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Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams

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Game: Cleveland Browns (3-3) vs. St. Louis Rams (0-7)
Where: Edward Jones Dome (St. Louis, MO)
When: 1:00 PM EST
Announcers: Don Criqui/Steve Beuerlein (CBS)

If you told the Browns prior to the season that they'd be facing the winless Dolphins, a bye week, and the winless Rams over a three game stretch, they'd probably think you were crazy. Fortunately, that's the way the schedule was made for what appears to be the most competitive Browns team since Butch Davis' lone playoff season back in 2001. Things were somewhat cloudy with the Browns' running back situation, but Jamal Lewis' foot is now good to go after a three-week break. On the other side of the field, the Rams are finally getting Steven Jackson back, as he looks to turn back the clock to last season and perform like one of the best running back in football. An upset loss to the Rams would kill us here, but the Rams are the type of team where nobody expects them to go winless for much longer. Let's hope they don't start clicking until next week...

OFFENSE

Category Browns Rams
Points Scored 27.3 (7th) 11.2 (32nd)
Passing 239.3 (8th) 192.0 (24th)
Rushing 115.2 (14th) 82.6 (28th)
Total Offense (yards) 354.5 (7th) 274.6 (30th)

DEFENSE

Category Browns Rams
Points Scored 30.5 (30th) 27.4 (27th)
Passing 263.5 (29th) 201.1 (10th)
Rushing 149.5 (30th) 129.6 (24th)
Total Defense (yards) 413.0 (32nd) 330.7 (18th)
- Quarterback
After heading into the season with a sizable contract extension, it seems unusual that Marc Bulger has played in the worst offense in the NFL. Bulger missed three games due to injury, and he played poorly in his return game last week against the Seattle Seahawks. Many of his struggles have come from a lingering injury, but most of it has been due to getting knocked down as soon as the ball is snapped to him. Derek Anderson's key will be to lead Cleveland's offense to some scores in the first half, something he failed to do against the Oakland Raiders and the New England Patriots on the road.
- Running Back
It's been confirmed that both teams will see the return of their starting running backs. Steven Jackson has only participated in three games this season, but in those contests, he wasn't the same player as year's past. He only averaged 3.4 yards a pop and was prone to fumbling the ball. With that said, having him back should be an upgrade over rookie Brian Leonard at the very least. On the Browns' side of the line, I question whether or not Lewis was actually limited, or if Romeo Crennel simply used the phrasing of the injury reports to his advantage. Jerome Harrison has earned his stripes: he is active today against the Rams (as is Jason Wright).
- Receiver
Just as they are getting Steven Jackson back, the Rams will also see the return of veteran Isaac Bruce and Dane Looker to compliment veteran standout Torry Holt. Holt and Bruce were an intimidating duo several years ago, and while they still remain a threat, no one talks about them being involved in "the best show on turf" anymore. Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow will be ready to play, but I'm a little concerned about them playing on turf. Injuries seem to haunt the Browns in domes, and I'd really hate to see Winslow's knee get any worse with a rough fall. Joe Jurevicius will start as well, as he will be fully recovered from his injury.
- Offensive Line
The Rams have a joke of an offensive line right now due to injuries or idiotic personal decisions, and it all started with Orlando Pace going down early in the year. The Rams can't pass block at all for the Rams' quarterbacks, but they've done an ok job keeping the running game a threat if the team doesn't fall behind early. The Browns' offensive line has been healthy every week of the regular season, and after having the bye week to relax, I'd expect them to be even stronger than before. Joe Thomas has been solid on the left side of the line, and if there were any minor errors in the first six games, hopefully they were patched up over the past two weeks.
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Defensive Line
The Rams took another hit on the other side of the line with defensive end Leonard Little being officially ruled out this week. Much like the Browns' defensive line, the Rams' defensive line hasn't been anything special. One person I'll have my eye on is first-round draft choice Adam Carriker, who has made a minimal impact this season with the Rams. The Browns do not have Ted Washington active for today's game, and Orpheus Roye should be healthier than he's been all season. That should finally allow Shaun Smith to receive a significant amount of reps inside, and I'd be interested to see if he possibly starts over Ethan Kelley today.

- Linebacker
This is similar to the defensive line in the sense that neither unit has really made a "big" difference for the defensive side of the ball. With how porous the Rams' offensive line has been though, I'm looking forward to one strategy that I don't think Todd Grantham will call: rush Kamerion Wimbley from the edge, and have Antwan Peek lined up at middle linebacker to blitz through the gap while Willie McGinest is anchoring the other side of the line. Wishful thinking perhaps. Will Witherspoon has been a pretty good veteran linebacker over on the Rams line, and overall the sack total has been "ok" for St. Louis.
- Secondary
I haven't been fond of the Browns' safeties this year, and I'll have to see the play of Sean Jones' improve before I actually believe it. Leigh Bodden and Eric Wright have started coming together better, but the Rams' pass defense is ranked 10th in the league this season. Oshiomogho Atogwe and Corey Chavous have more overall experience at the safety position than the Browns do, while Ron Bartell and Fakhir Brown have held their own at the cornerback positions. Maybe I'm only throwing a bone to the Rams here so their logo can at least be shown once.
- Special Teams
At first, I could've considered Dante Hall a threat on the Rams' return team. Guess what though? He is not going to play this week due to injury, after he had been the Rams' best threat of scoring this year. Meanwhile, Jeff Wilkins has only connected on 66% of his kicks this season. I want to see if Dave Zastudil punts the ball like he's capable of without any weather elements involved. If he shanks a few, then we'll know his injury is still playing a factor. The Rams' coverage team gave up a kick return to Nate Burleson last week - look out for some great returns from Joshua Cribbs today.
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 31, St. Louis Rams 21.
Quite a few people are projecting this to be the Rams' first win of the season, but don't expect me to fall into that crowd. I picked the Rams last week to upset the Seahawks, only to see Marc Bulger not have a single productive play in a 33-6 stomping. St. Louis will get Steven Jackson back this week, and even though the Browns' defensive line is rather weak, the Rams' offensive line supercedes that. The Browns' offense hasn't shown any signs of slowing down with Derek Anderson at quarterback, but they've gotten off to slow starts on the road. Getting off to a productive start in the first quarter will guarantee victory (sorry Randy McMichael) for the Browns. Don't forget also - the Browns are trying to build a two-game winning streak for the first time in ages as well.

This is the official gameday topic for the seventh game of the regular season, featuring the Cleveland Browns against the St. Louis Rams. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!

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Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Cleveland Browns

Inactives: QB Ken Dorsey (3rd QB), DB Kenny Wright, DB Nick Sorensen, G Isaac Sowells, T Nat Dorsey, WR Travis Wilson, NT Ted Washington, DT Louis Leonard


St. Louis Rams

Inactives: WR Marques Hagans (3rd QB), WR Travis Taylor, RB Antonio Pittman, DB Bhawoh Jue, LB Quinton Culberson, C Brett Romberg, WR Dante Hall, DE Leonard Little

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 12:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
have you seen any sopcast links yet?

by crackaddictwhit on Oct 28, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Ok, so apparently our defense really is atrocious?
 And I once again can't find a radio broadcast or any other way to follow the game.

by Estonianzulu on Oct 28, 2007 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Yikes. Rams marched down the field there.

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Wasn't exactly the start of the game I was hoping for. However, I'm not surprised that the Rams scored against us -- I did project them to pick up three touchdowns.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Ugh. Not a good first series.

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Shaky first offensive series.

-Winslow late in coming back on first pass.
-Moderate run by Lewis
-Cribbs led right into a defender.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
This doesn't look good.

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Very poor defensive showing so far. Can we only attempt to blitz from the outside and never the inside?

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Outstanding catch by Braylon Edwards if it stands.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Big time catch for Edwards, that's what we need to get back in this thing... please don't overturn :S

by Estonianzulu on Oct 28, 2007 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Ugh. Lewis hasn't looked good so far. I thought the Rams D was bad?

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Anderson has to see a guy like Tim Carter wide open there on that one play.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
The Rams defense hasn't been horrible, just a little below average I'd say. We need to give Lewis some touches on first down, not second down.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Our blitzes take forever to work, and you can always see them coming.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
dear lord just stop them!  We need this win.

by Estonianzulu on Oct 28, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Haha...the Rams pull the dreaded fullback handoff on fourth-and-short and do not convert. I love it.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Yeah! Those are the two powerful Jamal Lewis carries I love to see.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Very creative screen play there. With better blocking, that would've been a touchdown.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
My, oh my, have Derek Anderson and Braylon Edwards mastered that fade pattern.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Love it! We have ourselves a ballgame.

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Browns take the lead!

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
17-17 with 0:02 left in the first half.

by Fundamentals on Oct 28, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Why did we call a time out on the kickoff?

by Estonianzulu on Oct 28, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Here's a great idea, lets just walk backwards 10 yards at the start of the drive.

by Estonianzulu on Oct 28, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Three headed monster: Lewis-Harrison-Wright

by Estonianzulu on Oct 28, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Back, after that long break (was taping the game on computer and was a few minutes behind, thus couldn't comment).

The offense can't be stopped on third downs today, despite all of the penalties we're having. Let's hope for another conversion after the timeout here.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
My Gamecast is acting up - what's the situation?

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Ethan Kelley is getting a nice push as the game goes on up the middle. When he gets that push, it'd be nice to see a middle linebacker of ours be capable of blitzing through the gap.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Browns up 27-20, Rams just punted the ball to us.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

First sack?
Is that the first sack of DA today??  Why now??

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 28, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Meh, a three-and-out series for the offense, and the first one since our first drive. Not how I'd like to close out a game, but a mulligan for the offense since they've been playing so well all game minus the penalties.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Our defense is playing very soft right now.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If by "right now"
you mean this game, or this season, then yes, I agree.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 28, 2007 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: If by "right now"
All season, but in the beginning of that drive in particular. Where as Kelley bullrushed earlier, he literally stood there, waiting to tip balls instead. Bulger had all day for a few straight plays.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Why did Bulger pick this weekend to make his comeback?

by Estonianzulu on Oct 28, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Play of the game right here.

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! FOURTH DOWN STUFF!!!

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE
Big time plays by the defense.  

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 28, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Come on get the first down ...

by LGTs GFP on Oct 28, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
WOW, a big drop by Braylon, and then a crap punt by Zastudil. Thank goodness for that 10-yard penalty, and the fact that we made the Rams at least burn their timeouts...

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Hmmm...here go the penalties. It'll be a major win is we come away after all of those.

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
LEIGH BODDEN, INTERCEPTION! That's why I ranked him as our highest defensive player in my power rankings :D

27-20, Browns, FINAL! TWO-GAME WINNING STREAK!!!

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 28, 2007 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Bodden.
Bodden is definitely the MVP of this season's defense.  He has had some huge plays at the end of games.  E.g, here and Cincinnatti.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Oct 28, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Whewwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Feels good to be above .500, aye?

by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 28, 2007 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Funny Anderson's stats are almost identical to the game two weeks ago.

by vegasbrown on Oct 28, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Hell of a game, eh?
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Oct 28, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Wonder if this win will garner us any respect with the mainstream media...probably not. I'm sure ESPN will spend the next 6 days telling us how Seattle is going to beat us. Hell with that...I'm calling it right here, 32-17 Browns.
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.

by BringBackKosar on Oct 28, 2007 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Couple questions:
  1. Have there been any recent updates on LCB?
  2. I noticed Ryan Tucker had a false start on the series where we had 3 or 4 false starts but still ended up scoring. How did the overall play of Tucker compare to Schaffer?

by Roger Dorn on Oct 28, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
I'll have to review the game again later to see exactly when/how Tucker specifically played when he got in.

As far as Bentley updates, I believe it is November 6th that they will have to make an official decision on him. It sounds like the same "evading the answer" type comments from the staff and Savage that we saw with Gary Baxter in terms on what the team will do with him.

This was the latest report, done by ESPN's Len Pasquarelli, on October 26th: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3080629

by Chris Pokorny on Oct 29, 2007 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
We are in Peter King's Top 15 this week in MMQB

by Estonianzulu on Oct 29, 2007 11:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. St. Louis Rams
Few comments/observations:
  1. Defense looked real bad early, but found some pride after Romeo ripped them a new one.  That scene has been what a lot of people wanted to see out of Crennel a lot more often.  If it works like it did yesterday, I'm all for the yellin coach.  
  2. I really thought our defensive linemen got a sack, but that ddidn't really happen did it?  Ethan Kelly?
  3.  The defense was helped by Bulger being knocked out and playing hurt and Jackson getting hurt.
  4.  Secondary still worries me, but nice to see Bodden and E. Wright make some nice plays at the end of the game.
  5. I give Lewis (and the line, and the run play calls) a C-.  If we could have run the ball better in the second half, with the lead, it would have been a much more comfortable win.  Instead, Lewis looked very average, the line wasn't getting off the ball as good as it should against a bad defense and the play call, for some reason, seemed to go to teh right side of the line.
  6. Derek Anderson is either incredibly lucky or incredibly good at completing passes when the coverage is really tight.  His strong arm allows him to do this, but some of the completions to Jurevicious and Edwards had no business being thrown.
  7. Edwards has emerged as a top 5 WR in the league.
  8. MVP of the season has to be Chud.
  9. 4-3; 2-1 in the division; 3-1 at home; now we have a road win and back to back wins.  You mean Cleveland still has a team?  Yeah. We have uniforms and everything.  Go Browns.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 29, 2007 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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