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Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders

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Game: Cleveland Browns (1-1) vs. Oakland Raiders (0-2)
Where: McAfee Coliseum (Oakland, CA)
When: 4:05 PM EST
Announcers: Bill Macatee/Steve Beuerlein

In last week's preview, I made one firm statement: "Today's game is all about being competitive". To everyone's surprise, not only were the Browns competitive, we won the game. We scored 51 points. We responded every time the Bengals scored. Each of those statements deserved their own sentences to emphasize just how rare they occur with the Browns. Hopefully it's a sign of things to come, as Romeo Crennel has a shot at building his first two-game winning streak since becoming the Browns' head coach. The Browns defeated the Raiders last year, a team that has been very competitive this year despite starting at 0-2. This is the ideal situation for our first road game, because the conditions aren't too difficult on paper. The faith is restore in our offense, but now it's time to improve upon the defensive numbers below, including the one the says we're giving up 39.5 points per game thus far. Let's get to the breakdown of this week's game...

OFFENSE

Category Browns Raiders
Points Scored 29.0 (6th) 20.5 (12th)
Passing 251.5 (8th) 168.0 (26th)
Rushing 136.0 (9th) 146.0 (7th)
Total Offense (yards) 387.5 (7th) 314.0 (19th)

DEFENSE

Category Browns Raiders
Points Scored 39.5 (31st) 29.5 (28th)
Passing 276.5 (30th) 272.0 (29th)
Rushing 171.5 (29th) 206.0 (26th)
Total Defense (yards) 448.0 (32nd) 416.5 (28th)
- Quarterback
Derek Anderson's five-touchdown performance last week took everyone by surprise, but you'd have to be crazy to think he'd duplicate that performance this week. Thankfully, 79% of you voted that Anderson will only throw 1-2 touchdowns this week, which should be the norm if the Browns operate a smart gameplan. Meanwhile, the Oakland Raiders could be in the middle of a makeshift situation. Despite having JaMarcus Russell signed, he's not the man the Raiders would consider putting in. Although Josh McCown has done an ok job the past two weeks, Daunte Culpepper could see action at some point in the game. With that indecision at quarterback, the Browns have the edge.
- Running Back
I'm quite surprised that LaMont Jordan has run for an average of 114 yards per game, and 5.7 yards-per-carry over the first two weeks of the season. More surprising is the fact that he caught nine passes for 89 yards in Week 1 against the Detroit Lions, and the ran for 159 yards against the Denver Broncos last week. Jordan's versatility will be the bread and butter of Oakland's offense, so stopping him will be critical for the Browns' defense. The Raiders haven't been much better than the Browns at stopping the run due to a couple of holes up front. Jamal Lewis and Jordan should go at it all day on the ground back-and-forth.
- Receiver
Besides the Minnesota Vikings, there isn't another team in the NFL that are as thin at receiver than the Raiders are. Beyond Ronald Curry, who has 12 catches for 145 yards receiving, the Raiders' next best receiver is Jerry Porter, who only has three catches. Besides a couple of tight ends or fullbacks with a catch or two, nothing else is worth noting. The Browns had breakout games from Braylon Edwards, Joe Jurevicius, and Kellen Winslow last week. It doesn't take a genius in math to realize that three playmakers are better than one.
- Offensive Line
Personally, I'd almost negate the amount of sacks the Browns gave up in Week 1 due to Charlie Frye. The same negation shouldn't be applied to the Raiders though, as Josh McCown has been taken down seven times over the past two games. Both teams were outstanding at blocking the run last week, but the edge in pass protection should go to the Browns by far. The Raiders need to pay particular attention to Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach, the left side of the Browns' offensive line. They were mauling the Bengals last week and will look to do the same thing this week.
- Defensive Line
Neither team really has a strong edge here. Robaire Smith had an above average game last week, but I think it's time that we started seeing more of Shaun Smith in the game, both at defensive tackle and defensive end. Getting pressure on the Raiders is possible if the rotation schemes are called early and often. The Raiders could be without their sack master, Derrick Burgess, who has only recorded one tackle this season. Burgess had 27 sacks over the past two seasons, but injuries have held him back and prevented Oakland from getting their usual amount of pressure. Even if he does play, he won't be 100%.
- Linebacker
Kamerion Wimbley has been double teamed for two weeks and has barely missed a couple of sacks. Call me optimistic, but I'm calling it this week: one and a half to two sacks for Wimbley against McCown or Culpepper. I'd actually think that seeing Culpepper in the game would benefit our pass rushes more, because he has not been able to feel pressure well since his days with the Vikings. Thomas Howard had a fantastic game for the Raiders defense last week, including a 44-yard interception return for a touchdown. Overall though, the Raiders' linebackers don't make a whole lot of noise, remaining their vulnerability defensively.
- Secondary
Two things to consider here by the Raiders' secondary: be fooled, but don't be fooled. The Raiders have not lived up to their expectations through the first two games, but the amount of young talent they have back there is sick. Nnamdi Asomugha and Fabian Washington have a nose for the football, and safety Michael Huff was the seventh overall pick last season. The Browns' secondary has given up ten touchdown passes in two weeks, and are probably going to be without safety Brodney Pool. I wish Gary Baxter was ready to play, but we'll probably be forced to see Mike Adams in there, a person that I didn't think was good enough to make our roster.
- Special Teams
The Raiders were victimized big time by Joshua Cribbs last year, but it's key to remember that the Raiders have two very powerful kickers: Sebastian Janikowski (kicker) and Shane Lechler (punter). On kickoffs, Janikowski can drive the ball into the end zone often, while Lechler can kick it deep and away from Cribbs. The Browns will probably be without Dave Zastudil this week due to injury, meaning Scott Player would get the start. Player has experience to make me comfortable, but it's still a short week that he had to build chemistry with a new team.
FINAL PREDICTION: Cleveland Browns 24, Oakland Raiders 14.
The drastic offensive turnaround from the Browns last week against the  Bengals under Derek Anderson restored hope among fans. The thing that no one around the league is looking at is how dominating the offensive line was: Cincinnati had no sacks, rarely got pressure, and were mauled on the ground. Anderson won't have the same success throwing the ball this week, but Jamal Lewis should have a great day against the Raiders defense. Until Oakland gains offensive stability, they won't be a winning football team.

This is the official gameday topic for the third game of the regular season, featuring the Cleveland Browns against the Oakland Raiders. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!

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Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Raiders | Week 3 Inactives
The Oakland Raiders have declared DL Derrick Burgess, CB Duane Starks, LB Isaiah Ekejiuba, CB John Bowie, OT Mario Henderson, FB Oren O'Neal, LB Robert Thomas inactive for Week 3.

Browns | Week 3 Inactives
The Cleveland Browns have declared P Dave Zastudil, CB Gary Baxter, OL Isaac Sowells, RB Jerome Harrison, OT Kelly Butler, QB Ken Dorsey, WR Travis Wilson, LB Willie McGinest inactive for Week 3.

The only surprise is that Brodney Pool is not on the list; apparently he will play.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 3:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Big advantage that Burgess can't go.

I'm off to a bar, since the game isn't on TV in Cincinnati.  Go BROWNS, and Go INDIANS... DIVISION CHAMPS.

by DaytonDogg on Sep 23, 2007 3:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
time to see which Browns team is gonna show up..

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 4:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Not a great opening drop with all of the penalties and miscommunications. Nice catch by Edwards though on the first drive, and Wimbley got his first sack right away. Remember, I projected he'd have two sacks today.

Oakland's offense looks like crap to kick off the game; better to take advantage early. All we need to do is cut down on the penalties.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 4:30 PM EDT   0 recs

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A shame that Cribbs has had to see two touchbacks so far.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 4:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Raiders are obviously afraid of him

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 4:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Snap to Cribbs? That was wierd.

by Zorgon on Sep 23, 2007 4:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
WTF, that was straight to him!

by Zorgon on Sep 23, 2007 4:45 PM EDT   0 recs

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Apparently, the Raiders were wise to the fact that Anderson threw it over the middle so often last week.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 4:47 PM EDT   0 recs

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Sheesh...Pool has not looked good all of this season.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 4:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Any way to listen to the game for free?

by ploni on Sep 23, 2007 4:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Download SopCast, and then go here to watch the game for free: sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/28454

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 4:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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What't this, Chris? It's not a legitimate URl and it doesn't work.

by ploni on Sep 23, 2007 4:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
In order for the link to do anything, you need to download SopCast first: Download SopCast. Then come back and click the link.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Okay, I've downloaded SopCast but clicking on the link fails to bring up a working page.

by ploni on Sep 23, 2007 5:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Try typing the following in the SopCast address thing:

Channel - 28454

If that doesn't work, see how this works: http://www.mooheadradio.com/blog/

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Is this the text-input box under "Channel List" and next to the words "Keyword:[ "?

by ploni on Sep 23, 2007 5:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
My SopCast just says "Address" near the top of the program for the input box.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Is this on the SopCast Web site or on some SopCast.exe software?

I didn't get an executable file when I installed SopCast.zip.

by ploni on Sep 23, 2007 5:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
There should be an executable...maybe try downloading/unzipping/installing it again.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Getting a little tired of our friend Pool. I was actually kind of relieved when I heard he was hurt. Come back, Gary! We need you!

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 4:51 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Great shot by Sean Jones to save a touchdown. Now, all we need is one solid offensive drive to take the lead.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 4:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Our redzone defense has been solid.  And thats a great return, hopefully Anderson and Lewis put this one in.

by Estonianzulu on Sep 23, 2007 4:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Offense seems a little vanilla today.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
I cant see the game, how is our defense looking?  stat wise we seem to be gloriously doing nothing

by Estonianzulu on Sep 23, 2007 5:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Defensively, we're blitzing where they aren't running their plays. On a play fake, we now just got burned by Ronald Curry - second time a receiver has been uncovered by about 10-15 yards.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Doesn't this first half seem all too reminiscent of last year's first half versus the Raiders? With the turnover, all the penalties, and the Raiders hitting a few big plays...

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Perhaps Chud could call something besides "lewis to the right" and "Lewis to the Left"

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:12 PM EDT   0 recs

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So, two picks- Quinn in at the half?

by Estonianzulu on Sep 23, 2007 5:15 PM EDT   0 recs

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Everyone's gonna be calling for Quinn now.

This reminds me of the Bledsoe situation in Dallas last year. Good game vs. Houston, then comes back, has a bad game, and he's killed.

Lets stick with Anderson, comeon!

by Zorgon on Sep 23, 2007 5:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Another great redzone stop, now if we could frickin score.  This team is so up and down, this is soooo not healthy for me.

by Estonianzulu on Sep 23, 2007 5:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
BOW DOWN!!! JOSHUA CRIBBS IS A GOD!!!!!

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:18 PM EDT   0 recs

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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:18 PM EDT   0 recs

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CRIBBS! CRIIIIBBBBSS! God I love that guy.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:19 PM EDT   0 recs

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I think that makes Josh Cribbs Derek Anderson's best friend for the time being.

by APV on Sep 23, 2007 5:20 PM EDT   0 recs

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Alright Alright now we're talkin.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:25 PM EDT   0 recs

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Wow, Anderson missed a WIDE open Heiden in the end zone... At least we're only down by six now.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:30 PM EDT   0 recs

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I don't agree with this at all.  If you're going to win games, you have to capitalize on turnovers and hit wide open receivers.  This is why Anderson isn't any good, despite any success he might have.

by NickFantana on Sep 23, 2007 5:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
What don't you agree with? *confused*

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Alright 3 points isn't bad, we're back in it.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:31 PM EDT   0 recs

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Culpepper in the game. Let's hope that we drop a bunch back on passing plays, because he's bound to throw picks.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 5:47 PM EDT   0 recs

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Good stop there. Defense (other than the secondary) and special teams are saving our asses.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:51 PM EDT   0 recs

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Oh that was a great series. Run Run Pass Punt.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:56 PM EDT   0 recs

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WOOOO turnover baby! Defense comes through again.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 5:59 PM EDT   0 recs

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Mike Williams should be cut. He has literally been the difference in this game so far. I'll take it as long as they keep putting him in there, lol.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 6:02 PM EDT   0 recs

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TOOOUUCCCHDOOWN! Braylon strikes again!

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 6:02 PM EDT   0 recs

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Now THATS what I expected out of this offense

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 6:03 PM EDT   0 recs

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If Pool can't cover he should at least learn to tackle correctly.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 6:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Well, the Raiders pretty much had their way on the ground with us...15 plays, 80 yards. 15 of those plays were runs.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 6:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Wimbley did a nice job containing Culpepper for his second sack, as I projected he'd get.

Ugh...just as I'm about to celebrate, the Raiders get a screen play on 3rd and 20...sheesh...

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 6:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Well, now we're stuck having to score on the final two possessions we'll probably get here...

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 6:38 PM EDT   0 recs

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Moving the chains, moving the chains. Just can't afford any turnovers.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 6:44 PM EDT   0 recs

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The Anderson-Edwards connection again shows its potential

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 6:47 PM EDT   0 recs

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TOOOOOOOOUUUCHDOOWWWNNNNN!! Anderson running like a scared chicken for the 6!

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 6:48 PM EDT   0 recs

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You see that drive the Browns just had? That's how we should've run things all game long. Instead, Anderson acted as if he was still facing the Bengals defense by throwing it ten yards down the middle every play.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 6:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
I know what you're saying, but throughout the week I've commented on the fact that the Bengals were horrible up the middle, and that our offense wouldn't get the same stuff against the Raiders defense.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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We have three timeouts, time for the defense to suck it up and do something against a turnover friendly Raiders team.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 6:49 PM EDT   0 recs

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Ok, why did we not call a timeout right before the two-minute warning there? We've blown at least ten seconds of clock now IF we stop them.

Come on DEFENSE!

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 6:57 PM EDT   0 recs

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Whew...my heart skipped a beat there. I was preying that the Raiders wouldn't go for it with how we've been killed on the ground.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 7:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Ok, this is totally winnable, just have to use the same kind of play calling we used on the last drive. we CAN win this!

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Winslow has put us in decent position with amazing catches. We need one sideline pass for Dawson.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 7:07 PM EDT   0 recs

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*collapses* Wow, was that painful.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 7:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
You...have..got..to..be..FUCKING..KIDDING..me...

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 7:13 PM EDT   0 recs

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Whats great is that every raider fan I know spent a week bitching about how the Broncos pulled that "last second TO during a field goal" bullshit last week, then their team does the same thing.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

And I agreed with them
That was crap.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 23, 2007 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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Biggest BS move ever -- I thought it was crap when the Broncos pulled it on the Raiders last week, and I think it's crap this week.  The NFL needs to address calling TO's right on the snap.  Crap.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 23, 2007 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Did anyone really think that the Browns were going to win this game?  No team in the history of sports screws with fans minds more...

by Bernie19Kosar on Sep 23, 2007 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Yup
Every year.  Every year.  I think some of my best sports years were when the Browns were "suspended."  Oh well, at least I never had to live in Cleveland (my pops is from there and cursed me with being a fan. . . . )

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 23, 2007 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
They have other rules that change for "within the last 2 minutes". You should be required to call TO before the center grips the ball within the final two minutes.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 7:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Good idea
I think once the o-line is set and the center has the ball cocked . . . It would still let QB's try to pull the other side off-sides, but they would have to take the penalty if they don't snap it.  

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 23, 2007 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

By the way, No Brady Quinn Talk
We got to keep Anderson for the rest of the season.  We can't let what happened to Couch happen to Quinn.  Tom Brady was able to come out his second season and kick ass after sitting for most of his first season, and I think Quinn can do the same.

by TheDriveStillHurts on Sep 23, 2007 7:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Anderson missed some throws again, but you have to hand it to him for at least giving our playmakers a chance to make a play on the ball late in the game. We were in position to win with a 40-yard field goal. Sure, Dawson having to start on the dirt may have affected how fast he was able to get the kick off, but the fact is that we did a horrible job blocking the middle.

In regards to the timeout called, that's been happening for years now; can't blame them for it.

by ChrisPokorny on Sep 23, 2007 7:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders
Just because its been happening for years doesn't mean it should continue.

by BringBackKosar on Sep 23, 2007 7: