Cleveland Browns vs. Oakland Raiders

Where: McAfee Coliseum (Oakland, CA)
When: 4:05 PM EST
Announcers: Bill Macatee/Steve Beuerlein
In last week's preview, I made one firm statement: "Today's game is all about being competitive". To everyone's surprise, not only were the Browns competitive, we won the game. We scored 51 points. We responded every time the Bengals scored. Each of those statements deserved their own sentences to emphasize just how rare they occur with the Browns. Hopefully it's a sign of things to come, as Romeo Crennel has a shot at building his first two-game winning streak since becoming the Browns' head coach. The Browns defeated the Raiders last year, a team that has been very competitive this year despite starting at 0-2. This is the ideal situation for our first road game, because the conditions aren't too difficult on paper. The faith is restore in our offense, but now it's time to improve upon the defensive numbers below, including the one the says we're giving up 39.5 points per game thus far. Let's get to the breakdown of this week's game...
OFFENSE
| Category | Browns | Raiders |
| Points Scored | 29.0 (6th) | 20.5 (12th) |
| Passing | 251.5 (8th) | 168.0 (26th) |
| Rushing | 136.0 (9th) | 146.0 (7th) |
| Total Offense (yards) | 387.5 (7th) | 314.0 (19th) |
DEFENSE
| Category | Browns | Raiders |
| Points Scored | 39.5 (31st) | 29.5 (28th) |
| Passing | 276.5 (30th) | 272.0 (29th) |
| Rushing | 171.5 (29th) | 206.0 (26th) |
| Total Defense (yards) | 448.0 (32nd) | 416.5 (28th) |
| Quarterback Derek Anderson's five-touchdown performance last week took everyone by surprise, but you'd have to be crazy to think he'd duplicate that performance this week. Thankfully, 79% of you voted that Anderson will only throw 1-2 touchdowns this week, which should be the norm if the Browns operate a smart gameplan. Meanwhile, the Oakland Raiders could be in the middle of a makeshift situation. Despite having JaMarcus Russell signed, he's not the man the Raiders would consider putting in. Although Josh McCown has done an ok job the past two weeks, Daunte Culpepper could see action at some point in the game. With that indecision at quarterback, the Browns have the edge. |
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Running Back I'm quite surprised that LaMont Jordan has run for an average of 114 yards per game, and 5.7 yards-per-carry over the first two weeks of the season. More surprising is the fact that he caught nine passes for 89 yards in Week 1 against the Detroit Lions, and the ran for 159 yards against the Denver Broncos last week. Jordan's versatility will be the bread and butter of Oakland's offense, so stopping him will be critical for the Browns' defense. The Raiders haven't been much better than the Browns at stopping the run due to a couple of holes up front. Jamal Lewis and Jordan should go at it all day on the ground back-and-forth. |
| Receiver Besides the Minnesota Vikings, there isn't another team in the NFL that are as thin at receiver than the Raiders are. Beyond Ronald Curry, who has 12 catches for 145 yards receiving, the Raiders' next best receiver is Jerry Porter, who only has three catches. Besides a couple of tight ends or fullbacks with a catch or two, nothing else is worth noting. The Browns had breakout games from Braylon Edwards, Joe Jurevicius, and Kellen Winslow last week. It doesn't take a genius in math to realize that three playmakers are better than one. |
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| Offensive Line Personally, I'd almost negate the amount of sacks the Browns gave up in Week 1 due to Charlie Frye. The same negation shouldn't be applied to the Raiders though, as Josh McCown has been taken down seven times over the past two games. Both teams were outstanding at blocking the run last week, but the edge in pass protection should go to the Browns by far. The Raiders need to pay particular attention to Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach, the left side of the Browns' offensive line. They were mauling the Bengals last week and will look to do the same thing this week. |
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Defensive Line Neither team really has a strong edge here. Robaire Smith had an above average game last week, but I think it's time that we started seeing more of Shaun Smith in the game, both at defensive tackle and defensive end. Getting pressure on the Raiders is possible if the rotation schemes are called early and often. The Raiders could be without their sack master, Derrick Burgess, who has only recorded one tackle this season. Burgess had 27 sacks over the past two seasons, but injuries have held him back and prevented Oakland from getting their usual amount of pressure. Even if he does play, he won't be 100%. |
| Linebacker Kamerion Wimbley has been double teamed for two weeks and has barely missed a couple of sacks. Call me optimistic, but I'm calling it this week: one and a half to two sacks for Wimbley against McCown or Culpepper. I'd actually think that seeing Culpepper in the game would benefit our pass rushes more, because he has not been able to feel pressure well since his days with the Vikings. Thomas Howard had a fantastic game for the Raiders defense last week, including a 44-yard interception return for a touchdown. Overall though, the Raiders' linebackers don't make a whole lot of noise, remaining their vulnerability defensively. |
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| Secondary Two things to consider here by the Raiders' secondary: be fooled, but don't be fooled. The Raiders have not lived up to their expectations through the first two games, but the amount of young talent they have back there is sick. Nnamdi Asomugha and Fabian Washington have a nose for the football, and safety Michael Huff was the seventh overall pick last season. The Browns' secondary has given up ten touchdown passes in two weeks, and are probably going to be without safety Brodney Pool. I wish Gary Baxter was ready to play, but we'll probably be forced to see Mike Adams in there, a person that I didn't think was good enough to make our roster. |
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Special Teams The Raiders were victimized big time by Joshua Cribbs last year, but it's key to remember that the Raiders have two very powerful kickers: Sebastian Janikowski (kicker) and Shane Lechler (punter). On kickoffs, Janikowski can drive the ball into the end zone often, while Lechler can kick it deep and away from Cribbs. The Browns will probably be without Dave Zastudil this week due to injury, meaning Scott Player would get the start. Player has experience to make me comfortable, but it's still a short week that he had to build chemistry with a new team. |
The drastic offensive turnaround from the Browns last week against the Bengals under Derek Anderson restored hope among fans. The thing that no one around the league is looking at is how dominating the offensive line was: Cincinnati had no sacks, rarely got pressure, and were mauled on the ground. Anderson won't have the same success throwing the ball this week, but Jamal Lewis should have a great day against the Raiders defense. Until Oakland gains offensive stability, they won't be a winning football team.
This is the official gameday topic for the third game of the regular season, featuring the Cleveland Browns against the Oakland Raiders. All comments regarding the game should be posted in this topic. Enjoy the game, and GO BROWNS!!!
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The Oakland Raiders have declared DL Derrick Burgess, CB Duane Starks, LB Isaiah Ekejiuba, CB John Bowie, OT Mario Henderson, FB Oren O'Neal, LB Robert Thomas inactive for Week 3.
Browns | Week 3 Inactives
The Cleveland Browns have declared P Dave Zastudil, CB Gary Baxter, OL Isaac Sowells, RB Jerome Harrison, OT Kelly Butler, QB Ken Dorsey, WR Travis Wilson, LB Willie McGinest inactive for Week 3.
The only surprise is that Brodney Pool is not on the list; apparently he will play.
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Sep 23, 2007 3:30 PM EDT
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I'm off to a bar, since the game isn't on TV in Cincinnati. Go BROWNS, and Go INDIANS... DIVISION CHAMPS.
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Oakland's offense looks like crap to kick off the game; better to take advantage early. All we need to do is cut down on the penalties.
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Channel - 28454
If that doesn't work, see how this works: http://www.mooheadradio.com/blog/
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I didn't get an executable file when I installed SopCast.zip.
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This reminds me of the Bledsoe situation in Dallas last year. Good game vs. Houston, then comes back, has a bad game, and he's killed.
Lets stick with Anderson, comeon!
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Ugh...just as I'm about to celebrate, the Raiders get a screen play on 3rd and 20...sheesh...
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Come on DEFENSE!
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And I agreed with them
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Sep 23, 2007 7:19 PM EDT
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Yup
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Good idea
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By the way, No Brady Quinn Talk
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In regards to the timeout called, that's been happening for years now; can't blame them for it.
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- Offensive game plan was weak to start the game
- Secondary has turned into weakness, when we thought it was a strength of the defense. See number 6.
- Too many yards allowed on third a long.
- Lamont Jordan > Jamal Lewis
- Our linebackers are quick, but physically small.
- Eric Wright is getting picked apart by offensive coordinators and quarterbacks every week, and this isn't going to stop. With no safety help we are going to continue to have problems. I'd give the next couple starts to Daven Holly and let Wright play in nickel situations... where is Kenny Wright?
- Another way to help the secondary is with some more constant pressure on their QB. Nice to see Wimbley get a couple sacks, but the pass rush was still subpar. After 2+ seasons, this is one of the least creative 3-4's I've ever seen. Wimbley is good enough to get his 10-15 sacks this year just by dipping his shoulder and beating left tackles every now and then, but can't there be some more confusion with stunts, blitzes from other linebackers, etc.
9.I really hope Winslow is not hurt.
10. This sucks, we should be 2-1.
9.
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Sep 23, 2007 9:08 PM EDT
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The secondary is lacking a captain (Brian Russell). I don't know how football ready Gary Baxter would be, but bringing him back could add that leadership we're looking for. And, although I didn't envision Willie McGinest being a starter, perhaps getting a veteran in the linebacking group can help on some downs. Andra Davis should be that veteran, but he's not even close to being a force after all of these years.
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Sep 23, 2007 9:42 PM EDT
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yuk- I still have a terrible taste in my mouth after yesterday. I haven't watched the replay of the block too many times (mostly because I'd rather not break things in my apartment), but from what I remember the kick came out pretty low... am I totally off on that?
I'm also anxious to hear an update on Winslow.
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Sep 24, 2007 3:54 PM EDT
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Sep 23, 2007 9:40 PM EDT
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Some people have mentioned a rule that goes into effect once the play clock hits a certain mark, but because of the reasons listed above, the NFL will never change the rule.
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Sep 23, 2007 9:45 PM EDT
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by ChrisPokorny on
Sep 25, 2007 9:23 AM EDT
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ESPN guys had a good point today- this IS a rule change. Until a couple years ago, this would have never happened. Coaches weren't allowed to call timeouts from the sidelines, it had to be called from the field.
Berman, Parcells and Jackson seemed to agree that they should change it back.
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Sep 24, 2007 9:42 PM EDT
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At least when players call it, the offense can usually see and hear it and stop the play.
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