NFL has in place when trying to figure out the draft order.

• Strength of Schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage. The team with the lowest strength of schedule percentage wins the tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with the same record.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

Seems like a business as large, and successful, as the NFL could maybe throw another stipulation in there, but alas, we are left with three.

If the teams are still locked up after that, they go to the final step. The coin flip.

Star-divide

That is exactly where the Browns found themselves in 2007. The Browns and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers finished with the exact same 4-12 record. Every thing else, exact same. They went to the coin.

The Bucs were in need of a Left Tackle. In '06 Tampa Started Anthony Davis at left tackle the previous season. Davis, undrafted out of Virginia Tech in '04, was a far cry from what the Bucs needed to man the blindside. The Bucs were done with Anthony Davis as a starter after '06. In fact, many mock drafts had the Bucs taking Joe Thomas, like the one at ESPN:

The Bucs might work out a deal with the Lions to move up to No. 2, but they would be happy if Thomas falls to them at No. 4. He would be their most talented left tackle since Paul Gruber.

The Browns were also in need of a Left Tackle. We had given up 54 sacks the previous season, and almost everyone in the free world believed that Kevin Shaffer was a better RT than LT. Those people were right.

In the 2007 NFL Draft there was one elite Tackle: Joe Thomas. Levi Brown was considered by most to be the second ranked Tackle in the class, but he wasn't in the same atmosphere as Joe Thomas.

So they went to the coin toss.

The rest is history. We were a coin toss away from Joe Thomas possibly being the Greatest Tampa Bay Buccaneer of all time, and the Browns reaching for Levi Brown to hold down the LT spot. Seriously, I almost threw up when I typed that sentence.

Of course Levi Brown went on to be a RT for the Arizona Cardinals. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers tried 2nd round pick Aaron Sears at LT in camp, but quickly realized that he was better suited for LG. Bucs then named Donald Penn, who they had signed off the Vikings practice squad the previous season, as their LT.

So the next time you hear a Cleveland fan say "We have nothing but bad luck" explain to them, that for at least one day in 2007, we were the luckiest franchise of all-time.

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This was a nice look back. Thank Joe Thomas he was on our side with that coin toss.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 24, 2012 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

What a story, totally forgot about that. What’s more important is that after having that great fortune we weren’t afraid to make the right choice, despite some people questioning Thomas’ ability. Those people are all dead by the way.

Not sure if you planned this, but there were two flips today:
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-02-24/2012-nfl-scouting-combine-draft-order-complete-after-dolphins-chiefs-win-coin-fl

Unfortunately the Dolphins won theirs so it helps their trade status if it comes down to it. Probably won’t though.

by HenryDawg on Feb 24, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Those people are all dead by the way.

hahahahahhaha

by emily522 on Feb 24, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That is where I got the idea from.

Why did the Steeler fan grow a mustache? So he could look like his mother.

by Bernie19Kosar on Feb 25, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

If the coin happens to land on its edge and roll into the sewer. Each team plays rock/paper/sciccors; best of 13

by SBP on Feb 24, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

The coin meant nothing, Joe Thomas made the result what He wanted it to be.

"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." -Paul Brown

by macdowellm03 on Feb 24, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

I love this. Thanks.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Feb 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

What? No rock, paper, scissors?
Or rock, paper, balls for you Tosh fans. LOL

Madden 12 does not have bugs, it has dyslexia & tourettes.

by Groza on Feb 24, 2012 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

Or..rock paper scissors lizard spock

Cry havoc and let slip the dawgs of war

by Kaner on Feb 24, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

According to Sheldon, what’s the best number? Of course its #73.

by Legoman0721 on Feb 25, 2012 2:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

it happens.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by pwndabear on Feb 24, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would the Almighty need a servant of his majesty to bow down in the likelihood of that sham named Tebow? That’s a disgrace to the true King of Cleveland.

Honor. Courage. Commitment.

by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice!!
i wonder who actually flips the coin.

"There's a gleam men, there's a gleam!" Marty

by Red-Right-88 on Feb 24, 2012 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

ursuline86

Wow great piece of information I wonder how many people know that. Will make for great bar trivia

by ursuline86 on Feb 24, 2012 5:15 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Unfortunately, our FO wasn’t good enough to find a gem like Donald Penn who is a very good LT in his own right.

I teach good life choices. That's why I almost didn't graduate high school.

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by bross09 on Feb 24, 2012 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

FLAG

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Feb 24, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No left tackle belongs in the same post at Joe Thomas.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Feb 24, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, which is why I didn’t mention him. I do not want to break the 3rd commandment of Joe Thomas

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by bross09 on Feb 25, 2012 5:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Thomas has always been with us.

by tr1betime on Feb 24, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

I remember when people were concerned about Joe Thomas’ arm length and thought Levi Brown was closing the gap between himself and Thomas because he put on a good combine.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by rufio on Feb 24, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

We would have taken Brady Quinn at 4.

I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League

by 24rubikscube on Feb 24, 2012 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

I hate it when I instantaneously vomit on myself. Thanks a lot, rubikscrube.

Honor. Courage. Commitment.

by Brownsbacker488 on Feb 24, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, hadn’t seen you in a long time. Glad to see the military has been working out for you.

I guess there's only one thing left to do.....win the whole ******* thing. - Major League

by 24rubikscube on Feb 24, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

well, aside from the spontaneous vomiting.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by pwndabear on Feb 24, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Which is a scary thought.

by Ryno III on Feb 24, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Watchng the OLs at the combine this morning, 2 things:

1. They compare everyone to Joe Thomas and have talked about him all day.
2. There are a lot of RT prospects, and they are very athletic.

by HenryDawg on Feb 25, 2012 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

for at least one day in 2007, we were the luckiest franchise of all-time.

That is, until opie spent our next year’s first for some glorified EAS prettyboy spokesman…

by Vududawg on Feb 25, 2012 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Amazing. Hallelujah!

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Feb 25, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This is awesome. Your artist does great work.

by Jon @ DBN on Feb 25, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks. Glad you guys like it.
I called the guy I’ve been using for 4+ years but he was in LA. It’s simple enough that I let some other guy do it. It only took like 10 minutes to do.

by Brownie's Year on Feb 26, 2012 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

This thread died so I’ll tell you and DN here.
I played Arrowood on Friday with my friend and his bro-in-law. After the round my friend went to take the cart back. He went the wrong way, turned on a dime and almost flipped it. The course manager was walking to his car and saw it. The dude started yelling and screaming like crazy. My friend got out dropping F bombs and got in his face. He’s like 6’3" 240 and was about to whoop on this dude. I got in between them trying to keep the peace. Then that asshole, when walking away, said something about my tattoos and that I should wear pants next time (had shorts on) to cover them up when I play HIS course. And that set me off because I didn’t do or say anything wrong to the man. Not proud of this, but I rushed him and shoved him in to his car. While on the ground, that dick pulled his phone out to call the cops. We got the hell out of there. Can’t play Arrowood for a while.

by Brownie's Year on Feb 26, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit, that’s awful. The one negative about golf is that many of those who work and play the game are somewhat affluent (present company not included), and therefore many of them have an air of superiority that turns me off. That dude is no better than you, regardless of the fact that he works there, but I’m sure he’s making mad stack working there and “won’t stand for this sort of thing.”

It used to drive me crazy when I worked in the pro shop at our local country club when I was in high school; many of the more well-to-do members looked down their noses on anyone who didn’t have money and made non-members feel unwelcome at “their club.” Some of them even snubbed me, despite the fact that my parents were members there and my uncle was the head greens superintendent. Golf attracts some real assholes.

Resident Tim Couch Apologist.

by Dawg Nuts on Feb 27, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I was working at a private club (serving in the members grill) and this ahole member brought some clients there and berated me the entire meal service and he ordered some dumbass drink that no one knew what it was. He essentially called me stupid and left no tip. Because this was a college job, I eventually graduated and started a career. Fast forward, I needed a construction job completed and we were bidding it out. Same dude walks in and gives me this sales pitch on why to use him, yada yada. Couldn’t remember why I recognized him until driving to work the next day. Needless to say, I did not give him the contract.

by SBP on Feb 28, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Was that the last coin toss we won? We did not do so well last year…

by SBP on Feb 28, 2012 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Please erase, I just scaned through the comments and saw it was already said. My bad.

by SBP on Feb 28, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

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